Washington confirms Chinese hack attack on White House computer,,Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews#ixzz285dRrC5W

[Justin]

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews

"'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,' a
White House official told FoxNews.com. 'These types of attacks are not
infrequent and we have mitigation measures in place.'"

The only way to "mitigate" Windows security is to completely block the
outside Internet.



"By opening the email, which likely contained a link to a malicious site
or some form of attachment, the agency member allowed the Chinese hacker
to access a system, explained Anup Ghosh, founder and CEO of security
company Invincea."

Clicked - then redirected and something was installed on the machine.
YAY Windows!
Only on Windows can one false click infect a computer.
It wouldn't have happened on OSX... or and unix-like OS either.

No wonder Apple is stealing the enterprise market from Apple. What
Apple doesn't grab Linux should easily scavenge.

[Big Steel]

<http://news.yahoo.com/researcher-says-flaw-android-creates-phone-risk-190905663.html>

[Hadron]

Meanwhile Windows remains at about 92% of the market space. Apple about
7 and Linux 1.

Windows has much improved from what I read in respectable magazines and
web sites. And I think Linux has missed its chance. Too many distros
fragmenting development effort and too many wobbly windows as opposed to
top quality desktop apps and games.

It suits me fine but I dont play games. And I now have a win 7 partition
only for testing IE browsers and syncing/backing up my iPhone.

--
A certain COLA "advocate" faking his user-agent in order to pretend to be a Linux
user: User-Agent: Outlook 5.5 (WinNT 5.0), User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0
(Linux), Message-ID: <wPGdnd3NnOM...@comcast.com>

[Snit]

On 10/1/12 3:55 PM, in article fdwqz9d...@news.eternal-september.org,
"Hadron" <hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> writes:
>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-attac

If Linux is ever to really gain any traction with users, the open source
ecosystem *must* mature to the point where distros can be made with a good
and unified UI (as the KDE team clearly understands) where the programs for
that UI are excellent.

There is a long way to go to reach that point, though things do keep
improving. I hope the KDE team is someday successful in their endeavors.


--
<http://goo.gl/uFKQS>
15 points Foster and his farm of loonies will *always* run from... and
absolute proof they know their accusations are false.

[7]

Justin wrote:

> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-

attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>
> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,

Do you mean a windopws network that deserved to be hacked because
it is built on top of swiss cheese?

There are more viri infected computers than all the
engineers that micoshaft and partners have available
to repair.


Should they not be using more secure open source technologies
as the Military does?


==============================================



Google now worth more than Micoshaft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------

At 11:03 Google was worth more than Microshaft today.


248.91B v 248.11B in favor of google.


Wasn't it Balmer who said that he was going to "fucking kill google"?

Well it looks like google has fucking killed Microshaft!!

Balmer has now got his head handed back handed on a plate.

Goodbye Balmer, your days are numbered.

Proprietary software is a truly a dead business model.

Google, Appil, Android all riding high on open source.

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!


===============================================

Google now worth 249 billion compared to 247 billion for Microshaft
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Open source and Linux is now king.
Everyone scramble to set up competing open source companies
to slice up microshaft and take ALL its business away.
They are a spent force and in the IT world decline
is rapid.

[Snit]

On 10/1/12 3:54 PM, in article
3v2dnZqAXuSngvfN...@earthlink.com, "Big Steel"
<TheBig...@TheBigrrrr1111.com> wrote:

> <http://news.yahoo.com/researcher-says-flaw-android-creates-phone-risk-1909056
> 63.html>
>

Just earlier today someone - 7 I believe - was saying Windows was the only
OS where going to a "bad" site could lead to disaster. Clearly this is not
the case.

[Big Steel]

On 10/1/2012 6:46 PM, Justin wrote:


> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,' a

It's an attack that was against the network a phishing attack stupid
that compromised Web servers that redirected users to another site when
the White House site was visited. The network was compromised a Web
server was compromised.

Penguin Powers White House: Linux Server for WhiteHouse

http://sourcedigit.com/503-penguin-powers-white-house-linux-server-for-whitehouse/

[Snit]

On 10/1/12 4:06 PM, in article 0mpas.150740$F52....@fx22.am4, "7"

<email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:

> Justin wrote:
>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-
> attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>>
>> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,
>
> Do you mean a windopws network that deserved to be hacked because
> it is built on top of swiss cheese?

Apparently the same type of cheese is used to make Android.

<http://goo.gl/sjGVR>

Poor 7... he is so often so clearly clueless and biased.

But do not worry, 7, the herd has your back - none of them will *ever* call
you out on your BS.

[7]

Snit wrote:

> On 10/1/12 4:06 PM, in article 0mpas.150740$F52....@fx22.am4, "7"
> <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>
>> Justin wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-
>> attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>>>
>>> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,
>>
>> Do you mean a windopws network that deserved to be hacked because
>> it is built on top of swiss cheese?
>
> Apparently the same type of cheese is used to make Android.

Of course you lied again Snit.
Windopws is swiss cheese just like appile because they
are both closed source despite appil and micorshaft
stealing code from open source projects and never
giving anything back except threats to sue their own
developers.

Open source on the other hand is protected by the GPL
and fixed in minutes
of bugs having been reported because everyone
has the source code.

[Big Steel]

On 10/1/2012 7:07 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 10/1/12 3:54 PM, in article
> 3v2dnZqAXuSngvfN...@earthlink.com, "Big Steel"
> <TheBig...@TheBigrrrr1111.com> wrote:
>
>> <http://news.yahoo.com/researcher-says-flaw-android-creates-phone-risk-1909056
>> 63.html>
>>
>
> Just earlier today someone - 7 I believe - was saying Windows was the only
> OS where going to a "bad" site could lead to disaster. Clearly this is not
> the case.
>
>

That was a Linux Web server that was compromised at the White House that
caused users visiting the White House site to be redirected to a hacker
site.

[Snit]

On 10/1/12 4:14 PM, in article
x82dnZV6r9t_vvfN...@earthlink.com, "Big Steel"

The herd is completely delusional that Linux is a magic bullet to online
safety.

[Snit]

On 10/1/12 4:13 PM, in article pspas.252419$pO4....@fx17.am4, "7"

<email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/12 4:06 PM, in article 0mpas.150740$F52....@fx22.am4, "7"
>> <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-
>>> attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>>>>
>>>> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,
>>>
>>> Do you mean a windopws network that deserved to be hacked because
>>> it is built on top of swiss cheese?
>>
>> Apparently the same type of cheese is used to make Android.
>
> Of course you lied again Snit.

Nope. But keep in mind you are illiterate and delusional... so from that
perspective I can see where you would come to such a faulty conclusion.

See below for proof of your illiteracy.

> Windopws is swiss cheese just like appile because they
> are both closed source despite appil and micorshaft
> stealing code from open source projects and never
> giving anything back except threats to sue their own
> developers.
>
> Open source on the other hand is protected by the GPL
> and fixed in minutes
> of bugs having been reported because everyone
> has the source code.
>
>

[DFS]

On 10/1/2012 6:46 PM, Justin wrote:

> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>
>
> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,' a
> White House official told FoxNews.com. 'These types of attacks are not
> infrequent and we have mitigation measures in place.'"
>
> The only way to "mitigate" Windows security is to completely block the
> outside Internet.
>
>
>
> "By opening the email, which likely contained a link to a malicious site
> or some form of attachment, the agency member allowed the Chinese hacker
> to access a system, explained Anup Ghosh, founder and CEO of security
> company Invincea."
>
> Clicked - then redirected and something was installed on the machine.
> YAY Windows!
> Only on Windows can one false click infect a computer.
> It wouldn't have happened on OSX... or and unix-like OS either.

"Newly discovered Android security flaw can wipe your phone with the
click of a link"

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/newly-discovered-android-security-flaw-wipe-phone-click-010830893.html


Linux shitware: insecure by design - allows your device to be wiped with
one click on a malicious website.

[Justin]

On 10/1/12 6:55 PM, Hadron wrote:
> Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> writes:
>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>>
>> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,' a White
>> House official told FoxNews.com. 'These types of attacks are not infrequent and
>> we have mitigation measures in place.'"
>>
>> The only way to "mitigate" Windows security is to completely block the outside
>> Internet.
>>
>> "By opening the email, which likely contained a link to a malicious site or some
>> form of attachment, the agency member allowed the Chinese hacker to access a
>> system, explained Anup Ghosh, founder and CEO of security company Invincea."
>>
>> Clicked - then redirected and something was installed on the machine. YAY
>> Windows!
>> Only on Windows can one false click infect a computer.
>> It wouldn't have happened on OSX... or and unix-like OS either.
>>
>> No wonder Apple is stealing the enterprise market from Apple. What Apple
>> doesn't grab Linux should easily scavenge.
>>
>
> Meanwhile Windows remains at about 92% of the market space. Apple about
> 7 and Linux 1.

At one time GM had something like 75% of the world automotive market.
Things change.

>
> Windows has much improved from what I read in respectable magazines and
> web sites. And I think Linux has missed its chance. Too many distros
> fragmenting development effort and too many wobbly windows as opposed to
> top quality desktop apps and games.

I completely disagree about Windows improving. I have not seen any
reduction in various malware/virus infections since Windows 2000.
I do agree with you about Linux. Its too Balkanized.
What works on one distro may not work on another. That is a fundamental
problem that must be solved if Linux will ever make a dent in the
desktop market.
The frustration of Microsoft's consistent lack of improvement,
nonchalant attitude towards security and complete disregard for industry
standards is what made me decide to get the hell out of the IT world.

>
> It suits me fine but I dont play games. And I now have a win 7 partition
> only for testing IE browsers and syncing/backing up my iPhone.
>

PC gaming is dead.
Let it rest in peace.
There are these new things called consoles that seem to be taking over.

What games are out there that are exclusively PC?

[Justin]

On 10/1/12 8:33 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 10/1/2012 6:46 PM, Justin wrote:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/01/washington-confirms-chinese-hack-attack-on-white-house-computer/?test=latestnews
>>
>>
>>
>> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,' a
>> White House official told FoxNews.com. 'These types of attacks are not
>> infrequent and we have mitigation measures in place.'"
>>
>> The only way to "mitigate" Windows security is to completely block the
>> outside Internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> "By opening the email, which likely contained a link to a malicious site
>> or some form of attachment, the agency member allowed the Chinese hacker
>> to access a system, explained Anup Ghosh, founder and CEO of security
>> company Invincea."
>>
>> Clicked - then redirected and something was installed on the machine.
>> YAY Windows!
>> Only on Windows can one false click infect a computer.
>> It wouldn't have happened on OSX... or and unix-like OS either.
>
>
> "Newly discovered Android security flaw can wipe your phone with the
> click of a link"
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/newly-discovered-android-security-flaw-wipe-phone-click-010830893.html
>

Here's another flaw that could wipe out the info on a smartphone...
Dropping it in a puddle. I guess the phone is flawed because it isn't
waterproof?
Maybe Microsoft will come out with a perfect phone.
Like the Kin!

[Justin]

On 10/1/12 7:07 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 10/1/2012 6:46 PM, Justin wrote:
>
>
>> "'This was a spear phishing attack against an unclassified network,' a
>
> It's an attack that was against the network a phishing attack stupid
> that compromised Web servers that redirected users to another site when
> the White House site was visited. The network was compromised a Web
> server was compromised.

Holy run on sentence! Ever heard of a comma?

>
> Penguin Powers White House: Linux Server for WhiteHouse
>
> http://sourcedigit.com/503-penguin-powers-white-house-linux-server-for-whitehouse/
>

The machine that was infected was Windows. That's what they used as a
beachhead to get further into the network.

It doesn't take a "CompTIA" student to figure that one out.

[Big Steel]

You are a clown. They can use any computer O/S to attack that Web server
and sit as the middle man between the client's browser and the attackers
fake Web site.

> It doesn't take a "CompTIA" student to figure that one out.
>

You are a clown and you are talking some off the wall garbage. You no
more know how that network was attacked than the man in the moon.

[Big Steel]

No you were flawed for dropping the phone in the water stupid. That's
like saying you were shit-faced drunk, and you stepped on the gas
peddle instead of the break peddle so it's the car's fault it was flawed
when you went off the cliff.

> Maybe Microsoft will come out with a perfect phone.
> Like the Kin!
>

Maybe, your mama will dump out a better you, but it's too late now, huh?
The world is stuck with you little Justin.

[Big Steel]

On 10/2/2012 9:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message<k4dkm5$pqb$1...@dont-email.me>

> Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>> I completely disagree about Windows improving. I have not seen any
>> reduction in various malware/virus infections since Windows 2000.
>

> Windows 7 is a lot better than XP or Vista, and more secure than any MS
> OS since Windows 2000.
>
>> PC gaming is dead.
>
> That's simply not true.
>
> If anything, it is console gaming that is withering.
>

It's Bam Bam Justin. He's loose out of his playpen, and you might as
well be posting to a brick wall.

[Justin]

On 10/2/12 9:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <k4dkm5$pqb$1...@dont-email.me>
> Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:

>> I completely disagree about Windows improving. I have not seen any
>> reduction in various malware/virus infections since Windows 2000.
>

> Windows 7 is a lot better than XP or Vista, and more secure than any MS
> OS since Windows 2000.

I agree.
and it still sucks.

[Justin]

I'm sure with your "CompTIA" certification you would be able to figure
it out.
After all, so many employers are looking for that sacred A+. Best Buy's
Geek Squad for example.
Bwahahahahaha!

[Snit]

On 10/8/12 6:30 PM, in article k4vunu$dp5$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"

XP was pretty good for its time.

Vista was released before hardware was ready for it and without drivers for
products it shipped with.

Windows 7 has actually been a pretty good OS for most of the people I know
who use it... actually cannot think of an exception off the top of my head.


Does not mean Windows 7 has been ideal or that other options might not serve
people as well, but Windows 7 is a pretty good OS.

[Justin]

On 10/8/12 9:36 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 10/8/12 6:30 PM, in article k4vunu$dp5$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"
> <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/12 9:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <k4dkm5$pqb$1...@dont-email.me>
>>> Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>>>> I completely disagree about Windows improving. I have not seen any
>>>> reduction in various malware/virus infections since Windows 2000.
>>>
>>> Windows 7 is a lot better than XP or Vista, and more secure than any MS
>>> OS since Windows 2000.
>>
>> I agree.
>> and it still sucks.
>
> XP was pretty good for its time.

XP was shit. The Firewall was useless and caused more problems than it
solved.

>
> Vista was released before hardware was ready for it and without drivers for
> products it shipped with.

People actually used Vista? I guess the advantage to Vista that the
machines were so slow even if one was hacked it wouldn't be able to do
anything for very long.

>
> Windows 7 has actually been a pretty good OS for most of the people I know
> who use it... actually cannot think of an exception off the top of my head.

The Firewall still sucks.
Malware can install install via one false click.

>
>
> Does not mean Windows 7 has been ideal or that other options might not serve
> people as well, but Windows 7 is a pretty good OS.
>

I agree. Windows is not ideal for scientific research, cluster
computing, web servers, graphics design, video editing, education,
business, porn, and gaming.

Its perfectly suited for everything else though.

[Snit]

On 10/8/12 7:08 PM, in article k500uq$ns3$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"

<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:

> On 10/8/12 9:36 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 10/8/12 6:30 PM, in article k4vunu$dp5$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"
>> <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/2/12 9:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <k4dkm5$pqb$1...@dont-email.me>
>>>> Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>>>>> I completely disagree about Windows improving. I have not seen any
>>>>> reduction in various malware/virus infections since Windows 2000.
>>>>
>>>> Windows 7 is a lot better than XP or Vista, and more secure than any MS
>>>> OS since Windows 2000.
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>> and it still sucks.
>>
>> XP was pretty good for its time.
>
> XP was shit. The Firewall was useless and caused more problems than it
> solved.

In your opinion. Sure. Just as my comments were in my opinion.

>> Vista was released before hardware was ready for it and without drivers for
>> products it shipped with.
>
> People actually used Vista? I guess the advantage to Vista that the
> machines were so slow even if one was hacked it wouldn't be able to do
> anything for very long.

Er?

>> Windows 7 has actually been a pretty good OS for most of the people I know
>> who use it... actually cannot think of an exception off the top of my head.
>
> The Firewall still sucks.
> Malware can install install via one false click.

Overall it has served many, many people very well.

>> Does not mean Windows 7 has been ideal or that other options might not serve
>> people as well, but Windows 7 is a pretty good OS.
>
> I agree. Windows is not ideal for scientific research, cluster
> computing, web servers, graphics design, video editing, education,
> business, porn, and gaming.
>
> Its perfectly suited for everything else though.

Again: it serves many people very well. What do you think would serve them
better?

[Big Steel]

[Justin]

It doesn't serve them very well at all - most are just too ignorant to
know any better. They're like battered women who think that getting
beat is normal. Basically Microsoft is the Sandusky of modern
computing. However that is changing, as evidenced by Apple's increased
success in the business and enterprise markets.
Conficker would not have happened if more used OSX or any other unix
like OS.

If Apple is so bad, why did AutoCAD develop a completely new version
native to OSX?

[Justin]

On 10/8/12 10:27 PM, Big Steel wrote:

[FDK]

"Justin" wrote in message news:k508u7$q4s$1...@dont-email.me...

On 10/8/12 10:11 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 10/8/12 7:08 PM, in article k500uq$ns3$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"
> <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:

Snip Justins rambling drivel.

>If Apple is so bad, why did AutoCAD develop a completely new version
>native to OSX?

DUH - to sell a few million copies?

[Big Steel]

[Big Steel]

Little Bam Bam Justin should be fired from the Ford Motor company He has
no business sitting in a cubical. He's a waste of Ford's money.

[Snit]

On 10/8/12 9:24 PM, in article k508u7$q4s$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"
<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:

...

>>> Its perfectly suited for everything else though.
>>
>> Again: it serves many people very well. What do you think would serve them
>> better?
>
> It doesn't serve them very well at all - most are just too ignorant to
> know any better.

What a silly and unsupportable claim. I know people with experience using
Linux, OS X, and Windows and they *pick* Windows. For you to say you know
better than them - without knowing them or anything about them - is absurd.

And they are representative of millions of people.

> They're like battered women who think that getting beat is normal. Basically
> Microsoft is the Sandusky of modern computing. However that is changing, as
> evidenced by Apple's increased success in the business and enterprise markets.
> Conficker would not have happened if more used OSX or any other unix like OS.
>
> If Apple is so bad, why did AutoCAD develop a completely new version native to
> OSX?

I never said Apple was doing poorly or was not a good choice. Heck, I am
using a Mac right now... OS X is my preferred OS.

[Big Steel]

On 10/9/2012 11:25 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message<k4vunu$dp5$1...@dont-email.me>

> Well, yes, that goes without saying. It *is* Windows.
>

Your dime a dozen opinion doesn't seem to mean a whole lot to the rest
of the world, huh? Am I right in assuming that your opinion accounts for
absolutely nothing?

[Justin]

On 10/9/12 10:27 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 10/8/12 9:24 PM, in article k508u7$q4s$1...@dont-email.me, "Justin"
> <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>
> ...
>>>> Its perfectly suited for everything else though.
>>>
>>> Again: it serves many people very well. What do you think would serve them
>>> better?
>>
>> It doesn't serve them very well at all - most are just too ignorant to
>> know any better.
>
> What a silly and unsupportable claim. I know people with experience using
> Linux, OS X, and Windows and they *pick* Windows.

No you don't. Stop fibbing. The problem is you eventually start
believing your own lies.

[Justin]

About the same as your "CompTIA" certification.
BAM BAM!

[Justin]

On 10/9/12 8:50 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>

those CompTIA exams aren't going to pass themselves.

[Big Steel]

[Big Steel]

[Justin]

Black Betty, BAM BAM!

On 10/9/12 11:30 PM, Big Steel wrote:

[Justin]

Black Betty, BAM BAM!

On 10/9/12 11:31 PM, Big Steel wrote: