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vallor

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Feb 25, 2016, 6:58:06 PM2/25/16
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Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound on
my spandy-new motherboard.

It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to be
heard.

I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
yet on this particular motherboard.

Soon though -- very soon. :)

--
-v
Kernel:4.5.0-rc5-sd Desktop:Xfce 4.12.2 Distro:Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa

flatfish+++

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Feb 25, 2016, 7:10:17 PM2/25/16
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:

> Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound on
> my spandy-new motherboard.
>
> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
> Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
> actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to be
> heard.
>
> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
> yet on this particular motherboard.
>
> Soon though -- very soon. :)

Might be a kernel bug.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111021


Melzzzzz

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Feb 25, 2016, 7:27:50 PM2/25/16
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On 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 GMT
vallor <val...@cultnix.org> wrote:

> Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound
> on my spandy-new motherboard.
>
> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
> Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
> actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to
> be heard.
>
> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite
> working yet on this particular motherboard.
>
> Soon though -- very soon. :)
>
Does this helps, post from 2013:

rmmod snd_hda_intel
modprobe snd_hda_intel position_fix=1

Slimer

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Feb 25, 2016, 7:42:38 PM2/25/16
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On 2016-02-25 6:58 PM, vallor wrote:
> Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound on
> my spandy-new motherboard.

I'll bet that it's a Linux problem.

> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
> Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
> actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to be
> heard.

Linux problem.

> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
> yet on this particular motherboard.
>
> Soon though -- very soon. :)

When the pre-teen Linux developers get out of detention and program
decent support for you.

--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia Member / Conservative Party of Canada, PETA, IFAW and
Mozilla Supporter
"There are 50 million Muslims in Europe, 80% are beggars on welfare."

Melzzzzz

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Feb 25, 2016, 8:12:22 PM2/25/16
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:42:36 -0500
Slimer <a...@unseen.is.invalid> wrote:

> On 2016-02-25 6:58 PM, vallor wrote:
> > Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard
> > sound on my spandy-new motherboard.
>
> I'll bet that it's a Linux problem.
>
> > It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
> > Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
> > actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing
> > to be heard.
>
> Linux problem.
>
> > I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> > annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite
> > working yet on this particular motherboard.
> >
> > Soon though -- very soon. :)
>
> When the pre-teen Linux developers get out of detention and program
> decent support for you.
>

Oh, does you dirk off every time Linux fails to do something ? ;)

vallor

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Feb 25, 2016, 9:30:14 PM2/25/16
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$ grep "^options" /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf
options snd cards_limit=16
options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 power_save=0

Good eye though :)

vallor

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Feb 25, 2016, 9:37:21 PM2/25/16
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Why do you feed this troll?

He seems to think developers are anonymous, and that nobody can go see
who is working on what part of the kernel.

He is a clown.

Stop feeding the trolls. :P

William Poaster

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Feb 26, 2016, 4:45:07 AM2/26/16
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It was reported that vallor posted:
+1

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This message is virus free, as absolutely
NO Micro$oft products were used in its preparation.

"If you do want to clean your computer of malware, the first software to
delete is Windows."
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Desk Rabbit

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Feb 26, 2016, 5:57:05 AM2/26/16
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On 25/02/2016 23:58, vallor wrote:
> Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound on
> my spandy-new motherboard.
>
> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
> Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
> actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to be
> heard.
>
> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
> yet on this particular motherboard.
>
> Soon though -- very soon. :)
>

Choose the correct operating system and you'll be fine ;-)

Chris Ahlstrom

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Feb 26, 2016, 6:21:41 AM2/26/16
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vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 02:12:13 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:42:36 -0500 Slimer <a...@unseen.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> When the pre-teen Linux developers get out of detention and program
>>> decent support for you.
>>>
>> Oh, does you dirk off every time Linux fails to do something ? ;)
>
> Why do you feed this troll?

And that was one of "Slimer"'s more hai-kwality statements! :-D

> He seems to think developers are anonymous, and that nobody can go see
> who is working on what part of the kernel.
>
> He is a clown.

And worse.

> Stop feeding the trolls. :P

Yeah, "Slimer" ain't shit.

--
Q: How do you shoot a blue elephant?
A: With a blue-elephant gun.

Q: How do you shoot a pink elephant?
A: Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with
a blue-elephant gun.

chrisv

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Feb 26, 2016, 7:45:45 AM2/26/16
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vallor wrote:

> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>> Oh, does you dirk off every time Linux fails to do something ? ;)
>
>Why do you feed this troll?

Good question.

>He seems to think developers are anonymous, and that nobody can go see
>who is working on what part of the kernel.
>
>He is a clown.
>
>Stop feeding the trolls. :P

At *least* we should not be rewarding "Slimer's" level of brain-dead
assholery.

--
"So sorry, but Vista is a big sales and financial success for MS" -
Dumfsck

owl

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Feb 26, 2016, 8:16:48 AM2/26/16
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Q: How do you shoot a blue elephant?
> A: With a blue-elephant gun.
>
> Q: How do you shoot a pink elephant?
> A: Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with
> a blue-elephant gun.

Thanks, Little Beaver! Everybody loves a good elephant murder joke.
Especially when it involves torture.

Ezekiel

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Feb 26, 2016, 12:19:10 PM2/26/16
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"owl" <o...@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
news:fhjgid...@rooftop.invalid...
I thought that jokes were supposed to be funny?

A typical 3rd grader would find that "joke" stupid.

Why would anyone think this "joke" is so funny that they would save it and
then repost it?



John Gohde

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Feb 26, 2016, 12:36:06 PM2/26/16
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Hack!

Slimer

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Feb 26, 2016, 12:54:24 PM2/26/16
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Dirk off? I think you forgot to take your Serbian imitation meds this
morning.

vallor

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Feb 26, 2016, 1:46:54 PM2/26/16
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:18:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Q: How do you shoot a blue elephant?
> A: With a blue-elephant gun.
>
> Q: How do you shoot a pink elephant?
> A: Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with
> a blue-elephant gun.

Line 39878 of /usr/games/fortunes/fortunes.

If you peek in the snubbery, you'll see people who don't recognize the
Unix fortune program output.

While that is not proof that they are Unix pikers and carpetbaggers, it
is strong evidence to support that conclusion.

FORTUNE(6) UNIX Reference Manual FORTUNE(6)

NAME
fortune - print a random, hopefully interesting, adage

SYNOPSIS
fortune [-acefilosuw] [-n length] [ -m pattern] [[n%]
file/dir/all]

DESCRIPTION
When fortune is run with no arguments it prints out a
random epigram. Epigrams are divided into several cate‐
gories, where each category is sub-divided into those
which are potentially offensive and those which are not.

[...]

BSD Experimental 19 April 94 [May. 97] FORTUNE(6)

owl

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Feb 26, 2016, 3:19:59 PM2/26/16
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vallor <val...@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:18:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Q: How do you shoot a blue elephant?
>> A: With a blue-elephant gun.
>>
>> Q: How do you shoot a pink elephant?
>> A: Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with
>> a blue-elephant gun.
>
> Line 39878 of /usr/games/fortunes/fortunes.
>
> If you peek in the snubbery, you'll see people who don't recognize the
> Unix fortune program output.
>

OMG I've never heard of `fortune`! You are so leet!
They should mention that program in beginners unix books.
Oh wait...

[ snip unix guru arcana ]

>
> BSD Experimental 19 April 94 [May. 97] FORTUNE(6)
>

Nice Linux advocacy, Jabba. (Are you an assburger btw?)

owl

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Feb 26, 2016, 3:44:00 PM2/26/16
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Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>
> "owl" <o...@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
> news:fhjgid...@rooftop.invalid...
>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> Q: How do you shoot a blue elephant?
>>> A: With a blue-elephant gun.
>>>
>>> Q: How do you shoot a pink elephant?
>>> A: Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with
>>> a blue-elephant gun.
>>
>> Thanks, Little Beaver! Everybody loves a good elephant murder joke.
>> Especially when it involves torture.
>>
>
> I thought that jokes were supposed to be funny?
>
> A typical 3rd grader would find that "joke" stupid.
>

Little Beaver is not your typical 3r grader.

> Why would anyone think this "joke" is so funny that they would save it and
> then repost it?
>

He tells it to everybody. He can't always hold back giggling before
he finishes telling it though. And most of his jokes result in bruises.

DFS

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Feb 26, 2016, 8:26:26 PM2/26/16
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On 2/26/2016 7:45 AM, shitv wrote:

> "So sorry, but Vista is a big sales and financial success for MS" -
> Dumfsck


That's right, turd. It was a big success, despite the drooling lies
coming out of cola "advocates'" pieholes. It reached 24% user share
before it was replaced by Win7.

Keep hope alive that desktop Linux will EVER reach such big numbers,
despite being free of cost for 20+ years.


--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Linux rules the world, man!", shitv, babbling like Fraud 7 and
Hypocrite Homer.

"the obscurity of Linux", shitv, contradicting himself as he frequently
does.
--------------------------------------------------------------------


Slimer

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Feb 27, 2016, 10:21:02 AM2/27/16
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On 2016-02-26 8:26 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 2/26/2016 7:45 AM, shitv wrote:
>
>> "So sorry, but Vista is a big sales and financial success for MS" -
>> Dumfsck
>
>
> That's right, turd. It was a big success, despite the drooling lies
> coming out of cola "advocates'" pieholes. It reached 24% user share
> before it was replaced by Win7.

Like I said before, the beta wasn't very good but the final product
worked quite well and the Ultimate edition they gave me for sorting out
bugs was my main operating system until they gave me Windows 7 Ultimate.
I relied on Vista and it did the job marvelously. The only gripe I had
was how long the Control Panel took to update but who knows what the
actual issue with that was.

> Keep hope alive that desktop Linux will EVER reach such big numbers,
> despite being free of cost for 20+ years.

Even free, Linux is a rip-off. It is way too destructive to be taken
seriously.

Fabian Russell

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Feb 27, 2016, 11:51:49 AM2/27/16
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:

>
> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
> yet on this particular motherboard.
>

What is the output of amixer? Please post the complete output.

P.S. I love the "amixer" command. It's output is enough to
send chills down the spines of all those chicken-shit Microsoft
idiots.

But amixer will tell you EVERYTHING about your soundcard.

Where is the fscking MS Windows equivalent?


DFS

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Feb 27, 2016, 5:17:22 PM2/27/16
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* click the Sound button in Windows Control Panel

* Or go to Device Manager and right-click on the device and choose
Properties

* Or download the free of cost SiSoft Sandra Lite


You gibbering moron.





Fabian Russell

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Feb 27, 2016, 6:19:17 PM2/27/16
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:17:10 -0500, DFS wrote:

>>
>> Where is the fscking MS Windows equivalent?
>
>
> * click the Sound button in Windows Control Panel
>
> * Or go to Device Manager and right-click on the device and choose
> Properties
>

Hoooo, haa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaa, heee, ha, ha, ha!

It doesn't even come close to amixer! Not even within a
thousand miles!

The automaton managers at Microsoft do not want to burden
what they conceive as the average user.

Shouldn't they just provide everything and let the actual
user decide?

But that would be the GNU/Linux way and not the Mixrosoft
way.

>
> * Or download the free of cost SiSoft Sandra Lite
>

Hobbyware on MS Windows? Oh the shame!

But the shame is on Microsoft when cheap hobbyware has to make
up for the deficiencies of MS Windows.


vallor

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Feb 27, 2016, 7:39:50 PM2/27/16
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(sigh) you creeped out of my killfile again, but I guess you can stay for
a while.

What follows is the output of "amixer", followed by the much-more-
detailed "alsactl -f output.txt store 0 ; cat output.txt"...

BTW, I'm not expecting help from an advocacy group, but if it were to
actually happen, I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. :P

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

Simple mixer control 'Master',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 99
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 99 [100%] [9.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Playback 99 [100%] [9.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: pvolume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 255
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic SVM',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic1-Boost (30dB)',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on] Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',16
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 99
Front Left: Capture 98 [99%] [8.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Capture 98 [99%] [8.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'AMic1/DMic',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'AMic1/DMic Auto Detect',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Analog-Mic2',0
Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 99
Front Left: Capture 90 [91%] [0.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Capture 90 [91%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'CrystalVoice',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Crystalizer',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Dialog Plus',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Echo Cancellation',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Equalizer',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'HP/Speaker',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'HP/Speaker Auto Detect',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Noise Reduction',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'PlayEnhancement',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Smart Volume',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Voice Focus',0
Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'VoiceFX',0
Capabilities: cenum
Items: 'Neutral' 'Female2Male' 'Male2Female' 'ScrappyKid' 'Elderly'
'Orc' 'Elf' 'Dwarf' 'AlienBrute' 'Robot' 'Marine' 'Emo' 'DeepVoice'
'Munchkin'
Item0: 'Neutral'
Simple mixer control 'What U Hear',0
Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 99
Front Left: Capture 92 [93%] [2.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Capture 92 [93%] [2.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'X-Bass',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
state.PCH {
control.1 {
iface MIXER
name 'Master Playback Volume'
value.0 99
value.1 99
comment {
access 'read write'
type INTEGER
count 2
range '0 - 99'
dbmin -9000
dbmax 900
dbvalue.0 900
dbvalue.1 900
}
}
control.2 {
iface MIXER
name 'Master Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 2
}
}
control.3 {
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Volume'
value.0 98
value.1 98
comment {
access 'read write'
type INTEGER
count 2
range '0 - 99'
dbmin -9000
dbmax 900
dbvalue.0 800
dbvalue.1 800
}
}
control.4 {
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 2
}
}
control.5 {
iface MIXER
name 'Analog-Mic2 Capture Volume'
value.0 90
value.1 90
comment {
access 'read write'
type INTEGER
count 2
range '0 - 99'
dbmin -9000
dbmax 900
dbvalue.0 0
dbvalue.1 0
}
}
control.6 {
iface MIXER
name 'Analog-Mic2 Capture Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 2
}
}
control.7 {
iface MIXER
name 'What U Hear Capture Volume'
value.0 92
value.1 92
comment {
access 'read write'
type INTEGER
count 2
range '0 - 99'
dbmin -9000
dbmax 900
dbvalue.0 200
dbvalue.1 200
}
}
control.8 {
iface MIXER
name 'What U Hear Capture Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 2
}
}
control.9 {
iface MIXER
name 'Mic1-Boost (30dB) Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.10 {
iface MIXER
name 'HP/Speaker Playback Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.11 {
iface MIXER
name 'AMic1/DMic Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.12 {
iface MIXER
name 'HP/Speaker Auto Detect Playback Switch'
value false
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.13 {
iface MIXER
name 'AMic1/DMic Auto Detect Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.14 {
iface MIXER
name 'Surround Playback Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.15 {
iface MIXER
name 'Crystalizer Playback Switch'
value false
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.16 {
iface MIXER
name 'Dialog Plus Playback Switch'
value false
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.17 {
iface MIXER
name 'Smart Volume Playback Switch'
value false
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.18 {
iface MIXER
name 'X-Bass Playback Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.19 {
iface MIXER
name 'Equalizer Playback Switch'
value false
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.20 {
iface MIXER
name 'Echo Cancellation Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.21 {
iface MIXER
name 'Voice Focus Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.22 {
iface MIXER
name 'Mic SVM Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.23 {
iface MIXER
name 'Noise Reduction Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.24 {
iface MIXER
name 'PlayEnhancement Playback Switch'
value false
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.25 {
iface MIXER
name 'CrystalVoice Capture Switch'
value true
comment {
access 'read write'
type BOOLEAN
count 1
}
}
control.26 {
iface MIXER
name 'VoiceFX Capture Switch'
value Neutral
comment {
access 'read write'
type ENUMERATED
count 1
item.0 Neutral
item.1 Female2Male
item.2 Male2Female
item.3 ScrappyKid
item.4 Elderly
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Chris Ahlstrom

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vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 16:51:28 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
>>> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite
>>> working yet on this particular motherboard.
>>>
>>>
>> What is the output of amixer? Please post the complete output.
>>
>> P.S. I love the "amixer" command. It's output is enough to send chills
>> down the spines of all those chicken-shit Microsoft idiots.
>>
>> But amixer will tell you EVERYTHING about your soundcard.
>>
>> Where is the fscking MS Windows equivalent?
>
> (sigh) you creeped out of my killfile again, but I guess you can stay for
> a while.
>
> What follows is the output of "amixer", followed by the much-more-
> detailed "alsactl -f output.txt store 0 ; cat output.txt"...
>
> BTW, I'm not expecting help from an advocacy group, but if it were to
> actually happen, I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. :P
>
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
> Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
> Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> Limits: Playback 0 - 99
> Mono:
> Front Left: Playback 99 [100%] [9.00dB] [on]
> Front Right: Playback 99 [100%] [9.00dB] [on]
>
> <much snippage>

I'm sure you made some Wintrolls gasp, at just how much information
one can get about Linux audio without trolling the Registry or
that god-damn Device Manager. :-D

--
Your object is to save the world, while still leading a pleasant life.

flatfish+++

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Feb 27, 2016, 8:55:10 PM2/27/16
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Snip a long list of geek stuff needed to get sound working under
Linux.

And BTW Vallor, while you are playing around with all that wonderful
gibberish as it warms the cockels of your heart, I'm using a mixer
that looks like this:

http://www.rme-audio.de/images/products/TotalMix_UFX.jpg

Of course seeing as you can't manage to get even a lowly onboard
Creative Soundblaster chipset to work with Linux, you haven't a prayer
of USING something like this which installs with a couple of clicks.
Under Windows of course.

Oh, I should mention that for the ancient RME cards and the USB
BabyFace interface, Linux does have the hdspmixer.

But like all Linux solutions it doesn't support any of the advanced
features of the interface, like the DSP for example. That's those EQ
and Compressor items, amongst others like reverb you see in the
Windows screen shot. They operate at near zero latency as well so the
artist can use them in say a headphone mix via the direct monitoring
feature of TotalMix.

Don't work in Linux though.

Here is Linux's solution:

http://www.rme-audio.de/images/downloads/skin_totalmix_nuskin.jpg

Compare to Windows:

http://www.rme-audio.de/images/products/TotalMix_UFX.jpg

The Linux solution is nothing more than a collection of input and
output faders.

I'd get a headache looking at that awful mess 8 hours a day.

Linux: The operating system that turns your $800 RME Babyface
interface into a $19.95 Creative Soundblaster.


Fabian Russell

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Feb 27, 2016, 8:56:28 PM2/27/16
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:39:46 +0000, vallor wrote:

>
> followed by the much-more-detailed "alsactl"
>

The output of alsactl is not "much more detailed."

The output is just formatted differently but is otherwise
absolutely identical to the output of amixer.


>
> I'm not expecting help
>

I'm not going to solve your problem for you. It would involve
some research and I've got other fish to fry.

But you are the cause of your own difficulty.

Before you buy hardware, make sure it is compatible with Linux.
You should have checked the alsa lists before you spent your money.
I always do a bit of homework before I acquire a new mobo to determine
if sound, video, and LAN will not cause problems with Linux.
There is a lot of gimmicky junk out there that should be avoided.

Now, the MSFT shills will jump all over this as a putative example
of Linux inferiority. However, it is the vendors that are at fault
for not releasing the specs for their gimmicky hardware.

flatfish+++

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:05:15 PM2/27/16
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I can download the flight manual for a 777 plane as well.
Interesting for a lay person?
Maybe to some.
Needed to fly from NY to LA?
Nope.

Actually I got a big laugh out of it.
It seems like it would be useful for troubleshooting audio problems
under Linux.
The rest of us Windows users are too busy creating / recording /
listening to music to fool around with stuff like that.

Since that type of in depth information can be extracted from a Linux
audio system, the assumption is it is necessary at least for some
people.

Kind of like the 777 flight manual.

flatfish+++

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:09:52 PM2/27/16
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On 28 Feb 2016 01:55:19 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:39:46 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> followed by the much-more-detailed "alsactl"
>>
>
> The output of alsactl is not "much more detailed."
>
> The output is just formatted differently but is otherwise
> absolutely identical to the output of amixer.
>
>
>>
>> I'm not expecting help
>>

> Now, the MSFT shills will jump all over this as a putative example
> of Linux inferiority. However, it is the vendors that are at fault
> for not releasing the specs for their gimmicky hardware.

That gimmicky hardware as you call it is responsible for the music you
listen to no matter the medium the content it is delivered on.

The idea is to create, record, listen not to play around with cryptic
commands watching screens of data scroll by some of which *might*
allow the end user to get sound working properly on a Linux computer.

And when it comes to professional audio interfaces, Linux is a not
even a consideration.
Hell, vallor can't even get a crappy on board Creative SoundBlaster
chipset *fully working* under Linux.

vallor

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:15:08 PM2/27/16
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:55:19 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:39:46 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> followed by the much-more-detailed "alsactl"
>>
>>
> The output of alsactl is not "much more detailed."
>
> The output is just formatted differently but is otherwise absolutely
> identical to the output of amixer.
>
>
>
>> I'm not expecting help
>>
>>
> I'm not going to solve your problem for you. It would involve some
> research and I've got other fish to fry.
>
> But you are the cause of your own difficulty.

You are full of shit.

And why did you want to see the mixer output, if you were just going to
be an asshole about it? Go take a long walk off a short pier, noob.

>
> Before you buy hardware, make sure it is compatible with Linux.

I did, as I always do. Teach your grandmother to suck eggs, weasel.

And as you can see from the mixer output, the driver sees the hardware,
and controls it just fine.

The problem is, though, it never actually makes a sound. Other than
that, everything works.

I'll let you in on a little secret though:

Feb 27 00:13:45 eva kernel: [ 9.314893] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1:
Handle vga_switcheroo audio client
Feb 27 00:13:45 eva kernel: [ 9.321116] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3:
failed to add i915 component master (-19)

Which is probably very much relate to the problem. (Even though hand-
editing the driver to disable "switcheroo" hasn't gotten it working yet.)

So it's probably related to another feature in Linux -- one intended to
assist with Optimus/Bumblebee setups -- shutting down sound from the
chipset.

But all that is moot, because you have shown yourself to be nothing more
than a pompous blowhard that thinks he is God's Gift to Linux, when I've
been actually using Linux since the very beginning, and very well know to
check hardware capabilities before buying them for Linux.

I've been doing that since 1992. I've also contributed to drivers over
the years when they haven't worked quite right, as well as other issues
in the Linux kernel.

What have you done for Linux besides sit here and make true linux
advocates look bad?

> You should have checked the alsa li[KABOOM]

Just dry up and blow away, blowhard.

flatfish+++

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:23:21 PM2/27/16
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On 28 Feb 2016 02:15:04 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:55:19 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:39:46 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>
>>
>>> followed by the much-more-detailed "alsactl"
>>>
>>>
>> The output of alsactl is not "much more detailed."
>>
>> The output is just formatted differently but is otherwise absolutely
>> identical to the output of amixer.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm not expecting help
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not going to solve your problem for you. It would involve some
>> research and I've got other fish to fry.
>>
>> But you are the cause of your own difficulty.
>
> You are full of shit.
>
> And why did you want to see the mixer output, if you were just going to
> be an asshole about it? Go take a long walk off a short pier, noob.
>
>>
>> Before you buy hardware, make sure it is compatible with Linux.
>
> I did, as I always do. Teach your grandmother to suck eggs, weasel.
>
> And as you can see from the mixer output, the driver sees the hardware,
> and controls it just fine.
>
> The problem is, though, it never actually makes a sound. Other than
> that, everything works.

Classic Linux advocate response!!

So the everything on the sound card works but you don't get any sound?

My God, that has to be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!

But it's not unusual for Linux users to explain away their problems
with Linux in that manner.

Thanks for the laugh!

vallor

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:24:01 PM2/27/16
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Translation: "I, flatface, and technically-inept."

> needed to get sound working under Linux.

Why do you assume that the output "Fabian" requested has anything to do
with getting this working? Be specific.

>
> And BTW Vallor, while you are playing around with all that wonderful
> gibberish

Translation: "I, flatface, do not appreciate diagnostic output -- even
though when my Windows machine breaks, the technicians I call will use
similar information to diagnose a problem. Aren't I clever in my
ignorance?"

I also see that this one flatface has also, once again, been crawling out
of killfiles. There's a good reason to dump the idiot:

It's the same old story the guy has been doing for decades: pretend to
"play nice" with Linux users, then unleash his/her/its nasty bullshit
that twists, prevaricates, and snits the truth.

And indeed, regarding the latter: I wonder how much of a coincidence is
that flathead is back, and shithead is gone? Interesting, no?

flatfish+++

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:44:33 PM2/27/16
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Translation: Linux elitist argument.

The fact is my audio card works perfectly.
And yours?
The reality is I don't have to tread through pages of crap to get
sound working with Windows.
In fact as you can see from the mixer screen shot I posted, my
configuration is far more complex than your Soundblaster.

Works perfectly under Windows including the Audient ASP880 I have
connected to my RME.

https://audient.com/products/asp880?gclid=Cj0KEQiAr8W2BRD2qbCOv8_H7qEBEiQA1ErTBt3Wumaz7WNhxEzIhbbjivOP_ys_THlHSvK7cLpAW-4aAoaU8P8HAQ

Easy peasy.


>> needed to get sound working under Linux.
>
> Why do you assume that the output "Fabian" requested has anything to do
> with getting this working? Be specific.

Because all that crap is EXACTLY what you are now digging through to
get YOUR onboard Creative chipset working.

And you know it.

Specific enough for you?

>>
>> And BTW Vallor, while you are playing around with all that wonderful
>> gibberish
>
> Translation: "I, flatface, do not appreciate diagnostic output -- even
> though when my Windows machine breaks, the technicians I call will use
> similar information to diagnose a problem. Aren't I clever in my
> ignorance?"

Maybe you had better call a technician to interpret that information
so you can get your Creative Sound Blaster chipset to make a sound.
Oh, but you claim everything is working? But you are missing sound.

So maybe all of that information isn't going to be that useful.
Or maybe you just don't know how to interpret it.

The day I need something like that mess which was posted to get sound
functioning under Windows is the day I switch to a Mac.


> I also see that this one flatface has also, once again, been crawling out
> of killfiles. There's a good reason to dump the idiot:

Chicken.
I've been cordial to you despite your insults and condescnding
behavior.

You just don't like the fact that I know far more about audio than you
do and have pointed out the factual data to you and thus have made you
look inept and foolish.


> It's the same old story the guy has been doing for decades: pretend to
> "play nice" with Linux users, then unleash his/her/its nasty bullshit
> that twists, prevaricates, and snits the truth.

I have been nice.
Please show where I haven't been cordial to you?
I even offered advice that your sound problem might be kernel related.

You just don't like being challenged. You prefer a Linux advocate that
agrees with everything you say, never points out the truth, even when
it's so darn obvious like a soundcard that "works" under Linux but
produces no sound.

So you run and hide behind a kill file.


> And indeed, regarding the latter: I wonder how much of a coincidence is
> that flathead is back, and shithead is gone? Interesting, no?

More conspiracy theories.

You can run away now.

Melzzzzz

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Feb 27, 2016, 9:48:55 PM2/27/16
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On 28 Feb 2016 02:15:04 GMT
Hm , I found this for windows, they couldn't install audio driver on
windows 10 until DSP was disabled in BIOS.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=16554.0

vallor

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Feb 27, 2016, 10:11:38 PM2/27/16
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Yes, anybody with half a brain is an "elitist" in flatface world


>> Why do you assume that the output "Fabian" requested has anything to do
>> with getting this working? Be specific.
>
> Because all that crap is EXACTLY what you are now digging through to get
> YOUR onboard Creative chipset working.

No it isn't. Not even close.

>
> And you know it.

Oh, but wait a second -- if I _do_ know this (or know anything), then I'm
an "elitist". What does that make you if _you_ claim to "know it", hmmmm?

But no: this is not a problem with mixer settings. The only reason I
bothered to post them was to satisfy a request from someone I _thought_
was curious, but turned out to be an even bigger asshole than you.

>
> Specific enough for you?

That you're an idiot who knows next to nothing about computers, yet tries
to pretend you are qualified to discuss such matters among your betters?

Yes, you have made that abundantly clear. Now please run along and play
with your Windows -- you're in a Linux advocacy newsgroup, and you
clearly have no intention of any kind of salient discussion. Toodles.

Oh, one more thing:

> Chicken.
> I've been cordial to you despite your insults and condescnding behavior.

Who does this guy think he's fooling?

flatfish+++

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Feb 27, 2016, 10:23:45 PM2/27/16
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
It's the way you act toward other people that makes you an elitist and
it's a typical Linux advocate tactic.
In fact it's very popular in the Linux world.
RTFM is one example.
Linus himself is another prime example.
People who are not would include people like Einstein.



>
>>> Why do you assume that the output "Fabian" requested has anything to do
>>> with getting this working? Be specific.
>>
>> Because all that crap is EXACTLY what you are now digging through to get
>> YOUR onboard Creative chipset working.
>
> No it isn't. Not even close.

Yea it is.
You are running every CLI command you can dig up to gather data and
information to give you a clue as to why your sound isn't working
under Linux.

How else would you troubleshoot the problem?


>>
>> And you know it.
>
> Oh, but wait a second -- if I _do_ know this (or know anything), then I'm
> an "elitist". What does that make you if _you_ claim to "know it", hmmmm?

See above.
Being an elitist means having an elitist attitude.
It has nothing to do with how much knowledge you have or don't have.


> But no: this is not a problem with mixer settings. The only reason I
> bothered to post them was to satisfy a request from someone I _thought_
> was curious, but turned out to be an even bigger asshole than you.

Of course it's not.
I never said it did.

I just said that is the kind of information you are wading through.

>>
>> Specific enough for you?
>
> That you're an idiot who knows next to nothing about computers, yet tries
> to pretend you are qualified to discuss such matters among your betters?

More of that elitist attitude.
You really like to squawk when cornered.

> Yes, you have made that abundantly clear. Now please run along and play
> with your Windows -- you're in a Linux advocacy newsgroup, and you
> clearly have no intention of any kind of salient discussion. Toodles.

I'll remember that next time you or anyone else here post about their
Windows woes.

Keep digging that hole.


> Oh, one more thing:
>
>> Chicken.
>> I've been cordial to you despite your insults and condescnding behavior.
>
> Who does this guy think he's fooling?

Snipping and running again.

You still haven't pointed out where I have been anything but cordial.

Face it Scott, you've been steam rolled by me in this thread.

BTW you might want to check out what Melzzz posted. That looks like a
good lead.

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Feb 27, 2016, 10:32:29 PM2/27/16
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BleedingEdge hardware lacks (Linux) drivers.

Is this news ? ! I don't think so.

I'm surprised that you admitted to it here, in public.

Delgato

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Feb 27, 2016, 10:47:37 PM2/27/16
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"vallor" <val...@cultnix.org> said
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 16:51:28 +0000, Fabian Russell said
>
>>
>> But amixer will tell you EVERYTHING about your soundcard.
>>
>> Where is the fscking MS Windows equivalent?
>
> (sigh) you creeped out of my killfile again, but I guess you can
> stay for a while.
>


that you dumb willy? or is it some other moron that loves talking about some kill files that he's too stupid to use.

do tell how Lester creeped out of your killfile again? more likely you're much too stupid to use a killfile, again.

stop talking about your killfiles, get off your fat arse and quit spending your life tweaking linsux all day and night.





vallor

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Feb 27, 2016, 11:00:41 PM2/27/16
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> Hm , I found this for windows, they couldn't install audio driver on
> windows 10 until DSP was disabled in BIOS.
> http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=16554.0

Well, the BIOS/EFI I was running didn't have that option -- but it was
the latest, and marked "beta". Version 7g.

I back-graded to version 6 (the latest non-beta), and that didn't have
the "disable DSP" option either. For whatever reason, they seem to have
removed it.

I guess I could disable DSP support in the driver, but something tells me
that won't help. (It didn't have DSP support to begin with, I had to
enable it.)

I'm also not willing to spend any more time on it for a while, after
seeing that an honest and forthright post about an _actual sound problem_
(and not a pretend one) has yielded mostly jeering from the kneebiters.

I have sound devices coming out of my ears, so this one not working is
just an annoyance -- hell, I have a Cambridge DAC that isn't even plugged
in, which has SPDIF out. (Which I guess makes it more of a "DDC", but
you get the idea.)

DFS

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Feb 27, 2016, 11:03:25 PM2/27/16
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On 2/27/2016 6:20 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:17:10 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Where is the fscking MS Windows equivalent?
>>
>>
>> * click the Sound button in Windows Control Panel
>>
>> * Or go to Device Manager and right-click on the device and choose
>> Properties
>>
>
> Hoooo, haa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaa, heee, ha, ha, ha!
>
> It doesn't even come close to amixer! Not even within a thousand
> miles!


Windows Device Manager | <device> | Properties | Details makes your
'amixer' command look like a chump, even if some of the details are
buried in gobbledygook like

D:P(A;;GA;;;SY)(A;;GXGWGR;;;BA)(A;;GXGWGR;;;WD)(A;;GXGWGR;;;RC)


Plus you can also write PowerShell scripts to get Device Properties and
details.

You're a serious idiot, Fabian/Lester/Vile. Why?



> The automaton managers at Microsoft do not want to burden what they
> conceive as the average user.
>
> Shouldn't they just provide everything and let the actual user
> decide?

"everything" meaning what?

I'll now teach you something you didn't know about Windows: it has
performance monitoring tools that make your simpleton Linux hobbyware
look like it was created by a student for a college CompSci class...
whoops, it really was created by a student for a college CompSci class.

Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Performance Monitor. Under
Monitoring Tools choose Performance Monitor. When the graph window
opens, click the big green + sign. Then look at all the built-in stuff
you can monitor. The Server entry alone has 35 metrics you can track.
And you can monitor these things on any computer on the network.

"TypePerf -q > counters.txt" will output a list of all counters. There
are 1,879 of them (listed below), all easily viewable and discoverable
via point and click.

Linux can't compete.


> But that would be the GNU/Linux way and not the Mixrosoft way.
>
>>
>> * Or download the free of cost SiSoft Sandra Lite
>>
>
> Hobbyware on MS Windows? Oh the shame!
>
> But the shame is on Microsoft when cheap hobbyware has to make up for
> the deficiencies of MS Windows.



SiSoft Sandra is the furthest thing from hobbyware. It's a powerful
commercial product. Currently on sale for $24.99 for the Personal
Edition, but the Business Tech Support edition sells for $300.

http://www.sisoftware.net

There is NO equivalent product in the FOSS crapware world. Nothing even
comes close. Guess why? That's right - you MS-hating assholes are
cheap and broke, and won't fund continuing development. You wait and
hope someone will develop something good for free - and they almost
never do.

Examples of cheapness: There are a few million Linux Mint users, but in
Dec 2015 only 714 donated anything, for a total of $16,736.

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2985

That $16K was a huge anomaly; usually the Mint "community" donates
around $7K to $8K per month.

http://www.linuxmint.com/donors.php




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MS is doomed.
Linux won.

DFS

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On 2/27/2016 9:15 PM, vallor wrote:


> And as you can see from the mixer output, the driver sees the hardware,
> and controls it just fine.
>
> The problem is, though, it never actually makes a sound. Other than
> that, everything works.


ha! Absolutely classic bit of Linux 'just works' mythology!

(recorded for posterity)




> But all that is moot, because you have shown yourself to be nothing more
> than a pompous blowhard that thinks he is God's Gift to Linux, when I've
> been actually using Linux since the very beginning, and very well know to
> check hardware capabilities before buying them for Linux.
>
> I've been doing that since 1992. I've also contributed to drivers over
> the years when they haven't worked quite right, as well as other issues
> in the Linux kernel.

The more leet the Linux user, the bigger the waist... and you're VERY
leet, Bloaty.



> What have you done for Linux besides sit here and make true linux
> advocates look bad?


But he IS a true Linux advocate.

Hates MS? check
Hates Windows? check
Turns around and makes a living with Windows? check



Fabian Russell

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Feb 28, 2016, 7:22:11 AM2/28/16
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:09:49 -0500, flatfish+++ wrote:

>
> That gimmicky hardware as you call it is responsible for the music you
> listen to no matter the medium the content it is delivered on.
>

Not my music. Not now and not ever.

That gimmicky hardware is intended to dazzle the technically,
emotionally, culturally, and spiritually bereft inhabitant of modern
civilization with ever increasing (i.e. 22.2, 32.4, 56.8 etc.)
artificial vistas of panoramic surround sound.

Linux cannot be disparaged for failing to keep up with that
useless junk hardware.

Believe it or not, the most perfect sound reproduction remains
simple binaural recording with stereo playback. For this,
GNU/Linux is more than sufficient.


>
> The idea is to create, record, listen not to play around with cryptic
> commands
>

It's not cryptic. It may be cryptic to you but to others its just
simple and straightforward information. You are just too fscking lazy
to keep up with modern technology.

Even the average housewife has to understand the properties of microwaves
or else her dinners will fail to properly cook.

Fabian Russell

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Feb 28, 2016, 7:31:12 AM2/28/16
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:

>
> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo,
>

That's your problem.

That mb looks like it was put together by a cadre of homosexual
marketdroids drooling over the sales projections.

The old computing adage of "garbage in garbage out" applies
to the hardware-OS interface as well.

I need to remind you that GNU/Linux is a platform for professionals
and professional hardware. It doesn't like faggot junk. That queer
crap is made for MS Windows only.

Don't ever use inboard sound or graphics. Get cards that plug in
and check if they are currently Linux compatible. Otherwise
you'll get what you deserve.

Fabian Russell

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Feb 28, 2016, 7:48:12 AM2/28/16
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:

>
> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo,
>

I'll say it again, that's your problem.

Stay away from on-board audio. For my sound needs I continue to use
the Audiophile 2496 card from M-Audio. This is a professional product
and under Linux it performs ultimately.

What more could you fscking possibly want? What? WHAT???!!!

I approach sound and music from an intellectual perspective.
Therefore I do not require the current surround-sound, 3-D
gimmicks that are flooding the market.

Are you that fscking brain-dead to lust after that junk?

That festering crap is only made to dazzle the MS Windows jughead.

Be a real man. Use Linux only.

Ezekiel

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Feb 28, 2016, 8:09:28 AM2/28/16
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"flatfish+++" <flat...@songwriter.org> wrote in message
news:om03hx8n07q0.1cpyv87mkh2n1$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On 28 Feb 2016 03:11:35 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Translation: "I, flatface, and technically-inept."
>>>
>>> Translation: Linux elitist argument.
>>
>> Yes, anybody with half a brain is an "elitist" in flatface world
>
> One thing has nothing to do with the other.
> It's the way you act toward other people that makes you an elitist and
> it's a typical Linux advocate tactic.
> In fact it's very popular in the Linux world.
> RTFM is one example.
> Linus himself is another prime example.
> People who are not would include people like Einstein.
>

Elitist attitude or not... that's a different threshold for different
people. When I read something like this then I can judge for myself if
someone has an elitist attitude.

And it's not even called "X-Windows" -- or at least, not by anybody who
knows what their talking about.

It's either "X" or the "X Window System" -- never "X-Windows".
(vallor)


Then there was his earlier elitist rant snickering about MS being
incompetent with their msxml web object. Except that MS introduced this
first over half a decade before it was used as the basis for the web
standard.





Ezekiel

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Feb 28, 2016, 8:09:41 AM2/28/16
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"flatfish+++" <flat...@songwriter.org> wrote in message
news:1ch7jvwq90mzg.7...@40tude.net...
It's just like the classic - "Other than that, how did you like the play
Mrs. Lincoln?"

Sound on Linux is so much more l33t than Windows. Except that it doesn't
actually make a sound.


> But it's not unusual for Linux users to explain away their problems
> with Linux in that manner.
>
> Thanks for the laugh!

It was one of the first things I read with my first morning coffee.

For all it's faults, there's some real classics in cola once in a while.



flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 9:20:19 AM2/28/16
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Besides if this is a BIOS configuration issue that effects Windows as
well, it would be all over the net as that board is extremely popular.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 9:23:41 AM2/28/16
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:26:37 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 2/27/2016 9:15 PM, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> And as you can see from the mixer output, the driver sees the hardware,
>> and controls it just fine.
>>
>> The problem is, though, it never actually makes a sound. Other than
>> that, everything works.
>
>
> ha! Absolutely classic bit of Linux 'just works' mythology!
>
> (recorded for posterity)

It's hysterical how they, the Linux users, feel the need to justify
and explain away their problems.

I've said it for years, when you hear a Linux advocate claim something
"works for them" you must dig deeper and find out specifically what
constitutes "working".

In this case, vallor, the everything about the sound card/chip is
"working" but he gets no sound.

That's Linux advocacy for ya.


flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 9:27:49 AM2/28/16
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What cracks me up about people with attitudes like that is that while
they are wasting their breath explaining to others how deeply they are
delving into which piston in their motor failed, the average consumer
has already had the engine exchanged under warranty and is on the road
again.

I'm not saying information like that isn't useful, I'm saying that
people who use it as a tool to denigrate others in an effort to build
up their own ego and in my opinion attempt to justify the bigger
failure, in this case poor sound, are elitists.

It's the attitude, not the knowledge.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 9:29:15 AM2/28/16
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Yep.
Never a dull moment in Linux advocacy land.

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 10:47:28 AM2/28/16
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On 2016-02-27 8:55 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:

< snip >

> Linux: The operating system that turns your $800 RME Babyface
> interface into a $19.95 Creative Soundblaster.

Look at it this way: people have fond memories of what they were able to
accomplish, musically, with their old Atari 1040ST. It was enough for
them back in the 1980s and 1990s and all of the enhancements since then
are essentially unnecessary. What Linux does is it takes modern, capable
hardware and brings it back to 1985, to the joy of Linux advocates
everywhere.


--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia Member / Conservative Party of Canada, PETA, IFAW and
Mozilla Supporter
"There are 50 million Muslims in Europe, 80% are beggars on welfare."

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 10:49:51 AM2/28/16
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On 2016-02-27 9:09 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:

> And when it comes to professional audio interfaces, Linux is a not
> even a consideration.
> Hell, vallor can't even get a crappy on board Creative SoundBlaster
> chipset *fully working* under Linux.

It's just one of the many things vallor the Hutt can't do like eat
healthy and find a woman who embraces his obesity.

flatfish+++

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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:47:27 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-02-27 8:55 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>
> < snip >
>
>> Linux: The operating system that turns your $800 RME Babyface
>> interface into a $19.95 Creative Soundblaster.
>
> Look at it this way: people have fond memories of what they were able to
> accomplish, musically, with their old Atari 1040ST. It was enough for
> them back in the 1980s and 1990s and all of the enhancements since then
> are essentially unnecessary. What Linux does is it takes modern, capable
> hardware and brings it back to 1985, to the joy of Linux advocates
> everywhere.

Good way of looking at it!
I used to run Dr T's on an Atari 1040ST.

Some people have very low expectations and at least in the audio /
music world, Linux fulfills those expectations.

Good music *can* be made with Linux.
The real question is why would a person want to, other than satisfying
the tinkerer within and making some kind of anti corporate FOSS
statement?

Windows and OSX have all the professional "toys" if you will. This
allows a superior result with less focus on the machines and more
focus on the performance.

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:03:29 AM2/28/16
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On 2016-02-28 7:32 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo,
>>
>
> That's your problem.

Gigabyte motherboards are generally rated as the second best on the
market after ASUS. Sometimes it trades places with MSI which is in third
but generally it holds onto its second place. Having such hardware is
not a problem, liar.

> That mb looks like it was put together by a cadre of homosexual
> marketdroids drooling over the sales projections.
>
> The old computing adage of "garbage in garbage out" applies
> to the hardware-OS interface as well.
>
> I need to remind you that GNU/Linux is a platform for professionals
> and professional hardware. It doesn't like faggot junk. That queer
> crap is made for MS Windows only.

Except that you're lying. I've noticed that Linux supports cheap
hardware beautifully but fails miserably with anything costing more than
a $20 bill. For you to insult Gigabyte demonstrates your complete lack
of knowledge about hardware.

> Don't ever use inboard sound or graphics. Get cards that plug in
> and check if they are currently Linux compatible. Otherwise
> you'll get what you deserve.

On-board sound nowadays is as good as what cards used to offer before. A
separate card is still better, especially nowadays, but it's unnecessary.

owl

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:06:50 AM2/28/16
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At some point he will think unmute it. Maybe. :)

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:21:04 AM2/28/16
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 11:03:28 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-02-28 7:32 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo,
>>>
>>
>> That's your problem.
>
> Gigabyte motherboards are generally rated as the second best on the
> market after ASUS. Sometimes it trades places with MSI which is in third
> but generally it holds onto its second place. Having such hardware is
> not a problem, liar.

I've used both Asus and GigaByte and prefer the Gigabyte UD series.
Pick one up and you will instantly feel how massive they are.
Very heavy due to heat sinks, large capacitors and so forth.

You are right they do trade places with Asus all the time.
An neither is exempt from quirks but compared to the others out there
I'll take a Giga or Asus any day of the week.

I hear ASRock is supposed to be a decent low priced board but I've
never used one.



>> That mb looks like it was put together by a cadre of homosexual
>> marketdroids drooling over the sales projections.
>>
>> The old computing adage of "garbage in garbage out" applies
>> to the hardware-OS interface as well.
>>
>> I need to remind you that GNU/Linux is a platform for professionals
>> and professional hardware. It doesn't like faggot junk. That queer
>> crap is made for MS Windows only.
>
> Except that you're lying. I've noticed that Linux supports cheap
> hardware beautifully but fails miserably with anything costing more than
> a $20 bill. For you to insult Gigabyte demonstrates your complete lack
> of knowledge about hardware.

The board vallor has is a good board and a favorite amongst hard core
gamers.
The reason Linux users like ancient, cheap hardware is because it has
a better chance of working with Linux.

Of course for common chipsets that are also used in servers most
likely running Linux, it's not a problem because it trickles down to
the desktop world.

But for multimedia stuff and other things like Thunderbolt 3 and so
forth, Linux is behind the 8-ball.

>> Don't ever use inboard sound or graphics. Get cards that plug in
>> and check if they are currently Linux compatible. Otherwise
>> you'll get what you deserve.
>
> On-board sound nowadays is as good as what cards used to offer before. A
> separate card is still better, especially nowadays, but it's unnecessary.

The big difference is in low latency provided by ASIO drivers.
Another difference is in quality converters and low noise audio output
sections.

In reality, an average person won't know the difference at all and the
onboard chipsets are actually quite good these days.

The sour grapes from the Linux users are piling up in this thread.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:21:52 AM2/28/16
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lol!
That's still a top question on the Linux blogs.
Why don't I hear any sound?
Did you try unmuting the mixer?
duh...

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:49:24 AM2/28/16
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I actually meant that Giga trades places with MSI for second place. I
don't believe I have ever seen Gigabyte rate better than an ASUS board
in the same category. Either way, I would definitely never feel
uncomfortable using a Gigabyte board. Regardless of what some idiotic
Linux advocate has to say (and they are used to being misinformed, lying
idiots), Gigabyte is excellent hardware and it's the software,
specifically the Linux software, which doesn't do its job.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 11:57:25 AM2/28/16
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No matter the board, there is a good chance that Linux will not be
able to fully utilize the advanced features thus turning the board
into a ho-hum basic board.

A good example of this is what vallor is experiencing.
Another one is the over clocking/tuning software that comes with the
typical board.
I never us it as I don't mess with over clocking but many people do
and the software makes it much easier and safer than playing around
with BIOS settings.
Last time I checked that type of software doesn't work with Linux.

DFS

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Feb 28, 2016, 1:04:51 PM2/28/16
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On 2/28/2016 7:32 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:


> I need to remind you that GNU/Linux is a platform for professionals
> and professional hardware. It doesn't like faggot junk. That queer
> crap is made for MS Windows only.


Windows: the favorite OS and platform for "GNU/Linux professionals" to
make a living with.

MS is doomed.



DFS

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Feb 28, 2016, 1:07:20 PM2/28/16
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On 2/28/2016 7:49 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo,
>>
>
> I'll say it again, that's your problem.
>
> Stay away from on-board audio. For my sound needs I continue to use
> the Audiophile 2496 card from M-Audio. This is a professional product
> and under Linux it performs ultimately.
>
> What more could you fscking possibly want? What? WHAT???!!!
>
> I approach sound and music from an intellectual perspective.

heh! What a fucking egghead knob you are.



> Therefore I do not require the current surround-sound, 3-D
> gimmicks that are flooding the market.
>
> Are you that fscking brain-dead to lust after that junk?
>
> That festering crap is only made to dazzle the MS Windows jughead.


You're an idiot. Surround sound makes games and movies feel more realistic.



> Be a real man.

Like you? Not a chance.




> Use Linux only.

Take your own advice, Windows programmer.



Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 1:08:44 PM2/28/16
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Absolutely. When Linux had trouble with my MSI GT72 laptop, the lying
Linux losers in here suggested that my hardware was shit. Meanwhile, the
MSI GT72 line of laptops is considered the best portable gaming machine
money can buy and offers the best performance with the highest quality
of hardware. I'm sure that idiots like vallor the Hutt would have
recommended some ugly hardware like something from System76 but I'd
rather NOT be embarrassed to show my machine in public and settle for
mediocre hardware produced by people who have no idea what they are
doing but sure love Linux.

> A good example of this is what vallor is experiencing.
> Another one is the over clocking/tuning software that comes with the
> typical board.
> I never us it as I don't mess with over clocking but many people do
> and the software makes it much easier and safer than playing around
> with BIOS settings.
> Last time I checked that type of software doesn't work with Linux.

I'm not one to overclock. Rather than buy less expensive hardware and
overclock it, I'd rather just buy the more expensive hardware. To me,
overclocking is like buying a shitty Honda Civic and tuning the engine
so that you get the same horsepower as a Porsche; you'll get the speed
but you're still sitting in a mediocre pile of metal impressing no one.
It's great for some but it's not my cup of tea.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 1:21:16 PM2/28/16
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Blame the hardware.
Blame the user.
Blame the software.
Blame the alignment of the moon and the stars.

Blame anything but Linux itself.

There is a thread in alt.os.linux.ubuntu where some Linux user is
asking about using fvwm with gnome-panel.
And this kind of stuff is typical in the Linux world.

Sure it's nice he can use something he is comfortable with and
customize it even further to suit his needs.
No problem there at all. It's actually a good thing.

However, where it starts to fail is the overall consensus that in 2016
with the gorgeous interfaces that OSX and Windows have, someone would
be interested in an antique like fvwm and further will try and tell
others how superior it is to alternatives.

One look and average Jane will run like hell from fvwm.

And one can extrapolate that same line of thinking to Linux programs,
hardware support and so forth.

Here is part of the post:

"I have used fvwm almost exclusively for the last 20 years. Used it
with my custom config that I modified from time to time.

I find it necessary to use gnome-panel inside fvwm, which always
worked great. I need that panel for menus, shortcuts, and, most
importantly, indicators. Those indicators are needed to switch
keyboard layouts, connect to networks, adjust sound level, and do a
few other critical things."

Really.
This guy is getting all excited about things that Windows and OSX have
been doing since the 1990s or earlier.


>> A good example of this is what vallor is experiencing.
>> Another one is the over clocking/tuning software that comes with the
>> typical board.
>> I never us it as I don't mess with over clocking but many people do
>> and the software makes it much easier and safer than playing around
>> with BIOS settings.
>> Last time I checked that type of software doesn't work with Linux.
>
> I'm not one to overclock. Rather than buy less expensive hardware and
> overclock it, I'd rather just buy the more expensive hardware. To me,
> overclocking is like buying a shitty Honda Civic and tuning the engine
> so that you get the same horsepower as a Porsche; you'll get the speed
> but you're still sitting in a mediocre pile of metal impressing no one.
> It's great for some but it's not my cup of tea.

Me either.
I buy the fastest processor for my needs and leave it alone.
I buy my cars with the largest / most powerful motor available at the
time. A 500 HP motor in a Civic is still a Civic not a Vette.
And I prefer to buy quality once rather than crap 3 times over.

DFS

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Feb 28, 2016, 1:23:42 PM2/28/16
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On 2/27/2016 8:55 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:


> Before you buy hardware, make sure it is compatible with Linux.
> You should have checked the alsa lists before you spent your money.
> I always do a bit of homework before I acquire a new mobo to determine
> if sound, video, and LAN will not cause problems with Linux.
> There is a lot of gimmicky junk out there that should be avoided.

It's called progress, innovation, creativity, etc.



> Now, the MSFT shills will jump all over this as a putative example
> of Linux inferiority. However, it is the vendors that are at fault
> for not releasing the specs for their gimmicky hardware.


It's ALWAYS someone else's fault in Linux la-la land.


"Byte Magazine was driven off the news stands because Microsoft refused
to allow ads featuring the Microsoft trademark in Byte.",
Rex Ballard
self-proclaimed "Visionary for the Linux Community"

flatfish+++

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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 13:23:28 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 2/27/2016 8:55 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>
>
>> Before you buy hardware, make sure it is compatible with Linux.
>> You should have checked the alsa lists before you spent your money.
>> I always do a bit of homework before I acquire a new mobo to determine
>> if sound, video, and LAN will not cause problems with Linux.
>> There is a lot of gimmicky junk out there that should be avoided.
>
> It's called progress, innovation, creativity, etc.

All words that scare the heck out of Linux advocates who are trapped
in the 1980's.
Like green screen Jeb for example.

>
>> Now, the MSFT shills will jump all over this as a putative example
>> of Linux inferiority. However, it is the vendors that are at fault
>> for not releasing the specs for their gimmicky hardware.
>
>
> It's ALWAYS someone else's fault in Linux la-la land.

Exactly.


>
> "Byte Magazine was driven off the news stands because Microsoft refused
> to allow ads featuring the Microsoft trademark in Byte.",
> Rex Ballard
> self-proclaimed "Visionary for the Linux Community"

What ever happened to her?
Has she been posting?
I always felt sorry for her because she seemed to be at war with her
inner self. I hope she finally got some help and sorted things out.

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 1:54:10 PM2/28/16
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Who in 2016 would want to use this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FVWM#/media/File:Debian_FVWM_Green.png

> Sure it's nice he can use something he is comfortable with and
> customize it even further to suit his needs.
> No problem there at all. It's actually a good thing.
>
> However, where it starts to fail is the overall consensus that in 2016
> with the gorgeous interfaces that OSX and Windows have, someone would
> be interested in an antique like fvwm and further will try and tell
> others how superior it is to alternatives.
>
> One look and average Jane will run like hell from fvwm.
>
> And one can extrapolate that same line of thinking to Linux programs,
> hardware support and so forth.
>
> Here is part of the post:
>
> "I have used fvwm almost exclusively for the last 20 years. Used it
> with my custom config that I modified from time to time.
>
> I find it necessary to use gnome-panel inside fvwm, which always
> worked great. I need that panel for menus, shortcuts, and, most
> importantly, indicators. Those indicators are needed to switch
> keyboard layouts, connect to networks, adjust sound level, and do a
> few other critical things."
>
> Really.
> This guy is getting all excited about things that Windows and OSX have
> been doing since the 1990s or earlier.

Well considering that he has been using fvwm _exclusively_ for twenty
years, he's completely unaware of what the competition offers. XP is
already a lot better than what he's gotten used to.

>>> A good example of this is what vallor is experiencing.
>>> Another one is the over clocking/tuning software that comes with the
>>> typical board.
>>> I never us it as I don't mess with over clocking but many people do
>>> and the software makes it much easier and safer than playing around
>>> with BIOS settings.
>>> Last time I checked that type of software doesn't work with Linux.
>>
>> I'm not one to overclock. Rather than buy less expensive hardware and
>> overclock it, I'd rather just buy the more expensive hardware. To me,
>> overclocking is like buying a shitty Honda Civic and tuning the engine
>> so that you get the same horsepower as a Porsche; you'll get the speed
>> but you're still sitting in a mediocre pile of metal impressing no one.
>> It's great for some but it's not my cup of tea.
>
> Me either.
> I buy the fastest processor for my needs and leave it alone.
> I buy my cars with the largest / most powerful motor available at the
> time. A 500 HP motor in a Civic is still a Civic not a Vette.
> And I prefer to buy quality once rather than crap 3 times over.

Unlike the lying Linux losers.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 2:10:57 PM2/28/16
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Exactly.

>> Sure it's nice he can use something he is comfortable with and
>> customize it even further to suit his needs.
>> No problem there at all. It's actually a good thing.
>>
>> However, where it starts to fail is the overall consensus that in 2016
>> with the gorgeous interfaces that OSX and Windows have, someone would
>> be interested in an antique like fvwm and further will try and tell
>> others how superior it is to alternatives.
>>
>> One look and average Jane will run like hell from fvwm.
>>
>> And one can extrapolate that same line of thinking to Linux programs,
>> hardware support and so forth.
>>
>> Here is part of the post:
>>
>> "I have used fvwm almost exclusively for the last 20 years. Used it
>> with my custom config that I modified from time to time.
>>
>> I find it necessary to use gnome-panel inside fvwm, which always
>> worked great. I need that panel for menus, shortcuts, and, most
>> importantly, indicators. Those indicators are needed to switch
>> keyboard layouts, connect to networks, adjust sound level, and do a
>> few other critical things."
>>
>> Really.
>> This guy is getting all excited about things that Windows and OSX have
>> been doing since the 1990s or earlier.
>
> Well considering that he has been using fvwm _exclusively_ for twenty
> years, he's completely unaware of what the competition offers. XP is
> already a lot better than what he's gotten used to.

I would venture to say that Desqview under DOS was better looking.
http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2013-05/1368837904.or.80597.png


>>>> A good example of this is what vallor is experiencing.
>>>> Another one is the over clocking/tuning software that comes with the
>>>> typical board.
>>>> I never us it as I don't mess with over clocking but many people do
>>>> and the software makes it much easier and safer than playing around
>>>> with BIOS settings.
>>>> Last time I checked that type of software doesn't work with Linux.
>>>
>>> I'm not one to overclock. Rather than buy less expensive hardware and
>>> overclock it, I'd rather just buy the more expensive hardware. To me,
>>> overclocking is like buying a shitty Honda Civic and tuning the engine
>>> so that you get the same horsepower as a Porsche; you'll get the speed
>>> but you're still sitting in a mediocre pile of metal impressing no one.
>>> It's great for some but it's not my cup of tea.
>>
>> Me either.
>> I buy the fastest processor for my needs and leave it alone.
>> I buy my cars with the largest / most powerful motor available at the
>> time. A 500 HP motor in a Civic is still a Civic not a Vette.
>> And I prefer to buy quality once rather than crap 3 times over.
>
> Unlike the lying Linux losers.

The problem is they aim low and then despite knowing their choice is
horrible, they continue forging on trying to justify it to anyone who
will listen instead of admitting that they could have chosen more
wisely.
And once they get entrenched in a group like COLA, they are
essentially trapped between a rock and a hard place. Most of them are
afraid of alienating the herd like Marti and greycloud amongst others
have done and they are unwilling to stand up to what the facts and
common sense shows which is Linux, as a desktop system, for whatever
reason just is not up to the level that Windows and OSX are currently
operating at.

And of course Linux has it's advantages over the other two.
1. Package management
2. Source code.
3. Freedom from corporate hooks.
4. Cost.
5. Ease of installation.
6. Configuration options are many.
...and so forth.

The problem is applications support, quality and consistency is the
Trump card (lol !).
The fact is Linux applications, for the most part, are just not as
professional as Windows or OSX applications are. And the ones that are
decent, like gimp for example are cross platform.
Screencasting is one example.
Digital audio workstation applications is another.
There are many more areas.

Slimer

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On 2016-02-28 1:43 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:

< snip >

>> "Byte Magazine was driven off the news stands because Microsoft refused
>> to allow ads featuring the Microsoft trademark in Byte.",
>> Rex Ballard
>> self-proclaimed "Visionary for the Linux Community"
>
> What ever happened to her?
> Has she been posting?
> I always felt sorry for her because she seemed to be at war with her
> inner self. I hope she finally got some help and sorted things out.

One day "she" went to masturbate and realized that she didn't have a
dick anymore. The most important source of entertainment lost because
"she" is an idiot.

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 2:23:05 PM2/28/16
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On 2016-02-28 2:10 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:

< snip >

>> Well considering that he has been using fvwm _exclusively_ for twenty
>> years, he's completely unaware of what the competition offers. XP is
>> already a lot better than what he's gotten used to.
>
> I would venture to say that Desqview under DOS was better looking.
> http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2013-05/1368837904.or.80597.png

Is that Desqview? I never used it myself.
I miss GreyCloud to be honest. He seems to have stopped posting entirely.

flatfish+++

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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:19:31 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-02-28 1:43 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>
> < snip >
>
>>> "Byte Magazine was driven off the news stands because Microsoft refused
>>> to allow ads featuring the Microsoft trademark in Byte.",
>>> Rex Ballard
>>> self-proclaimed "Visionary for the Linux Community"
>>
>> What ever happened to her?
>> Has she been posting?
>> I always felt sorry for her because she seemed to be at war with her
>> inner self. I hope she finally got some help and sorted things out.
>
> One day "she" went to masturbate and realized that she didn't have a
> dick anymore. The most important source of entertainment lost because
> "she" is an idiot.

You don't need a dick to masturbate :)
I always thought she was psychologically screwed up somehow.

flatfish+++

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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:23:01 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-02-28 2:10 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>
> < snip >
>
>>> Well considering that he has been using fvwm _exclusively_ for twenty
>>> years, he's completely unaware of what the competition offers. XP is
>>> already a lot better than what he's gotten used to.
>>
>> I would venture to say that Desqview under DOS was better looking.
>> http://www.betaarchive.com/imageupload/2013-05/1368837904.or.80597.png
>
> Is that Desqview? I never used it myself.

Yes it is.
Fine program during it's day.
He's a good person and he took a lot of crap from the hard core Linux
fans in COLA when he exposed their little bag of tricks like "works
for me, must be you" and so forth.
He claim clean and admitted he had mostly been lying all along just to
stay in favor with the Linux herd.

Of course they jumped all over him and tried to discredit his posts by
claiming it wasn't the real greycloud despite a cable type ISP
posting ip address from Oregon where he lives.

And then there is marti who went from being in favor with the Linux
crowd to being shunned and attacked by most just because he switched
to Windows for a while.

Same routine with marti.
They even tried to explain away his posts to Soundcloud where he made
mention, at the time, that he switched to Windows.

Truly amazing the length to which some Linux advocates will go in
order to discredit those who leave the herd.

tinus61

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Op 26-2-2016 om 00:58 schreef vallor:

> Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound on
> my spandy-new motherboard.
>
> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
> Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
> actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to be
> heard.
>
> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
> yet on this particular motherboard.
>
> Soon though -- very soon. :)
>
Check out QasMixer, from the default repositories (no PPA required)

https://www.google.nl/search?q=qasmixer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=xGbTVruxBeTi6ASNuoSoCw

Play around with the sliders.

It solved many sound problems on my main rig, alsamixer couldn't.

Good luck!

--
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|_|_|0| Computer enthusiast and Amateur Musician
|0|0|0| http://osg33x.blogspot.com
Microsoft Windows 8.1 with Windows 7 Desktop Shell

vallor

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:15:46 PM2/28/16
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 22:34:45 +0100, tinus61 wrote:

> Op 26-2-2016 om 00:58 schreef vallor:
>
>> Just so you know, I'm investigating a problem with the onboard sound on
>> my spandy-new motherboard.
>>
>> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo, with onboard Creative CA0132.
>> Everything is detected (including the integrated DSP), but when the
>> actual sound rubber meets the audio output road, there is nothing to be
>> heard.
>>
>> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
>> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite
>> working yet on this particular motherboard.
>>
>> Soon though -- very soon. :)
>>
> Check out QasMixer, from the default repositories (no PPA required)
>
> https://www.google.nl/search?
q=qasmixer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=xGbTVruxBeTi6ASNuoSoCw
>
> Play around with the sliders.
>
> It solved many sound problems on my main rig, alsamixer couldn't.
>
> Good luck!

Thanks for the suggestion, but doesn't help.

Also, there's nothing exposed by qasmixer that doesn't appear in
alsamixer.

--
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Kernel:4.5.0-rc5-sd Desktop:Xfce 4.12.2 Distro:Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:19:37 PM2/28/16
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Did you look into the kernel issue I posted?
It was specific to Arch (I think?) but might be relevant or at least
give a clue.

tinus61

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Op 27-2-2016 om 23:17 schreef DFS:

> On 2/27/2016 11:51 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have plenty of other audio devices I can use. It's just slightly
>>> annoying that the one with the "fun toy" DSP feature isn't quite working
>>> yet on this particular motherboard.
>>>
>>
>> What is the output of amixer? Please post the complete output.
>>
>> P.S. I love the "amixer" command. It's output is enough to
>> send chills down the spines of all those chicken-shit Microsoft
>> idiots.
>>
>> But amixer will tell you EVERYTHING about your soundcard.
>>
>> Where is the fscking MS Windows equivalent?

No self respecting musician wants a Windows equivalent of amixer. For
Linux QasMixer is a better option anyway.

> * click the Sound button in Windows Control Panel
>
> * Or go to Device Manager and right-click on the device and choose
> Properties

Agreed, I use *Audacity* for recording on both Linux and Windows. Yet on
Windows it's much easier to use.

The Linux edition shows me an *endless* and *confusing* list of input
devices.

The Windows edition only shows my *physical* inputs, which makes it more
productive to work with.

> * Or download the free of cost SiSoft Sandra Lite

Will give it a shot (whatever that is).

> You gibbering moron.

Who cares about useless info about their soundcards, printed by amixer?
It's not going to solve the OP's problem anyway.

Slimer

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"She" cut off her dick. That's all that needs to be said... though there
is reason to believe that heavy Linux use caused "her" brain to rot and
decide that was a good idea.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:54:17 PM2/28/16
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:51:13 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-02-28 2:25 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:19:31 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-02-28 1:43 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>
>>> < snip >
>>>
>>>>> "Byte Magazine was driven off the news stands because Microsoft refused
>>>>> to allow ads featuring the Microsoft trademark in Byte.",
>>>>> Rex Ballard
>>>>> self-proclaimed "Visionary for the Linux Community"
>>>>
>>>> What ever happened to her?
>>>> Has she been posting?
>>>> I always felt sorry for her because she seemed to be at war with her
>>>> inner self. I hope she finally got some help and sorted things out.
>>>
>>> One day "she" went to masturbate and realized that she didn't have a
>>> dick anymore. The most important source of entertainment lost because
>>> "she" is an idiot.
>>
>> You don't need a dick to masturbate :)
>> I always thought she was psychologically screwed up somehow.
>
> "She" cut off her dick. That's all that needs to be said... though there
> is reason to believe that heavy Linux use caused "her" brain to rot and
> decide that was a good idea.

The company she worked for didn't help. Slave drivers who focus on
everything you didn't do rather than what you did accomplish.
Nasty organization however they are VERY LGBT friendly.
My two friends retired this past December and are living the good life
instead of slaving away every day for a substandard salary.

vallor

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:54:46 PM2/28/16
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 23:29:57 +0100, tinus61 wrote:

> Who cares about useless info about their soundcards, printed by amixer?

Fabian does. I don't even use amixer.

> It's not going to solve the OP's problem anyway.

If you examine this thread, you will see that I wasn't looking for a
solution in this froup, I just thought it might be nice to have an actual
frank discussion about a real, actual sound problem in Linux, rather than
the myriad pretend problems posted by the wintrolls.

And as anyone can see looking on in this thread, those selfsame wintrolls
are unable to transcend their bitter-old-bitty natures -- as I said,
mostly jeering from kneebiters.

You even have J. Relf over there mischaracterizing the problem as "no
driver in Linux", when the problem is "malfunctioning driver in Linux on
extremely new motherboard".

Slimer

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:56:47 PM2/28/16
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Like Islam, Linux is a cult and users are treated well so long as they
have nothing but good things to say about their prophet (Wretched
Stallman) and their "god" Linus Torvalds. Like Islam, it commands you to
deceive the rest of the world about its merits, encourages you to cut
off body parts if you believe that they might lead you to do anti-cult
things (ie: Rex Ballard and his penis which might have allowed him to
become the first Linux user to lose his virginity and thus lose favour
with the others) and allows you to rape infidels Windows users (which
becomes difficult to do once that dick is cut off). Like Muslims, Linux
users emit a foul odour caused by their inability to follow even the
basic rules of hygiene and they are prohibited from eating pork... as it
would be cannibalism.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 5:56:52 PM2/28/16
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Nice attempt at rewriting history.

Chris Ahlstrom

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Feb 28, 2016, 6:52:25 PM2/28/16
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vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> And as anyone can see looking on in this thread, those selfsame wintrolls
> are unable to transcend their bitter-old-bitty natures -- as I said,
> mostly jeering from kneebiters.

That's why I don't generally expect anything good to come of posting here.
For the Wintrolls, positive posts about Linux are bait for trolling.
For the Wintrolls, negative posts about Linux are bait for trolling.
For the Wintrolls, any posts from a person who expresses like for Linux
or disdain for Windows are bait for trolling.

--
Your business will assume vast proportions.

vallor

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Feb 28, 2016, 7:07:13 PM2/28/16
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Certainly does seem they want to discourage any kind of discussion
whatsoever -- "jamming" the group, as it were.

(In irc, I'd call them "sappers", where they try to sap the life out of
the medium.)

I think I talked about that when I first started posting here -- there
doesn't seem to be anything that can be said that would change one iota
the blatherings of the "loyal opposition".

(Sig monster different because I'm posting from the slaptop.)

--
-v

"Are we to discuss philosophy?
I think we could easily get into an endless debate"

Husse Sept 28 2007

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Feb 28, 2016, 8:59:45 PM2/28/16
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You (ScottDoty) wrote:
> You even have J. Relf over there mischaracterizing the problem
> as "no driver in Linux", when the problem is 
> "malfunctioning driver in Linux on extremely new motherboard".

Right, the driver is as "bleeding edge" as the hardware is.
It will be fixed, eventuallly.
It was brave of you to mention it here.

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 10:53:50 PM2/28/16
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Over the years I have discovered that there are two distinct groups of
Linux users. Those who use Linux because they enjoy using Linux and
are willing to put up with it's idiosyncrasies and those who are
freedom fighters on a take no prisoners religious mission and where
they use Linux because they hate success, capitalism, corporations and
they tolerate Linux's idiosyncrasies even though it stifles their work
flow or computing experience.

Of course there is some cross breeding between the two groups but
that's the gist of it.

The first group are generally those people who truly love Linux and
enjoy using, learning and discussing Linux. These are the nice Linux
users.

The second group really don't love Linux but are on a mission and
Linux is the vehicle they use to further and "fund" if you will, that
mission.
These are in general the nasty, foul Linux users and in the scheme of
things they do more harm than good to Linux and GNU/FOSS.
They are the ones Linus calls "mentally ill".

flatfish+++

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Feb 28, 2016, 10:59:10 PM2/28/16
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Your use of terms like "froup, sappers, snubbery, slaptop, jamming the
group" and so forth does little to make you 1337.

BTW irc is on life support even more so than usenet is.
Other programs have long since replaced them
Maybe you have heard of them?
Twitter and Instagram as well as Facebook and others.

chrisv

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Feb 29, 2016, 9:22:45 AM2/29/16
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vallor wrote:

> mentally-ill troll wrote:
>>
>> Chicken.
>> I've been cordial to you despite your insults and condescnding behavior.
>
> Who does this guy think he's fooling?

He's just another dipshit troll. "Cordial" my ass.

"I'm a creep who is again calling myself 'flatfish'. I'm an insulting
prick and a pathological liar. I play grab-ass with some truly shitty
bastards, while attacking decent, reasonable people as 'loons' and
worse. But I've not unfairly attacked you, personally, lately.
Let's have a friendly discussion."

--
'A more equal distribution of usage would prove "choice" is valued the
way you cola idiots bleat about it' - DumFSck

flatfish+++

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Feb 29, 2016, 9:56:41 AM2/29/16
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On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:22:35 -0600, chrisv wrote:

> vallor wrote:
>
>> mentally-ill troll wrote:
>>>
>>> Chicken.
>>> I've been cordial to you despite your insults and condescnding behavior.
>>
>> Who does this guy think he's fooling?
>
> He's just another dipshit troll. "Cordial" my ass.
>
> "I'm a creep who is again calling myself 'flatfish'. I'm an insulting
> prick and a pathological liar. I play grab-ass with some truly shitty
> bastards, while attacking decent, reasonable people as 'loons' and
> worse. But I've not unfairly attacked you, personally, lately.
> Let's have a friendly discussion."

Yet neither you or vallor can point to me being anything but cordial
in that thread despite the baiting by vallor.

You just don't like the fact that I'm right and you and vallor are
wrong.

Neither of you seek the truth.
You just want a collection of drones posting "Linux is great, Windows
sucks" and " +1 " messages.

And that is a fact.

Slimer

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Feb 29, 2016, 11:28:50 AM2/29/16
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The proletariat and the Bolsheviks, those are the two Linux groups.

> Of course there is some cross breeding between the two groups but
> that's the gist of it.
>
> The first group are generally those people who truly love Linux and
> enjoy using, learning and discussing Linux. These are the nice Linux
> users.
>
> The second group really don't love Linux but are on a mission and
> Linux is the vehicle they use to further and "fund" if you will, that
> mission.
> These are in general the nasty, foul Linux users and in the scheme of
> things they do more harm than good to Linux and GNU/FOSS.
> They are the ones Linus calls "mentally ill".

They're all mentally ill, they're just not as severe.

flatfish+++

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Feb 29, 2016, 11:53:14 AM2/29/16
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I think they are living in a fantasy world where real life, facts,
actual data and what is accepted as the norm by others doesn't apply
to them.
IOW they are fooling themselves into some kind of frenzy.

vallor

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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:59:42 -0800, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
> You (ScottDoty) wrote:
>> You even have J. Relf over there mischaracterizing the problem as "no
>> driver in Linux", when the problem is "malfunctioning driver in Linux
>> on extremely new motherboard".
>
> Right, the driver is as "bleeding edge" as the hardware is.

Turns out it is 5 years old, and (re)written by Creative Technology Ltd.
in 2011.

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/
sound/pci/hda/patch_ca0132.c?id=refs/tags/v4.5-rc6


> It will be fixed, eventuallly.

I have no doubt of that.


> It was brave of you to mention it here.

It's a demonstration of honest commitment to frank discussions of Linux
-- discussing real problems, not pretend wintroll FUD.

Jeff-Relf.Me

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You (Scott Doty) have a device that's 5 years newer than its driver.

So my first comment was right: You need a driver.

Steve Carroll

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On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 2:44:33 AM UTC, flatfish+++ wrote:

> > It's the same old story the guy has been doing for decades: pretend to
> > "play nice" with Linux users, then unleash his/her/its nasty bullshit
> > that twists, prevaricates, and snits the truth.
>
> I have been nice.
> Please show where I haven't been cordial to you?

You sound exactly like Snit here.

Steve Carroll

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Mar 1, 2016, 7:18:04 PM3/1/16
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Snit is a Muslim.

DFS

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Mar 1, 2016, 8:51:00 PM3/1/16
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On 2/29/2016 9:22 AM, shitv wrote:


> 'A more equal distribution of usage would prove "choice" is valued the
> way you cola idiots bleat about it' - DumFSck



"The top distros have barely changed in YEARS",
shitv
explaining that the Linux "community" doesn't care about being able to
choose from 600+ substandard distros

DFS

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On 28 Feb 2016 12:32:30 GMT, Fabian Russell <f...@zen.info> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:58:02 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 mobo,
>>
>
> That's your problem.
>
> That mb looks like it was put together by a cadre of homosexual
> marketdroids drooling over the sales projections.
>
> The old computing adage of "garbage in garbage out" applies
> to the hardware-OS interface as well.
>
> I need to remind you that GNU/Linux is a platform for professionals
> and professional hardware. It doesn't like faggot junk. That queer
> crap is made for MS Windows only.
>
> Don't ever use inboard sound or graphics. Get cards that plug in
> and check if they are currently Linux compatible. Otherwise
> you'll get what you deserve.

Joel

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Lol.

--
Joel Crump
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