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Biden didn't have the balls to deal with China

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Craig

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Aug 3, 2022, 2:35:55 AM8/3/22
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So he sends, Nancy Pelosi?

He couldn't send Kamala?

Ha! Ha! Ha! Yeah, I know.

Siri Cruise

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Aug 3, 2022, 9:45:25 AM8/3/22
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In article <tcd504$sssn$1...@paganini.bofh.team>,
Craig <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So he sends, Nancy Pelosi?

A president can issue orders to Congress?

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Just Wondering

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Aug 3, 2022, 1:28:18 PM8/3/22
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On 8/3/2022 7:45 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Craig <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So he sends, Nancy Pelosi?
>
> A president can issue orders to Congress?
>
What business does Pelosi have going to Taiwan anyway?
It's not her job to implement foreign policy.
She's not a diplomat. She's not even diplomatic.
She can't speak on behalf of the government. She's
not part of a Congressional fact-finding mission.
The USA already has a good relationship with Taiwan.
The only thing she's actually accomplished is that
she's damaged US-China relations.

chrisv

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Aug 3, 2022, 2:33:15 PM8/3/22
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Just Wondering wrote:

>The only thing she's actually accomplished is that
>she's damaged US-China relations.

Fuck China.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 3, 2022, 2:49:39 PM8/3/22
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Didn't she go to get a tour of the chip factory she just bought stock
in?

-hh

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Aug 3, 2022, 2:51:58 PM8/3/22
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Oh, so then the same principles apply when a Republican does it?

Such as when Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich visited Taiwan in 1997?

"In Mr. Gingrich’s case, his Taiwan visit was combined with a trip to
mainland China. Chinese leaders initially objected to the Taiwan stop
but eventually tolerated it after Mr. Gingrich threatened to otherwise skip
Beijing on his itinerary, he said in a recent interview with Voice of America.

Mr. Gingrich said Beijing had one precondition for him—that he wouldn’t fly
directly to Taiwan from the Chinese mainland. After he wrapped up meetings
in Beijing and Shanghai, including with senior Chinese leaders, Mr. Gingrich
flew to Tokyo and then to Taipei.

In recent days, Mr. Gingrich has said Mrs. Pelosi should proceed with her plans
to visit Taiwan. In response, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian
last week condemned Mr. Gingrich’s record on Taiwan-related affairs, citing the
former House speaker as an example of “how some U.S. politicians would stoke
tensions in China-U.S. relations, turmoil across the Taiwan Strait and instability
in the world only to benefit themselves.”

The Chinese diplomat’s comments suggest that Beijing’s response to a visit by
Mrs. Pelosi would be different from Mr. Gingrich’s 25 years ago. Ambassador Zhang
blamed unnamed “external forces” for changing the situation around Taiwan for the
worse. Without prompt containment measures against them, he said, the situation
risked getting out of control. He said a Taiwan visit by Mrs. Pelosi would be “dangerous
and provocative,” and would undermine China-U.S. relations."

<https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-visit-china-us-tensions/card/china-tolerated-a-visit-to-taiwan-25-years-ago-it-now-sees-that-as-a-mistake--VNK7ekOOP0Coch9JrB03>

FWIW, diplomacy with China has been a pretty delicate thing for decades; one can
look back to the UK's departure from Hong Kong and what's transpired there since
for some examples. Overall, the question with China and Taiwan is essentially a
chess game where China needs to decide if they want to risk an escalation to actual
military conquest, as is being influenced by today's Russia-Ukraine conflict, as well as
other factors which basically revolve around optimization of the rate of change in
respective military capabilities, of the same general flavor for what motivated Russia
into their 'now or never' invasion of Ukraine.


-hh

Tucker

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Aug 3, 2022, 3:25:34 PM8/3/22
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chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in
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Right now would be the opportune time to "fuckover" China. Their
manufacturing is disrupted, logistics a complete disaster and the rest of
the world needs to learn how to get along without China doing their dirty
work on the cheap.

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 4, 2022, 5:37:16 PM8/4/22
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What do we do about the trillions of dollars we owe them?

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chrisv

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Aug 4, 2022, 6:23:15 PM8/4/22
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governo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tucker <f...@email.me> wrote:
>>
>> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fuck China.
>>
>>Right now would be the opportune time to "fuckover" China. Their
>>manufacturing is disrupted, logistics a complete disaster and the rest of
>>the world needs to learn how to get along without China doing their dirty
>>work on the cheap.
>
>What do we do about the trillions of dollars we owe them?

Reparations, for all the expensive bombs that we'll drop on them.

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governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 4, 2022, 11:17:18 PM8/4/22
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:23:11 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>
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>governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tucker <f...@email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fuck China.
>>>
>>>Right now would be the opportune time to "fuckover" China. Their
>>>manufacturing is disrupted, logistics a complete disaster and the rest of
>>>the world needs to learn how to get along without China doing their dirty
>>>work on the cheap.
>>
>>What do we do about the trillions of dollars we owe them?
>
>Reparations, for all the expensive bombs that we'll drop on them.

Why would we be dropping bombs on them?

Craven

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Aug 5, 2022, 2:09:27 AM8/5/22
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governo...@gmail.com wrote in
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> On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 19:25:31 -0000 (UTC), Tucker <f...@email.me> wrote:
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>>chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>news:sqflehlm8c25jbjof...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>
>>>>The only thing she's actually accomplished is that
>>>>she's damaged US-China relations.
>>>
>>> Fuck China.
>>
>>Right now would be the opportune time to "fuckover" China. Their
>>manufacturing is disrupted, logistics a complete disaster and the rest
>>of the world needs to learn how to get along without China doing their
>>dirty work on the cheap.
>
> What do we do about the trillions of dollars we owe them?

Let the Democrats pay for it with the trillion$ they've stolen from Social
Security. Take it from Nancy Pelosi's insider trading profits. Sell the
ammo the IRS has been buying. Take Warren Buffet's money. Sue them in
the international courts for releasing COVID on the world.

Send them all the blacks from the USA and Canada.

If China objects, fire some smallpox and polio rockets into Shanghai from
India.



Just Wondering

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Aug 5, 2022, 3:56:40 PM8/5/22
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On 8/5/2022 12:09 AM, Craven wrote:
Screw that. Just default on the loans and watch
China's economy implode.

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 5, 2022, 6:08:21 PM8/5/22
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Ours would be next when the rest of the world stops buying our debt.
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