What kind of obsessive hatred...

[Nobody]

... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?

[JEDIDIAH]

On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?

IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows them
to make money. I think our band of trolls are the only ones that actually
refer to them as a "Linux company".

...that just goes to show how ignorant of the real world these troll are.

[GreyCloud]

Yeah, it's a service company all right. And they are losing revenues.
Linux is the kiss of death to any company... even Google knows that.

--
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

[Nobody]

It only takes a trip to IBM's site to relieve their ignorance:

http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/?lnk=buwa

"What is Watson?

Cognitive computing systems understand natural language and are not
programmed, they learn."

While M$ plays around with tiles and start menus, and Crapple cranks out
miniature trash cans, IBM is busy inventing the future.

And to think Watson is just a part of what IBM is up to.

[Ezekiel]

"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
news:slrnn2o25...@nomad.mishnet...

> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>
> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows them
> to make money.


> I think our band of trolls are the only ones that actually
> refer to them as a "Linux company".

Nope. It's the "advocates" who first called IBM a Linux company. Any other
factually wrong claims that you want to make?

Linux company IBM has pulled out a $2bn lead over 4th rate mircorshaft in
just as many days.
<0Q30t.26404$zh5....@fx22.fr7>

[Ezekiel]

"Nobody" <nob...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:n0hfea$bpu$1...@news.albasani.net...

> On 10/24/2015 5:39 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every
>>> misfortune and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support
>>> Linux?
>>
>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows
>> them to make money.


>> I think our band of trolls are the only ones that
>> actually refer to them as a "Linux company".

If you're going to lie JED, then don't make claims that are so easily proven
to be wrong.

"Linux company IBM has pulled out a $2bn lead over
4th rate mircorshaft in just as many days."
<0Q30t.26404$zh5....@fx22.fr7>



>>

>> ...that just goes to show how ignorant of the real world these troll
>> are.
>
> It only takes a trip to IBM's site to relieve their ignorance:
>
> http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/?lnk=buwa
>
> "What is Watson?
>

Watson is a pie-in-the-sky project at IBM that doesn't work out in the real
world and is losing the company billions.

<quote>
IBM Struggles to Turn Watson Computer Into Big Business
Revenue Is Far From Company's Ambitious Targets

Three years after International Business Machines Corp. began trying to
turn its "Jeopardy"-winning computer into a big business, revenue from
Watson is far from the company's ambitious targets.

Watson is having more trouble solving real-life problems than "Jeopardy"
questions, according to a review of internal IBM documents and interviews
with Watson's first customers.

</quote>
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304887104579306881917668654

> While M$ plays around with tiles and start menus, and Crapple cranks out
> miniature trash cans, IBM is busy inventing the future.

While MS and Apple are making billions of dollars, IBM is laying off
employees, selling their business units and swirling down the toilet bowl.

> And to think Watson is just a part of what IBM is up to.

And to think, Watson is just a part of IBM that's not making any money.

--
"IBM is BIG. Apple is a flea on IBM's ass."

Some ignorant moron named "Nobody." Too stupid to realize that IBM is less
than 1/4th the size of Apple.
May 2, 2015
<mi2vk6$tld$1...@news.albasani.net>

IBM $1701.06B
AAPL $751.10B

[Charmed Tuna]

On 2015-10-24 6:27 PM, Nobody wrote:
> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?

IBM was responsible for creating the computer Hitler used to document
Jews <http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com>

IBM also released the PCJr which tried to give customers much less than
what they paid for: "IBM PCJr ($669 to $1,269)

A stripped down chip off the old block, 1983’s IBM PCJr (PC Junior)
would have been overpriced at any cost. At $1,269 with the absolutely
necessary floppy drive ($669 without), the PC Jr. was quite a bit
cheaper than full fledged IBM PCs of the time, but about on-par with the
Apple IIe and far more expensive than home-computing competitors like
the $200 Commodore 64 and $150 TI-99/4A.

Unfortunately, with its horribly-stiff chiclet keyboard, slow
performance, and a slew of compatibility issues that kept it from
running popular PC programs, the JR wasn’t worth the premium. That year,
I arrived at computer camp earlier than the other kids, just so I could
grab a seat in front of a real PC rather than this awful offspring."

In an effort to hold onto the proprietary nature of their PC and prevent
clones from being manufactured, IBM also produced the MicroChannel
Architecture. Its success would have allowed IBM to continue selling
ridiculously overpriced machines.

When MCA failed, IBM released the PS/1 which gave customers an obsolete
processor with no real ability to upgrade at the same price as
competitors priced their high-performance, upgradeable machines.

IBM released Deskstar hard drives which were prone to failure within a
ridiculous amount of time. There was a class action lawsuit against them
for it:
<http://www.cnet.com/news/ibm-travelstardeskstar-hard-drive-failure-class-action-suit/#!>

Unable to produce a profit due to their ridiculous incompetence, IBM
routinely lays off its workforce and impoverishes anyone who worked
there for even a short amount of time.
<http://www.bidnessetc.com/33231-international-business-machines-corp-ibm-to-layoff-over-100000-employees/>

To say the least, IBM deserves the pain.

--
Charmed Tuna

[Charmed Tuna]

It's like stating that a husband is revolutionizing his marriage by
improving his sexual technique whenever he sleeps with a prostitute.


--
Charmed Tuna

[DFS]

On 10/24/2015 10:40 PM, Nobody wrote:
> On 10/24/2015 5:39 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every
>>> misfortune and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support
>>> Linux?
>>
>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows
>> them to make money. I think our band of trolls are the only ones that
>> actually refer to them as a "Linux company".
>>
>> ...that just goes to show how ignorant of the real world these troll
>> are.
>
> It only takes a trip to IBM's site to relieve their ignorance:
>
> http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/?lnk=buwa
>
> "What is Watson?
>
> Cognitive computing systems understand natural language and are not
> programmed, they learn."

Not programmed? What a pile of BS.

"Watson for Oncology analyzes a patient’s medical information against a
vast array of data and expertise to provide evidence-based treatment
options."

No programming necessary! It's another Linux-based miracle! uh huh...

> While M$ plays around with tiles and start menus, and Crapple cranks out
> miniature trash cans, IBM is busy inventing the future.

NoBrains the fucking idiot is self-sustaining.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/

> And to think Watson is just a part of what IBM is up to.

The other thing they're up to is losing investors big money, fast.

[ronb]

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:27:14 -0500, Nobody wrote:

> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?

Exactly. Lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy iCultists and WinDrones are
miserable. If they had a life, they wouldn't be posting 24/7 in COLA.

--
Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists

[ronb]

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:39:29 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows them
> to make money. I think our band of trolls are the only ones that
> actually refer to them as a "Linux company".

You're right but the iCultists and WinDrones will never forgive IBM
because they were one of the first big corporations who seriously
promoted Linux. The lemon-sucking, bitter old biddies felt betrayed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ozaFbqg00

[Lloyd Parsons]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:02:36 +0000, ronb wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:27:14 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>
> Exactly. Lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy iCultists and WinDrones are
> miserable. If they had a life, they wouldn't be posting 24/7 in COLA.

Some more of no talking at all about Linux in any way, just some more of
his bitching about trolls he claims he doesn't read.




--
Lloyd

[Lloyd Parsons]

LOL! And we're seeing how well that is doing for them as revenues,
profits and number of employees keep shrinking.




--
Lloyd

[Charmed Tuna]

On 2015-10-25 1:02 PM, ronb wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:27:14 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>
> Exactly. Lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy iCultists and WinDrones are
> miserable. If they had a life, they wouldn't be posting 24/7 in COLA.

You mean the way /you/ do?


--
Charmed Tuna

[Snit]

On 10/25/15, 10:33 AM, in article n0j3l9$ig6$2...@dont-email.me, "Charmed Tuna"

LOL! Exactly. Others would not do as he does unless they were miserable...
in his own views. Hence he thinks HE is miserable.

It backs what I keep noting: the herd members pretty much universally feel
horrible about themselves.


--
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* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

[Snit]

On 10/25/15, 10:22 AM, in article d94hfd...@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd

The herd fears speaking of technology so they attack those who seek to.

[Snit]

On 10/25/15, 10:06 AM, in article n0j27e$95i$3...@dont-email.me, "ronb"

<ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:39:29 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows them
>> to make money. I think our band of trolls are the only ones that
>> actually refer to them as a "Linux company".
>
> You're right but the iCultists and WinDrones

Stop babbling about your imaginary friends.

[Snit]

On 10/25/15, 10:02 AM, in article n0j1vc$95i$2...@dont-email.me, "ronb"
<ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

> iCultists and WinDrones

Please stop babbling about your imaginary friends.

[Snit]

On 10/25/15, 7:17 AM, in article n0io5r$rif$4...@dont-email.me, "Charmed Tuna"

In pretty much every talk I saw on any show where they discussed what they
missed about the future in Back to the Future II, the biggie was the modern
smart phone, which was largely (though not fully) created by Apple. The
iPhone changed things greatly. It was the future nobody saw coming.

They also, in the movie, point to an old Mac and note it as a vintage 80s
computer. It was seen then as the best there was.

[Nobody]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 08:24:36 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Nobody" <nob...@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:n0hfea$bpu$1...@news.albasani.net...
>> On 10/24/2015 5:39 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>>>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>>>
>>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows them
>>> to make money.
>
>
>>> I think our band of trolls are the only ones that actually refer to
>>> them as a "Linux company".
>
> If you're going to lie JED, then don't make claims that are so easily
> proven to be wrong.
>
> "Linux company IBM has pulled out a $2bn lead over
> 4th rate mircorshaft in just as many days."
> <0Q30t.26404$zh5....@fx22.fr7>

In what way did your quote prove Jed lied about what he thinks?

>
>
>
>>> ...that just goes to show how ignorant of the real world these troll
>>> are.
>>
>> It only takes a trip to IBM's site to relieve their ignorance:
>>
>> http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/?lnk=buwa
>>
>> "What is Watson?
>>
>>
> Watson is a pie-in-the-sky project at IBM that doesn't work out in the
> real world and is losing the company billions.
>
> <quote>
> IBM Struggles to Turn Watson Computer Into Big Business Revenue Is Far
> From Company's Ambitious Targets
>
> Three years after International Business Machines Corp. began trying
> to turn its "Jeopardy"-winning computer into a big business, revenue
> from Watson is far from the company's ambitious targets.
>
> Watson is having more trouble solving real-life problems than "Jeopardy"
> questions, according to a review of internal IBM documents and
> interviews with Watson's first customers.
>
> </quote>
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304887104579306881917668654

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_%28computer%29

" In 2011, Watson competed on Jeopardy! against former winners Brad
Rutter and Ken Jennings.[3][6] Watson received the first place prize of
$1 million.[7]"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDBZnaoJVlk

"IBM Watson: Smartest Machine ever built - Documentary"

http://www.fastcompany.com/3001739/ibms-watson-learning-its-way-saving-
lives

"IBM'S WATSON IS LEARNING ITS WAY TO SAVING LIVES

A FEW YEARS AGO, IBM’S NEW COMPUTER WAS A GAME-PLAYING CURIOSITY. NOW
WATSON IS POISED TO CHANGE THE WAY HUMAN BEINGS MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT
MEDICINE, FINANCE, AND WORK."

>> While M$ plays around with tiles and start menus, and Crapple cranks
>> out miniature trash cans, IBM is busy inventing the future.
>
> While MS and Apple are making billions of dollars, IBM is laying off
> employees,

So are Apple and MS.

> selling their business units

All businesses buy and sell business units as they change over time.

> and swirling down the toilet
> bowl.

In your hate-filled dreams.

>
>> And to think Watson is just a part of what IBM is up to.
>
> And to think, Watson is just a part of IBM that's not making any money.

https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/45884.wss

“We are making significant progress in our transformation, continuing to
shift IBM’s business to higher value, and investing and positioning
ourselves for the longer term," said Ginni Rometty, IBM chairman,
president and chief executive officer.

"In 2014, we repositioned our hardware portfolio for higher value,
maintained a services backlog of $128 billion and achieved strong revenue
growth across cloud, analytics, mobile, social and security. Together
these strategic imperatives grew 16 percent in 2014 and now represent $25
billion and 27 percent of our revenue.”

That "analytics" word in there refers to Watson. I point it out because
I know there's no way you would get that on your own.

[Nobody]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 07:59:50 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> "JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
> news:slrnn2o25...@nomad.mishnet...
>> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>>
>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows
>> them
>> to make money.
>
>
>> I think our band of trolls are the only ones that actually refer to
>> them as a "Linux company".
>
> Nope. It's the "advocates" who first called IBM a Linux company. Any
> other factually wrong claims that you want to make?

"The advocates" is plural. Why do you only have one quote?

> Linux company IBM has pulled out a $2bn lead over 4th rate mircorshaft
> in just as many days.
> <0Q30t.26404$zh5....@fx22.fr7>

How does that prove it was "first?"

Doing a Google search on your message ID pulls up a post by yourself.

[GreyCloud]

IBM has been working on Watson since the 80s.
Nothing new either.

[GreyCloud]

And they are losing money out the breach plates too, you dimbulb.

[GreyCloud]

On 10/25/15 11:02, ronb wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:27:14 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>
> Exactly. Lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy iCultists and WinDrones are
> miserable. If they had a life, they wouldn't be posting 24/7 in COLA.
>

LIEnux sucks big lemons.

[Nobody]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:24:44 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

> On 10/24/15 20:40, Nobody wrote:
>> On 10/24/2015 5:39 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>>>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>>>
>>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows them
>>> to make money. I think our band of trolls are the only ones that
>>> actually refer to them as a "Linux company".
>>>
>>> ...that just goes to show how ignorant of the real world these troll
>>> are.
>>
>> It only takes a trip to IBM's site to relieve their ignorance:
>>
>> http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/?lnk=buwa
>>
>> "What is Watson?
>>
>> Cognitive computing systems understand natural language and are not
>> programmed, they learn."
>>
>> While M$ plays around with tiles and start menus, and Crapple cranks
>> out miniature trash cans, IBM is busy inventing the future.
>>
>> And to think Watson is just a part of what IBM is up to.
>>
>>
>>
> IBM has been working on Watson since the 80s.
> Nothing new either.

You've got to be "Lloyd." You "both" write the same kind of completely
ignorant bullshit. Are you twins or clones?

[Ezekiel]

"Nobody" <nob...@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:n0jl4u$sjl$4...@news.albasani.net...

> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 07:59:50 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
>> news:slrnn2o25...@nomad.mishnet...
>>> On 2015-10-24, Nobody <nob...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>>>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>>>
>>> IBM is a services company. They will support anything that allows
>>> them
>>> to make money.
>>
>>
>>> I think our band of trolls are the only ones that actually refer to
>>> them as a "Linux company".
>>
>> Nope. It's the "advocates" who first called IBM a Linux company. Any
>> other factually wrong claims that you want to make?
>
> "The advocates" is plural. Why do you only have one quote?
>

Since you're not even able to find the first post with the MsgId that I
posted, how would a 2nd MsgId that you're too stupid to find help?

>> Linux company IBM has pulled out a $2bn lead over 4th rate mircorshaft
>> in just as many days.
>> <0Q30t.26404$zh5....@fx22.fr7>
>
> How does that prove it was "first?"
>
> Doing a Google search on your message ID pulls up a post by yourself.

Only for people like you who are far too stupid to do a simple search
correctly:

<quote>
From: 7 <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com>
Subject: IBM pulls out a lead of $2bn from microshaft is just as many days!!
Message-ID: <0Q30t.26404$zh5....@fx22.fr7>

Linux company IBM has pulled out a $2bn lead over 4th rate mircorshaft in
just as many days.

</quote>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/xrOxrx_QRpo/-vpVzzpWxGAJ

[JEDIDIAH]

Chances are that every component of the PC you're typing your dreck
on is dependent upon IBM patents. Now these aren't just bogus software
patents but this also includes hardware patents too. Plus IBM also does
basic science research.

They have been doing this for decades.

The old school monpolies had more class.

[Charmed Tuna]

Graphics processing unit? Sound card? LED screen? Power supply?

Prove it.

> Now these aren't just bogus software
> patents but this also includes hardware patents too. Plus IBM also does
> basic science research.

Which hasn't prevented the company from becoming less significant with
each passing day. It also hasn't prevented the company from screwing
customers over the past thirty years.

> They have been doing this for decades.
>
> The old school monpolies had more class.

You say this despite having knowledge of the PCJr's existence, despite
knowing that IBM did everything in its power to squeeze as much money
out of customers all the while providing obsolete, barely-functional
hardware. I never forgot how much of a rip-off that IBM PS/1 I owned was
and I especially never forgot how little time it took for my IBM Desktop
HD to die.

--
Charmed Tuna

[GreyCloud]

I've had a slimed down version of Watson on win98 on an IBM PC.
Like I said, nothing awe inspiring about it.

[Lloyd Parsons]

You know we don't call 'nobody' 'no-brains' for nothing. He's gotten
really good at coming up with links to crap that is in the doldrums
trying to pass them off as something that is in active and progressing
developement.




--
Lloyd

[JEDIDIAH]

So? You say that as if I'm some sort of blithering fan boy (like you).

I'm the one that said that they are doing their best to be less
significant lately. You're late to the party.

>
>> They have been doing this for decades.
>>
>> The old school monpolies had more class.
>
> You say this despite having knowledge of the PCJr's existence, despite
> knowing that IBM did everything in its power to squeeze as much money

What part of "monopoly" did you not understand exactly?

I didn't say that they were choir boys.

I only said that they actually contributed something positive.

If not for them, and Xerox, and Bell Labs you would have nothing.

[deletia]

[Charmed Tuna]

Lie. You're free to prove it.

>>> They have been doing this for decades.
>>>
>>> The old school monpolies had more class.
>>
>> You say this despite having knowledge of the PCJr's existence, despite
>> knowing that IBM did everything in its power to squeeze as much money
>
> What part of "monopoly" did you not understand exactly?
>
> I didn't say that they were choir boys.
>
> I only said that they actually contributed something positive.
>
> If not for them, and Xerox, and Bell Labs you would have nothing.

Absolutely none of what IBM contributed was positive. The PC itself was
their contribution but it only ended up being so because third-parties
basically hacked it and provided clones. IBM would have preferred for it
not to be that way. Their MCA architecture was not a contribution as
they kept it to themselves. OS/2? They marketed that thing so well that
even THEY didn't use it on their desktop. So I wonder: what has IBM
_contributed_ that has/had any kind of worth?

--
Charmed Tuna

[Kelsey Bjarnason]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:02:36 +0000, ronb wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:27:14 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>> ... would cause a person to take immense pleasure in every misfortune
>> and downturn to befall IBM, simply because they support Linux?
>
> Exactly. Lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy iCultists and WinDrones are
> miserable. If they had a life, they wouldn't be posting 24/7 in COLA.

One of them complained because I took too long responding. It's not just
that they don't have lives, they get morally offended if anyone else does
have a life. :)

[Lloyd Parsons]

No evidence that any of you linux loons have a life has been provided.



--
Lloyd

[ronb]

On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 19:11:02 -0800, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

It doesn't surprise me. The control-freaks think the world revolves
around them.

[Snit]

On 11/1/15, 8:58 PM, in article n16n21$it2$3...@dont-email.me, "ronb"

Do you have anything other than insults? Why not try to talk about
technology? What about that scares you so much?