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[News] Microsoft Betrays Another Partner (Phoenix Technologies), Which Embraces Linux

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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 10, 2008, 10:57:35 PM3/10/08
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This is why I’ll always remain a Microsoft skeptic

,----[ Quote ]
| But the real reason for Microsoft’s capitulation became clear on March 7 via
| a new joint-status report in the Microsoft-Department of Justice case. It
| turns out BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies (a long-time Microsoft partner)
| filed a complaint with antitrust regulators about Microsoft’s virtualization
| restrictions.
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1256

Phoenix may now be turning to Linux. It looks ahead.


Related:

New Phoenix BIOS will run Linux apps when Windows fails

,----[ Quote ]
| The basic concept is that an embedded Linux OS will accompany the core system
| firmware or BIOS, allowing instant-on applications to be run from it at any
| time.  
`----

http://www.betanews.com/article/New_Phoenix_BIOS_will_run_Linux_apps_when_Windows_fails/1202928412


Phoenix HyperSpace: Quick-Boot Your Laptop

,----[ Quote ]
| Phoenix Technologies' new HyperSpace is an instant-on environment for
| laptops, letting users launch a browser or other apps with booting into the
| OS.  
|
| Today, Phoenix Technologies introduced a firmware product called HyperSpace,
| which allows PCs to run a number of applications separate from the operating
| system. What that means is that if you use a PC equipped with HyperSpace, you
| will be able to quick-boot your notebook into a secure Linux environment,
| where you can use Web browsers like FireFox and pre-loaded Web-aware apps
| like Google Earth, Picasa, and the like.    
|
| [...]
|
| Also, since HyperSpace is a Linux-based platform, Windows viruses won't
| affect it.
`----

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2211507,00.asp


Microsoft nonchalant about Phoenix assault on Windows

,----[ Quote ]
| BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies Ltd.'s plans to market a new application
| platform the company claims will solve a number of problems endemic to
| Microsoft's Windows platform might be taken as a provocative gesture at their
| longtime partner. But Redmond's immediate reaction was nonchalant.  
|
| On Monday, the Milpitas, Calif. software maker announced Hyperspace, a
| Linux-based virtualization platform that will let OEMs bundle cut-down
| versions of popular open-source software that end users will be able to
| access instantly, even without booting Windows.    
`----

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=software&articleId=9045662&taxonomyId=18&intsrc=kc_top
http://tinyurl.com/3depfj

Mark Kent

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Mar 11, 2008, 10:04:12 AM3/11/08
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:
> This is why I?ll always remain a Microsoft skeptic
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| But the real reason for Microsoft?s capitulation became clear on March 7 via
>| a new joint-status report in the Microsoft-Department of Justice case. It
>| turns out BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies (a long-time Microsoft partner)
>| filed a complaint with antitrust regulators about Microsoft?s virtualization
>| restrictions.
> `----
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1256
>
> Phoenix may now be turning to Linux. It looks ahead.
>

The divorce courts seem to be creaking at the seems with all the
ex-Microsoft partners looking for their alimony payments.

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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 11, 2008, 1:39:23 PM3/11/08
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____/ Mark Kent on Tuesday 11 March 2008 14:04 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:
>> This is why I?ll always remain a Microsoft skeptic
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| But the real reason for Microsoft?s capitulation became clear on March 7
>>| via a new joint-status report in the Microsoft-Department of Justice case.
>>| It turns out BIOS maker Phoenix Technologies (a long-time Microsoft
>>| partner) filed a complaint with antitrust regulators about Microsoft?s
>>| virtualization restrictions.
>> `----
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1256
>>
>> Phoenix may now be turning to Linux. It looks ahead.
>>
>
> The divorce courts seem to be creaking at the seems with all the
> ex-Microsoft partners looking for their alimony payments.

I read about this more carefully later thinking that not only could Microsoft's
hypervisor self-serving lies lead to antitrust action , but they also stifled
Phoenix's Linux ambitions.

Microsoft: writing laws (_and_ EULAs) to illegalise the #1 competitor.

Even Mary Jo Foley is looking away from Microsoft. Watch her headline...

Ziff Davis (ZDNet owner) went bankrupt and Microsoft loses its grip and
relevance. Might Mary wish to cover Linux news in years to come? ;-)

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Linonut

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Mar 11, 2008, 4:37:03 PM3/11/08
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* Roy Schestowitz peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Ziff Davis (ZDNet owner) went bankrupt and Microsoft loses its grip and
> relevance. Might Mary wish to cover Linux news in years to come? ;-)

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/

March 11th, 2008
Microsoft goes internal for new head of its app-platform business

. . . Gulati confirmed that she was taking over as Microsoft's
new app-platform head.

Gulati was previously Director, Developer and Platform Evangelism
Microsoft India.

"Developer and Platform Evangelism". Is this a church or a corporation?

Looks like Mary Jo's got a book out:

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-2-0-Plans-Relevant-Post-Gates/dp/0470191384/ref=sr_1_1/103-5143073-4533462?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191883162&sr=1-1

Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft Plans to Stay Relevant in the Post-Gates
Era (Hardcover)
by Mary Jo Foley (Author)

Availability: This title has not yet been released. You may order it
now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. Ships from and sold
by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

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-- Bill Gates, At the launch of MSX[3]

[H]omer

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Mar 11, 2008, 9:52:08 PM3/11/08
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Linonut wrote:

> . . . Gulati confirmed that she was taking over as Microsoft's new
> app-platform head.
>
> Gulati was previously Director, Developer and Platform Evangelism
> Microsoft India.
>
> "Developer and Platform Evangelism". Is this a church or a
> corporation?

I was more interested in the fact that Microsoft seems to be slowly
becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the country of India. Should we
expect see to the Vole's minions begging for alms on the streets of
Calcutta, whilst a turban-clad Sweaty takes his grease-gun up the Khyber
Pass, and Pearly plays with his snake?

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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 11, 2008, 10:42:10 PM3/11/08
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____/ Linonut on Tuesday 11 March 2008 20:37 : \____

The book is about Microsoft /having/ to evolve, which it hasn't done
successfully after years of trying (now it wants to devour Yahoo and go into
debt in the process).

Is it possible that CNET Networks bought ZDNet? I looked at the footer. Either
way, the old-age press (e.g. Ziff Davis) dies for the same reason proprietary
software suffers (yes, it does, despite overall market expansion). Information
and code are disseminated for free.

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Mark Kent

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Mar 12, 2008, 3:20:58 AM3/12/08
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[H]omer <sp...@uce.gov> espoused:

> Linonut wrote:
>
>> . . . Gulati confirmed that she was taking over as Microsoft's new
>> app-platform head.
>>
>> Gulati was previously Director, Developer and Platform Evangelism
>> Microsoft India.
>>
>> "Developer and Platform Evangelism". Is this a church or a
>> corporation?
>
> I was more interested in the fact that Microsoft seems to be slowly
> becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the country of India. Should we
> expect see to the Vole's minions begging for alms on the streets of
> Calcutta, whilst a turban-clad Sweaty takes his grease-gun up the Khyber
> Pass, and Pearly plays with his snake?
>

India is vast, with a vast population, like China. I think we can
expect to see both India and China becoming far more globally
influential in short order.

Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 12, 2008, 4:40:21 AM3/12/08
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____/ Mark Kent on Wednesday 12 March 2008 07:20 : \____

> [H]omer <sp...@uce.gov> espoused:
>> Linonut wrote:
>>
>>> . . . Gulati confirmed that she was taking over as Microsoft's new
>>> app-platform head.
>>>
>>> Gulati was previously Director, Developer and Platform Evangelism
>>> Microsoft India.
>>>
>>> "Developer and Platform Evangelism". Is this a church or a
>>> corporation?
>>
>> I was more interested in the fact that Microsoft seems to be slowly
>> becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the country of India. Should we
>> expect see to the Vole's minions begging for alms on the streets of
>> Calcutta, whilst a turban-clad Sweaty takes his grease-gun up the Khyber
>> Pass, and Pearly plays with his snake?
>>
>
> India is vast, with a vast population, like China. I think we can
> expect to see both India and China becoming far more globally
> influential in short order.

To be honest with you, I think it's only fair. There is nothing ethical about
imperialism.

Remember what the Bush skeptics say about the "small terrorists" and the "big
terrorists", who cannot identity themselves and scrutinise self misdeeds. It's
that same as the story about the 'pirate' in the dingy and the big colossal
boat filled with rich people... it all comes back to hypocrisy and
selfishness. But again, I'm drifting to off topic..

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Mark Kent

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Mar 12, 2008, 5:28:52 AM3/12/08
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:

> ____/ Mark Kent on Wednesday 12 March 2008 07:20 : \____
>
>> [H]omer <sp...@uce.gov> espoused:
>>> Linonut wrote:
>>>
>>>> . . . Gulati confirmed that she was taking over as Microsoft's new
>>>> app-platform head.
>>>>
>>>> Gulati was previously Director, Developer and Platform Evangelism
>>>> Microsoft India.
>>>>
>>>> "Developer and Platform Evangelism". Is this a church or a
>>>> corporation?
>>>
>>> I was more interested in the fact that Microsoft seems to be slowly
>>> becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the country of India. Should we
>>> expect see to the Vole's minions begging for alms on the streets of
>>> Calcutta, whilst a turban-clad Sweaty takes his grease-gun up the Khyber
>>> Pass, and Pearly plays with his snake?
>>>
>>
>> India is vast, with a vast population, like China. I think we can
>> expect to see both India and China becoming far more globally
>> influential in short order.
>
> To be honest with you, I think it's only fair. There is nothing ethical about
> imperialism.

No, although it's been a feature of our history for as far back as records
exist. A more enlightened approach would be nice, but the experiments so
far have shown that liberal democracy coupled with free-market capitalism
(as far as each are possible) offers a reasonable compromise.

It also depends on having an educated population.

>
> Remember what the Bush skeptics say about the "small terrorists" and the "big
> terrorists", who cannot identity themselves and scrutinise self misdeeds. It's
> that same as the story about the 'pirate' in the dingy and the big colossal
> boat filled with rich people... it all comes back to hypocrisy and
> selfishness. But again, I'm drifting to off topic..
>

When wealth becomes held in too few hands, the bloodshed seems to ensue.
It's a tricky thing, to allow people to benefit commensurately with
their skills and contribution, whilst not allowing those benefits to
become so unbalanced that the non-beneficiairies decide to do a little
"Robin Hood" work of their own.

Linonut

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Mar 12, 2008, 8:17:50 AM3/12/08
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* Mark Kent peremptorily fired off this memo:

> India is vast, with a vast population, like China. I think we can
> expect to see both India and China becoming far more globally
> influential in short order.

Certainly, their carbon footprints are growing!

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absolutely no taste, and what that means is -- I don't mean that in a small
way I mean that in a big way -- in the sense that they they don't think of
original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product.
-- Steve Jobs as quoted in the PBS documentary Triumph of the Nerds (1996)

Mark Kent

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:28:53 PM3/13/08
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Linonut <lin...@bollsouth.nut> espoused:

> * Mark Kent peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> India is vast, with a vast population, like China. I think we can
>> expect to see both India and China becoming far more globally
>> influential in short order.
>
> Certainly, their carbon footprints are growing!
>

Indeed they are, although they've a long way to go before they'll catch
up with the US and Australia on a per-capita basis.

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