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Lanny Scroggins
Jun 3, 2021, 6:43:45 PM6/3/21
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The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap
whore on a street corner.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/smoking-gun-fauci-lied-
millions-died-fauci-informed-hydroxychloroquine-worked-lied-public-
instead-despite-science-fauciemails/>
"SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED — Fauci Was Informed of
Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to Public Instead
Despite the Science #FauciEmails"
"It’s been over a year since the WHO declared the coronavirus a
pandemic after originally downplaying the threat. It is no secret
that both the disease and the response to combat it following this
SARS-CoV-2 outbreak in late 2019 have turned our world upside-down.
Mandates, lockdowns, and guidelines seem to change every time Dr.
Fauci opens his mouth. All of these unprecedented rules were put
into place, we were told, to slow down the spread of a disease that
today is linked to the death of over half a million Americans and 3.7
million global citizens in the last year.
You would think that researchers would have concentrated on
prophylactic and therapeutic solutions of this disease especially
since this disease is a death sentence for the elderly, the obese,
those with preexisting conditions. The coronavirus doctors have
forced children to avoid school, mask up, and get vaccinated. One
would think that after all this time there would be a consensus in
the hospitals, in the nursing homes, and in other treatment centers
on how to treat a Covid positive patient or resident. This is not
the case.
There still is no agreed-upon treatment plan for elderly patients who
catch coronavirus to assist in their recovery.
The CDC and Dr. Fauci ignored treatment plans for coronavirus
patients unless the person was under severe distress.
TRENDING: SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED -- Fauci Was
Informed of Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to
Public Instead Despite the Science #FauciEmails
Cardiologist and Professor of Medicine Peter McCullough testified in
Texas earlier this year. Dr. McCullough sees COVID patients and says
85% of COVID patients given multi-drug treatment plan recover from
the disease with complete immunity. McCullough added, “The pandemic
could have been over by now, he says, if those who tested positive
for covid had been immediately treated before they fell ill enough to
be hospitalized. He also says that thousands could have been, and
still could be saved if the treatment protocol he and other
physicians use were not suppressed.”
Dr. Fauci and the CDC and WHO suppressed this effective treatment
plan and others.
And hundreds of thousands of innocents died.
And now this…
The c19hcq.com website tracks all of the international studies on
hydroxychloroquine and its effects on the coronavirus.
There is now a new study and the results are SHOCKING!
— HCQ for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 245 studies
HCQ is not effective when used very late with high dosages over a
long period (RECOVERY/SOLIDARITY), effectiveness improves with
earlier usage and improved dosing. But early treatment consistently
shows positive effects. That’s the science.
The numbers are astounding!
** Hydroxychloroquine worked on COVID-19 last spring.
** Hydroxychloroquine worked on COVID-19 last fall.
** Hydroxychloroquine worked on COVID-19 last winter.
** Hydroxychloroquine works on COVID-19 today.
Dr. Fauci and the CDC banned HCQ as a treatment for coronavirus.
They lied about its effects.
They lied about its dangers.
TGP contributor Larry Johnson touched on this on Wednesday night and
took excerpts from Headline USA‘s reports on Dr. Fauci’s emails
regarding hydroxychloroquine.
But the e-mails also showed that Fauci was more in the loop than he
let on concerning some of the Trump administration’s proposed
treatment solutions.
He notoriously second-guessed then-President Donald Trump during a
press conference statement about the benefits of using
hydroxychloroquine.
Fauci refuted President Trump in a White House press conference on
March 25:
Although Fauci seemed taken aback and insisted that the “anecdotal”
claims had yet to be conclusively studied, a month earlier he had
been looped into an email to Pence on Feb. 29 in which a pair of
Oklahoma physicians extensively discussed their research on it.
Fauci also responded to a Feb. 24 inquiry that noted that China had
been reporting about its clinical studies with the drug.
“Is there any indication/data to substantiate this claim from China
(attached publication) that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine can
decrease COVID-19 infections and lung disease?” wrote Maryland
pharmacologist Philip Gatti.
Fauci’s passive reply echoed what he would later convey on the
national stage.
“There are no data in this brief report and so I have no way of
evaluating their claim,” he wrote dismissively.
“There are a lot of these types of claims going around,” he
continued. “I would love to see their data.”
Then in May Dr. Fauci told CNN that hydroxychloroquine was actually
“dangerous” and ineffective.
Dr. Fauci told CNN hydroxychloroquine was actually dangerous when
used as a prophylactic against coronavirus. Hydroxychloroquine had
been used safely for 65 years in millions of patients. And so the
message was crafted that the drug is safe for its other uses, but
dangerous when used for Covid-19.
This statement made headlines throughout the fake new media and it
was a complete lie.
After Fauci’s statements on hydroxychloroquine, the tech giants began
censoring any mention of the drug. The media mocked President Trump
and anyone who suggested the drug was safe and effective. Doctors
treating coronavirus patients were suspended from their social media
accounts.
And hundreds of thousands of people died.
It was all based on a lie perpetrated by Dr. Anthony Fauci.
What is strange is that Dr. Fauci cheered HCQ use for treating the
MERS coronavirus back in 2013. What changed?
When the history books are written Dr. Tony Fauci will go down as one
of the greatest mass murderers of our day.
He funded the research on coronavirus in the US. Then he funded it in
China after it was banned here. Then he downplayed the severity of
the disease. Then he lied about a successful treatment for the
dangerous man-made pathogen.
Fauci is a killer. Arrest Fauci.
Here are two of the dozens of previous TGP reports on HCQ and its
effectiveness.
"
whore on a street corner.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/smoking-gun-fauci-lied-
millions-died-fauci-informed-hydroxychloroquine-worked-lied-public-
instead-despite-science-fauciemails/>
"SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED — Fauci Was Informed of
Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to Public Instead
Despite the Science #FauciEmails"
"It’s been over a year since the WHO declared the coronavirus a
pandemic after originally downplaying the threat. It is no secret
that both the disease and the response to combat it following this
SARS-CoV-2 outbreak in late 2019 have turned our world upside-down.
Mandates, lockdowns, and guidelines seem to change every time Dr.
Fauci opens his mouth. All of these unprecedented rules were put
into place, we were told, to slow down the spread of a disease that
today is linked to the death of over half a million Americans and 3.7
million global citizens in the last year.
You would think that researchers would have concentrated on
prophylactic and therapeutic solutions of this disease especially
since this disease is a death sentence for the elderly, the obese,
those with preexisting conditions. The coronavirus doctors have
forced children to avoid school, mask up, and get vaccinated. One
would think that after all this time there would be a consensus in
the hospitals, in the nursing homes, and in other treatment centers
on how to treat a Covid positive patient or resident. This is not
the case.
There still is no agreed-upon treatment plan for elderly patients who
catch coronavirus to assist in their recovery.
The CDC and Dr. Fauci ignored treatment plans for coronavirus
patients unless the person was under severe distress.
TRENDING: SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED -- Fauci Was
Informed of Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to
Public Instead Despite the Science #FauciEmails
Cardiologist and Professor of Medicine Peter McCullough testified in
Texas earlier this year. Dr. McCullough sees COVID patients and says
85% of COVID patients given multi-drug treatment plan recover from
the disease with complete immunity. McCullough added, “The pandemic
could have been over by now, he says, if those who tested positive
for covid had been immediately treated before they fell ill enough to
be hospitalized. He also says that thousands could have been, and
still could be saved if the treatment protocol he and other
physicians use were not suppressed.”
Dr. Fauci and the CDC and WHO suppressed this effective treatment
plan and others.
And hundreds of thousands of innocents died.
And now this…
The c19hcq.com website tracks all of the international studies on
hydroxychloroquine and its effects on the coronavirus.
There is now a new study and the results are SHOCKING!
— HCQ for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 245 studies
HCQ is not effective when used very late with high dosages over a
long period (RECOVERY/SOLIDARITY), effectiveness improves with
earlier usage and improved dosing. But early treatment consistently
shows positive effects. That’s the science.
The numbers are astounding!
** Hydroxychloroquine worked on COVID-19 last spring.
** Hydroxychloroquine worked on COVID-19 last fall.
** Hydroxychloroquine worked on COVID-19 last winter.
** Hydroxychloroquine works on COVID-19 today.
Dr. Fauci and the CDC banned HCQ as a treatment for coronavirus.
They lied about its effects.
They lied about its dangers.
TGP contributor Larry Johnson touched on this on Wednesday night and
took excerpts from Headline USA‘s reports on Dr. Fauci’s emails
regarding hydroxychloroquine.
But the e-mails also showed that Fauci was more in the loop than he
let on concerning some of the Trump administration’s proposed
treatment solutions.
He notoriously second-guessed then-President Donald Trump during a
press conference statement about the benefits of using
hydroxychloroquine.
Fauci refuted President Trump in a White House press conference on
March 25:
Although Fauci seemed taken aback and insisted that the “anecdotal”
claims had yet to be conclusively studied, a month earlier he had
been looped into an email to Pence on Feb. 29 in which a pair of
Oklahoma physicians extensively discussed their research on it.
Fauci also responded to a Feb. 24 inquiry that noted that China had
been reporting about its clinical studies with the drug.
“Is there any indication/data to substantiate this claim from China
(attached publication) that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine can
decrease COVID-19 infections and lung disease?” wrote Maryland
pharmacologist Philip Gatti.
Fauci’s passive reply echoed what he would later convey on the
national stage.
“There are no data in this brief report and so I have no way of
evaluating their claim,” he wrote dismissively.
“There are a lot of these types of claims going around,” he
continued. “I would love to see their data.”
Then in May Dr. Fauci told CNN that hydroxychloroquine was actually
“dangerous” and ineffective.
Dr. Fauci told CNN hydroxychloroquine was actually dangerous when
used as a prophylactic against coronavirus. Hydroxychloroquine had
been used safely for 65 years in millions of patients. And so the
message was crafted that the drug is safe for its other uses, but
dangerous when used for Covid-19.
This statement made headlines throughout the fake new media and it
was a complete lie.
After Fauci’s statements on hydroxychloroquine, the tech giants began
censoring any mention of the drug. The media mocked President Trump
and anyone who suggested the drug was safe and effective. Doctors
treating coronavirus patients were suspended from their social media
accounts.
And hundreds of thousands of people died.
It was all based on a lie perpetrated by Dr. Anthony Fauci.
What is strange is that Dr. Fauci cheered HCQ use for treating the
MERS coronavirus back in 2013. What changed?
When the history books are written Dr. Tony Fauci will go down as one
of the greatest mass murderers of our day.
He funded the research on coronavirus in the US. Then he funded it in
China after it was banned here. Then he downplayed the severity of
the disease. Then he lied about a successful treatment for the
dangerous man-made pathogen.
Fauci is a killer. Arrest Fauci.
Here are two of the dozens of previous TGP reports on HCQ and its
effectiveness.
"
chrisv
Jun 3, 2021, 6:54:00 PM6/3/21
to
Lanny Scroggins wrote:
><https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/smoking-gun-fauci-lied-
>millions-died-fauci-informed-hydroxychloroquine-worked-lied-public-
>instead-despite-science-fauciemails/>
"Early reports from China and France were promising, suggesting that
patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19 improved more quickly when
given hydroxychloroquine.
However, in an article published in December 2020 in JAMA, researchers
reported that hydroxychloroquine did not result in any clinical
benefits for adults hospitalized with respiratory illness from
COVID-19, compared with placebo. The NIH treatment guidelines
recommend against the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19, in both
hospitalized and non-hospitalized patients."
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/treatments-for-covid-19
--
"almost all of the professional lawyers are part of the deep state."
- right-wing kook "anonlinuxuser"
><https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/smoking-gun-fauci-lied-
>millions-died-fauci-informed-hydroxychloroquine-worked-lied-public-
>instead-despite-science-fauciemails/>
"Early reports from China and France were promising, suggesting that
patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19 improved more quickly when
given hydroxychloroquine.
However, in an article published in December 2020 in JAMA, researchers
reported that hydroxychloroquine did not result in any clinical
benefits for adults hospitalized with respiratory illness from
COVID-19, compared with placebo. The NIH treatment guidelines
recommend against the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19, in both
hospitalized and non-hospitalized patients."
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/treatments-for-covid-19
--
"almost all of the professional lawyers are part of the deep state."
- right-wing kook "anonlinuxuser"
Rabid Roach
Jun 3, 2021, 7:21:25 PM6/3/21
to
On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap whore
> on a street corner.
< snip >
> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap whore
> on a street corner.
They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At this
point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill Gates and
Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting a better
idea of what happened.
I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
every last one of them get what they deserve.
--
Rabid Roach
Free Software Foundation member (Rabid)
openSUSE Tumbleweed on MSI GT72 2QD
pothead
Jun 3, 2021, 7:44:40 PM6/3/21
to
On 2021-06-03, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
>
>> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap whore
>> on a street corner.
>
>< snip >
>
> They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At this
> point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill Gates and
> Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting a better
> idea of what happened.
>
> I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
> every last one of them get what they deserve.
The whole thing is so obvious.
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
>
>> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap whore
>> on a street corner.
>
>< snip >
>
> They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At this
> point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill Gates and
> Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting a better
> idea of what happened.
>
> I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
> every last one of them get what they deserve.
The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
excuse of spreading the virus.
They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science.
Fauci was their man.
And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and
so forth is overwhelming.
Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
--
pothead
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Rabid Roach
Jun 3, 2021, 8:13:05 PM6/3/21
to
On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
> On 2021-06-03, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
>>
>>> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap
>>> whore on a street corner.
>>
>>< snip >
>>
>> They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At
>> this point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill
>> Gates and Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting
>> a better idea of what happened.
>>
>> I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
>> every last one of them get what they deserve.
>
> The whole thing is so obvious.
> The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
> So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
> excuse of spreading the virus.
> They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
> mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science. Fauci
> was their man.
And, somehow, Trump was too naive to figure out what was going on.
> On 2021-06-03, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
>>
>>> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap
>>> whore on a street corner.
>>
>>< snip >
>>
>> They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At
>> this point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill
>> Gates and Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting
>> a better idea of what happened.
>>
>> I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
>> every last one of them get what they deserve.
>
> The whole thing is so obvious.
> The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
> So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
> excuse of spreading the virus.
> They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
> mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science. Fauci
> was their man.
> And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
> lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
> down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
>
> So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
> shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
> evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and so
> forth is overwhelming.
>
> Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
get away without repercussions.
chrisv
Jun 3, 2021, 8:46:54 PM6/3/21
to
pothead wrote:
>The whole thing is so obvious.
In the deranged mind of a kook.
>The whole thing is so obvious.
>The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
>So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
>excuse of spreading the virus.
sense.
>They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
>mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science.
>Fauci was their man.
>And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
>lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
>down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
>So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
>shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
>evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and
>so forth is overwhelming.
pothead
Jun 3, 2021, 9:02:49 PM6/3/21
to
It's a complete double standard.
Take NY for example.
Cuomo the darling of the left MSM finally got caught in not only sexual
harassment suits but also extremely poor decisions resulting in at
least 10k uneeded deaths due to the nursing home scandal.
So you hear anything about this?
Of course not.
What do you hear about every day?
The Trump Organization being investigated by the NYS attorney general.
It's just so obvious how the Democrats get away with murder, literally.
Rabid Roach
Jun 3, 2021, 9:09:08 PM6/3/21
to
their crimes because it's virtuous to do so.
pothead
Jun 3, 2021, 9:14:09 PM6/3/21
to
Why not watch MSNBC's interview today with Fauci.
Watch how he dodges the questions.
Example: "We need to be less acuseatory against the Chinese".
Really?
Look at their actions.
Not their words.
Banning travel from Wuhan.
Cleaning out the lab.
Throwing journalists out of the country.
Making up one story after another.
Then look at the MSM supporting all of this and accusing Trump of
xenophobia for banning travel from China.
You can't be this ignorant.
Again, actions vs words.
As far as Trump is concerened, his relationship with Fauci and Birx was
always stressful. And Trump is a horrible judge of people. I've said
that before.
As far as being in office, Fauci has been in that position since 1984
so Trump didn't appoint him.
Trump should have fired him, but he didn't.
All along Fauci has been protecting his own ass.
In February 2020 he claimed the risk of COVID was minuscule.
Masks work. Masks don't work.Double masks work etc.
Wake up chrisv.
pothead
Jun 3, 2021, 9:22:32 PM6/3/21
to
They see Trump on TV and lets face it he looks, acts and speaks like a
buffoon. And people got tired of the turmoil around the Trump
administration. Now couple that with the MSM on the Trump attack 24x7
and it was too much for many uninformed people.
Then they see Biden who reads eloquent speeches off a teleprompter and
talks platitudes about uniting the country, we are all one, rah rah,
etc and they get sucked in by it.
The idiots like snit,Joel,chrisv that moron with the endless reams of
stats get sucked right in.
Snit
Jun 3, 2021, 10:49:07 PM6/3/21
to
On Jun 3, 2021 at 4:44:38 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
<slrnsbiqb5....@localhost.localdomain>:
> On 2021-06-03, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
>>
>>> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap whore
>>> on a street corner.
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>> They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At this
>> point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill Gates and
>> Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting a better
>> idea of what happened.
>>
>> I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
>> every last one of them get what they deserve.
>
> The whole thing is so obvious.
This is you building up to your failure to show evidence.
lot less dishonest than Trump.
> So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
> excuse of spreading the virus.
The left does not control the election laws... those that were changed for
COVID went through the courts, and I have not seen evidence that the greater
representation changed a single outcome.
> They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
> mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science.
> Fauci was their man.
The fact Trump refused to accept evidence and lied non-stop was a horrible
thing that did hurt his re-election efforts.
> And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
> lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
> down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
Fauci is far from perfect, but to pretend he is somehow dishonest as you
ignore Trump's nonstop lies shows extreme bias on your part.
> So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
> shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
> evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and
> so forth is overwhelming.
There is no such evidence. And it was Trump who said the Chinese were being
very cooperative.
> Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
The Senate blocked the investigation into the Jan 6 terrorist attack... would
likely have lead to other investigations such as why Trump knew and when in
terms of his incompetence dealign with the pandemic.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<slrnsbiqb5....@localhost.localdomain>:
> On 2021-06-03, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC), Lanny Scroggins wrote:
>>
>>> The darling of the left wing MSM is going down faster than a cheap whore
>>> on a street corner.
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>> They only sacrifice one man when they're looking to save others. At this
>> point, it seems as though they're going to willingly let Bill Gates and
>> Town Clown Fauci take the fall to prevent people from getting a better
>> idea of what happened.
>>
>> I don't mind both of them being tarred and feathered, but I'd rather
>> every last one of them get what they deserve.
>
> The whole thing is so obvious.
>
> The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
This is a direct lie on your part. He did win. Period. And he did so being a
> The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
lot less dishonest than Trump.
> So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
> excuse of spreading the virus.
COVID went through the courts, and I have not seen evidence that the greater
representation changed a single outcome.
> They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
> mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science.
> Fauci was their man.
thing that did hurt his re-election efforts.
> And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
> lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
> down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
ignore Trump's nonstop lies shows extreme bias on your part.
> So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
> shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
> evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and
> so forth is overwhelming.
very cooperative.
> Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
likely have lead to other investigations such as why Trump knew and when in
terms of his incompetence dealign with the pandemic.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Joel
Jun 3, 2021, 10:59:18 PM6/3/21
to
Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>He [Biden] did win. Period. And he did so being a
popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
would have heavy turnout, led to the throngs of citizens you saw
standing in line, masked for the pandemic, to give Trump
a failing grade.
It's exactly what was expected to happen and should happen in anything
claiming to be a democracy - the dictator-wannabe was ousted.
>The left does not control the election laws... those that were changed for
>COVID went through the courts, and I have not seen evidence that the greater
>representation changed a single outcome.
Trump's attorneys failed to have a coherent basis to challenge
any of the pandemic rule changes in any of the states. The officials
in those states, many of them Republican, didn't like being told
that they were failing to get an accurate count, even if it meant that
their own party lost the electoral votes of the state. The rules are
the rules.
--
Joel Crump
>He [Biden] did win. Period. And he did so being a
>lot less dishonest than Trump.
Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
would have heavy turnout, led to the throngs of citizens you saw
standing in line, masked for the pandemic, to give Trump
a failing grade.
It's exactly what was expected to happen and should happen in anything
claiming to be a democracy - the dictator-wannabe was ousted.
>The left does not control the election laws... those that were changed for
>COVID went through the courts, and I have not seen evidence that the greater
>representation changed a single outcome.
any of the pandemic rule changes in any of the states. The officials
in those states, many of them Republican, didn't like being told
that they were failing to get an accurate count, even if it meant that
their own party lost the electoral votes of the state. The rules are
the rules.
--
Joel Crump
chrisv
Jun 4, 2021, 7:14:18 AM6/4/21
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Joel wrote:
>Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
>popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
>7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
>and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
>would have heavy turnout
There was simply a higher population, also.
>Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
>popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
>7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
>and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
>would have heavy turnout
More than one right-winger has used the same idiotic argument, in
here. One wonders if they are really so fscking *stupid*, or if they
are just brain-damaged in some other way, to make such jackasses of
themselves.
--
"Biden can't get on to Air Force One because the Military won't let
him." - right-wing kook "anonlinuxuser", lying shamelessly
chrisv
Jun 4, 2021, 7:17:01 AM6/4/21
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pothead wrote:
>You really need to educate yourself using sources other than CNN etc.
> (snipped, unread)
>You really need to educate yourself using sources other than CNN etc.
You really need to stop repeating the same idiocy and lies.
For the ten millionth time, I don't watch CNN, asshole.
Sheesh!
--
"According to the mainstream and the news it serves, Republicans are
all racists as are all of their supporters." - "Slimer", lying
shamelessly
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 7:45:12 AM6/4/21
to
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 01:14:06 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
> On 2021-06-04, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>>The whole thing is so obvious.
>>
>> In the deranged mind of a kook.
>>
>>>The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
>>>So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
>>>excuse of spreading the virus.
>>
>> Rules facilitated voting in the midst of a pandemic. Only makes sense.
>>
>>>They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
>>>mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science. Fauci
>>>was their man.
>>
>> Trump put Fauci on his pedestal. Kook.
>>
>>>And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
>>>lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
>>>down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
>>
>> He had no such power and did no such thing. Liar.
>>
>>>So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
>>>shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
>>>evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and
>>>so forth is overwhelming.
>>
>> It does seem that he had a misguided releationship with the Wuhan lab.
>>
>>>Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
clownv calling for hearings... that he will denounce the moment he
> On 2021-06-04, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>>The whole thing is so obvious.
>>
>> In the deranged mind of a kook.
>>
>>>The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
>>>So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
>>>excuse of spreading the virus.
>>
>> Rules facilitated voting in the midst of a pandemic. Only makes sense.
>>
>>>They also needed a top scientist to push their "we follow the science"
>>>mantra and attack Trump for supposedly not following the science. Fauci
>>>was their man.
>>
>> Trump put Fauci on his pedestal. Kook.
>>
>>>And now that these emails are being released it's so obvious that Fauci
>>>lied, ignored evidence and acted like some kind of a kingmaker shutting
>>>down the country, destroying lives and literally destroying the USA.
>>
>> He had no such power and did no such thing. Liar.
>>
>>>So now Fauci is trying to cover his own ass. He's been all over the MSM
>>>shows today attempting damage control but it's not going to work. The
>>>evidence that he manipulated data, was directly involved in Wuhan and
>>>so forth is overwhelming.
>>
>> It does seem that he had a misguided releationship with the Wuhan lab.
>>
>>>Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
realizes that Communists like him are the ones being charged.
> You really need to educate yourself using sources other than CNN etc.
>
> Why not watch MSNBC's interview today with Fauci.
> Watch how he dodges the questions.
> Example: "We need to be less acuseatory against the Chinese".
>
> Really?
>
> Look at their actions.
> Not their words.
>
> Banning travel from Wuhan.
> Cleaning out the lab.
> Throwing journalists out of the country.
> Making up one story after another.
>
> Then look at the MSM supporting all of this and accusing Trump of
> xenophobia for banning travel from China.
remember very well how the Democrats and Nasty Pelosi demeaned the
President for wanting to take the Chink Flu seriously in the month of
January. They insisted that people should go to their respective
Chinatowns and celebrate the Chinese New Year, knowing full well that
those filthy people were going to propagate the bacteria. They later
claimed that he was the one not to take the virus seriously because
that's all Communists and their allies are able to do.
> You can't be this ignorant.
>
> Again, actions vs words.
>
> As far as Trump is concerened, his relationship with Fauci and Birx was
> always stressful. And Trump is a horrible judge of people. I've said
> that before.
>
> As far as being in office, Fauci has been in that position since 1984 so
> Trump didn't appoint him.
> Trump should have fired him, but he didn't.
> All along Fauci has been protecting his own ass.
> In February 2020 he claimed the risk of COVID was minuscule.
> Masks work. Masks don't work.Double masks work etc.
>
> Wake up chrisv.
and old dogs can't learn new tricks.
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 7:54:47 AM6/4/21
to
choose to do so. Nobody is asking them to sit in front of a feed of the
CNN or MSNBC propaganda all day; they choose to inject themselves with
that heroin on their own. Trump was raw and honest, and that's why I
liked him. What he wasn't though is loyal to his allies. It's quite
amazing how many people he was willing to throw under the bus to save
himself.
> Then they see Biden who reads eloquent speeches off a teleprompter and
> talks platitudes about uniting the country, we are all one, rah rah, etc
> and they get sucked in by it.
didn't write them and probably doesn't understand the majority of what
someone else wrote for him.
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 8:02:46 AM6/4/21
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On 2021-06-04, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
this and that.
More government, more control, higher taxes, more regulation.
They love it.
Personally if you watch the likes of MSM they are going full bore on
Jan 6th insurrection spots. I wonder if anyone is counting how many
times the word insurrection gets said each day by the likes of CNN and
MSNBC.
I say let the justice system deal with these idiots who stormed the
capital and sit back and watch the truth come out.
You don't hear anything about the Biden laptop, Cuomo killing over 10k
people due to his nursing home scandal, Cuomo sex assault cases and so
forth.
The press buries what doesn't fit their radical left wing agenda.
They spent 4 years with the Russia Hoax against Trump and it backfired
on them so they dropped it like a hot potato and moved on to the next
attack on Trump.
Then they basically explained away all the BLM Antifa riots and
destruction. Reporter Ali Velshi reporting from in front of a police
prescient in flames and saying "the protests are mostly peaceful" is a
classic example.
There are many others.
The media has far too much power but people are waking up, albeit very
slowly.
CNN and MSNBC ratings are in the toilet and circling the drain.
>> You really need to educate yourself using sources other than CNN etc.
>>
>> Why not watch MSNBC's interview today with Fauci.
>> Watch how he dodges the questions.
>> Example: "We need to be less acuseatory against the Chinese".
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Look at their actions.
>> Not their words.
>>
>> Banning travel from Wuhan.
>> Cleaning out the lab.
>> Throwing journalists out of the country.
>> Making up one story after another.
>>
>> Then look at the MSM supporting all of this and accusing Trump of
>> xenophobia for banning travel from China.
>
> Exactly. Those of us with an attention span longer than six seconds
> remember very well how the Democrats and Nasty Pelosi demeaned the
> President for wanting to take the Chink Flu seriously in the month of
> January. They insisted that people should go to their respective
> Chinatowns and celebrate the Chinese New Year, knowing full well that
> those filthy people were going to propagate the bacteria. They later
> claimed that he was the one not to take the virus seriously because
> that's all Communists and their allies are able to do.
PIGlosi is an elite phony who should have been retired a decade ago.
>> You can't be this ignorant.
>>
>> Again, actions vs words.
>>
>> As far as Trump is concerened, his relationship with Fauci and Birx was
>> always stressful. And Trump is a horrible judge of people. I've said
>> that before.
>>
>> As far as being in office, Fauci has been in that position since 1984 so
>> Trump didn't appoint him.
>> Trump should have fired him, but he didn't.
>> All along Fauci has been protecting his own ass.
>> In February 2020 he claimed the risk of COVID was minuscule.
>> Masks work. Masks don't work.Double masks work etc.
>>
>> Wake up chrisv.
>
> That last part is not going to happen. He's been a clown for this long
> and old dogs can't learn new tricks.
I suspect he has an anger management problem.
chrisv
Jun 4, 2021, 8:14:46 AM6/4/21
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Rabid Roach wrote:
>>> It does seem that he had a misguided releationship with the Wuhan lab.
>>>
>>>>Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
>
>clownv calling for hearings... that he will denounce the moment he
>realizes that Communists like him are the ones being charged.
"Slimer" unable to follow a thread, and lying his ass off.
>>> It does seem that he had a misguided releationship with the Wuhan lab.
>>>
>>>>Hearings need to start ASAP to get to the bottom of this.
>
>clownv calling for hearings... that he will denounce the moment he
>realizes that Communists like him are the ones being charged.
This guy has got *nothing* but lies, folks.
RonB likes him, though. Don't be surprised if that prick follows up
with a "Yep" or somesuch. Right-wingers love to hump each other.
--
"After all, much of how the GNU/Linux community works is very similar
and compatible to how Communism works" - "Slimer", lying shamelessly
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 8:44:58 AM6/4/21
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the rampant corruption they are themselves responsible for.
> Personally if you watch the likes of MSM they are going full bore on Jan
> 6th insurrection spots. I wonder if anyone is counting how many times
> the word insurrection gets said each day by the likes of CNN and MSNBC.
> I say let the justice system deal with these idiots who stormed the
> capital and sit back and watch the truth come out.
that is now torturing them and videos are now showing that... video that
the Operation Mockingbird media these Communists in this group rely on
continue to conveniently ignore.
> You don't hear anything about the Biden laptop, Cuomo killing over 10k
> people due to his nursing home scandal, Cuomo sex assault cases and so
> forth.
> The press buries what doesn't fit their radical left wing agenda.
something a crime if a person leaning right is responsible for it. Biden
and his son could be out in public with their dicks inside of 4 year-olds
and they would pretend not to have seen it.
> They spent 4 years with the Russia Hoax against Trump and it backfired
> on them so they dropped it like a hot potato and moved on to the next
> attack on Trump.
looking for more potential crimes. Meanwhile, Governor Homo in New York
has been accused of committing a few of them with tons of plaintiffs
coming forward but _nothing_ is getting done about it and he is not
resigning either.
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 9:19:16 AM6/4/21
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sports,commercials, etc.
Literally a 24x7 of radical liberal, leftist ideology being pushed on
the American public and they don't yet realize how dangerous this is
although some are waking up.
>> Then they see Biden who reads eloquent speeches off a teleprompter and
>> talks platitudes about uniting the country, we are all one, rah rah, etc
>> and they get sucked in by it.
>
> Eloquent speeches that he can't actually articulate. The guy clearly
> didn't write them and probably doesn't understand the majority of what
> someone else wrote for him.
He mumbles, fumbles and makes odd comments about 6yo girls crossing
their legs.
How anyone can defend this Biden perv is a mystery.
It's going to take a full economy collapse via inflation to get people
to admit he is a total and complete failure.
Hitting them in the wallet is the only way they will wake up.
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 9:36:19 AM6/4/21
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The Democrat party have a long, sordid history of corruption.
And it continues to this day.
>> Personally if you watch the likes of MSM they are going full bore on Jan
>> 6th insurrection spots. I wonder if anyone is counting how many times
>> the word insurrection gets said each day by the likes of CNN and MSNBC.
>
> It's 300 times a day every day for 365 * 300.
Just like the Russia Collusion phrase.
The key that they, the MSM are afraid of something is that they are
once again in lock step with each other.
>> I say let the justice system deal with these idiots who stormed the
>> capital and sit back and watch the truth come out.
>
> They didn't storm the Capitol; they were waved in by the law enforcement
> that is now torturing them and videos are now showing that... video that
> the Operation Mockingbird media these Communists in this group rely on
> continue to conveniently ignore.
Not that it matters because they will simply make it go away, the press
will support them in this, and move on to the next attack on
conservatives.
>> You don't hear anything about the Biden laptop, Cuomo killing over 10k
>> people due to his nursing home scandal, Cuomo sex assault cases and so
>> forth.
>> The press buries what doesn't fit their radical left wing agenda.
>
> It's not just the press; it's the FBI itself which only considers
> something a crime if a person leaning right is responsible for it. Biden
> and his son could be out in public with their dicks inside of 4 year-olds
> and they would pretend not to have seen it.
government.
Hunter Biden lied on a gun permit application.
This is a felony.
Why is he not being prosecuted?
It's the double standard at work.
>> They spent 4 years with the Russia Hoax against Trump and it backfired
>> on them so they dropped it like a hot potato and moved on to the next
>> attack on Trump.
>
> They looked for a crime for five years, found nothing so now they are
> looking for more potential crimes. Meanwhile, Governor Homo in New York
> has been accused of committing a few of them with tons of plaintiffs
> coming forward but _nothing_ is getting done about it and he is not
> resigning either.
chrisv
Jun 4, 2021, 9:43:39 AM6/4/21
to
pothead wrote:
> Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>>
>> They didn't storm the Capitol; they were waved in by the law enforcement
Lying piece of shit.
>I think the entire thing is going to backfire on them.
Kook. It's the Rupugs who killed the investigation.
What are they afraid of?
--
"[Right-wingers] didn't storm the Capitol" - "Slimer", lying
shamelessly
> Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>>
>> They didn't storm the Capitol; they were waved in by the law enforcement
>I think the entire thing is going to backfire on them.
What are they afraid of?
--
"[Right-wingers] didn't storm the Capitol" - "Slimer", lying
shamelessly
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 10:42:02 AM6/4/21
to
on Tik Tok and will subscribe to whatever leftism she is pushing if
there's even a chance that she might spread her legs for them in the
future.
>>> Then they see Biden who reads eloquent speeches off a teleprompter and
>>> talks platitudes about uniting the country, we are all one, rah rah,
>>> etc and they get sucked in by it.
>>
>> Eloquent speeches that he can't actually articulate. The guy clearly
>> didn't write them and probably doesn't understand the majority of what
>> someone else wrote for him.
>
> Exactly.
> He mumbles, fumbles and makes odd comments about 6yo girls crossing
> their legs.
> How anyone can defend this Biden perv is a mystery.
>
> It's going to take a full economy collapse via inflation to get people
> to admit he is a total and complete failure.
> Hitting them in the wallet is the only way they will wake up.
eating family members just to put something in their stomachs.
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 10:55:34 AM6/4/21
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country was going down the drain.
It was only after he left office that people would admit he was one of
the worst presidents ever.
Biden isn't going to last long before Kamala gets installed and then
the real fun will begin because she is a far left radical who at the
same time is a total incompetent puppet of AOC and the other Marxists.
Our only hope is that moderate Democrats see the obvious danger here
and refuse to go along. People like Manchin and Sinema among others.
The people are revolting against Woke, counter culture, race theory and
all of this multiple sex gender garbage so that will only escalate.
Parents are protesting against school boards to get this garbage
removed from the teaching curriculum.
BLM has a few wounds to lick after founders were discovered lining
their pockets with contributions. Coupled with people tired of seeing
their towns burned down and looted and they have worn out their welcome
I suspect.
chrisv
Jun 4, 2021, 10:59:11 AM6/4/21
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Rabid Roach wrote:
>The rest are still dazzled by some spic dancing to "Ok, Boomer"
>on Tik Tok
Notice the blatant racism, everyone? Slime had zero reason to use the
>The rest are still dazzled by some spic dancing to "Ok, Boomer"
>on Tik Tok
term "spic" to make his point. He just wanted to use it. He enjoys
being shitty. His goal is to attract other shitty bastards to his
cause.
RonB likes him...
--
"Preventing Muslims from entering the land, stabbing or running over
anyone they see and raping white woman is also racist." - "Slimer",
lying shamelessly
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 11:58:12 AM6/4/21
to
pedophile currently in the White House and only once they have eaten
their last-born and shat him out will they finally admit that things were
better under Trump. For now, they can't because Trump was *RACIST* and so
the only virtuous thing to do is to demonize him and hope that the negroes
destroying every metropolitan area, the media, the education system and
the rest come and rape their wives and enslave their children last.
> Biden isn't going to last long before Kamala gets installed and then the
> real fun will begin because she is a far left radical who at the same
> time is a total incompetent puppet of AOC and the other Marxists.
>
> Our only hope is that moderate Democrats see the obvious danger here and
> refuse to go along. People like Manchin and Sinema among others.
>
> The people are revolting against Woke, counter culture, race theory and
> all of this multiple sex gender garbage so that will only escalate.
> Parents are protesting against school boards to get this garbage removed
> from the teaching curriculum.
the teacher committee that is meant to serve them. They have given
themselves a ton of illegitimate power in a continued effort to push this
garbage down the youth's throats regardless of what anyone thinks, the
same way that they are currently telling kids older than 13 that they can
get the "vaccine" without parental permission. Parents are an obstacle
rather than the true guardians of the youth.
> BLM has a few wounds to lick after founders were discovered lining their
> pockets with contributions. Coupled with people tired of seeing their
> towns burned down and looted and they have worn out their welcome I
> suspect.
rather than have the corporations bend the knee to them. As it is, I've
created a long boycott list which includes every last company who gave
them money or even a friendly nod. Whether it be Coca-Cola or BMW, they
will never see my money again and no matter what kind of efforts they've
made to bury their support on the Internet, I have the list and they can
go eat themselves for all I care.
Joel
Jun 4, 2021, 12:03:45 PM6/4/21
to
chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
>>popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
>>7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
>>and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
>>would have heavy turnout
>
>There was simply a higher population, also.
>
>More than one right-winger has used the same idiotic argument, in
>here. One wonders if they are really so fscking *stupid*, or if they
>are just brain-damaged in some other way, to make such jackasses of
>themselves.
Right, the last few presidential elections have all demonstrated that
>>Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
>>popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
>>7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
>>and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
>>would have heavy turnout
>
>There was simply a higher population, also.
>
>More than one right-winger has used the same idiotic argument, in
>here. One wonders if they are really so fscking *stupid*, or if they
>are just brain-damaged in some other way, to make such jackasses of
>themselves.
the left has the numbers to win every time - including 2016, because
Hillary did win the popular vote by a meaningful amount. That doesn't
mean we *will* win every time, however, because the swing voters
matter, too. This is why neither side often fails to put up a
candidate for any major office in national and state government, you
never know when circumstances will lead to an unexpected win.
--
Joel Crump
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 12:22:38 PM6/4/21
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racist statements.
He gets a pass though where Trump's stupid statements are front page
news and for weeks.
>> Biden isn't going to last long before Kamala gets installed and then the
>> real fun will begin because she is a far left radical who at the same
>> time is a total incompetent puppet of AOC and the other Marxists.
>>
>> Our only hope is that moderate Democrats see the obvious danger here and
>> refuse to go along. People like Manchin and Sinema among others.
>>
>> The people are revolting against Woke, counter culture, race theory and
>> all of this multiple sex gender garbage so that will only escalate.
>> Parents are protesting against school boards to get this garbage removed
>> from the teaching curriculum.
>
> The problem is that the parents are often ignored by the school board and
> the teacher committee that is meant to serve them. They have given
> themselves a ton of illegitimate power in a continued effort to push this
> garbage down the youth's throats regardless of what anyone thinks, the
> same way that they are currently telling kids older than 13 that they can
> get the "vaccine" without parental permission. Parents are an obstacle
> rather than the true guardians of the youth.
revolted it was the kids who complained to their parents that they felt
very uncomfortable with the sex crap they were being taught. These were
teens and not elementary school age children.
The elementary age kids was yet another school with a similar though
much worse problem.
>> BLM has a few wounds to lick after founders were discovered lining their
>> pockets with contributions. Coupled with people tired of seeing their
>> towns burned down and looted and they have worn out their welcome I
>> suspect.
>
> BLM should have been deemed a terrorist organization a long time ago
> rather than have the corporations bend the knee to them. As it is, I've
> created a long boycott list which includes every last company who gave
> them money or even a friendly nod. Whether it be Coca-Cola or BMW, they
> will never see my money again and no matter what kind of efforts they've
> made to bury their support on the Internet, I have the list and they can
> go eat themselves for all I care.
He should have brought the troops into problem cities from day one,
rounded up the Marxists and locked them up on federal jail awaiting
trial.
He gave too much credence and trust to states that they would do the
right thing.
Huge mistake.
Snit
Jun 4, 2021, 12:56:17 PM6/4/21
to
On Jun 4, 2021 at 4:14:16 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
<bi2kbgl3vste01fe6...@4ax.com>:
> Joel wrote:
>
>> Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
>> popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
>> 7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
>> and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
>> would have heavy turnout
>
> There was simply a higher population, also.
>
> More than one right-winger has used the same idiotic argument, in
> here. One wonders if they are really so fscking *stupid*, or if they
> are just brain-damaged in some other way, to make such jackasses of
> themselves.
I really think they do believe the nonsense they push. I don't get how.
<bi2kbgl3vste01fe6...@4ax.com>:
> Joel wrote:
>
>> Trump shoots his own argument in the foot when he questions Biden's
>> popular vote margin. Both candidates broke records, but Biden got
>> 7 million more simply because the left outnumbers the right,
>> and Trump's terrible record, combined with our knowledge that his side
>> would have heavy turnout
>
> There was simply a higher population, also.
>
> More than one right-winger has used the same idiotic argument, in
> here. One wonders if they are really so fscking *stupid*, or if they
> are just brain-damaged in some other way, to make such jackasses of
> themselves.
Snit
Jun 4, 2021, 12:56:57 PM6/4/21
to
On Jun 4, 2021 at 6:43:35 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
<sbbkbg1fhbpjf8uqs...@4ax.com>:
> pothead wrote:
>
>> Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> They didn't storm the Capitol; they were waved in by the law enforcement
>
> Lying piece of shit.
>
>> I think the entire thing is going to backfire on them.
>
> Kook. It's the Rupugs who killed the investigation.
>
> What are they afraid of?
It was Antifa... but let's not investigate or hold them accountable.
Sigh.
Can they really be THAT stupid?
<sbbkbg1fhbpjf8uqs...@4ax.com>:
> pothead wrote:
>
>> Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> They didn't storm the Capitol; they were waved in by the law enforcement
>
> Lying piece of shit.
>
>> I think the entire thing is going to backfire on them.
>
> Kook. It's the Rupugs who killed the investigation.
>
> What are they afraid of?
Sigh.
Can they really be THAT stupid?
Snit
Jun 4, 2021, 1:07:26 PM6/4/21
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On Jun 4, 2021 at 9:03:41 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<iijkbgpma8h735qbc...@4ax.com>:
Imagine if the Democrats had put forward a more appealing candidate. It still
boggles the mind that BOTH parties ended up getting their least popular, least
electable candidates. Something is heavily wrong with our systems.
<iijkbgpma8h735qbc...@4ax.com>:
boggles the mind that BOTH parties ended up getting their least popular, least
electable candidates. Something is heavily wrong with our systems.
Joel
Jun 4, 2021, 1:34:00 PM6/4/21
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Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Imagine if the Democrats had put forward a more appealing candidate
>[in 2016]. It still boggles the mind that BOTH parties ended up
>Imagine if the Democrats had put forward a more appealing candidate
>getting their least popular, least electable candidates. Something is
>heavily wrong with our systems.
There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>heavily wrong with our systems.
He had the momentum. But the Clintons are very powerful. The mistake
of Trump, on the other hand, was borne out when he was removed at the
polls in 2020. It was a fairly disgraceful loss. I actually almost
understand him having to lie about fraud in the vote - although,
speaking of disgraceful, it also is such to dishonestly question the
will of the American people, when one happens to claim to represent
them.
The Republicans simply must not make the same mistake again. They
must find a candidate who can appeal to the swing voters. That's the
standard of acceptability, and it's also how he or she will get votes
and hopefully win. Not that I will be voting for him or her, but I
will be watching what happens, no matter who either party's candidates
are (i.e., I'm not entirely confident Biden will be able to run a
second time).
[Note: I do understand that Trump got 74 million popular votes, and
that is a big number, but the disgrace of his loss is not about the
numbers, it's about how there were so many people who were primarily
voting against him, rather than for his opponent.]
--
Joel Crump
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 1:43:03 PM6/4/21
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On 2021-06-04, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Imagine if the Democrats had put forward a more appealing candidate
>>[in 2016]. It still boggles the mind that BOTH parties ended up
>>getting their least popular, least electable candidates. Something is
>>heavily wrong with our systems.
>
>
> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
> He had the momentum. But the Clintons are very powerful. The mistake
> of Trump, on the other hand, was borne out when he was removed at the
> polls in 2020. It was a fairly disgraceful loss. I actually almost
> understand him having to lie about fraud in the vote - although,
> speaking of disgraceful, it also is such to dishonestly question the
> will of the American people, when one happens to claim to represent
> them.
Bernie could have beaten Trump in 2016 and also in 2020.
> Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Imagine if the Democrats had put forward a more appealing candidate
>>[in 2016]. It still boggles the mind that BOTH parties ended up
>>getting their least popular, least electable candidates. Something is
>>heavily wrong with our systems.
>
>
> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
> He had the momentum. But the Clintons are very powerful. The mistake
> of Trump, on the other hand, was borne out when he was removed at the
> polls in 2020. It was a fairly disgraceful loss. I actually almost
> understand him having to lie about fraud in the vote - although,
> speaking of disgraceful, it also is such to dishonestly question the
> will of the American people, when one happens to claim to represent
> them.
At least Bernie, unlike Biden, is honest and has been singing the same
song for many years, unlike Biden who is going from center left to far
left.
> The Republicans simply must not make the same mistake again. They
> must find a candidate who can appeal to the swing voters. That's the
> standard of acceptability, and it's also how he or she will get votes
> and hopefully win. Not that I will be voting for him or her, but I
> will be watching what happens, no matter who either party's candidates
> are (i.e., I'm not entirely confident Biden will be able to run a
> second time).
dementia. He's barely hanging on now.
It's quite obvious he is unfit to be president of the local kennel club
let alone the USA.
> [Note: I do understand that Trump got 74 million popular votes, and
> that is a big number, but the disgrace of his loss is not about the
> numbers, it's about how there were so many people who were primarily
> voting against him, rather than for his opponent.]
that people liked Trump as much as people hating Hillary. She is one
highly unlikable person.
chrisv
Jun 4, 2021, 2:01:49 PM6/4/21
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Joel wrote:
>There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
--
"GNU/Linux's place is in the trash can" - "Slimer"
Joel
Jun 4, 2021, 2:06:19 PM6/4/21
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chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>
>Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>
>I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
Yeah, Paul Ryan is a good person. Something tells me he doesn't
>>There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>
>Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>
>I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
entirely have the ambition (in a specific manner) to be the president,
though.
--
Joel Crump
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 6:01:33 PM6/4/21
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:22:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
< snipped for brevity >
>> And they will demand that all Americans support the illegitimate
>> pedophile currently in the White House and only once they have eaten
>> their last-born and shat him out will they finally admit that things
>> were better under Trump. For now, they can't because Trump was *RACIST*
>> and so the only virtuous thing to do is to demonize him and hope that
>> the negroes destroying every metropolitan area, the media, the
>> education system and the rest come and rape their wives and enslave
>> their children last.
>
> I don't believe Trump is a racist whereas Biden is on record with many
> racist statements.
> He gets a pass though where Trump's stupid statements are front page
> news and for weeks.
The worst part about Trump's "stupid statements" is that they were
perfectly reasonable statements before the media assholes decided to
remove the context and purposefully misinterpret the message à la Shit.
>> The problem is that the parents are often ignored by the school board
>> and the teacher committee that is meant to serve them. They have given
>> themselves a ton of illegitimate power in a continued effort to push
>> this garbage down the youth's throats regardless of what anyone thinks,
>> the same way that they are currently telling kids older than 13 that
>> they can get the "vaccine" without parental permission. Parents are an
>> obstacle rather than the true guardians of the youth.
>
> Ironically at one of the snooty private schools where the parents
> revolted it was the kids who complained to their parents that they felt
> very uncomfortable with the sex crap they were being taught. These were
> teens and not elementary school age children.
> The elementary age kids was yet another school with a similar though
> much worse problem.
I'm glad that the teens are revolting. A couple of years ago, at the very
beginning of my career, all of the school boards around here decided that
it was a brilliant decision to remove the position of designated
sexuality teacher and said that it up to all teachers, whether they be
trained for Mathematics, English or Phys. Ed, to incorporate sex in their
classrooms and teach the subject. The dumber ones did so and immediately
got in trouble for being inappropriate while the people who don't trust
easily, such as myself, quickly understood that it was a setup. The end
result is that the adolescents don't know a thing about erection,
penetration or STDs outside of whatever they stumbled on in their
father's bookmarks. Only know, after a few serious STD outbreaks, did
they finally decide that a designated sexuality teacher might be a good
idea.
>>> BLM has a few wounds to lick after founders were discovered lining
>>> their pockets with contributions. Coupled with people tired of seeing
>>> their towns burned down and looted and they have worn out their
>>> welcome I suspect.
>>
>> BLM should have been deemed a terrorist organization a long time ago
>> rather than have the corporations bend the knee to them. As it is, I've
>> created a long boycott list which includes every last company who gave
>> them money or even a friendly nod. Whether it be Coca-Cola or BMW, they
>> will never see my money again and no matter what kind of efforts
>> they've made to bury their support on the Internet, I have the list and
>> they can go eat themselves for all I care.
>
> Trump really missed the boat with that.
> He should have brought the troops into problem cities from day one,
> rounded up the Marxists and locked them up on federal jail awaiting
> trial.
>
> He gave too much credence and trust to states that they would do the
> right thing.
>
> Huge mistake.
Had he done so, he would have been labeled a tyrant and they would have
used that as confirmation that he was anti-democratic or whatever. In
reality, he was doomed either way because the media was going to demonize
him no matter what he did. However, those Communists would have deserved
every beating their skinny, effeminate asses received.
< snipped for brevity >
>> And they will demand that all Americans support the illegitimate
>> pedophile currently in the White House and only once they have eaten
>> their last-born and shat him out will they finally admit that things
>> were better under Trump. For now, they can't because Trump was *RACIST*
>> and so the only virtuous thing to do is to demonize him and hope that
>> the negroes destroying every metropolitan area, the media, the
>> education system and the rest come and rape their wives and enslave
>> their children last.
>
> I don't believe Trump is a racist whereas Biden is on record with many
> racist statements.
> He gets a pass though where Trump's stupid statements are front page
> news and for weeks.
perfectly reasonable statements before the media assholes decided to
remove the context and purposefully misinterpret the message à la Shit.
>> The problem is that the parents are often ignored by the school board
>> and the teacher committee that is meant to serve them. They have given
>> themselves a ton of illegitimate power in a continued effort to push
>> this garbage down the youth's throats regardless of what anyone thinks,
>> the same way that they are currently telling kids older than 13 that
>> they can get the "vaccine" without parental permission. Parents are an
>> obstacle rather than the true guardians of the youth.
>
> Ironically at one of the snooty private schools where the parents
> revolted it was the kids who complained to their parents that they felt
> very uncomfortable with the sex crap they were being taught. These were
> teens and not elementary school age children.
> The elementary age kids was yet another school with a similar though
> much worse problem.
beginning of my career, all of the school boards around here decided that
it was a brilliant decision to remove the position of designated
sexuality teacher and said that it up to all teachers, whether they be
trained for Mathematics, English or Phys. Ed, to incorporate sex in their
classrooms and teach the subject. The dumber ones did so and immediately
got in trouble for being inappropriate while the people who don't trust
easily, such as myself, quickly understood that it was a setup. The end
result is that the adolescents don't know a thing about erection,
penetration or STDs outside of whatever they stumbled on in their
father's bookmarks. Only know, after a few serious STD outbreaks, did
they finally decide that a designated sexuality teacher might be a good
idea.
>>> BLM has a few wounds to lick after founders were discovered lining
>>> their pockets with contributions. Coupled with people tired of seeing
>>> their towns burned down and looted and they have worn out their
>>> welcome I suspect.
>>
>> BLM should have been deemed a terrorist organization a long time ago
>> rather than have the corporations bend the knee to them. As it is, I've
>> created a long boycott list which includes every last company who gave
>> them money or even a friendly nod. Whether it be Coca-Cola or BMW, they
>> will never see my money again and no matter what kind of efforts
>> they've made to bury their support on the Internet, I have the list and
>> they can go eat themselves for all I care.
>
> Trump really missed the boat with that.
> He should have brought the troops into problem cities from day one,
> rounded up the Marxists and locked them up on federal jail awaiting
> trial.
>
> He gave too much credence and trust to states that they would do the
> right thing.
>
> Huge mistake.
used that as confirmation that he was anti-democratic or whatever. In
reality, he was doomed either way because the media was going to demonize
him no matter what he did. However, those Communists would have deserved
every beating their skinny, effeminate asses received.
pothead
Jun 4, 2021, 6:42:06 PM6/4/21
to
On 2021-06-04, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:22:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
>
>< snipped for brevity >
>
>>> And they will demand that all Americans support the illegitimate
>>> pedophile currently in the White House and only once they have eaten
>>> their last-born and shat him out will they finally admit that things
>>> were better under Trump. For now, they can't because Trump was *RACIST*
>>> and so the only virtuous thing to do is to demonize him and hope that
>>> the negroes destroying every metropolitan area, the media, the
>>> education system and the rest come and rape their wives and enslave
>>> their children last.
>>
>> I don't believe Trump is a racist whereas Biden is on record with many
>> racist statements.
>> He gets a pass though where Trump's stupid statements are front page
>> news and for weeks.
>
> The worst part about Trump's "stupid statements" is that they were
> perfectly reasonable statements before the media assholes decided to
> remove the context and purposefully misinterpret the message à la Shit.
Some wee, some weren't.
>
>< snipped for brevity >
>
>>> And they will demand that all Americans support the illegitimate
>>> pedophile currently in the White House and only once they have eaten
>>> their last-born and shat him out will they finally admit that things
>>> were better under Trump. For now, they can't because Trump was *RACIST*
>>> and so the only virtuous thing to do is to demonize him and hope that
>>> the negroes destroying every metropolitan area, the media, the
>>> education system and the rest come and rape their wives and enslave
>>> their children last.
>>
>> I don't believe Trump is a racist whereas Biden is on record with many
>> racist statements.
>> He gets a pass though where Trump's stupid statements are front page
>> news and for weeks.
>
> The worst part about Trump's "stupid statements" is that they were
> perfectly reasonable statements before the media assholes decided to
> remove the context and purposefully misinterpret the message à la Shit.
But Trump isn't an oiled up politician and he doesn't know how to use
the buzzwords that say a PIGlosi uses.
Sadly he is also a very, very poor judge of character which does
surprise me.
it totally.
Hell, that's how I learned back in the early 70's. Along with awkward
moments in the backseat of a car.
They showed movies of STD on penis and vagina and it scared the shit
out of me.
Almost as bad as driver education where they showed movies of
decapitated bodies from car crashes.
I kid you not!
>>>> BLM has a few wounds to lick after founders were discovered lining
>>>> their pockets with contributions. Coupled with people tired of seeing
>>>> their towns burned down and looted and they have worn out their
>>>> welcome I suspect.
>>>
>>> BLM should have been deemed a terrorist organization a long time ago
>>> rather than have the corporations bend the knee to them. As it is, I've
>>> created a long boycott list which includes every last company who gave
>>> them money or even a friendly nod. Whether it be Coca-Cola or BMW, they
>>> will never see my money again and no matter what kind of efforts
>>> they've made to bury their support on the Internet, I have the list and
>>> they can go eat themselves for all I care.
>>
>> Trump really missed the boat with that.
>> He should have brought the troops into problem cities from day one,
>> rounded up the Marxists and locked them up on federal jail awaiting
>> trial.
>>
>> He gave too much credence and trust to states that they would do the
>> right thing.
>>
>> Huge mistake.
>
> Had he done so, he would have been labeled a tyrant and they would have
> used that as confirmation that he was anti-democratic or whatever. In
> reality, he was doomed either way because the media was going to demonize
> him no matter what he did. However, those Communists would have deserved
> every beating their skinny, effeminate asses received.
Just like being called a xenophobe when he stopped flights to USA from
China.
And Fauci criticized Trump as well.
Trump could not win with the media and he knew it so he attacked them
back just as hard as they attacked him.
That was the only recourse he had.
Rabid Roach
Jun 4, 2021, 8:18:13 PM6/4/21
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things only in the appropriate way that is expected of politicians, he
wouldn't have gotten the votes to put him in votes in the first place.
His raw approach is what got him so much support.
school who need the world to adapt to the kind of pansies they are. Back
then, those precious little daisies were silenced and the stronger
elements of society thrived as they should. Those delicate little flowers
might eventually get their revenge by becoming rich or marrying a model
or not but at least they got the motivation to become successful from
being the high school joke. Now, those gentle butterflies and their hippy
parents get to decide what happens in the school and the stronger
elements of society are suppressed to a point where they become suicidal.
That is part of why society is crumbling.
RonB
Jun 4, 2021, 8:37:46 PM6/4/21
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Clinton.
and half the school goes to "grief counseling" even though most wouldn't
know the kid who got killed in a police line-up. It's insane how chickenshit
this nation has become. When I was in high school, a kid got killed in an
auto accident (our school had less than 70 high school students). A few kids
who were close to the one who died were upset, but there was no grief
counseling. Most of us in a school didn't even know him and we didn't
pretend like it was the end of the world — though we felt bad for his
friends. Life (and death) happens.
--
Gates couldn't get viruses out of his own OS for
30 years — now he wants to rewrite our DNA
-----------------
Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life.
—President Trump
rbowman
Jun 4, 2021, 10:36:03 PM6/4/21
to
On 06/04/2021 12:01 PM, chrisv wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>
>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>
> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>
> I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
>
Ryan? I remember that little weasel getting up with a new binder for his
> Joel wrote:
>
>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>
> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>
> I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
>
tired ideas every chance he got.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Usually_Begins_with_Ayn_Rand
Snit
Jun 4, 2021, 11:37:07 PM6/4/21
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On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
<srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
> Joel wrote:
>
>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>
> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for what
he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and he
would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
> I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
--
<srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
> Joel wrote:
>
>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>
> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and he
would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
> I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
--
-hh
Jun 5, 2021, 7:20:17 AM6/5/21
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On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:44:40 PM UTC-4, pothead wrote:
>
> The whole thing is so obvious.
> The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
> So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
> excuse of spreading the virus.
Amazing how 'softening' was done by Republicans in Republican majority States too, eh?
>
> The whole thing is so obvious.
> The left knew Biden couldn't win at least not honestly.
> So they used COVID to soften the election laws last minute under the
> excuse of spreading the virus.
-hh
Rabid Roach
Jun 5, 2021, 10:56:51 AM6/5/21
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that she's an awful cow. It's a talent to be that detestable. She would
have done great as a heel in professional wrestling.
>> Back then, they weren't worried about the sensitive little shits in
>> high school who need the world to adapt to the kind of pansies they
>> are. Back then, those precious little daisies were silenced and the
>> stronger elements of society thrived as they should. Those delicate
>> little flowers might eventually get their revenge by becoming rich or
>> marrying a model or not but at least they got the motivation to become
>> successful from being the high school joke. Now, those gentle
>> butterflies and their hippy parents get to decide what happens in the
>> school and the stronger elements of society are suppressed to a point
>> where they become suicidal.
>> That is part of why society is crumbling.
>
> A kid dies in an auto accident now (in a high school of say 2,000
> students) and half the school goes to "grief counseling" even though
> most wouldn't know the kid who got killed in a police line-up. It's
> insane how chickenshit this nation has become. When I was in high
> school, a kid got killed in an auto accident (our school had less than
> 70 high school students). A few kids who were close to the one who died
> were upset, but there was no grief counseling. Most of us in a school
> didn't even know him and we didn't pretend like it was the end of the
> world — though we felt bad for his friends. Life (and death) happens.
the street at a boulevard while it was raining and got killed by a man
who clearly didn't see her and ran her over. Two of my students knew her
even though they never hung out with her. At the beginning, they thought
that it was sad and were a little emotional but quickly got over it
until, a week later, one of them felt suddenly felt something
coincidentally as I was giving the class an exam. I told her to meet me
at the principal's office because she was milking it and I want
repercussions.
RonB
Jun 5, 2021, 12:12:15 PM6/5/21
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On 2021-06-05, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
> On 06/04/2021 12:01 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>
>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>
>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>>
>> I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
As a Democrat?
> On 06/04/2021 12:01 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>
>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>
>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>>
>> I'd love to see Paul Ryan run.
> Ryan? I remember that little weasel getting up with a new binder for his
> tired ideas every chance he got.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Usually_Begins_with_Ayn_Rand
rbowman
Jun 5, 2021, 1:32:51 PM6/5/21
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On 06/04/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
> <srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
>
>> Joel wrote:
>>
>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>
>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>
> Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for what
> he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and he
> would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
And the Democratic obstructionism...
> On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
> <srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
>
>> Joel wrote:
>>
>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>
>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>
> Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for what
> he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and he
> would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
rbowman
Jun 5, 2021, 1:37:21 PM6/5/21
to
On 06/05/2021 08:56 AM, Rabid Roach wrote:
> Even when she's trying to be friendly, she gives people the impression
> that she's an awful cow. It's a talent to be that detestable. She would
> have done great as a heel in professional wrestling.
>
I was thinking the female of another domesticated species...
> Even when she's trying to be friendly, she gives people the impression
> that she's an awful cow. It's a talent to be that detestable. She would
> have done great as a heel in professional wrestling.
>
Snit
Jun 5, 2021, 2:41:50 PM6/5/21
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On Jun 5, 2021 at 10:32:48 AM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ii1qpv...@mid.individual.net>:
Is far less. McConnell has turned this into an art.
<ii1qpv...@mid.individual.net>:
rbowman
Jun 5, 2021, 4:02:34 PM6/5/21
to
On 06/05/2021 12:41 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Jun 5, 2021 at 10:32:48 AM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ii1qpv...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 06/04/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
>>> <srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>>>
>>> Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for
>>> what
>>> he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and
>>> he
>>> would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
>>
>> And the Democratic obstructionism...
>
> Is far less. McConnell has turned this into an art.
>
Yeah, sure, right, okay.
> On Jun 5, 2021 at 10:32:48 AM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ii1qpv...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 06/04/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
>>> <srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>>>
>>> Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for
>>> what
>>> he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and
>>> he
>>> would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
>>
>> And the Democratic obstructionism...
>
> Is far less. McConnell has turned this into an art.
>
Snit
Jun 5, 2021, 9:31:17 PM6/5/21
to
On Jun 5, 2021 at 1:02:30 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ii23il...@mid.individual.net>:
Look at the last few folks added to the SCOTUS. It is utterly indefensible.
I want a representative government. We have an oligarchy.
<ii23il...@mid.individual.net>:
I want a representative government. We have an oligarchy.
rbowman
Jun 5, 2021, 10:34:30 PM6/5/21
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On 06/05/2021 07:31 PM, Snit wrote:
> On Jun 5, 2021 at 1:02:30 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ii23il...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 06/05/2021 12:41 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jun 5, 2021 at 10:32:48 AM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>>> <ii1qpv...@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
>>>>> <srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for
>>>>> what
>>>>> he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and
>>>>> he
>>>>> would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
>>>>
>>>> And the Democratic obstructionism...
>>>
>>> Is far less. McConnell has turned this into an art.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, sure, right, okay.
>
> Look at the last few folks added to the SCOTUS. It is utterly indefensible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_term_opinions_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States
> On Jun 5, 2021 at 1:02:30 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ii23il...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 06/05/2021 12:41 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jun 5, 2021 at 10:32:48 AM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>>> <ii1qpv...@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 06/04/2021 09:37 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2021 at 11:01:46 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
>>>>> <srpkbg5g44r7qoepq...@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no question that Bernie Sanders was the better choice in 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, shit. You think that our debt is bad NOW...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanders would not have had the unfunded tax cuts. He had plans to pay for
>>>>> what
>>>>> he proposed. In the real world things would of course not go as smooth, and
>>>>> he
>>>>> would have had to deal with Republican obstructionism of course.
>>>>
>>>> And the Democratic obstructionism...
>>>
>>> Is far less. McConnell has turned this into an art.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, sure, right, okay.
>
> Look at the last few folks added to the SCOTUS. It is utterly indefensible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_term_opinions_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States
Look how the last few folks have voted, but first look at the number of
unanimous decisions.
If anything I would say Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett have
been a disappointment. Look at the latest , Van Buren v. United States.
Strange bedfellows with Breyer handing the opinion to Barrett.
I found the case interesting because of my line of work. Dispatchers,
and increasingly the officers themselves with laptops in the cars
routinely run NCIC, NLETS, and state CJIN queries on people they
interact with. Running a potential girlfriend through the system out of
idle curiosity is frowned upon but it happens. However, they are not
exceeding their access rights only using them inappropriately.
Getting on a state system and hacking your way into places you're not
supposed to be triggers the CFAA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_v._United_States
Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan tend to hang together so if you're looking
for ideology I'd start with them.
Snit
Jun 6, 2021, 2:55:04 AM6/6/21
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On Jun 5, 2021 at 7:34:25 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ii2qhi...@mid.individual.net>:
Irrelevant to the point I made. They could all vote to completely back the
equal rights "agenda" of the left and it would not make McConnell's
obstructionism any less absurd. And of course it is not just with the SCOTUS
that the Republicans opted to put politics over the American people to a gross
extreme.
ObamaCare -- a plan based on what the Heritage Foundation proposed and first
used by Republicans. Obama accepted that over the liberal single-payer option,
even though single payer would clearly be both cheaper and lead to better
outcomes. What did Republicans do: lie about it having the "death panels" that
insurance companies do have, and act like it was horrid. Trump even said he
would "repeal and replace" -- and tried to do the first part but never had a
clue for the second.
Republicans work to block pretty much anything that is good for America,
including even investigating the terrorist attack of Jan 6... they know many
in their ranks are tied to it.
More on their obstructionism here:
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2015/02/01/a-walk-down-memory-lane-on-republican-obstruction/
and more:
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/opinion-blog/articles/2016-03-16/gop-obstructionism-hits-peak-absurdity-with-supreme-court-nominee-garland
> If anything I would say Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett have
> been a disappointment. Look at the latest , Van Buren v. United States.
> Strange bedfellows with Breyer handing the opinion to Barrett.
>
> I found the case interesting because of my line of work. Dispatchers,
> and increasingly the officers themselves with laptops in the cars
> routinely run NCIC, NLETS, and state CJIN queries on people they
> interact with. Running a potential girlfriend through the system out of
> idle curiosity is frowned upon but it happens. However, they are not
> exceeding their access rights only using them inappropriately.
>
> Getting on a state system and hacking your way into places you're not
> supposed to be triggers the CFAA.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_v._United_States
>
> Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan tend to hang together so if you're looking
> for ideology I'd start with them.
<ii2qhi...@mid.individual.net>:
equal rights "agenda" of the left and it would not make McConnell's
obstructionism any less absurd. And of course it is not just with the SCOTUS
that the Republicans opted to put politics over the American people to a gross
extreme.
ObamaCare -- a plan based on what the Heritage Foundation proposed and first
used by Republicans. Obama accepted that over the liberal single-payer option,
even though single payer would clearly be both cheaper and lead to better
outcomes. What did Republicans do: lie about it having the "death panels" that
insurance companies do have, and act like it was horrid. Trump even said he
would "repeal and replace" -- and tried to do the first part but never had a
clue for the second.
Republicans work to block pretty much anything that is good for America,
including even investigating the terrorist attack of Jan 6... they know many
in their ranks are tied to it.
More on their obstructionism here:
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2015/02/01/a-walk-down-memory-lane-on-republican-obstruction/
and more:
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/opinion-blog/articles/2016-03-16/gop-obstructionism-hits-peak-absurdity-with-supreme-court-nominee-garland
> If anything I would say Roberts, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett have
> been a disappointment. Look at the latest , Van Buren v. United States.
> Strange bedfellows with Breyer handing the opinion to Barrett.
>
> I found the case interesting because of my line of work. Dispatchers,
> and increasingly the officers themselves with laptops in the cars
> routinely run NCIC, NLETS, and state CJIN queries on people they
> interact with. Running a potential girlfriend through the system out of
> idle curiosity is frowned upon but it happens. However, they are not
> exceeding their access rights only using them inappropriately.
>
> Getting on a state system and hacking your way into places you're not
> supposed to be triggers the CFAA.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_v._United_States
>
> Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan tend to hang together so if you're looking
> for ideology I'd start with them.
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