Yep Win7 ?
philo
So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft is doing.
A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista...
it looked pretty good.
Yesterday, the system did not boot...
the OS was just starting to load and I got a 0xC00000e9 error.
I posted on the one Win 7 group I could find...
but in 24 hours not one of the Windows people could even guess at the
problem...
so that's why I've posted here.
I've noticed quite a few here with excellent technical knowledge
of all operating systems.
I attempted to repair the install...
but booting with the Win7 DVD gave no such option.
Oh well, the system was simply for evaluation...
I deleted the two partitions on the drive and performed a clean install...
and darn...got the same error.
The machine has removable drive kits, and there is no problem with any
of the other operating systems I run, but I did all the normal hardware
tests...
The diagnostic on the HD did re-allocate a few sectors...
but otherwise all H/W perfect.
So I tried a different hard drive with a different caddy
and did another fresh install and still got the same error!
sheesh
I was going to give up...
but then had the idea to try an install on the existing partition (not
take the "format" option)
and let the installer archive the original Win7 install
Now it's working.
What the heck is it with Win 7 ?
John Fuhrer
Unplug all unecessary hardware devices, especially USB and try again.
That error is usually due to a hardware device confusing the OS.
Could also be a defective hdisk.
philo
My post clearly stated that I did try a different HD and got the
identical problem...(it was one that tested fine).
There are no periphery devices attached to the machine.
Again...I tried three installs which involved deleting all partitions
and reformatting and they all failed.
yet when I installed without formatting
(using the existing partition from one of the failed installs) it worked
John Fuhrer
Boot the Windows 7 disk and try the repair option.
Ping Erik, he is real good with this stuff.
philo
My post clearly stated I did boot with the Win7 DVD and I was given no
option for repair
John Fuhrer
Sounds like for some reason the OS does not like those drives.
Since they are removeable, any settings in BIOS that effect them?
How did you initially format them?
I know that Western Digital software uses Ontrack crap to fool certain BIOS
and will definately cause troubles.
If you can, as an experiment, take one drive, use a utility, or Linux
liveCD to wipe the drive and do a full, clean format.
Then try and install and see what happens.
That error is common with Vista so you might want to search under Vista and
see what you find.
It's usually some kind of hardware/BIOS error, but could also be a bad
update etc.
It's a tough one to diagnose.
John Fuhrer
You have to keep hitting F8 until it takes you to the startup screen.
It is very tricky and timing is important.
Pretty stupid of MS IMHO.
Google it...
philo
the machine is running Vista with no such problems.
Though, yes, the first drive did have a few sectors that needed to
re-allocated...even with a format and fresh install it did not work.
The real kicker is the same thing happened on a second drive that 100%
passed the factory diagnostic.
Anyway I'll fool around with it some more...
John Fuhrer
I think you have either drive problems or possibly the connector where the
carriers mate to is not making contact correctly...
Play around with it some, and ping Erik I'm sure he can give you better
advice than I can.
philo
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:42:09 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:31:13 -0600, philo wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:19:50 -0600, philo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating system evaluations...
>>>>>> So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft is doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista...
>>>>>> it looked pretty good.
>>> liveCD to wipe the drive and do a full, clean format.
>>> Then try and install and see what happens.
>>>
>>> That error is common with Vista so you might want to search under Vista and
>>> see what you find.
>>>
>>> It's usually some kind of hardware/BIOS error, but could also be a bad
>>> update etc.
>>> It's a tough one to diagnose.
>>
>>
>> the machine is running Vista with no such problems.
>>
>> Though, yes, the first drive did have a few sectors that needed to
>> re-allocated...even with a format and fresh install it did not work.
>>
>> The real kicker is the same thing happened on a second drive that 100%
>> passed the factory diagnostic.
>>
>>
>> Anyway I'll fool around with it some more...
>
> I think you have either drive problems or possibly the connector where the
> carriers mate to is not making contact correctly...
>
> Play around with it some, and ping Erik I'm sure he can give you better
> advice than I can.
I did try a different caddy as well...I know they can get flaky
but all the ones I've been using tested good
John Fuhrer
Weird.
Only thing I can think of is that the factory test isn't really testing
anything.
I've seen that one before with IBM Hitachi drives.
They have "hidden" parameters that allow the program to really test the
drives.
If you don't specify them, the thing will run on almost anything short of a
totally bricked drive.
Maybe you can try another diag?
7
In other words - windump is crap, switch to Linux.
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
philo
I noticed that Win7 created a 100 meg recovery partition
Though I did not get a repair option while booting with the DVD...
I was given a repair option when I got the boot failure message...
so I imagine that it was from the 100 meg recovery partition
anyway I did take that option and though a repair was attempted
it failed
7
In other words FUDDing your computer with screwy conversation
can make it work?
Switch to Linux! Save the day! It takes 6 minutes to 20 minutes
to install Linux which is a boon for repairs.
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
John Fuhrer
That's for bitlocker...
Confused me too until I figured out what it was.
> Though I did not get a repair option while booting with the DVD...
> I was given a repair option when I got the boot failure message...
> so I imagine that it was from the 100 meg recovery partition
That partition is used for recovery as well AFAIK.
I'm new to Windows 7 and not having used Vista I am completely out in the
woods without a compass.
I am learning as I go along.
One piece of advice, don't delete that partition :)
Unless of course you are totally re-installing.
> anyway I did take that option and though a repair was attempted
> it failed
What was the failure code?
7
Of course!
Thumping your windump computer in a timely manner is beneficial!!
Switch to Linux and save the day.
7
In other words use a liveCD or boot with Linux USB stick or an SD Card.
Using extlinux to convert a liveCD iso to bootable SD card
-------------------------------------------------------------
Converting an ISO file to a bootable USB stick or a bootable
SD Card for EEE is easy.
Without being able to convert a distro into a bootable USB flash /SD Card,
that distro can't be easily loaded into netbook like EEE
and stand to miss out on users installing it into netbooks.
So I would recommend all distro mainters look at their netbook
boot strategy and offer something to boot their distros
from USB flash and SD cards or miss out on users installing it into
netbooks.
Having done a few conversions, a pattern emerges that works well for
most syslinux / isolinux / extlinux based distros.
1. Put your SD card or USB flash drive into your desktop Linux PC and
then open a console and type dmesg
You should see some line indicating your flash drive as
being picked up and allocated with a comment like sdc / sdc1 etc..
Remember both names - the first is /dev/sdc which is your
device name, and the second is /dev/sdc1 which is your partition name.
(Don't get confused between drive /dev/sdc and partition /dev/sdc1
or your drive could become scrambled eggs later on. Also remember
it may be called sdg or sdh etc depending what you see when you
plug in device and type dmesg)
2. Install gparted on your machine using synaptic.
To run it you can type
sudo gparted
in a console window and select on the right side the drive name allocated
in step 1. Right click on the bar that represents the partition
and click on manage flags.
Enable the boot flag and click OK. This makes the SD Card / USB
stick bootable.
3. Format the partition /dev/sdc1 to ext2 linux format.
This format is not directly readable under WINDUMMY Osen, but there
are free drivers for it - try for example www.fs-driver.org
The ext2 format is many times faster than windummy FAT so
ditching WINDUMMY file formats is advised.
4. Identify that you have syslinux or isolinux in your liveCD by
opening the .ISO file in archive manager and checking that it has
isolinux or syslinux directory somewhere in the liveCD.
In ubuntu, the root directory of /dev/sdc1 will not be writeable
unless you are in super user mode.
You can run
sudo file-roller
to open iso files like xubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso in super user
mode and extract all the files in the iso file
to the /dev/sdc1 partition.
5. Go to the flash drive and locate the syslinux (or isolinux) directory.
rename it to extlinux. Inside the now renamed extlinux directory will
a file such as syslinux.cfg or isolinux.cfg. Rename that to
extlinux.conf
6. Get syslinux - this is a boot loader and menu system for FAT based
file systems. Download the latest version from here...
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/
Unzip it and go to the extlinux directory.
On my machine path is something like this....../syslinux/extlinux
Run the program there by typing this - (note this command is updating
the partition /dev/sdc1)
./extlinux --install /dev/sdc1/extlinux
This puts a new file into your SD card / USB flash disk
7. from the extlinux directory change to the mbr directory
cd ../mbr
and then run this - again note this time its updating the device by
writing data to the first sector as opposed to the first partition.
sudo cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc
(Note at this stage you may need to do some of the sudo commands after
entering super user mode to make it work properly.
So the above command would have been done as follows in Ubuntu.
sudo -s
cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc
)
This makes the card bootable and useable in an Asus EEE and many other
PCs with SD card or USB flash disk boot facility.
After booting, you can install Linux on to local disk or an external
pocket drive. The pocket drive can be 7200 RPM giving you near desktop
speed.
This method tested and works for
1. Ubuntu
2. Slax
3. Knoppix
4. Puppy
5. DSL
6. GParted
7. gOS
8. Dynabolic
9. MoonOS Kachana
10. Xubuntu
11. TinyOS (incredible distro!)
(Note the method does not work for .ISO files built with grub bootloader -
need a different install method with grub boot loader instead of syslinux.)
Try installing something powerful like Ubuntu on to a netbook
and see it take netbooks to new heights.
3D Translucent Cube Desktop
---------------------------
The latest EEE1000 has fast enough graphics for translucent
3D desktops. An easy way to do all this with Ubuntu is:
Install Ubuntu on EEE (compiz itself
appears to be installed by default in the default install),
then install compiz settings manager using Synaptic
which allows compiz to be fully 'exercised'.
And then do the following to get the 3D cube desktop
working...
Go to General > Display Settings > Lighting and turned it off
Enable Desktop Cube and then Desktop Cube > Transparent Cube and set the
two opacity settings to 30%
then Desktop Cube > Skydome and check the skydome check mark
Enable Rotate Cube
Enable Enhanced Zoom Desktop
Right click the virtual workspaces panel and increase the number
of colums to 16.
And hey presto - 100% 3D translucent desktop with 16 screens!!!!!!!!!!
[Some shortcuts for the 3D screen
ctrl + alt + left or right arrow to spin cube
ctrl + alt + down arrow and then left or right arrow for a ring switcher
super + E for yet another switcher
super + mouse wheel scroll to zoom in and out of the 3D desktop.
]
You can run many applications simultaneously on netbook like a
real Linux desktop. You can open many browser tabs, run Open Office, video,
and developer stuff like MySQL server, Apache, PHP, Gambas, sqlite3
ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY while on a train for example, and rotate the
cube to switch between tasks instantly. Gone are the days when netbooks
were mis-represented as toys. They are fully functional Linux
Desktops on the move. Try it! It works!
Reducing Font Sizes And Turning ON Sub Pixel Rendering
------------------------------------------------------
The EEE can be astonishingly good to look at once the
font size is reduced to about 8 and sub pixel rendering
is turned ON. It is still absolutely
readable and everything appeared like a 'full screen' miniature
desktop equivalent of a big desktop PC.
System > Appearance > Fonts get to the font settings
in Ubuntu. On software like firefox and some other applications,
need to also to set local use of fonts ( Edit > Preferences > Content
will have font settings for firefox that also need to be changed).
VirtualBox
----------
Yes! VirtualBox can run on Ubutu set up with 3D translucent desktop.
http://www.virtualbox.org
Install virtual box and then install programs like windopws XP and run
it pretty much at it would run on a normal netbook. Its hard to tell
if the netbook is running Linux or the WINDUMMY OSen when the software
is run full screen becaue the speed and responsiveness is about
the same between a real windummy OSen install and a virtual box
virtual machine running it all in Linux.
Speeding up netbook to near Desktop speed
-----------------------------------------
With the EEE, you can speed up the netbook into a desktop PC able to handle
giant applications. Just fit USB 7200 RPM external pocket drive. Install
and boot Linux from the external drive. Data transfer rate is about 28
Megabytes per second so video and other stuff work at near desktop speeds.
Obviously it uses up a lot more energy and 2 USB sockets and so
drains battery very fast. Need to be plugged into a charger to
get best performance. You don't want to fit the 7200RPM drive
inside the netbook - it will heat up a lot. If you want 7 to 8 hours of
battery life from your netbooks you need to limit yourself to slowish SSDs
for now. As the pocket drives cost only 40 pounds, another advantage
is that you can have several to switch between tasks.
If netbooks start shipping with e-Sata, then that would be even better
option to get as the e-Sata and 7200 RPM pocket drives
desktop drive are common and cheap.
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
philo
LOL
I did switch to Linux at the beginning of the year...
but since I do a lot of computer repair work...
need to stay current of what Microsoft is doing.
Truth is I live to see problems on my own machines...
If I can fix them...and be prepared...
I'll be able to repair my "customer" machines more efficiently
7
In other words pay a consulting FUDist to talk your misbehaving
windump computer into submission.
Use the force Luke! - Use Linux!
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
philo
I tried two different drives and the same thing happened,,,
but what the heck...I've got lots of spare drive here...
might as well try one more...
I'll post back later with the results
Sinister Midget
Make sure memory and power aren't issues, then use the Vista 7 ME III
media for a coaster. Or hang it up in a room and see if it chases flies
away. Or put in a tree, because we already know it works there even if
it doesn't work so well on computers.
--
Running Windows means never having to say: Task complete!
7
Of course - the color code was 0x0000FF
Switch to Linux and save the day!
http://www.distrowatch.com
http://www.livecdlist.com
7
Aha! Yup use Linux to save the day!
Linux LiveCDs like SystemRescue can help.
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
7
I used to do things like that - then I switched completely to Linux
and made more money from using Linux, freedom software and
open source software for making gadgets and writing applications.
Terry Porter
> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating system
> evaluations... So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft
> is doing.
>
> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista... it
> looked pretty good.
>
> Yesterday, the system did not boot... the OS was just starting to load
> and I got a 0xC00000e9 error.
<snip>
I advise booting with a Ubuntu CD or any other CD that has the 'test
memory' boot option and select it.
Let the memtest86 run until it passes once (this takes 45 minutes on my
8GB ram quadcore) or until you get red lines informing you of ram errors.
Run the above test once more (or overnight) if there are no ram errors,
just to be sure.
Then I would change the PSU with a new or known good one, and run
memtest86 again.
Then try and install vista7 and see what happens. If it still fails,
remove every bit of hardware that is not necessary, such as additional
disks, usb keys, sound cards etc, and try again.
If vista 7 still fails to install, try a Linux install, and if that works
without problems, install vista if you must have windows and forget
vista7 for now ?
--
This machine running Gnu/Linux Ubuntu 9.10 and posting via Pan.
Get your Free copy NOW! http://www.ubuntu.com/
philo
> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating system evaluations...
> So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft is doing.
>
> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista...
> it looked pretty good.
>
Rather than respond to each one who has given me advice individually...
I'll just put my results here.
It looks like there *might* be an issue with Seagate drives
as the first two I tried were Seagate...
but I just got done installing Win7 on Maxtor drive and it installed
correctly on the first try.
Now of course..since all of these are older drives (40 gigs...anyone
here old enough to remember drives that small? <G>)...it's possible that
Win7 is just "fussy" about older H/W
However I do have a new external drive that's also a Seagate
and though it works fine from XP or Linux...
Vista and Win7 "see" the drive as unformatted.
Anyway I do wish to thank everyone here for giving me good advice and
not jumping on me by yelling "OT".
Had I not decided to kick around the problem here...
I doubt I would have thought of trying even one more HD
Chris Ahlstrom
> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating system evaluations...
> So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft is doing.
>
> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista...
> it looked pretty good.
>
> Yesterday, the system did not boot...
> the OS was just starting to load and I got a 0xC00000e9 error.
>
> I posted on the one Win 7 group I could find...
> but in 24 hours not one of the Windows people could even guess at the
> problem...
> so that's why I've posted here.
>
> <snip>
>
> I was going to give up... but then had the idea to try an install on the
> existing partition (not take the "format" option) and let the installer
> archive the original Win7 install
>
> Now it's working.
>
> What the heck is it with Win 7 ?
Probably a bug in the driver that manifests itself in formatting.
C00000E9 STATUS_UNEXPECTED_IO_ERROR
--
The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
between a mermaid and a seal.
-- Mark Twain
Chris Ahlstrom
> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>
>> Boot the Windows 7 disk and try the repair option.
>> Ping Erik, he is real good with this stuff.
>
> My post clearly stated I did boot with the Win7 DVD and I was given no
> option for repair
Win 7 repair... doesn't. It's not very good.
Linux beats the snot out of Windows in this area.
--
Q: How many marketing people does it take to change a light bulb?
A: I'll have to get back to you on that.
Chris Ahlstrom
> I noticed that Win7 created a 100 meg recovery partition
That's not a recovery partition. The recovery partition is more like 12 Gb
in size. The 100 meg one is for encryption support and other stuff.
> Though I did not get a repair option while booting with the DVD...
> I was given a repair option when I got the boot failure message...
> so I imagine that it was from the 100 meg recovery partition
>
> anyway I did take that option and though a repair was attempted
> it failed
I haven't seen Win 7 repair do squat.
--
The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
-- John Milton
amicus_curious
"philo" <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:_d-dnfuenJta1GjX...@ntd.net...
>
> What the heck is it with Win 7 ?
>
It is a matter of your attitude. I expect Windows to work and it always
does. New computers work right out of the box with whatever Windows is
installed and they have worked right out of the box since the beginning.
You expect it to fail and you manage to make that happen. Windows is an
inanimate object and what you do affects the outcome. Consider how many
COLA fans manage to make it break when so few ordinary users ever have such
grief.
Clogwog
news:_d-dnfuenJta1GjX...@ntd.net...
> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating system
> evaluations...
> So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft is doing.
>
> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista...
> it looked pretty good.
>
> Yesterday, the system did not boot...
> the OS was just starting to load and I got a 0xC00000e9 error.
>
> I posted on the one Win 7 group I could find...
> but in 24 hours not one of the Windows people could even guess at the
> problem...
> so that's why I've posted here.
>
> of all operating systems.
>
>
> I attempted to repair the install...
> but booting with the Win7 DVD gave no such option.
>
> Oh well, the system was simply for evaluation...
> I deleted the two partitions on the drive and performed a clean install...
> and darn...got the same error.
>
>
> The machine has removable drive kits, and there is no problem with any of
> the other operating systems I run, but I did all the normal hardware
> tests...
>
> The diagnostic on the HD did re-allocate a few sectors...
> but otherwise all H/W perfect.
>
> So I tried a different hard drive with a different caddy
> and did another fresh install and still got the same error!
>
> sheesh
>
> but then had the idea to try an install on the existing partition (not
> take the "format" option)
> and let the installer archive the original Win7 install
>
> Now it's working.
>
>
Provide more info:
system spec?
laptop? (internal webcam is suspected)
32bit / 64bit OS?
Which bootmanager?
VGA monitor?
What kind of install DVD did you use?
Swapped mouse?, keyboard?
Almost certain some kind of fucked hardware issue!
philo
I posted the results a few line up
philo
LOL
Congratulations...
the first foolish response I got on this thread...
knew one was going to turn up sooner or later.
I am neither a Windows advocate nor a Linux advocate...
So far no OS has beaten my 1939 L.C Smith and Corona typewriter
for reliability.
It even works during power-failures...
but admittedly, the spell checker ain't so hot. <G>
Chris Ahlstrom
> So far no OS has beaten my 1939 L.C Smith and Corona typewriter
> for reliability.
>
> It even works during power-failures...
> but admittedly, the spell checker ain't so hot. <G>
Actually, it is the best one of all... totally context-sensitive, if
prone to inaccuracy.
For example:
I am going to meat my girlfriend.
~~~~
What a ruckus that might cause.
--
You will be successful in love.
AZ Nomad
>As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating system evaluations...
>So I feel obligated to keep current with what Microsoft is doing.
>A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to Vista...
>it looked pretty good.
>Yesterday, the system did not boot...
>the OS was just starting to load and I got a 0xC00000e9 error.
>I posted on the one Win 7 group I could find...
>but in 24 hours not one of the Windows people could even guess at the
>problem...
>so that's why I've posted here.
The problem is obvious; you've corrupted your hard drive by running the
win7 installer.
Wipe it and put a linux distribution on it.
philo
Yes...
though I am semi-retired from the poetry scene...
I used to write a lot.
As a matter of fact I wrote *continuously* for ten years straight
and never missed a single day...
I'd often enough write ten pages a day.
I found that very often...my typos were way better than what I had
intended to write so I'd usually leave them.
Charles Bukowski, during an interview once stated that if he was going
to write about a cat, but he typed the letter "d" by mistake...he'd just
write about a dog instead.
Anyone who's ever used a manual typewriter can probably identify with that.
Bukowski also said that he was too lazy to retype his poems if he made
an error...so he'd simply "xxxxxx" out an offending line...
he got a good laugh when the poems were published that way...
the editor assuming that's what he meant.
The best part of using a manual typewriter was that by moving the
carriage by hand...I could create my own punctuation.
On my computer, I can easily enough print a semi-colon >>> ; <<<
or a colon >>> : <<<
but only on my typewriter could I easily create a *pseudocolon* as I
called it. Comma on top , period below . <G>
I suppose if it had any importance I could figure out a way to create my
own custom punctuation.
philo
LOL
I've posted a dozen times that I am a Linux user
I install Windows mainly for evaluation purposes and to gain familiarity
with operating systems
Jerry McBride
> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating
system
> evaluations... So I feel obligated to keep current with
what Microsoft is
> doing.
>
> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to
Vista...
> it looked pretty good.
>
> Yesterday, the system did not boot...
> the OS was just starting to load and I got a 0xC00000e9
error.
>
> I posted on the one Win 7 group I could find...
> but in 24 hours not one of the Windows people could even
guess at the
> problem...
> so that's why I've posted here.
>
That's easy to fix. Install Ubuntu...
--
*****************************************************************************
From the desk of:
Jerome D. McBride
13:15:08 up 6 min, 3 users, load average: 0.53,
0.64, 0.29
*****************************************************************************
Clogwog
news:nPiJm.24936$1g6....@newsfe10.iad...
> philo wrote:
>
>> As I've mentioned here before I do a lot of operating
> system
>> evaluations... So I feel obligated to keep current with
> what Microsoft is
>> doing.
>>
>> A few weeks back I did a Win 7 install and compared to
> Vista...
>> it looked pretty good.
>>
>> Yesterday, the system did not boot...
>> the OS was just starting to load and I got a 0xC00000e9
> error.
>>
>> I posted on the one Win 7 group I could find...
>> but in 24 hours not one of the Windows people could even
> guess at the
>> problem...
>> so that's why I've posted here.
>>
>
> That's easy to fix. Install Ubuntu...
>
John Fuhrer
If the HD isn't hosed before the Ubuntu 9.10 install, it will certainly be
hosed after you install Ubuntu 9.10 krusty karmic.
RonB
> Weird.
> Only thing I can think of is that the factory test isn't really testing
> anything.
> I've seen that one before with IBM Hitachi drives. They have "hidden"
> parameters that allow the program to really test the drives.
> If you don't specify them, the thing will run on almost anything short
> of a totally bricked drive.
>
>
> Maybe you can try another diag?
Typical Microsoft "support." If our crap OS doesn't work, YOU must have
screwed something up.
Same old, same old...
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
RonB
> Make sure memory and power aren't issues, then use the Vista 7 ME III
> media for a coaster. Or hang it up in a room and see if it chases flies
> away. Or put in a tree, because we already know it works there even if
> it doesn't work so well on computers.
Christmas is coming and your Win 7 DVD is *shiny!*
RonB
> LOL
>
> I've posted a dozen times that I am a Linux user
I think they're being a little facetious.
philo
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:41:03 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> LOL
>>
>> I've posted a dozen times that I am a Linux user
>
> I think they're being a little facetious.
>
LOL
so am I...
I've only mentioned it 10 times
Nigel Feltham
That's nothing - back in January 2008 there was an appeal put out for help
needed to fix Astronomer (and presenter of BBC's 'The Sky at Night')
Patrick Moore's typewriter, turns out every book he'd written (over 70 of
them) was done on a 1908 Woodstock typewriter he'd been given aged 9 and it
was now starting to fail.
He refused to switch to a wordprocessor as too slow to type on - he could
manage 90 words a minute on his 1908 mechanical machine and only 15 on a
wordprocessor (he only types with 2 fingers which wouldn't have helped).
philo
Yep
My typewriter requires one ribbon a year...
and every five years I need to clean it and oil it a bit.
If I'm five years late in my maintenance...no big deal
Nigel Feltham
I still have an old 'Royal' brand typewriter I was given in the late 70's as
a kid and it's still fitted with the same ribbon now (and still worked last
time tested) - bought by my grandparents as an office typewriter sometime
in the 1950's. Hard to get the correct ribbon for these as it's a 2 colour
one (switchable between Red and Black).
I have an old black open chassis typewriter in the loft as well (can't
remember the make but similar in style to the old 'imperial' models), also
in full working order last time it was tested.