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Rex Ballard, where did you suggest the "Microsoft monopoly" would be broken by companies not known for PCs? (7th request)
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DFS
Feb 11, 2012, 9:04:09 AM2/11/12
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You recently claimed: "I had suggested about 2 years ago that the
Microsoft Monopoly wouldn't be broken by Dell, HP, and Gateway - but
instead by companies who wouldn't be known for their PCs."
Where's the post you made containing that suggestion?
Microsoft Monopoly wouldn't be broken by Dell, HP, and Gateway - but
instead by companies who wouldn't be known for their PCs."
Where's the post you made containing that suggestion?
Foster
Feb 11, 2012, 9:42:50 AM2/11/12
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DFS
Feb 11, 2012, 9:50:24 AM2/11/12
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The response will contain more bullshit Rex lies and obfuscations, of
course. He's a Linux Visionary and "advocate" and "Leader Of The
Internet" and scorned wannabe-MS-developer.
Foster
Feb 11, 2012, 9:55:20 AM2/11/12
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from you Rex, that means a lot".
And of course, Chris Ahlstrom's admiring of Rex Ballard is the stuff
romance novels are made of.
Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 10:28:17 AM2/11/12
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I posted it right here in COLA. If you're too lazy to look it up, so am I.
Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 10:44:48 AM2/11/12
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Here's one from 6 months ago
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Rex$20Ballard$20Linux$20Acer$20ASUS$20Casio/comp.os.linux.advocacy/St2C-0s0Ml4/D1tgZe0ZZqUJ
http://tinyurl.com/78jetrk
In the thread:
Hoooray!!!! Death to micoshaft!!
I wrote:
Microsoft has a big problem right now. Compaq was in bad shape when HP bought them, Gateway was on the verge of Bankruptcy when they were bought by Acer, and IBM dumped Lenovo because it was such a money pit.
Today, Dell and HP have to compete not only with Acer and ASUS, but also with Pandigital (electronic picture frames - now tablets), Motorola, HTC, Blackberry, Apple, Archos, Casio, and about a dozen other consumer products manufacturers offering 7 and 10 inch tablets with Android and bluetooth capabilities, not to mention Kindle and Nook, which are Linux powered and put tablets in the $100 range.
> > The impact of MS racketeering on OEMs certainly is diminishing. Not
> > that it's entirely gone, but it's heading in the right direction.
There was once a time when Microsoft's blessing was a guarantee of 20% annualized growth rates, 30-40% profit margins, and minimal support and replacement costs. For this reason, OEMs felt that it would not be possible to sell an entire line of PCs without Windows.
ASUS showed that they could sell millions of NetBooks running only Linux, and Acer followed with their version. According to one maker, on similarly equipped hardware, the Linux device captured 40% of the market.
Microsoft has not done very well in the smaller devices. Even on Netbooks, Windows 7 pretty much killed the market for Netbooks, and the iPad was the final nail in the coffin for Windows 7 based Netbooks. Many retailers are sitting on very stale inventory.
In tablets, the scene has been even worse. Microsoft has been used on Windows 7 tablets - but they typically cost nearly $2,000 and are pretty much standard PCs with SSDs - Windows 7 was just too power hungry.
Windows 6 mobile and Windows 7 mobile have failed to generate any substantial excitement - because Google is doing things that even iPhones can't do with all carriers. With my HTC Thunderbolt, I can talk on the phone, be a wifi hub, and run android apps all at the same time - thanks to that little Linux kernel in the guts of the phone.
Linux in it's Android and Kindle form, are generating awesome sales numbers, and the Sony e-book is not doing too badly either.
With Asus offering Android 3.x on it's 10 inch tablet, along with bluetooth, WiFi and USB a and b ports, it's pretty hard not to look at Android tablets as a real competitor to Windows on PCs. For those who already have a PC, the tablet means they don't have to rush into an upgrade right away. With many companies now stretching their refresh cycles out to 5 years, compared to every 2 years several years ago, the tablet is the best way to get the latest and greatest features and apps.
Even app developers are losing interest in Windows 7 as a sole development platform. Programming for Android and iPhones - using the user interfaces to talk to Linux service applications - has made it much easier to more programming get more support for more platforms, get a bigger piece of a rapidly growing market - using Linux/Unix API and Android/iOS GUI interfaces.
Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10 million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue, since your profits are non-existent.
In the same thread you wrote:
Silly, cheesy, whiny, dishonest, idiotic, scared, childish lunatics.
You and your nanobots who are staging a mutiny on the holodeck.
and
Piece Of Shit.
You eloquence as a writer is astounding.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Rex$20Ballard$20Linux$20Acer$20ASUS$20Casio/comp.os.linux.advocacy/St2C-0s0Ml4/D1tgZe0ZZqUJ
http://tinyurl.com/78jetrk
In the thread:
Hoooray!!!! Death to micoshaft!!
I wrote:
Microsoft has a big problem right now. Compaq was in bad shape when HP bought them, Gateway was on the verge of Bankruptcy when they were bought by Acer, and IBM dumped Lenovo because it was such a money pit.
Today, Dell and HP have to compete not only with Acer and ASUS, but also with Pandigital (electronic picture frames - now tablets), Motorola, HTC, Blackberry, Apple, Archos, Casio, and about a dozen other consumer products manufacturers offering 7 and 10 inch tablets with Android and bluetooth capabilities, not to mention Kindle and Nook, which are Linux powered and put tablets in the $100 range.
> > The impact of MS racketeering on OEMs certainly is diminishing. Not
> > that it's entirely gone, but it's heading in the right direction.
There was once a time when Microsoft's blessing was a guarantee of 20% annualized growth rates, 30-40% profit margins, and minimal support and replacement costs. For this reason, OEMs felt that it would not be possible to sell an entire line of PCs without Windows.
ASUS showed that they could sell millions of NetBooks running only Linux, and Acer followed with their version. According to one maker, on similarly equipped hardware, the Linux device captured 40% of the market.
Microsoft has not done very well in the smaller devices. Even on Netbooks, Windows 7 pretty much killed the market for Netbooks, and the iPad was the final nail in the coffin for Windows 7 based Netbooks. Many retailers are sitting on very stale inventory.
In tablets, the scene has been even worse. Microsoft has been used on Windows 7 tablets - but they typically cost nearly $2,000 and are pretty much standard PCs with SSDs - Windows 7 was just too power hungry.
Windows 6 mobile and Windows 7 mobile have failed to generate any substantial excitement - because Google is doing things that even iPhones can't do with all carriers. With my HTC Thunderbolt, I can talk on the phone, be a wifi hub, and run android apps all at the same time - thanks to that little Linux kernel in the guts of the phone.
Linux in it's Android and Kindle form, are generating awesome sales numbers, and the Sony e-book is not doing too badly either.
With Asus offering Android 3.x on it's 10 inch tablet, along with bluetooth, WiFi and USB a and b ports, it's pretty hard not to look at Android tablets as a real competitor to Windows on PCs. For those who already have a PC, the tablet means they don't have to rush into an upgrade right away. With many companies now stretching their refresh cycles out to 5 years, compared to every 2 years several years ago, the tablet is the best way to get the latest and greatest features and apps.
Even app developers are losing interest in Windows 7 as a sole development platform. Programming for Android and iPhones - using the user interfaces to talk to Linux service applications - has made it much easier to more programming get more support for more platforms, get a bigger piece of a rapidly growing market - using Linux/Unix API and Android/iOS GUI interfaces.
Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10 million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue, since your profits are non-existent.
In the same thread you wrote:
Silly, cheesy, whiny, dishonest, idiotic, scared, childish lunatics.
You and your nanobots who are staging a mutiny on the holodeck.
and
Piece Of Shit.
You eloquence as a writer is astounding.
DFS
Feb 11, 2012, 10:56:12 AM2/11/12
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>On 2/11/2012 10:28 AM, Rex Ballard wrote:
> If you're too lazy to look it up, so am I.
I DID look it up. Google has no record of you suggesting any such thing.
And I'm as far from lazy as you are from honest. You're such a pitiful
dirtbag liar it defies reality.
> I posted it right here in COLA.
What was the name and date of the thread?
> If you're too lazy to look it up, so am I.
And I'm as far from lazy as you are from honest. You're such a pitiful
dirtbag liar it defies reality.
Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 10:58:36 AM2/11/12
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Though I didn't actually mention non-pc companies, I had suggested that if Linux devices were ever put on display in the retail store, they would be quite successful and quite profitable. The success of Linux powered Android, Kindle, Nook, and e-reader devices has shown this to be true.
On 9/29/07 I posted this in the thread:
Re: Linux still not on Retail Shelves - Re: Laptop with GNU/Linux Preinstalled Launched for Scientists
I've seen boxes containing Xandros, Linspire, and SUSE at several of
these stores, and of course Barnes and Nobel and Borders almost always
have at least a few books and magazines containing Linux on CDs or
DVDs.
I have purchased several versions of Linux through Borders or B&K as
well as CompUSA before it closed, and Office Max..
I've been to Office Max lately. I didn't see an actual COMPUTER that
was RUNNING any version of Linux, where I could take it for a test
drive.
What's remarkable about the fact that there are something like 90
million operational Linux-only desktop machines out there (still less
than 9% of the total market) is that nearly all of these machines were
configured by end-users. Almost NONE of them were sold through a
major retail franchise channel. Fry's in California had some Linux
machines on display in the Silicon Valley area. The biggest problem
there was that these were low-end machines and many retail Linux PC
purchasers have been buying high-end hardware for Linux.
When I run Linux on my Z61p, it knows about the 3gig of RAM on the PC,
and makes full use of it. It knows about the 64 bit capability, and
uses it. It knows about my OpenGL graphics card (FireGL) and makes
full use of it. It knows about my FireWire, USB-2, and WiFi cards,
and makes full use of them.
When I run Windows XP on the same machine, it only sees 2 gig (less
actually), it only sees a 32 bit processor, it keeps running the USB-2
in USB-1 speeds, and the WiFi card needs 3rd party software to be
operational.
On the other hand, the Windows version does support Verizon's USB-
Cellular modem, and I haven't figured out how to make Linux do that.
Either way, it's not that hard to run a Linux VM on Windows, or a
Windows VM on Linux, and get "the best of both worlds".
I like BOTH Linux and Windows, especially TOGETHER. I'd LOVE to see
Lenovo come out with a "dual-mode" PC, that is configured with a fully
supported version of Linux AND a fully supported version of Windows
that can be run concurrently.
With Dual-core and Quad-core 64 bit processors, it's rediculous that
Microsoft won't let the OEMs ship and advertise that configuration.
If Acer or one of the other "top 10" OEMs decides to offer Linux to
retailers, and offers them a large profit margin to go with it, and
offers OEM Windows as an "Application" running under Linux, much the
same way iMac offers Windows as an Application under OS/X, they will
be getting profit margins similar to Apple's.
On 9/29/07 I posted this in the thread:
Re: Linux still not on Retail Shelves - Re: Laptop with GNU/Linux Preinstalled Launched for Scientists
I've seen boxes containing Xandros, Linspire, and SUSE at several of
these stores, and of course Barnes and Nobel and Borders almost always
have at least a few books and magazines containing Linux on CDs or
DVDs.
I have purchased several versions of Linux through Borders or B&K as
well as CompUSA before it closed, and Office Max..
I've been to Office Max lately. I didn't see an actual COMPUTER that
was RUNNING any version of Linux, where I could take it for a test
drive.
What's remarkable about the fact that there are something like 90
million operational Linux-only desktop machines out there (still less
than 9% of the total market) is that nearly all of these machines were
configured by end-users. Almost NONE of them were sold through a
major retail franchise channel. Fry's in California had some Linux
machines on display in the Silicon Valley area. The biggest problem
there was that these were low-end machines and many retail Linux PC
purchasers have been buying high-end hardware for Linux.
When I run Linux on my Z61p, it knows about the 3gig of RAM on the PC,
and makes full use of it. It knows about the 64 bit capability, and
uses it. It knows about my OpenGL graphics card (FireGL) and makes
full use of it. It knows about my FireWire, USB-2, and WiFi cards,
and makes full use of them.
When I run Windows XP on the same machine, it only sees 2 gig (less
actually), it only sees a 32 bit processor, it keeps running the USB-2
in USB-1 speeds, and the WiFi card needs 3rd party software to be
operational.
On the other hand, the Windows version does support Verizon's USB-
Cellular modem, and I haven't figured out how to make Linux do that.
Either way, it's not that hard to run a Linux VM on Windows, or a
Windows VM on Linux, and get "the best of both worlds".
I like BOTH Linux and Windows, especially TOGETHER. I'd LOVE to see
Lenovo come out with a "dual-mode" PC, that is configured with a fully
supported version of Linux AND a fully supported version of Windows
that can be run concurrently.
With Dual-core and Quad-core 64 bit processors, it's rediculous that
Microsoft won't let the OEMs ship and advertise that configuration.
If Acer or one of the other "top 10" OEMs decides to offer Linux to
retailers, and offers them a large profit margin to go with it, and
offers OEM Windows as an "Application" running under Linux, much the
same way iMac offers Windows as an Application under OS/X, they will
be getting profit margins similar to Apple's.
Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 11:06:26 AM2/11/12
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On April 27, 2007 I wrote this little piece in the thread:
Micoshaft LYING About Revenues
[QUOTE]
Vista seems to be going the path of NT 3.x and Windows ME.
Remember that in that period, customers continued to purchase
PCs with previous versions of Windows rather than the new and
unpopular versions.
...
Keep in mind Microsoft doesn't want you to install Vista on your
Kayak.
You would be a high-maintenance customer. Microsoft wants you to go
out and spend $1200-$2300 for a new desktop or laptop that has been
premium priced because of it's ability to run Vista.
If you don't buy the new machines, the OEMs won't want to buy more
Vista
next year. If you wait until the price drops 50% (they have already
dropped 30%),
the OEMs might start looking for something "New and Different" to help
them
sell PCs, since Vista isn't doing the job.
The biggest threat isn't the big players like HP, Dell, and Lennovo.
It's the little
guys like Acer, Gateway, E-Machines, and the "White Box" market.
Dell is looking beyond the "Direct Sales" market because the "White
Box" market is now eating into it's core business. Dell also knows
that if it wants freedom from Microsoft, they will need to put Dell
Machines, running Linux or Unix, onto retailer shelves. Even if it's
not their primary source of revenue, it get's Linux machines in front
of consumers.
According to Gartner, Acer shipped 4.28 million PCs to grab 6.8
percent of the market,
That would be 62 million machines in a quarter?
Lennovo sold 3.97 million for 6.3% - which would be 63 million
machines.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131293-c,techindustrytrends/article.html
Ironically, Acer is probably one of the most Linux-focused vendors.
Nearly all of their machines will run Linux "out of the box". The
machine is sold with Windows XP,
but it's Linux-Ready.
Meanwhile, Dell's market share dropped from 16.4 to 13.9% as Unit
sales declined 7.8%.
Oops a 2.5% decrease in Market share and a 7.8% drop in Unit sales?
Sounds to me like the market shrank by about 5%?
This was from January to March.
[/QUOTE]
Micoshaft LYING About Revenues
[QUOTE]
Vista seems to be going the path of NT 3.x and Windows ME.
Remember that in that period, customers continued to purchase
PCs with previous versions of Windows rather than the new and
unpopular versions.
...
Keep in mind Microsoft doesn't want you to install Vista on your
Kayak.
You would be a high-maintenance customer. Microsoft wants you to go
out and spend $1200-$2300 for a new desktop or laptop that has been
premium priced because of it's ability to run Vista.
If you don't buy the new machines, the OEMs won't want to buy more
Vista
next year. If you wait until the price drops 50% (they have already
dropped 30%),
the OEMs might start looking for something "New and Different" to help
them
sell PCs, since Vista isn't doing the job.
The biggest threat isn't the big players like HP, Dell, and Lennovo.
It's the little
guys like Acer, Gateway, E-Machines, and the "White Box" market.
Dell is looking beyond the "Direct Sales" market because the "White
Box" market is now eating into it's core business. Dell also knows
that if it wants freedom from Microsoft, they will need to put Dell
Machines, running Linux or Unix, onto retailer shelves. Even if it's
not their primary source of revenue, it get's Linux machines in front
of consumers.
According to Gartner, Acer shipped 4.28 million PCs to grab 6.8
percent of the market,
That would be 62 million machines in a quarter?
Lennovo sold 3.97 million for 6.3% - which would be 63 million
machines.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131293-c,techindustrytrends/article.html
Ironically, Acer is probably one of the most Linux-focused vendors.
Nearly all of their machines will run Linux "out of the box". The
machine is sold with Windows XP,
but it's Linux-Ready.
Meanwhile, Dell's market share dropped from 16.4 to 13.9% as Unit
sales declined 7.8%.
Oops a 2.5% decrease in Market share and a 7.8% drop in Unit sales?
Sounds to me like the market shrank by about 5%?
This was from January to March.
[/QUOTE]
DFS
Feb 11, 2012, 11:20:02 AM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 10:44 AM, Rex Ballard wrote:
> Here's one from 6 months ago
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Rex$20Ballard$20Linux$20Acer$20ASUS$20Casio/comp.os.linux.advocacy/St2C-0s0Ml4/D1tgZe0ZZqUJ
>
> http://tinyurl.com/78jetrk
>
> In the thread:
> Hoooray!!!! Death to micoshaft!!
>
> I wrote:
<snip another massive flood of Rex's "facts">
> Here's one from 6 months ago
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Rex$20Ballard$20Linux$20Acer$20ASUS$20Casio/comp.os.linux.advocacy/St2C-0s0Ml4/D1tgZe0ZZqUJ
>
> http://tinyurl.com/78jetrk
>
> In the thread:
> Hoooray!!!! Death to micoshaft!!
>
> I wrote:
Again, where did you suggest the "Microsoft monopoly" would be broken by
companies not known for PCs?
> In the same thread you wrote:
> Silly, cheesy, whiny, dishonest, idiotic, scared, childish lunatics.
>
> You and your nanobots who are staging a mutiny on the holodeck.
>
> and
> Piece Of Shit.
> You eloquence as a writer is astounding.
this one post you submitted another batch of bullshit lies:
* "There was once a time when Microsoft's blessing was a guarantee of
20% annualized growth rates, 30-40% profit margins"
* "Windows 7 pretty much killed the market for Netbooks"
* "Microsoft has been used on Windows 7 tablets - but they typically
cost nearly $2,000"
* "Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 11:48:01 AM2/11/12
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Here's another trip down memory lane on 4/24/2007 from:
Bill Grates, MS Foundation Sold Out All MS Stock - Ding Ding!!
[QUOTE]
I think the CIOs and CTOs are beginning to get the wake-up call. They
are pretty much looking at the end of their careers if they try to
campaign aggressively for Vista. I've noticed that the price wars on Vista have already begun. Licenses are discounted 30% just to dump the excess inventory. PCs are already 30% off because no one wants to buy retail machines loaded with Vista Home edition.
[/QUOTE]
We now know that Vista was a disaster for Microsoft. The only good thing about it was that when Windows 7 came out, critics were comparing 7 to Vista rather than to Windows XP or OS/X or Linux.
[QUOTE]
How much longer before Geek Squad makes Linux installation,
configuration, and support a mandatory skill. Go to Best Buy and ask if the Geek Squad guy can install Linux on your new PC!! Maybe if about 2 million people did that over the next 3 months, the retailers will get the hint and put a few Linux machines on display!
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
Dell and HP are already offering Linux on their top-of-the-line machines, along
with continuing to offer Windows XP instead of Vista on most of their machines.
Retail oriented companies like E-Machines, Acer, and Sony are hurting really
bad. Fortunately they don't have the fickle investment community we have in
the USA. And what about Gateway? Can they really brace for another year or
two of selling machines at 10-20% loss per machine?
[/QUOTE]
E-machines was virtually bankrupt when they were purchased by Gateway, and Gateway's stock had crashed from $15 to $1.30 a share when Acer bought the virtually bankrupt company.
In addition, several retailers, including CompUSA and Circuit City went bankrupt, largely due to the terrible response to Vista.
[QUOTE]
> > Windows has no future except for a weak attempt to ruin the WWW via web
> > apps, MS style. What a gruesome idea.
Microsoft has been trying to ruin the Internet since 1980. It hasn't
happened yet. Sure, in 1984, it was usenet and DOD, and even after the merger it was "Commercial free" until 1992, but even back in those days, Microsoft
was pushing dial-up services for downloading virus infested shareware
rather than adopting the Open Source strategy required on usenet/arpanet/
internet.
And the irony is that Microsoft may be shooting itself in the foot! It seems
than across the industry, XP machines have suddenly started slowing
down significantly. Ironically it's due to a virus called LUALL.EXE which
also happens to be the same name a the program used by Symantic/Norton
antivirus to update it's virus definitions. Perhaps Microsoft is
trying to scare people into a forced upgrade to Vista instead of sticking with XP and Symantic.
[/QUOTE]
Ironically, because of Microsoft's attempt to try and pull more of it's proprietary "Own the Internet" tactics, the industry adopted Web 2.0, AJAX, and Dojo and adopted a standard version of Javascript that even Microsoft adopted in IE7 and Later. Today, most corporations have tried to get rid of IE6 specific code.
[QUOTE]
> > Almost as absurd as PassPort, the biggest security joke in the history of
> > computing -- MS style again.
Yes. Just what I always wanted to do, is put all my credit cards, passwords to banks, brokerages, and other financial institutions, into a file "protected" by
Microsoft's certificate authority. After all, they've done such a good job of protecting our computers from viruses by using the same protection schemes, how could a hacker possibly get the credit card and bank information on 6 million customers and collect $20 per person per month for nearly 2 years?
[/QUOTE]
Identity theft has become a big industry. Today, losses world-wide since 4/2007 are in the $trillions, possibly as high as $1 trillion a year in primary and secondary damages.
[QUOTE]
> > Bill loves "helping" people. What the hell! Oh yeah, yet another set of
> > lies from MS lawyers. Big Pharma Bill will help drug your kids, and
> > widows will soak you, spy on you, and in the end crash your internet.
>
> > Thanks for nothing MS.
>
> Interesting - do you have a reference for this?
He's expressing an opinion that alludes to a number of discussions
which can easily be found on this newsgroup or Google.
I'm just curious to see, in about 10 years, how many ads there will be for synthetic THC for all those baby-boomers. If they are stoned all the
time on cheap "synthetic pot", maybe they won't notice that their SSI
benefits are less than 1/3 those of their parents, or that their 401K
savings were wiped out by fund managers who thought Enron, WorldCom, and
Microsoft were really great investments. Or that the Pensions and Annuities were canceled or curtailed because the investments driving them collapsed.
Heck, maybe they'll start making it mandatory, to keep the old geezers from going violent or turning into full-time pains in the neck.
[/QUOTE]
It's hard to imagine that since this was originally posted, several states have legalized "Medical Marajuana" much of it stronger than the illegal kind. In addition, the stock market crashed, the housing market collapsed, unemployment shot up to 8% and pensions are now in Default. Even the United States government is at risk of Default.
I don't think we can blame Bill Gates or Microsoft for that, but we can see the similarities between many of the tactics used by Microsoft and the organizations that were responsible for the collapse.
We've also seen the growth of the TEA party and Occupy Wall Street.
I suspect that by the end of 2012 or the start of 2013 we will see violence and bloodshed between these factions. Maybe only for a day or two, or possibly a civil war between the cities and the rural areas.
************************************
On 9/4/06 in Re: Forbes: OEM's Suffer from Microsoft's 'Scare Tactics'
[QUOTE]
Microsoft is above the law.
There is no law.
Lawlessness prevails.
[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the kind of behavior and thinking that would lead to things like Lehman, the housing crash, and economic collapse, possibly even violence in the streets at massive levels.
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Bill Grates, MS Foundation Sold Out All MS Stock - Ding Ding!!
[QUOTE]
I think the CIOs and CTOs are beginning to get the wake-up call. They
are pretty much looking at the end of their careers if they try to
campaign aggressively for Vista. I've noticed that the price wars on Vista have already begun. Licenses are discounted 30% just to dump the excess inventory. PCs are already 30% off because no one wants to buy retail machines loaded with Vista Home edition.
[/QUOTE]
We now know that Vista was a disaster for Microsoft. The only good thing about it was that when Windows 7 came out, critics were comparing 7 to Vista rather than to Windows XP or OS/X or Linux.
[QUOTE]
How much longer before Geek Squad makes Linux installation,
configuration, and support a mandatory skill. Go to Best Buy and ask if the Geek Squad guy can install Linux on your new PC!! Maybe if about 2 million people did that over the next 3 months, the retailers will get the hint and put a few Linux machines on display!
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
Dell and HP are already offering Linux on their top-of-the-line machines, along
with continuing to offer Windows XP instead of Vista on most of their machines.
Retail oriented companies like E-Machines, Acer, and Sony are hurting really
bad. Fortunately they don't have the fickle investment community we have in
the USA. And what about Gateway? Can they really brace for another year or
two of selling machines at 10-20% loss per machine?
[/QUOTE]
E-machines was virtually bankrupt when they were purchased by Gateway, and Gateway's stock had crashed from $15 to $1.30 a share when Acer bought the virtually bankrupt company.
In addition, several retailers, including CompUSA and Circuit City went bankrupt, largely due to the terrible response to Vista.
[QUOTE]
> > Windows has no future except for a weak attempt to ruin the WWW via web
> > apps, MS style. What a gruesome idea.
Microsoft has been trying to ruin the Internet since 1980. It hasn't
happened yet. Sure, in 1984, it was usenet and DOD, and even after the merger it was "Commercial free" until 1992, but even back in those days, Microsoft
was pushing dial-up services for downloading virus infested shareware
rather than adopting the Open Source strategy required on usenet/arpanet/
internet.
And the irony is that Microsoft may be shooting itself in the foot! It seems
than across the industry, XP machines have suddenly started slowing
down significantly. Ironically it's due to a virus called LUALL.EXE which
also happens to be the same name a the program used by Symantic/Norton
antivirus to update it's virus definitions. Perhaps Microsoft is
trying to scare people into a forced upgrade to Vista instead of sticking with XP and Symantic.
[/QUOTE]
Ironically, because of Microsoft's attempt to try and pull more of it's proprietary "Own the Internet" tactics, the industry adopted Web 2.0, AJAX, and Dojo and adopted a standard version of Javascript that even Microsoft adopted in IE7 and Later. Today, most corporations have tried to get rid of IE6 specific code.
[QUOTE]
> > Almost as absurd as PassPort, the biggest security joke in the history of
> > computing -- MS style again.
Yes. Just what I always wanted to do, is put all my credit cards, passwords to banks, brokerages, and other financial institutions, into a file "protected" by
Microsoft's certificate authority. After all, they've done such a good job of protecting our computers from viruses by using the same protection schemes, how could a hacker possibly get the credit card and bank information on 6 million customers and collect $20 per person per month for nearly 2 years?
[/QUOTE]
Identity theft has become a big industry. Today, losses world-wide since 4/2007 are in the $trillions, possibly as high as $1 trillion a year in primary and secondary damages.
[QUOTE]
> > Bill loves "helping" people. What the hell! Oh yeah, yet another set of
> > lies from MS lawyers. Big Pharma Bill will help drug your kids, and
> > widows will soak you, spy on you, and in the end crash your internet.
>
> > Thanks for nothing MS.
>
> Interesting - do you have a reference for this?
He's expressing an opinion that alludes to a number of discussions
which can easily be found on this newsgroup or Google.
I'm just curious to see, in about 10 years, how many ads there will be for synthetic THC for all those baby-boomers. If they are stoned all the
time on cheap "synthetic pot", maybe they won't notice that their SSI
benefits are less than 1/3 those of their parents, or that their 401K
savings were wiped out by fund managers who thought Enron, WorldCom, and
Microsoft were really great investments. Or that the Pensions and Annuities were canceled or curtailed because the investments driving them collapsed.
Heck, maybe they'll start making it mandatory, to keep the old geezers from going violent or turning into full-time pains in the neck.
[/QUOTE]
It's hard to imagine that since this was originally posted, several states have legalized "Medical Marajuana" much of it stronger than the illegal kind. In addition, the stock market crashed, the housing market collapsed, unemployment shot up to 8% and pensions are now in Default. Even the United States government is at risk of Default.
I don't think we can blame Bill Gates or Microsoft for that, but we can see the similarities between many of the tactics used by Microsoft and the organizations that were responsible for the collapse.
We've also seen the growth of the TEA party and Occupy Wall Street.
I suspect that by the end of 2012 or the start of 2013 we will see violence and bloodshed between these factions. Maybe only for a day or two, or possibly a civil war between the cities and the rural areas.
************************************
On 9/4/06 in Re: Forbes: OEM's Suffer from Microsoft's 'Scare Tactics'
[QUOTE]
Microsoft is above the law.
There is no law.
Lawlessness prevails.
[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the kind of behavior and thinking that would lead to things like Lehman, the housing crash, and economic collapse, possibly even violence in the streets at massive levels.
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Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 12:00:00 PM2/11/12
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A little more history, just to make things interesting, one of my other predictions:
From The Linux business model and the "anti" propaganda on 6/28/1999
[quote]
I hope not. I could be wrong. It could be that we have grown tired of democracy and would rather just have Bill Gates pick the candidates from each party hand then we can just vote for the cutest. Maybe we can get another slick-willie. We certainly enjoyed MSNBC's endless coverage of the Lewinsky scandal, even to the point of impeaching a president. I'll have to admit, it was very amusing - just the thought of Ken Starr coming to congress asking for impeachement over "who touched what, and when".
In 1984, when MacIntosh was being announced, Steve Jobs did the "Big Brother" ad. Bill Gates, only a few weeks later told Byte magazine that his true aim was "World Domination", and outlined a plan to do it. What is really amusing is that he has actually implemented nearly everything he said he would do. The biggest "unexpected disruptions" were the Internet (led by a group of FSF inspired UNIX hackers), and Linux (led by a group of FSF inspired UNIX hackers).
[/quote]
We now see that MSNBC and Fox News are powerful political machines, capable of influencing elections. We also have an election where 22 billionaires and their charitable foundations and superPACs have contributed the bulk of the funding for attack ads that have turned the tide in the Republican primary several times this year.
We also saw the influence of MSNBC during the Democratic primaries in the 2008 elections. And of Fox News on the Republican primaries.
Will Rupert Murdock and Bill Gates rule the world together?
Looks promising.
From The Linux business model and the "anti" propaganda on 6/28/1999
[quote]
I hope not. I could be wrong. It could be that we have grown tired of democracy and would rather just have Bill Gates pick the candidates from each party hand then we can just vote for the cutest. Maybe we can get another slick-willie. We certainly enjoyed MSNBC's endless coverage of the Lewinsky scandal, even to the point of impeaching a president. I'll have to admit, it was very amusing - just the thought of Ken Starr coming to congress asking for impeachement over "who touched what, and when".
In 1984, when MacIntosh was being announced, Steve Jobs did the "Big Brother" ad. Bill Gates, only a few weeks later told Byte magazine that his true aim was "World Domination", and outlined a plan to do it. What is really amusing is that he has actually implemented nearly everything he said he would do. The biggest "unexpected disruptions" were the Internet (led by a group of FSF inspired UNIX hackers), and Linux (led by a group of FSF inspired UNIX hackers).
[/quote]
We now see that MSNBC and Fox News are powerful political machines, capable of influencing elections. We also have an election where 22 billionaires and their charitable foundations and superPACs have contributed the bulk of the funding for attack ads that have turned the tide in the Republican primary several times this year.
We also saw the influence of MSNBC during the Democratic primaries in the 2008 elections. And of Fox News on the Republican primaries.
Will Rupert Murdock and Bill Gates rule the world together?
Looks promising.
Chris Ahlstrom
Feb 11, 2012, 1:15:36 PM2/11/12
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Rex Ballard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
> since your profits are non-existent.
<chuckle>
--
Its not whether they are fixed or not. Its that the COLA "advocates"
assured us this sort of thing CAN NOT happen with Firefox.
-- Hadron Quark, lying shamelessly
> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
> since your profits are non-existent.
--
Its not whether they are fixed or not. Its that the COLA "advocates"
assured us this sort of thing CAN NOT happen with Firefox.
-- Hadron Quark, lying shamelessly
Foster
Feb 11, 2012, 1:17:37 PM2/11/12
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:15:36 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Rex Ballard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
>> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
>> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
>> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
>> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
>> since your profits are non-existent.
>
> <chuckle>
Slurp!
> Rex Ballard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
>> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
>> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
>> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
>> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
>> since your profits are non-existent.
>
> <chuckle>
Slurp!
Chris Ahlstrom is at it again.
Big Steel
Feb 11, 2012, 1:52:00 PM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 1:15 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Rex Ballard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
>> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
>> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
>> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
>> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
>> since your profits are non-existent.
>
> <chuckle>
>
<chuckle>
> Rex Ballard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
>> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
>> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
>> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
>> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
>> since your profits are non-existent.
>
> <chuckle>
>
He is always with the butt kiss a master at it.
Big Steel
Feb 11, 2012, 1:56:48 PM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 12:00 PM, Rex Ballard wrote:
<snipped>
Oh lord you guys have gone and set-off this long dispensing gasbag with
its Ballard gas fumes.
<snipped>
Oh lord you guys have gone and set-off this long dispensing gasbag with
its Ballard gas fumes.
Foster
Feb 11, 2012, 2:00:13 PM2/11/12
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enough gas to fill the Goodyear Blimp.
A Sinister Midget
Feb 11, 2012, 1:41:07 PM2/11/12
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On 2012-02-11, Rex Ballard <rex.b...@gmail.com> claimed:
matter: You already posted it, he can do his own legwork finding it.
--
Immortality is my short-term goal.
Acer Aspire One, Lubuntu 11.10
Friends don't let friends use Windows
> Though I didn't actually mention non-pc companies, I had suggested
> that if Linux devices were ever put on display in the retail store,
> they would be quite successful and quite profitable. The success of
> Linux powered Android, Kindle, Nook, and e-reader devices has shown
> this to be true.
Rex, you put too much effort into this. Go with your first post on the
> that if Linux devices were ever put on display in the retail store,
> they would be quite successful and quite profitable. The success of
> Linux powered Android, Kindle, Nook, and e-reader devices has shown
> this to be true.
matter: You already posted it, he can do his own legwork finding it.
--
Immortality is my short-term goal.
Acer Aspire One, Lubuntu 11.10
Friends don't let friends use Windows
DFS
Feb 11, 2012, 4:14:32 PM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 1:15 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Rex Ballard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
>> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
>> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
>> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
>> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
>> since your profits are non-existent.
>
> <chuckle>
I agree; it would be funny if it weren't so sad.
>
>> Writing for the Windows 7 API means you might be able to invest $10
>> million dollars to get your product onto retail shelves and maybe get
>> $7 million in sales before your inventory goes stale, or Microsoft
>> comes out with a competitor product, or Microsoft endorses one of your
>> competitors. AND you can just pay 25% of your off-the-top revenue,
>> since your profits are non-existent.
>
> <chuckle>
Ezekiel
Feb 11, 2012, 4:24:48 PM2/11/12
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"DFS" <nos...@dfs.com> wrote in message news:jh6lo5$27f$1...@dont-email.me...
random claims.
Equally sad is how a bunch of idiots simply believe every delusional claim
that he makes.
Foster
Feb 11, 2012, 4:34:54 PM2/11/12
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They are just supporting people like Rex and 7 because they are too
afraid to separate from the herd.
Also for some very odd reason they think stuff like that bothers us
"wintrolls" ?
Huh?
We are laughing our collective arses off watching you idiots elect a
babbling donkey boy COLA president.
It's hysterical watching you guys sabotage your own group.
DFS
Feb 11, 2012, 5:05:19 PM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 1:41 PM, A Sinister Midget wrote:
> On 2012-02-11, Rex Ballard<rex.b...@gmail.com> claimed:
>> Though I didn't actually mention non-pc companies, I had suggested
>> that if Linux devices were ever put on display in the retail store,
>> they would be quite successful and quite profitable. The success of
>> Linux powered Android, Kindle, Nook, and e-reader devices has shown
>> this to be true.
>
> Rex, you put too much effort into this. Go with your first post on the
> matter: You already posted it, he can do his own legwork finding it.
It can't be found, Gidget; that's the whole point of the exercise.
> On 2012-02-11, Rex Ballard<rex.b...@gmail.com> claimed:
>> Though I didn't actually mention non-pc companies, I had suggested
>> that if Linux devices were ever put on display in the retail store,
>> they would be quite successful and quite profitable. The success of
>> Linux powered Android, Kindle, Nook, and e-reader devices has shown
>> this to be true.
>
> Rex, you put too much effort into this. Go with your first post on the
> matter: You already posted it, he can do his own legwork finding it.
Rex Ballard
Feb 11, 2012, 11:29:14 PM2/11/12
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DFS gave me such a nice inviting opening - big enough to drive a truck through it. So I loaded up a convoy and drove the whole thing through.
I have about 8,000 postings on COLA from 1997 to present, and another 8,000 on a mailing list exclusively for online publishers from 1993 to 1999. This list grew from about 50 subscribers when I first joined it to over 8,000 subscribers, many of whom asked questions about how to put their content online, on the web, and do it on a shoestring budget, since their parent companies didn't want to foot the bills. Several become separate corporations with funny names like Yahoo, Google, ZDNet, C/NET, and Wired. A small portion of that is on my Open4Success Website.
Unfortunately, with such a volume of writing, it is hard to remember exactly what was said and exactly when.
I also regularly posted on usenet as far back as 1984, however, there were very few of those articles archived, because even computer tape was very expensive back in those days. 30 days worth of the technical groups took up 1 tape, and even that was $150 per tape. At a time when programmers made about $35,000 a year.
The net.legal group, where the General Public License, which later became the GNU Public License (GNU was a project to create a UNIX work-alike in all GPL code) was not included in most archives. There are a few cross-posts of discussions between me and Richard Stallman during the bison license debate, but unfortunately, the discussions between me and Richard and the other 40 lawyers and other participants didn't make it to the Google Archive. Too bad, it would have been great history.
I have about 8,000 postings on COLA from 1997 to present, and another 8,000 on a mailing list exclusively for online publishers from 1993 to 1999. This list grew from about 50 subscribers when I first joined it to over 8,000 subscribers, many of whom asked questions about how to put their content online, on the web, and do it on a shoestring budget, since their parent companies didn't want to foot the bills. Several become separate corporations with funny names like Yahoo, Google, ZDNet, C/NET, and Wired. A small portion of that is on my Open4Success Website.
Unfortunately, with such a volume of writing, it is hard to remember exactly what was said and exactly when.
I also regularly posted on usenet as far back as 1984, however, there were very few of those articles archived, because even computer tape was very expensive back in those days. 30 days worth of the technical groups took up 1 tape, and even that was $150 per tape. At a time when programmers made about $35,000 a year.
The net.legal group, where the General Public License, which later became the GNU Public License (GNU was a project to create a UNIX work-alike in all GPL code) was not included in most archives. There are a few cross-posts of discussions between me and Richard Stallman during the bison license debate, but unfortunately, the discussions between me and Richard and the other 40 lawyers and other participants didn't make it to the Google Archive. Too bad, it would have been great history.
DFS
Feb 12, 2012, 12:48:56 AM2/12/12
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On 2/11/2012 11:29 PM, Rex Ballard wrote:
> DFS gave me such a nice inviting opening - big enough to drive a
> truck through it. So I loaded up a convoy and drove the whole thing
> through.
Then your convoy ran over a huge IED labeled 'TRUTH' and it was destroyed.
> DFS gave me such a nice inviting opening - big enough to drive a
> truck through it. So I loaded up a convoy and drove the whole thing
> through.
> I have about 8,000 postings on COLA from 1997 to present, and another
> 8,000 on a mailing list exclusively for online publishers from 1993
> to 1999. This list grew from about 50 subscribers when I first
> joined it to over 8,000 subscribers, many of whom asked questions
> about how to put their content online, on the web, and do it on a
> shoestring budget, since their parent companies didn't want to foot
> the bills. Several become separate corporations with funny names
> like Yahoo, Google, ZDNet, C/NET, and Wired.
"Now, suppose that 100 or 200 of those "lurkers" started posting their
results, and started asking questions as to how to take it to the next
level? They have really funny names like Yahoo, Amazon, and Lycos.
At first, these are unheard of names, but before long, they became
huge names."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0f5b76503b9a2885?hl=en
What a hoot!
> A small portion of that
> is on my Open4Success Website.
>
> Unfortunately, with such a volume of writing, it is hard to remember
> exactly what was said and exactly when.
you, Rexford.
By claiming you "suggested the "Microsoft monopoly" would be broken by
companies not known for PCs" you want to be seen as an IT Visionary.
Maybe you did say that, but so far after many requests you can't provide
evidence you did.
> I also regularly posted on usenet as far back as 1984, however, there
> were very few of those articles archived, because even computer tape
> was very expensive back in those days. 30 days worth of the
> technical groups took up 1 tape, and even that was $150 per tape. At
> a time when programmers made about $35,000 a year.
> The net.legal group, where the General Public License, which later
> became the GNU Public License (GNU was a project to create a UNIX
> work-alike in all GPL code) was not included in most archives. There
> are a few cross-posts of discussions between me and Richard Stallman
> during the bison license debate, but unfortunately, the discussions
> between me and Richard and the other 40 lawyers and other
> participants didn't make it to the Google Archive. Too bad, it would
> have been great history.
ludicrous claims, such as "As we reviewed the goals, we drafted the
language for what was first known as the "General Public License". A bit
later, Richard Stallman formed the GNU project and renamed it the GNU
Public License."
http://linux.sys-con.com/node/48833#feedback
Big Steel
Feb 12, 2012, 5:04:22 AM2/12/12
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On 2/11/2012 11:29 PM, Rex Ballard wrote:
<snipped>
Ballard shut the hell up and take a pill no one cares.
Foster
Feb 12, 2012, 10:41:56 AM2/12/12
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:29:14 -0800 (PST), Rex Ballard wrote:
> DFS gave me such a nice inviting opening - big enough to drive a
> truck through it. So I loaded up a convoy and drove the whole
> thing through.
The blue pill is in the little brown bottle.
> DFS gave me such a nice inviting opening - big enough to drive a
> truck through it. So I loaded up a convoy and drove the whole
> thing through.
I suggest you take 2 of them.
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