>>
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/faq.xml
Will the gentoo installer configure my such and such hardware for me?
No. The installer will only do what is covered in the install guide. The
only thing that may be configured for you is xorg. When the LiveCD boots
into X, a xorg.conf is automatically generated. If you choose xorg-x11 (or
anything that depends on it) as an extra package to install,
the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the LiveCD will be automatically copied into
your new install.
<<
I presume that the installer will auto-detect your hardware, provide you
with defaults, then allow you to modify those default values?
This is interesting too.
>>
What's wrong with the current installation method?
Absolutely nothing. The goal of the installer is to make installations
faster, not easier. The original intention was to make an installer for
doing automated deployments. While we still have this in mind, the end user
aspect took precedence (mainly because it's prettier).
<<
So does anyone find it easier because it is a Graphical Installer (even if
it's not their original intention)?
Regards,
M
Here's a review of it:
http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/31/1/
Seems it ain't quite ready for prime time yet.
I have done installs from stage 1 ... though most of the time I do a stage 3
install to save time (I did a stage 1 on an old pentium 166 laptop ... took
7 days to complete the base install !!!)
It is good to get a base installation setup without having to sit in front
of the console waiting to start the next phase of the install.
I can start it and walk away.
Though if you normally customize the install you will not use the GUI
Installer.
I would only recommend this to those experienced Gentoo users that are doing
multiple workstation installs and want to reduce time.
M wrote:
--
Living on Earth may be expensive,
but it includes an annual free trip around the sun.
www.oyamaphotography.com
Thanks, excellent site.
I shall watch this with interest.
Regards,
M
> I have tried it and it is OK.
>
> I have done installs from stage 1 ... though most of the time I do a stage
> 3 install to save time (I did a stage 1 on an old pentium 166 laptop ...
> took 7 days to complete the base install !!!)
>
Ohhh I couldn't be doing with an install that took that long, if for no
other reason than the fans in the computer would keep me awake.
> It is good to get a base installation setup without having to sit in front
> of the console waiting to start the next phase of the install.
> I can start it and walk away.
> Though if you normally customize the install you will not use the GUI
> Installer.
>
>
> I would only recommend this to those experienced Gentoo users that are
> doing multiple workstation installs and want to reduce time.
>
>
Kind of rules me out, given that I am not an 'experienced' linux user yet,
nor am I a Gentoo user. Having said that this distribution does interest
me, and I watch the developments with interest.
Regards,
M
HEY ROY... why didn't you ever answer my question from the other thread
you coward. You were wrong so you simply ran away!!!! Where is your
proof that this is flatfish and that he is a racist homophobe.
Oh... that's right. It's okay for someone who posts "windoze" to call
people a racist or a homophobe and they don't need to offer proof at
all. Meanwhile, I do have proof do back my claim but a hypocrite like
isn't interested in facts are you Roy????
( From the "Linux? What's that? My own survey" thread )
-> You called Peter a racist and homophobe when there is absolutely
-> zero evidence for this. Sorry Larry, you are an arsehole.
Here's your evidence.
Thread: Why Photoshop tops most-wanted Linux app list
Date: Tues, Feb 14 2006
Time: 7:41 pm
Author: Kohllman
Quote - "Is Larry good in bed, Lefty? You two seem to get along awfully
well."
It is certainly an attempt to insult Lefty and me by labeling us as
being gay. Most people would call that being a homophobe.
->You truly are an arshole. Flatfish has shown itself to be racist and
->a homophobe on numerous occasions even when posting as flatfish.
I just showed you my proof. Where is your proof that Flatfish is a
racist and homophobe? I don't see any. I also don't see any proof that
this poster is Flatfish. The name I see is Thorsten Thigpen. Seems that
it's simply easier for your to label him as flatfish because you don't
like the content of his post. But I see zero proof that this person who
Peter just called a racist, liar and thief is flatfish. Or do you
simply assume guilty until proven innocent?
It is you Roy who's being the asshole here. Stop being a spineless
jelly-fish and grow a backbone. The only reason you're backing Peter is
because he happens to use the same OS as you. It has nothing to do with
the actual merits of this issue.
Here's your apology - Kiss my ASS.
>
> > why didn't you ever answer my question from the other thread you
> > coward.
>
> Ever see a chameleon on plaid?
No but I see a coward and a hypocrite named Roy Culley.
> > You were wrong so you simply ran away!!!! Where is your proof that
> > this is flatfish and that he is a racist homophobe.
>
> Have you been looking for my proof that that is flatfish?
I'm looking for some sort of proof that you are not a hypocrite. The
more I look the more I see that you are a pathetic little hypocrite.
> > Oh.
>
> Oh ye of little faith.
>
> > that's right.
>
> That's another nail out of your coffin.
Nails... coffin... I guess anything to change the subject. Not that I
blame you because the truth isn't very comfortable to a hypocrite like
you.
> > It's okay for someone who posts "windoze" to call people a racist or a
> > homophobe and they don't need to offer proof at all.
>
> It's a vicious culture. Anyone who is at all different is just smashed.
So you do admit to being a HYPOCRITE.
> > Meanwhile, I do have proof do back my claim but a hypocrite like isn't
> > interested in facts are you Roy????
>
> I assumed you did.
And I (wrongly) assumed that you had a shred of moral fiber. I was
wrong... you are nothing but a pathetic hypocrite.
> > ( From the "Linux? What's that? My own survey" thread ).
>
> That's a question, you fucking moron.
The real question is why are you such a lying hypocrite.
> > -> You called Peter a racist and homophobe when there is absolutely ->
> > zero evidence for this.
>
> I guess I'll have to trust you on that.
>
> > Sorry Larry, you are an arsehole.
>
> And you, Qualig, are a(n) travelling repairman.
I would gladly be a traveling repairman that a lying hypocrite like
you.
> > Here's your evidence.
>
> My karma ran over my dogma.
That's nice but you are still a hypocrite.
> > Thread: Why Photoshop tops most-wanted Linux app list Date: Tues, Feb
> > 14 2006 Time: 7:41 pm Author: Kohllman Quote - "Is Larry good in bed,
> > Lefty? You two seem to get along awfully well".
>
> LITS! Please add me to the LITS O' HAET!
What if I add you to the hypocrite list where you belong.
> > It is certainly an attempt to insult Lefty and me by labeling us as
> > being gay.
>
> It's an acquired taste.
But being a lying hypocrite shows that you have no taste or class.
> > Most people would call that being a homophobe.
>
> People don't want to know.
But now everyone knows that you are a lying hypocrite.
> > ->You truly are an arshole.
>
> You can't buy affection except maybe at pet stores.
And hypocrites like you can't buy a shred of dignitiy.
> > is it possible to get pregnant or come close to that if there is two
> > or three layers of clothing between two people???
>
> It could be worse. You might have had to go to the doctor and get a
> huge, stinking, rotting lump of flesh removed from the neck up.
Sound like a good description of yourself... a huge, stinking, rotting
lump of flesh. Add in the word "hypocrite" and it's a perfect
description of Roy Culley.
> > Flatfish has shown itself to be racist and ->a homophobe on numerous
> > occasions even when posting as flatfish.
>
> Are you posting now?
Are you still a lying hypocrite?
> > I just showed you my proof.
>
> Fat lot of good it did.
Then you are obviously a stupid hypocrite to boot.
> > Where is your proof that Flatfish is a racist and homophobe? I don't
> > see any.
>
> You can't find my proof that flatfish is a racist?
I can't find proof that you're IQ is larger than your shoe size.
> > I also don't see any proof that this poster is Flatfish.
>
> I can't see any proof that that poster is flatfish. I don't have eyes.
Nor do you have a brain.
> > The name I see is Thorsten Thigpen.
>
> I can't see is thorsten thigpen. I don't have eyes.
Or class, or morals or a brain.
> > Seems that.
>
> That remark is absurd.
So is the crap you post you fucking hypocrite.
> > it's simply easier for your to label him as flatfish because you don't
> > like the content of his post.
>
> It's not nice to talk like that.
I'm only talking to a pathetic hypocrite named Roy Culley. I will damn
say whatever I want to say.
> > But I see zero proof that this person who.
>
> Who died and made you queen?
More useless crap from a pathetic hypocrite who supports his homophobe
buddy.
> > Peter just called a racist, liar and thief is flatfish.
>
> Can you prove that, Qualig?
Learn to read you stupid hypocrite.
> > Or do you simply assume guilty until proven innocent?
>
> I don't let my conscience push me around.
Obviously you don't let facts get in your way either.
> > It is you Roy who's being the asshole here.
>
> MISTER Arsehole, to you.
Arsehole??? That really means a lot to me coming from an ASSHOLE
HYPOCRITE named Roy Culley.
> > Stop being a spineless jelly-fish and grow a backbone.
>
> And I thought your family could sink no lower.
My family wipes it's feet on asshole hypocrites like the Culleys.
> > The only reason you're backing Peter is because he happens to use the
> > same OS as you.
>
> If you need a reason, blame your parents.
What's your excuse for being a hypocrite?
> > It has nothing to do with the actual merits of this issue.
>
> It was a lot of fun.
It doesn't take much to amuse an idiot.
You whore.
>
> > No but I see a coward and a hypocrite named Roy Culley.
>
> You saw that movie, didn't you?
I can read. I leave the movies for morons like you.
> > I'm looking for some sort of proof that you are not a hypocrite.
>
> I'm just asking a question and trying to determine what I'm doing wrong
> that may be causing the pain.
Jump off a ledge and your pain will go away.
> > The more I look the more I see that you are a pathetic little
> > hypocrite.
>
> You petty, cut out elephant. You repugnant, stroppy honkie. You inbred,
> pinch-spotted clack-dish.
Sounds like you're having a mental break-down. Everyone suspects that
you're unstable.
> > Nails.
>
> What do you expect?
The truth would be nice.
> > I'm not loafing. I'm doing research on inertia.
>
> How bizarre.
Why you would choose to be a hypocrite is bizzare.
> > coffin.
>
> It's just like anything else.
So everyone in your family is a hypocrite?
> > Why do I lie about my education achievements?
>
> Yes, Qualig, you need encouragement and support. You have issues; it
> shows.
You are a hypocrite. And it has been proven.
> > I guess anything to change the subject.
>
> You're a bad girl.
You are a pathetic hypocrite.
> > Not that I blame you because the truth isn't very comfortable to a
> > hypocrite like you.
>
> Who is to blame?
Your whore mother is to blame for you being a lying hypocrite.
> > So you do admit to being a HYPOCRITE.
>
> I know what you're thinking.
Don't kid yourself.... You don't know shit.
> > And I (wrongly) assumed that you had a shred of moral fiber.
>
> You have to watch what you say around me. I have no sense of humour.
You have on brains either you lying hypocrite. But that doesn't stop
you from posting.
> > I was wrong.
>
> So sue me.
I don't need the money.
> > you are nothing but a pathetic hypocrite.
>
> I'm secretly ironic.
You're publically a lying hypocrite too.
> > The real question is why are you such a lying hypocrite.
>
> Ask a different stupid question.
Kiss my ass first.
> > I would gladly be a traveling repairman that a lying hypocrite like
> > you.
>
> I don't like it when you pluck your eyebrows like that.
I could care less what you like.
> > That's nice but you are still a hypocrite.
>
> I'm glad we don't own a petrol station together. You'd be a terrible
> partner.
I'm sure you would make an excellent prison bitch.
> > What if I add you to the hypocrite list where you belong.
>
> LITS! Please add me to the LITS O' HAET!
Fine, but you are still a lying hypocrite.
> > But being a lying hypocrite shows that you have no taste or class.
>
> That is a failed attempt to cut short an argument because you feel
> threatened.
I have nothing to fear from cowards like you.
> > But now everyone knows that you are a lying hypocrite.
>
> You peevish, dysfunctional ham sandwich. You stoloniferous, excuse for a
> second-rate fluff. You colourless, outlandish cocksucker.
"Cocksucker" - So besides being a hypocrite you are also a homophobe.
(I just added it to the subject line.)
>
> > And hypocrites like you can't buy a shred of dignitiy.
>
> you cannot post 24/7/365
Yet you manage to be a lying homophobic hypocrit 24/7/365. What's your
secret?
> > Sound like a good description of yourself.
>
> Good try. [Presuming you were up to no good]
>
> > a huge, stinking, rotting lump of flesh.
>
> How much can someone do?
Why are you a homophobe? Did daddy not give you enough attention as a
child.
> > Add in the word "hypocrite" and it's a perfect description of Roy
> > Culley.
>
> It takes two to tangle.
You are a homophobe.
Roy Culley - First a pathetic lying hypocrite. Now a self-admitted
homophobe.
Gee Roy, you must have "accidently" snipped out the part where you
proved that you are a homophobe.
***plonk***
I have better things to do with my time than to waste it on lying
homophobes like you.
Are you sure that's really Roy, and not someone forging? The way his
messages are encoded is different from the way Roy's are usually encoded.
--
--Tim Smith
Don't expect *that* capability from Mag-ID Larry
You have to type very little words extremely slowly, otherwise he can't read
them
--
Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of
old ones.
On 11 Mar 2006 19:50:01 -0800,
I would have thought that after the last time you got a little confused
about headers, that you'd be more careful about them.
Hint, just because it *says* it's Roy, doesn't make it so.
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--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done
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Naziboi.
> On 11 Mar 2006 19:50:01 -0800, Larry Qualig
> <lqu...@uku.co.uk> wrote:.
If you wait that long.
> I would have thought that after the last time you got a little
> confused about headers, that you'd be more careful about them.
I would? How, exactly, would I be more careful about them, Richardson?
> Hint, just because it *says* it's Roy, doesn't make it so.
It's in the toilet.
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> 4.
4?
> 2.
2?
> 1 (GNU/Linux).
1?
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Glad to see you grew out of it.
> Ive been pushing my mum to let me have a sleepover for ages and
> yesterday she just blew! she told me all this stuff about my dad: that
> hes an alcaholic and suffers from depression. Hes so messed up and i
> want to help him. But should I, he was never their for me as a child,
> he left it all to my mum but i think he needs to be loved. My mum is
> so difficult. Help!
You should be more concerned about being unable to control your bodily
functions.
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I'm positive it's not Roy, it's almost certainly the usual twat that
forges posters like this to wind up the unwary - Larry's fallen for it,
unfortunately.
--
Kier
He has not "unfortunately" fallen for it. He "naturally" fell for it. Given
Msg-ID Larrys complete inability to read even the simplest of headers and
add to that his inbred stupidity, he would naturally also fail to detect
when suddenly a poster changes tone completely
--
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
stupidity of your action.
I could care less about headers. Thy lying hypocrite is the **ROY**
that posted his weekly COLA stats. Those were not forged.
> Hint, just because it *says* it's Roy, doesn't make it so.
That's nice but it doesn't change the fact that the *original* COLA
stats were written by that lying hypocrite. That piece of shit labels
me as an 'arsehole' but refuses to hold himself and Trollman to the
same standard. He wants to call me an arsehole, I'll give him an
arsehole.
Except that all the other crap you replied to was written by a forger.
Come on, Larry, cool down, take a step back and chill out.
--
Kier
The other stuff most likely was written by a forger. A good night's
sleep is more than enough to cool me off. This morning I'm certainly
not the same raging drunk that I was last night. Thanks... I'm now
cooled off.
>
> Kier wrote:
>>
>> Except that all the other crap you replied to was written by a forger.
>> Come on, Larry, cool down, take a step back and chill out.
>
> The other stuff most likely was written by a forger. A good night's
> sleep is more than enough to cool me off. This morning I'm certainly
> not the same raging drunk that I was last night. Thanks... I'm now
> cooled off.
Glad to hear it :-)
--
Kier
And I don't buy a word of that crap
Even drunk to the hilt nobody I know would change that much as you did
You also must have been drunk for hours to pull of that much garbage
Nope, Msg-ID Larry simply *is* that gigantic asshole he was perceived from
day one.
You've blown it, Larry. Nothing you could do would change my mind now. It
would take several month before I would even consider that you *might*
change your ways
--
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them
to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
> Has anyone given the Gentoo Graphical Installer a try, and if so what did
> you think of it?
>
>>>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/faq.xml
>
> Will the gentoo installer configure my such and such hardware for me?
>
> No. The installer will only do what is covered in the install guide. The
> only thing that may be configured for you is xorg. When the LiveCD boots
> into X, a xorg.conf is automatically generated. If you choose xorg-x11 (or
> anything that depends on it) as an extra package to install,
> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the LiveCD will be automatically copied into
> your new install.
> <<
>
> I presume that the installer will auto-detect your hardware, provide you
> with defaults, then allow you to modify those default values?
>
> This is interesting too.
>
>>>
> What's wrong with the current installation method?
>
> Absolutely nothing. The goal of the installer is to make installations
> faster, not easier. The original intention was to make an installer for
> doing automated deployments. While we still have this in mind, the end
> user aspect took precedence (mainly because it's prettier).
> <<
>
> So does anyone find it easier because it is a Graphical Installer (even if
> it's not their original intention)?
I installed RR4Linux using the CD install method of installing what was on
the CD, and it installed Gentoo just fine. However, I just don't like all
that compiling going on to install/update. I prefer a binary based system
like Kubuntu.