Really, for the last time, what Linux Distro for 8K of ram?
Psyc Geek (TAB)
Ben
> Anybody got any idea's?
8K Ram... Is that a joke?
Andrew Halliwell
Duuuuh :)
I imagine even lunix requires the full 64k of the commode.
Possibly even more, I've not looked into it but I know the commode has
various hardware expansions to boost its cpu and memory.
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TAB's the joke.
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> Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:
>> Anybody got any idea's?
>
> 8K Ram... Is that a joke?
Either he meant 8M RAM, which is barely doable (and would
probably require a fair amount of custom work on another
machine), or he's out to lunch, as the first PC's (the
5150) had 64k RAM anyway.
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>Ben <beno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:
>>> Anybody got any idea's?
>>
>> 8K Ram... Is that a joke?
>Duuuuh :)
>I imagine even lunix requires the full 64k of the commode.
>Possibly even more, I've not looked into it but I know the commode has
>various hardware expansions to boost its cpu and memory.
I've heard of linux running on a smartcard creditcard. It had more than 8K.
Why don't you build the most basic kernel you can configure and find out for
yourself instead of asking further idiotic questions? Most of us who have a
budget greater than a seventyeth of a penny really don't give a flying fuck
if linux will run in 8K. With Linux and OSS you can generate a program
that'll run in 8K; would that be good enough?
ray
> Anybody got any idea's?
Yeah, but what kind on computer do you have with only 8k of ram - my old
Commodore 64 has (as it's name implies) 64k. So do you have a timex
sinclair?
Hadron
Isn't that what you used to run your "advanced scientific applications"
on Ray. Or was that the Colossus? :-)
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Andrew Halliwell
Could've been a vic 20. That only had a basic RAM of 3.5k before expansion.
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took at least 200k. Then they introduced the new "make bzImage" in order to
allow the kernel to expand after compression into more than 512k.
(before then, that was the limit).
I very much doubt many of the modules will fit in 8. Even some of the
simpler ones like parallel port drivers take up more than that. On mine, 1
takes just over 8, the others are between 10k and 45k.
So, I repeat to the question "is this a joke?"
Duuuuuh.
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ray
> ray <r...@zianet.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51:31 -0700, Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody got any idea's?
>>
>> Yeah, but what kind on computer do you have with only 8k of ram - my
>> old Commodore 64 has (as it's name implies) 64k. So do you have a timex
>> sinclair?
>
> Isn't that what you used to run your "advanced scientific applications"
> on Ray. Or was that the Colossus? :-)
As a matter of fact, I did some 'scientific applications' on it. At home
on my own time. If you look back, you'll see a number of articles in
"Comal Today". But at work, I did them on: IBM DCS, Univac 1100, PDP 11,
Vax VMS, DECStation 5000, DEC Alpha, and DELL dual Xeon.
Darth Chaos
Yeah, but computers like the Commodore 64 ran on entirely different
hardware. The C64 ran on a Motorola 6502 CPU at like 1.79 MHz. To
convert Linux to the C64, the Linux kernel would have to be written in
6502 assembly code (aka "machine language"). I figure the only older
computer which could possibly handle any version of Linux would be the
Apple II which could handle up to 4 MB RAM. Of course the Apple II has
the same slow-as-molasses Motorola 6502 as the CPU, so the Linux
kernel would have to be written in assembley code. And I guess the
Apple IIgs could handle it even better (faster CPU, more memory,
internal HD), but I figure the only window manager doable on there
would be Fluxbox.
Andrew Halliwell
> On Jul 21, 10:09 pm, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51:31 -0700, Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:
>> > Anybody got any idea's?
>>
>> Yeah, but what kind on computer do you have with only 8k of ram - my old
>> Commodore 64 has (as it's name implies) 64k. So do you have a timex
>> sinclair?
>
> Yeah, but computers like the Commodore 64 ran on entirely different
> hardware. The C64 ran on a Motorola 6502 CPU at like 1.79 MHz.
Was it Motorola? I thought 6502 were made by inmos. After checking...
Nearly right... It was MOS Technology.
> computer which could possibly handle any version of Linux would be the
> Apple II which could handle up to 4 MB RAM. Of course the Apple II has
> the same slow-as-molasses Motorola 6502 as the CPU, so the Linux
> kernel would have to be written in assembley code. And I guess the
> Apple IIgs could handle it even better (faster CPU, more memory,
> internal HD), but I figure the only window manager doable on there
> would be Fluxbox.
There're window managers even less memory hungry than fluxbox y'know.
IceWM, blackbox, fvwm, ctwm and twm to name but 5.
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> There're window managers even less memory hungry than fluxbox y'know.
> IceWM, blackbox, fvwm, ctwm and twm to name but 5.
The one with the smallest footprint that I've found so far, is the ultra
-minimalist tiling window manager dwm, mandated to never exceed 2000
lines of code:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwm
Personally I rather like OpenBox:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox
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>Yeah, but computers like the Commodore 64 ran on entirely different
>hardware. The C64 ran on a Motorola 6502 CPU at like 1.79 MHz
6510!
"The most common types, the 6502 and 6510 processors, are basicly the
same and share the same instruction tables. (The 6510 varies from 6502
only in the implementation of 6 I/O ports at addresses 0000 and
0001.)"
alt
Altair 8800?