[Rival] Microsoft Financials
Robin T Cox
<quote>
At present I believe that it's virtually impossible for Microsoft to run a
loss this year. I also believe that the final Net Income numbers will have
many corporate executives drooling with envy. The problem is 2010. At
present we don't even know if we'll have an economy in 2010. Assuming that
the projected "recovery" really happens this fall, what form will it take?
Will it be a jobless recovery? If it is, Microsoft is one of the companies
who is likeliest to suffer. Businesses won't replace hardware, the primary
driver for OS and Office sales, and will look to Free (as in speech)
Software to handle more functions where they might have used a Microsoft
solution before. Consumers will attempt a variety of life extension
routines on existing computers, which won't include installing Windows 7. A
lot of units are going to end up being converted to run Linux as viruses
continue to run rampant through the Windows ecosystem, especially "average
user" computers. Gamers of course will continue running Windows.
</quote>
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chrisv
I think M$ will get a "bounce" from Win7. People have been waiting a
*very* long time for a new, non-shitty, OS from them...
amicus_curious
"Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
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It is a real surprise to learn that all the analysts at all the major and
minor brokerage houses managed to miss this! How can it be that all these
high-paid folk are shown to be utter buffoons by the Cranky Old Nutcase? I
hope that the people who are paying the ridiculous salaries for these
so-called experts read this and take appropriate action. Thank God the
Nutcase got the word out in time for some of us to salvage our investments!
Thanky-you, Cranky!
Ben
From the people I know who have tried Win 7 beta I've heard mixed
reviews. Some people like it, a lot think it's nothing new and just a
repackaged Vista.
I'm in the second camp.
7
I used to be a coder using micoshaft, and I can tell you nothing would
have changed.
Windump Latest * is just another paint job.
They cannot change its internal without breaking everything under the sun.
So in no time all the anti-viruses, viruses, trojans, botnets, spyware,
keyloggers, malware, adware, and ransomware will be working flat out on the
new OSen. This time trying their hand on netbooks and taking those netbooks
to an absolute crawl within hours.
It will become a dismal failure for retailers stock piling windump netbooks
or customers trying to buy windump machines with the latest OS thinking
they are getting something new and shiny that can last more than a week.
Ben
Yeah, and anyone who's done any low-level programming in Windows knows
the WinAPI is a complete mess, too. .NET and visual C++ aren't going to
change how much of a nightmare the low-level components of the OS are.
Ezekiel
"Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
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> http://crankyoldnutcase.blogspot.com/2009/07/microsoft-financials.html
How pathetically desperate are you freetards that your lame 'appeal to
authority' is a blog entry from "CrankyOldNutCase."
Is this the best you can do Rafael?
DFS
> I used to be a coder using micoshaft, and I can tell you nothing would
> have changed.
>
> Windump Latest * is just another paint job.
>
> They cannot change its internal without breaking everything under the
> sun. So in no time all the anti-viruses, viruses, trojans, botnets,
> spyware, keyloggers, malware, adware, and ransomware will be working
> flat out on the new OSen. This time trying their hand on netbooks and
> taking those netbooks to an absolute crawl within hours.
>
> It will become a dismal failure for retailers stock piling windump
> netbooks or customers trying to buy windump machines with the latest
> OS thinking they are getting something new and shiny that can last
> more than a week.
You're just ridiculous every time you open that piehole.
Vista, despite it's bad reputation among some, gained 24% install share
within two years of being released. Linux stayed under 1%, of course.
Win7 will be a huge seller. 83% of businesses are already planning to move
to desktop Windows 7 within three years.
Notably, 0.0001% of businesses - if that many - are planning to adopt
desktop Linux within three decades (what's wrong with that free shitware?)
Ezekiel
"Ben" <beno...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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This would exclude you then.
> the WinAPI is a complete mess, too. .NET and visual C++ aren't going to
> change how much of a nightmare the low-level components of the OS are.
Anyone who's done any low-level programming in Linux knows what a complete
mess their API's are.
Look!!! I can also make stupid statements without supplying so much as a
single example to substantiate my claim.
Ben
Not really, no. I bet it'd exclude you, though. ;)
>
>
>> the WinAPI is a complete mess, too. .NET and visual C++ aren't going to
>> change how much of a nightmare the low-level components of the OS are.
>
> Anyone who's done any low-level programming in Linux knows what a complete
> mess their API's are.
Not nearly as much as the Windows APIs. They still haven't tidied their
crap since the merge of the DOS based 9x line into NT.
>
> Look!!! I can also make stupid statements without supplying so much as a
> single example to substantiate my claim.
>
No, you just do it as standard.
Ezekiel
Well if you want to talk about technical issues then bring it on chump. I
bet you'll be doing a lot of google-ing to show your knowledge.
>>
>>> the WinAPI is a complete mess, too. .NET and visual C++ aren't going to
>>> change how much of a nightmare the low-level components of the OS are.
>>
>> Anyone who's done any low-level programming in Linux knows what a
>> complete mess their API's are.
>
> Not nearly as much as the Windows APIs. They still haven't tidied their
> crap since the merge of the DOS based 9x line into NT.
And once again you don't have a single example to support your earlier
claim.
>>
>> Look!!! I can also make stupid statements without supplying so much as
>> a single example to substantiate my claim.
>>
>
> No, you just do it as standard.
<quote>
Yeah, and anyone who's done any low-level programming in Windows knows
the WinAPI is a complete mess, too. .NET and visual C++ aren't going to ...
</quote>
#1 - You have yet to supply a single example of how the Win API is a
"complete mess." Better get Googling to find some obscure tidbit that you
can try to post as your own knowledge.
#2 - Visual C++ is a product - a C++ programming language. The C++
programming language has absolutely zero to do with the Windows API.
Idiot.
Ben
I bet that'd make you feel like you've got a big cock.
>
> #1 - You have yet to supply a single example of how the Win API is a
> "complete mess." Better get Googling to find some obscure tidbit that you
> can try to post as your own knowledge.
I don't need to, I'm God; and besides, it's a long time since I stopped
using that mess.
>
> #2 - Visual C++ is a product - a C++ programming language. The C++
> programming language has absolutely zero to do with the Windows API.
>
> Idiot.
>
>
>
You obviously missed my point with that one.
Ezekiel
Your homosexual tendencies have nothing to do with the fact that you were
simply spouting BS. The fact is that you have absolutely nothing to backup
your claim and by now you've tried searching the web for something...
anything to support your claim and you couldn't find a single thing.
Instead of manning up, your nym "Ben" decides to thread-slink and start
talking about things he likes to suck on.
>>
>> #1 - You have yet to supply a single example of how the Win API is a
>> "complete mess." Better get Googling to find some obscure tidbit that
>> you can try to post as your own knowledge.
>
> I don't need to, I'm God; and besides, it's a long time since I stopped
> using that mess.
>
>>
>> #2 - Visual C++ is a product - a C++ programming language. The C++
>> programming language has absolutely zero to do with the Windows API.
>>
>> Idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You obviously missed my point with that one.
You have no point. You're a clueless idiot who thinks that a programming
language like C++ has something to do with the Windows API which you claim
is a "complete mess" but even Google can't help you find anything to
support your moronic statement.
amicus_curious
"Ezekiel" <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>
>>>> the WinAPI is a complete mess, too. .NET and visual C++ aren't going to
>>>> change how much of a nightmare the low-level components of the OS are.
>>>
>>> Anyone who's done any low-level programming in Linux knows what a
>>> complete mess their API's are.
>>
>> Not nearly as much as the Windows APIs. They still haven't tidied their
>> crap since the merge of the DOS based 9x line into NT.
>
> And once again you don't have a single example to support your earlier
> claim.
>
include any specific zingers to fortify his claims. One curiosity being
ignored here is the veiled cry for respect that anyone with a technical
occupation seems to present to the world at large as a justification of
their existence. Just as air controllers tell of the horrible stress related
to moving little bits of glow around a planar display, programmers speak of
the distress they encounter in having to work around the obvious
deficiencies of the operating system or compiler or assembler or whatnot.
It makes them sound both mysterious and as being dedicated toilers barely
keeping the wheels going around in the world by dint of their tireless
efforts. Or so they think, not realizing that the real road to success is
the trite but true "Work smarter, not harder". Using C# or even VC++ system
libraries such as provided with Visual Studio.NET obviates the need for
dabbling with APIs directly and lets one concentrate on making the program
do something useful beyond simply compiling clean.
DFS
> One
> curiosity being ignored here is the veiled cry for respect that
> anyone with a technical occupation seems to present to the world at
> large as a justification of their existence.
Everyone wants to be l33t...
Hans Lister
> I don't need to, I'm God; and besides, it's a long time since I stopped
> using that mess.
You can't be God.
Roy Schestowitz is God, Jesus Christ, Mary and Satan all rolled
into one.
Literally.
Ben
You left out the holy spirit.
That's the bit that I am. The bit that sets people on fire and makes
them speak in tongues.
Ben
> You have no point. You're a clueless idiot who thinks that a programming
> language like C++ has something to do with the Windows API which you claim
> is a "complete mess" but even Google can't help you find anything to
> support your moronic statement.
>
>
Visual C++ can be used to develop Win32 applications, can it not?
I'm pretty sure Visual C++ can exploit WinAPI.
Hans Lister
MiniWitz (Chris Ahlstrom) is the Holy Spirit.
Ezekiel
> Ezekiel wrote:
>> You have no point. You're a clueless idiot who thinks that a programming
>> language like C++ has something to do with the Windows API which you
>> claim is a "complete mess" but even Google can't help you find anything
>> to support your moronic statement.
>>
>>
>
> Visual C++ can be used to develop Win32 applications, can it not?
In exactly the same way that gcc and the Intel compiler can be used to
develop Win32 applications. Since you're very stupid - this has absolutly
zero to do with your idiotic claim that the Windows API is a complete mess.
Your idiot logic - The Windows API is a complete mess and my "proof" is
that Visual C++ can be used to write Windows apps.
> I'm pretty sure Visual C++ can exploit WinAPI.
I'm absolutely certain that you're clueless.
Ezekiel
"Hans Lister" <stym...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I always saw Miniwitz as the little sheep(le) that's often pictured with
Jesus.
http://www.utilitarianism.com/jesus-christ.jpg
Hans Lister
That's him alright !!
Ben
I wasn't using Visual Studio as proof that WinAPI is a "mess". I was
using it to say that, since Visual Studio, in this case Visual C++ is
designed to make creating Windows C++ apps easier, it's not completely
separate from the Windows API. I can't say I've used Visual C++ much,
that's a confession I'll make, but I can't imagine it wouldn't have any
utilities for directly exploiting the Windows API (in fact, that these
utilities aren't one of the main reasons for it existing to begin with).
Ezekiel
Well you claim or imply that you have experience with such tools...
- "anyone who's done any low-level programming in Windows knows the WinAPI
is a complete mess"
So where exactly is the Windows API a "complete mess" - since you claim to
have done all of this "low-level programming" you should know the answer.
But wait... you've never done any low level programming for Windows. You've
probably never done any low level programming for any OS. Most likely you
have zero programming skills at all and you don't know jack-shit about the
Windows API.
Ain't that right "Ben"