Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - "The biggest liar in Usenet history" - "The most universally hated person on Usenet" -- attacks again

[Mark S Bilk]

Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - is
a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
remorse, and no empathy. His goal in life is to make other
people unhappy. He's admitted that he enjoys doing that.
He posts dozens of Usenet articles every day to cola attacking
people -- Linux users in general and especially me.

Here are 163 more people whose experience in Usenet has been
severely degraded by Snit Michael Glasser:

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e8248efe9040b38

Snit Michael Glasser, in every one of his Usenet posts (dozens
per day) is now quoting me out of context from #techrights:

"Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them." - Mark S. Bilk

The psychopath Snit Michael Glasser is doing that because
he thinks the "I just saw monsters" quote will make people
think I'm crazy.

So, since he's posted it hundreds of times, I feel obliged
to explain what I meant. First, here's the context. I was
talking with someone who said they were on psychiatric drugs
for bipolar disorder. I naively suggested that he not take
the drugs. I'll protect their privacy by changing their name
to "X".

<X> there's kind of an attitude that people have towards mental
illness, which is cruel

<X> nobody would tell a person who got run over by a car
that they're just being a wuss and need to quit taking their
pain pills

<X> but people with psychological problems get that response
from people

<X> suck it up, pull yourself up by the bootstraps

<X> you know....

<X> suddenly, everyone is an expert

<msb> Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I
was mentally ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.

So, I was agreeing with X that I'm not an expert on this point,
because I've never been mentally ill.

As to seeing monsters, I was speaking metaphorically.
My parents were quite cruel to me, falsely blaming me for "all
the problems in the family". They claimed I was mentally ill
because I didn't believe in their religion. I said, "If god
created the universe, then who created god?" They hated me
for saying that. They hated me for "talking back" to them,
which meant telling them when I disagreed with something they
said or did. They hated me for evading them when they were
trying to hit me. They constantly ordered me to "Conform!" --
which meant to think and act like everyone else.

An older cousin told me that my parents were the worst and
most cruel of any she had ever encountered.

They sent me to summer camp against my wishes. Lunch was always
sandwiches on white bread that had been kept cold by putting a
block of ice directly on top of them. That made the bread very
soggy and it stuck to the roof of my mouth and made me vomit.
The camp operator hated me for vomiting, told my parents,
and they hated me for it too.

When I was sent to public school, some of the teachers
absolutely hated their students. One of them snarled at us
constantly and "taught" us history by making us copy chapters
of the textbook on sheets of paper in longhand.

Another teacher was rounding numbers wrongly, and when I
politely pointed it out, citing the textbook, he sent me to
the principal who called my parents, who of course were very
angry with me.

It was people like that whom I thought of, metaphorically,
as monsters, because they didn't act the way I thought
human beings ought to act -- kindly and consciously.

As I later learned, they were exhibiting psychopath behavior.
Psychopaths comprise about 4.5% of the population.

As I got older, I realized that there were a lot of cruel
people in the world in positions of power, murdering people
by the millions and tens of millions. I read books by many
researchers who all realized that psychopaths, because they
have no conscience and can lie convincingly, have risen in
power to the point where they control most of the governments,
economies, corporations, and media of the world.

Psychopathy in Politics and Finance
Stefan Verstappen
http://www.globalresearch.ca/psychopathy-in-politics-and-finance/5334161
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eKqs7GJ0jdY

Another cause of the infusion of psychopathy into our culture
is the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion, whose sole deity is
a genocidal psychopath. That (imaginary) deity is the most
influential role-model on the planet.

http://www.evilbible.com

These are some of the researchers who have written books and/or
made videos or websites about extensive psychopathy in human
culture:

David Korten, Stefan Verstappen, Thomas Sheridan, Robert Hare,
Martha Stout, Laura Knight-Jadczyk, Hervey Cleckley, Paul Babiak
Herbert Marcuse, R D Laing, Thomas Szasz, Paul Goodman, Timothy
Leary

Wilhelm Reich - called cultural psychopathy "The Emotional Plague"

George Gurdjieff and Peter D Ouspensky - called it "Sleep"

Marija Gimbutas and Riane Eisler - called it "The Dominator
Paradigm"

Alex Jones, James Corbett, Michael Rivero, Ralph Schoenman, et al.
- who call it "The New World Order", or "Fascism"

They all see "monsters" too.

http://www.davidkorten.org/great-turning
David Korten at Storyfield -- The Great Turning
The one on Youtube doesn't work, so download this copy and
play it from your disk:
http://cosmicpenguin.com/tmp/DavidKorten-TheGreatTurning-Storyfield.mp4

[flatfish+++]

Cuckoo!
Cuckoo!

They are going to be coming for you with the net Mark S. Bilk.



>On Thu, 16 May 2013 07:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:

snip-------- Mark S. Bilk paranoid ranting.

--
flatfish+++
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

[White Spirit]

On Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:37:13 UTC+1, Mark S Bilk wrote:

> Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - is
> a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
> remorse, and no empathy. His goal in life is to make other
> people unhappy. He's admitted that he enjoys doing that.
> He posts dozens of Usenet articles every day to cola attacking
> people -- Linux users in general and especially me.

If you don't like him, ignore him and move on. Alternatively, make the occasional dig at him. I think it's fair to say that all of us are guilty of that from time to time.

The Golden Rule of Usenet, IMO, is never loose your composure and let other people get to you. Once you do that, you've lost.

[Chris Ahlstrom]

After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:

>

Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.

It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.

--
Together, they make a vivid case that whatever we may have bought with that
money – we did not buy higher achievement [in school]. We have to flip these
lines. For more than 30 years, our costs have risen while performance stayed
flat. Now we need our performance to rise while spending stays flat.
There is only one way to do that: Innovation.
-- Bill Gates (19 Nov 2010)
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/speeches-commentary/Pages/bill-gates-2010-ccsso.aspx

[White Spirit]

On Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:08:29 UTC+1, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
> and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.

> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.

You're not that much better though, are you Chris? Any time someone backs you into a corner you either shout 'PLONK!' like the other 'advocates' or accuse someone of being a socket puppet.

[Mark S Bilk]

On May 16, 8:08 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
> Just plonk the fellow, Mark.  He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
> and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>
> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.

Thanks Chris and White Spirit! But I'm not upset,
just explaining what's going on with Snit, and
on our planet at large. I think it's important
for folks to know why millions of people are being
murdered, and billions are being robbed, on
Planet Earth.

[flatfish+++]

Chris Ahlstrom hasn't made it past page one of the FOSSie Linux
Handbook.

His other tactic is to simply disappear and pretend he doesn't see
the thread.

That's what he did when he accused me of lying about GPS lock
problems and ICS on the Motorola Razr Maxx. Despite my presenting
mountains of evidence to substantiate my claim. He of course pulled
"works for me".

He really went under ground when JellyBean was released and one of
the items fixed was long times getting a GPS lock.

The guy is nothing but a poser.

[flatfish+++]

Those Lizard People of yours really get around, Mark S. Bilk!

[Mark S Bilk]

On May 16, 8:22 am, flatfish+++ <phlatph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:
> > On May 16, 8:08 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
> >> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
> >> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
> >> and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>
> >> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.
>
> > Thanks Chris and White Spirit!  But I'm not upset,
> > just explaining what's going on with Snit, and
> > on our planet at large.  I think it's important
> > for folks to know why millions of people are being
> > murdered, and billions are being robbed, on
> > Planet Earth.
>
> Those Lizard People of yours really get around, Mark S. Bilk!

They were, but now they've taken up residence in your bedroom
closet, Gary. At night, they're going to come out and GET YOU!

[chrisv]

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
>and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>
>It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.

Anyone who interacts with that thing, that disease, gets what he
deserves.

--
"But to say (Linux) should not be used for what it was designed for,
as you did, shows pretty deep ignorance of the whole purpose of
Linux." - "Snit", to TomB

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 7:37 AM, in article
e7a376af-137c-40fa...@wb17g2000pbc.googlegroups.com, "Mark S
Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> Snit Michael Glasser - http://xxxxxx.com/ - is a psychopath -- he lies

> constantly, has no conscience, no remorse, and no empathy.

Notice how Bilk:
* Seeds Google with my personal name, which I do not use in COLA
* Seeds Google with my business name, tied to his attacks
* Claims I lies but fails to find any lie from me
* Claims to know how I *feel*, something he knows nothing about

Bilk clearly has a lot of problems, just in that one sentence he shows he is
a very angry person who lashes out and works to harm others.

> His goal in life is to make other people unhappy.

Another lie by Bilk - one that is not true in any way.

> He's admitted that he enjoys doing that.

Another lie by Bilk.

> He posts dozens of Usenet articles every day to cola attacking people -- Linux
> users in general and especially me.

I do not attack people. I note how Bilk and others attack people. He sees
that as an attack. I specifically note how Bilk's mocking of 9-11 is grossly
disrespectful of the victims of that attack.

> Here are 163 more people whose experience in Usenet has been
> severely degraded by Snit Michael Glasser:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e8248efe9040b38

That list, compiled by the stalker and Sandman, does not include quotes
*from* me, and is filled with forgeries by the stalker and goes back to 2004
- it says *nothing* about me but a lot about those who compile and use it.

> Snit Michael Glasser, in every one of his Usenet posts (dozens
> per day) is now quoting me out of context from #techrights:
>
> "Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
> ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them." - Mark S. Bilk

This is an actual quote from you. As far as being out of context, the
meaning is clear - and shows how you have significant problems in your life.
I encourage you to get help.

> The psychopath Snit Michael Glasser is doing that because
> he thinks the "I just saw monsters" quote will make people
> think I'm crazy.

While the word "crazy" might not be a a good one, you clearly are incapable
of being rational and react very poorly when your irrational ideas are
questions or when it is noted how your claims make no sense. You act very
much like a deeply religious person who blindly believes their religion and
yet cannot explain it... and becomes very offended when people question it.

> So, since he's posted it hundreds of times, I feel obliged to explain what I
> meant. First, here's the context. I was talking with someone who said they
> were on psychiatric drugs for bipolar disorder.

And yet elsewhere you have mocked people with bipolar disorder:

Mark Bilk: about bipolar disorder
-----
So, you're happy sometimes, sad others. That's LIFE.
-----

You mocked a serious and life altering condition. This is reprehensible of
you. It is a *demonstration* of what you accuse me of: you show a lack of
conscience, of remorse, and of empathy.

> I naively suggested that he not take the drugs.

At least here you show you have learned - you realize your actions were
na�ve. This shows you *do* have a capacity to show you have a conscience and
remorse and can show empathy toward those you have wronged.

I commend you for this.

> I'll protect their privacy by changing their name to "X".
>
> <X> there's kind of an attitude that people have towards mental illness, which
> is cruel
>
> <X> nobody would tell a person who got run over by a car that they're just
> being a wuss and need to quit taking their pain pills
>
> <X> but people with psychological problems get that response from people
>
> <X> suck it up, pull yourself up by the bootstraps
>
> <X> you know....
>
> <X> suddenly, everyone is an expert
>
> <msb> Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally ill.
> But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.

The fact so many people have told you that you are mentally ill, even people
who know you personally, is quite telling. Note: I have suffered from an
anxiety disorder, brought on by a faulty natural pace maker and other
autonomic nervous system problems, but it also has lead to phobias and other
mental health issues I have had to fight. I am not mocking your mental
illness - or the mental illness of others. These things are real and they
are not your choice. They are not a sign of weakness. You can find help,
Mark. I sincerely suggest you do so.

> So, I was agreeing with X that I'm not an expert on this point,
> because I've never been mentally ill.

While one cannot be diagnosed online, and I am no expert, you clearly show
the signs of it. Your religious devotion to your 9-11 fantasies, for
example, are a sign of delusional thinking. Your anger at having your
fantasies questioned shows how you do not handle your emotions well. Your
fabrications of stories about me and your seeding of Google with my personal
and business information tied to your attacks shows a level of psychological
instability.

> As to seeing monsters, I was speaking metaphorically. My parents were quite
> cruel to me, falsely blaming me for "all the problems in the family".

This may very well be why you feel the need to lash out at others who speak
of your irrational claims. It is also a good reason why you should seek
professional help. I am not saying this as an attack of any sort - I
sincerely hope you do. It is clear you could benefit from it.

> They claimed I was mentally ill because I didn't believe in their religion. I
> said, "If god created the universe, then who created god?" They hated me for
> saying that. They hated me for "talking back" to them, which meant telling
> them when I disagreed with something they said or did. They hated me for
> evading them when they were trying to hit me. They constantly ordered me to
> "Conform!" -- which meant to think and act like everyone else.

This is much what you do when you are faced with questions about your 9-11
fantasies and are shown how irrational and self-refuting your claims are.
You act just as you describe your parents. Now maybe they really were like
this. Maybe not. But this is how you perceived them and this is how you have
learned to act.

And this is why you should seek professional assistance. Again, not an
attack or an insult - you sincerely and clearly have the need.

> An older cousin told me that my parents were the worst and most cruel of any
> she had ever encountered.

And this is what you have become - or at least how you present yourself
online. Look at how you react when it is noted your 9-11 fantasies make no
sense: you call people liars and psychopaths, you seen Google with people's
personal and business names, you lash out with such clear anger and
hatred... all very sad.

It brings me no joy to see you like this - but I am glad you have now
publicly admitted to why you have this reaction and why you have these
problems. You have explained, at least in part, where your psychological
problems have come from. Of course, this is not a counseling session and
much more would come out with professional assistance.

I suggest you open up in that type of environment and not publicly.

While I think it is important you understand the role your parents and
upbringing played into your problems, to blame them is not healthy. You have
to start taking responsibility for your own actions. You cannot blame your
parents for your actions in COLA, for example - you are now an adult and
must understand you are the one who controls your own actions.

> They sent me to summer camp against my wishes. Lunch was always sandwiches on
> white bread that had been kept cold by putting a block of ice directly on top
> of them. That made the bread very soggy and it stuck to the roof of my mouth
> and made me vomit. The camp operator hated me for vomiting, told my parents,
> and they hated me for it too.

The fact you feel you were hated for a physical reaction is interesting. And
the fact you had this reaction when, apparently, others did not is also
quite telling.

> When I was sent to public school, some of the teachers absolutely hated their
> students. One of them snarled at us constantly and "taught" us history by
> making us copy chapters of the textbook on sheets of paper in longhand.

Again: a theme is seen. You feel as though you were hated by your parents,
your camp personnel, teachers... and people on Usenet. You have this deep
feeling that others hate you... a projection of how you see yourself. You
see others as unfeeling and unkind... as you display actions showing you
have many of the qualities you claim others have.

Again: with all sincerity, you should seek professional help.

> Another teacher was rounding numbers wrongly, and when I politely pointed it
> out, citing the textbook, he sent me to the principal who called my parents,
> who of course were very angry with me.

"Of course". You expect that this is a matter of fact that people would be
angry with you. You expect to be treated poorly... even hated.

This says a lot about how you see yourself.

> It was people like that whom I thought of, metaphorically, as monsters,
> because they didn't act the way I thought human beings ought to act -- kindly
> and consciously.

This is how you see others... and how you present yourself in a public
forum.

> As I later learned, they were exhibiting psychopath behavior. Psychopaths
> comprise about 4.5% of the population.

But you describe them as being your patents and the camp personnel and your
teachers and your principal and... on and on and on. You see the world
through this lens.

And you show many of the characteristics you place on these other people.
This is why you should seek professional help.

Below you show how you have substituted your parents religion, the one you
hated, with your own. You speak of grand conspiracies and of "psychopaths",
your view of Christianities "Satan". You are much more like how you describe
your parents than you know.

Remember, I have pointed out how your claims are not rational. In terms of
just *one* item on your long list of claims - a video you speak of that
showed explosives being added to the Twin Towers as they were created. Of
that video:

* No known copies exist in any library.
* No known copies exist in any PBS station.
* No known VCR copies exist.
* No listing of it can be found in any 1990 TV guide.
* No reason why it would be shown on a government network
* No known welder comments in 1969 as the towers were made.
* No known welder comments when the show was broadcast in 1990.
* No known welder comments after 9-11.
* No people related to these welders can be found speaking up.
* No explanation for why you changed your story about it's "series"
* No comment in the video about explosives you say it proves.
* No agency has been named which authorized special clearances.
* No name of any producer has been given.
* No name of anyone working on this video has been given.
* No reason given why explosives were not added after the welding
* Bilk has admitted not even he saw the video yet insists it is real.

These are things you cannot explain... you run from. The closest you have
come to even trying to explain any of these irrational details from your
claims is to say, with the first, that secret government agents (all
psychopaths, one can assume?) removed them from every library in the world.

This is not rational. But even if we assume it happened, what about the
other points. Why is the video not mentioned in any TV Guide from 1990? How
is it that it was "magically" removed from those publications? On and on...
each of those bullet points demonstrates how irrational - how *religiously*
- you hold onto your fantasies about 9-11.

And that is just about that one video. Looking at the broader picture there
is far, far more about your story that is irrational. I speak of some of it
here: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.

You react as a religious fanatic would - you go on the attack and refuse to
actually try to explain how these things are possible. You accept them on
faith.

Now with religion, that is fine. People can take on faith that there is some
"guy in the sky" or the like. Does not really harm anything, though it can
lead to pushing rational thinking aside, as the "Intelligent Design"
proponents do in science classes.

In your case your religiously held views do great dishonor to the victims of
9-11. But more than that, they show how irrational and fearful you are...
read your comments, below. Your fear and your hatred and your anger comes
out. It is a very big part of you.

It is something you should seek professional help for. Posting it to a
public forum, especially one such as COLA, is not wise. There are people,
such as the person you reference above with his list of obsessively
collected and forged quotes, who use such things against you - to hurt you.
In a professional setting the goal would be to help you.

I encourage you to see out such help.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:05 AM, in article
5085bc92-0ded-4726...@googlegroups.com, "White Spirit"

I think Bilk should get professional help with his anger toward others and
how he sees himself as being hated by so many. He has finally explained why
he has such strong irrational - even religious - views and where some of his
problems stem from. But he is an adult, and it is time for him to take
responsibility for his own actions and his own attacks.

I sincerely encourage him to see professional help.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:18 AM, in article

7cbdf224-2125-4475...@wg15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

You may have had that goal: but what you did was show a deep insight into
your own thinking. You believe your parents hated you and the personnel at
the summer camp you went to... as well as your teachers and the principal at
your school.

You also come from a very religious background, and while you rejected that
religion you have adopted much of the same thinking that you saw in that
religion - a belief in things you cannot explain, an uncontrollable desire
to lash out and attack those who question your unsupportable claims, etc.

You have become your parents - or at least become what you describe them as.
You are your own worst enemy.

I have encouraged you to seek professional help. I am sincere in that
suggestion and hope you do. You clearly are still undergoing a lot of pain
from your perceptions of your childhood... and you display many of the same
behaviors as those you claim to despise. You can find help, Bilk... and you
should.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:13 AM, in article
9886bc7d-785a-489c...@googlegroups.com, "White Spirit"

Bilk is a bit more extreme than many in COLA, but he is not the only one who
lashes out as he does.

Bilk is unique in admitting, though, why he does this... how he blames his
parents and the adults at the summer camp he went to and his teachers and
other people at the school.

Bilk demonstrates the behaviors he claims to despise in others... which
implies he does not like himself.

He truly should seek professional help. I am sincere in that and mean it as
no form of attack.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:40 AM, in article 3bv9p8d49rtk7fj4f...@4ax.com,

"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
>> and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>>
>> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.
>
> Anyone who interacts with that thing, that disease, gets what he
> deserves.


--

Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:26 AM, in article
64d38f1d-5e19-4f18...@n5g2000pbg.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

But you, Bilk, are safe - your work for the Underground Marshmallow People
means they will protect you from the Lizard people.

Is that why you work for them - for the protection they offer you and not
just the money?

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:22 AM, in article 1jlnthq2khcz1$.1b7vs4k7cg7i6$.d...@40tude.net,

"flatfish+++" <phlat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> On May 16, 8:08�am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. �He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
>>> and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>>>
>>> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.
>>
>> Thanks Chris and White Spirit! But I'm not upset,
>> just explaining what's going on with Snit, and
>> on our planet at large. I think it's important
>> for folks to know why millions of people are being
>> murdered, and billions are being robbed, on
>> Planet Earth.
>
> Those Lizard People of yours really get around, Mark S. Bilk!

In all seriousness, Bilk has now made it very clear why he should be seeking
professional help.

I hope he does.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:08 AM, in article kn2si6$q11$1...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"

<OFee...@teleworm.us> wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>>
>
> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel bastard,
> and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>
> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.

Note the attacks and the insults... but without any evidence.

It is what the herd does.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Clogwog]

Snit wrote:
> On 5/16/13 8:26 AM, in article
> 64d38f1d-5e19-4f18...@n5g2000pbg.googlegroups.com,
> "Mark S Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 16, 8:22 am, flatfish+++ <phlatph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>>> On May 16, 8:08 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>>> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel
>>>>> bastard, and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>>>
>>>>> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.
>>>
>>>> Thanks Chris and White Spirit! But I'm not upset,
>>>> just explaining what's going on with Snit, and
>>>> on our planet at large. I think it's important
>>>> for folks to know why millions of people are being
>>>> murdered, and billions are being robbed, on
>>>> Planet Earth.
>>>
>>> Those Lizard People of yours really get around, Mark S. Bilk!
>>
>> They were, but now they've taken up residence in your bedroom
>> closet, Gary. At night, they're going to come out and GET YOU!
>
> But you, Bilk, are safe - your work for the Underground Marshmallow
> People means they will protect you from the Lizard people.

:-? No kidding Snit, does Bilk really believe there are "Underground
Marshmallow People", "Lizard people"?
He's a bigger loon than I could have guessed.
And I read some lunatic stuff in COLA that there are Neanderthalers living
under the surface of this planet.
Why does Linux advocacy attract so many queers and oddballs, I often wonder.
lol !, Quite entertaining stuff though.

[GreyCloud]

Actually, he says "Buh-Bye!".
Kind of what a child says.

[GreyCloud]

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 10:22 AM, in article kn34bv$adi$1...@dont-email.me, "Clogwog"

I have seen others say he believes in Underground Lizard People, but the
closest I could find to back that was this: <http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

Mark Bilk, on the government:
-----
It's an organization of psychopaths. Not actually humans.
-----
The high rulers wouldn't kill them all if they all publicly stated
who the rulers were.
-----
Some people think the ones in ultimate control are aliens.
-----
Some people have seen aliens. Lizard-like and others.
-----

In that same discussion he admits:

Mark Bilk:
-----

Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.

-----

He has since said that these "monsters" were his parents who he believes
hated him... along with his teachers and the principal at his school... and
the people who worked at the summer camp he went to as a kid. He believes
the world is filled with "psychopaths" and that he is very heavily hated.

Here is my response to his admission of these things: <http://bit.ly/YMFlQg>

He is very open with how hated he feels and how his own religious-like
devotion to his irrational ideas developed.

As for the Underground Marshmallow people - no, Bilk has never shown any
direct belief in them. It is my response to his mockery of the 9-11 attack
and his lies about people being paid by MS to post to COLA. The idea that
the Twin Towers were brought down by Underground Marshmallow People and that
these UMP pay Mark to post to COLA makes as much sense as his claims (though
there are fewer holes in the idea of the UMP than in his BS). But, no, Mark
has never directly claimed to believe in the UMP.

> He's a bigger loon than I could have guessed.
> And I read some lunatic stuff in COLA that there are Neanderthalers living
> under the surface of this planet.

I would love to see the link!

> Why does Linux advocacy attract so many queers and oddballs, I often wonder.
> lol !, Quite entertaining stuff though.

The COLA "herd" only exists because its members cannot use logic or reason
well, and believe in absurd conspiracies and bizarre claims. The idea that
these views would be limited to technology would be odd - so they have all
sorts of other "interesting" ideas.

[Mark S Bilk]

Snit has now posted 9 times to this thread, always lying and
intentionally "misunderstanding". Flatfish Gary Stewart has
implied that all those researchers that I cite are "cuckoo"
and "paranoid".

They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
have to repost. I've added new material, and at the end of the
article, links to lots of informative websites. I'll repost it
and add more every time they hide the thread.

Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - is
a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
remorse, and no empathy. His goal in life is to make other
people unhappy. He's admitted that he enjoys doing that.
He posts dozens of Usenet articles every day to cola attacking
people -- Linux users in general and especially me.

Here are 163 more people whose experience in Usenet has been
severely degraded by Snit Michael Glasser:

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e8248efe9040b38

Snit Michael Glasser, in every one of his Usenet posts (dozens
per day) is now quoting me out of context from #techrights:

"Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them." - Mark S. Bilk

The psychopath Snit Michael Glasser is doing that because
he thinks the "I just saw monsters" quote will make people
think I'm crazy.

Since he's posted it hundreds of times, I feel obliged to explain

what I meant. First, here's the context. I was talking with
someone who said they were on psychiatric drugs for bipolar
disorder. I naively suggested that he not take the drugs.
I'll protect their privacy by changing their name to "X".

<X> there's kind of an attitude that people have towards mental
illness, which is cruel

<X> nobody would tell a person who got run over by a car
that they're just being a wuss and need to quit taking their
pain pills

<X> but people with psychological problems get that response
from people

<X> suck it up, pull yourself up by the bootstraps

<X> you know....

<X> suddenly, everyone is an expert

<msb> Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I

was mentally ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.

So, I was agreeing with X that I'm not an expert on this point,
because I've never been mentally ill.

As to seeing monsters, I was speaking metaphorically.

My parents were quite cruel to me, falsely blaming me for "all
the problems in the family". They claimed I was mentally ill
because I didn't believe in their religion. I said, "If god
created the universe, then who created god?" They hated me
for saying that. They hated me for "talking back" to them,
which meant telling them when I disagreed with something they
said or did. They hated me for evading them when they were
trying to hit me. They constantly ordered me to "Conform!" --

to think and act like everyone else.

An older cousin told me that my parents were the worst and
most cruel of any she had ever encountered.

They sent me to summer camp against my wishes. Lunch was always
sandwiches on white bread that had been kept cold by putting a
block of ice directly on top of them. That made the bread very
soggy and it stuck to the roof of my mouth and made me vomit.
The camp operator hated me for vomiting, told my parents,
and they hated me for it too.

When I was sent to public school, some of the teachers absolutely

hated all of their students. One of them snarled at us constantly

and "taught" us history by making us copy chapters of the textbook
on sheets of paper in longhand.

Another teacher was rounding numbers incorrectly, and when I

politely pointed it out, citing the textbook, he sent me to the
principal who called my parents, who of course were very angry
with me.

It was people like that whom I thought of, metaphorically,
as monsters, because they didn't act the way I thought
human beings ought to act -- kindly and consciously.

Some of them claimed that I was mentally ill, but it was because
I told the truth about them. As Snit and the other anti-Linux
propagandists do here in COLA, as Microsoft instructed in its
propaganda manual, the standard way to discredit someone who's
telling the truth is to claim that they're insane.

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958

As I later learned, they were exhibiting psychopath behavior.
Psychopaths comprise about 4.5% of the population.

I had a few good teachers. One, teaching high school science,
let me work with a fancy physics experiment set because I already
knew all the lessons. I think he later became the superintendent
of science education for the city of Philadelphia.

They all see monsters too. And they're right.

But people all over the world are waking up. Thanks to the
Internet, we're sharing our understanding about the psychopath
monsters who rule over us.

One of the most evil men in history, Edward Bernays, taught
the ultra-wealthy psychopaths how to rule the world with lies
instead of guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

But they can only control us as long as we don't realize
that we're being controlled -- as long as we're not aware of
their lies. Now the Internet is enabling us to expose the
lies and share the truth far more rapidly and accessibly than
books alone could do.

Here are just a few of the websites that explain, in various
ways, what's really happening in the world. I'll repost this
article and give more websites every time Snit, flatfish,
or the other anti-Linux psychopaths here hide the thread by
changing the Subject line.

http://www.davidkorten.org/great-turning
David Korten at Storyfield -- The Great Turning
The one on Youtube doesn't work, so download this copy and
play it from your disk:
http://cosmicpenguin.com/tmp/DavidKorten-TheGreatTurning-Storyfield.mp4

Michel Chossudovsky et al.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/

Michael Rivero
http://whatreallyhappened.com

Laura Knight-Jadczyk
http://www.sott.net

Alex Jones
http://www.infowars.com

Rupert Sheldrake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPccMlgug8A

The Bird is the Word!
http://cosmicpenguin.com

Thomas Szasz - The Myth of Mental Illness
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Szasz/myth.htm

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:40 AM, in article 3bv9p8d49rtk7fj4f...@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> "But to say (Linux) should not be used for what it was designed for,
> as you did, shows pretty deep ignorance of the whole purpose of
> Linux." - "Snit", to TomB

I looked and I do not see where this quote came from. I would love to see
the context.

But also, you claim to have me kill filtered... so how would you even know I
said this assuming I did?

My guess: you will run from this question. Fast.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Mark S Bilk]

Snit has now posted 10 times to this thread, always lying and

intentionally "misunderstanding". Flatfish Gary Stewart has
implied that all those researchers that I cite are "cuckoo"
and "paranoid".

They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
have to repost. I've added new material, and at the end of the
article, links to lots of informative websites. I'll repost it
and add more every time they hide the thread.

Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - is
a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
remorse, and no empathy. His goal in life is to make other
people unhappy. He's admitted that he enjoys doing that.
He posts dozens of Usenet articles every day to cola attacking
people -- Linux users in general and especially me.

Here are 163 more people whose experience in Usenet has been
severely degraded by Snit Michael Glasser:

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e8248efe9040b38

Snit Michael Glasser, in every one of his Usenet posts (dozens
per day) is now quoting me out of context from #techrights:

"Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them." - Mark S. Bilk

The psychopath Snit Michael Glasser is doing that because
he thinks the "I just saw monsters" quote will make people
think I'm crazy.

Since he's posted it hundreds of times, I feel obliged to explain

what I meant. First, here's the context. I was talking with
someone who said they were on psychiatric drugs for bipolar
disorder. I naively suggested that he not take the drugs.
I'll protect their privacy by changing their name to "X".

<X> there's kind of an attitude that people have towards mental
illness, which is cruel

<X> nobody would tell a person who got run over by a car
that they're just being a wuss and need to quit taking their
pain pills

<X> but people with psychological problems get that response
from people

<X> suck it up, pull yourself up by the bootstraps

<X> you know....

<X> suddenly, everyone is an expert

<msb> Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I

was mentally ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.

So, I was agreeing with X that I'm not an expert on this point,
because I've never been mentally ill.

As to seeing monsters, I was speaking metaphorically.

My parents were quite cruel to me, falsely blaming me for "all
the problems in the family". They claimed I was mentally ill
because I didn't believe in their religion. I said, "If god
created the universe, then who created god?" They hated me
for saying that. They hated me for "talking back" to them,
which meant telling them when I disagreed with something they
said or did. They hated me for evading them when they were
trying to hit me. They constantly ordered me to "Conform!" --

to think and act like everyone else.

An older cousin told me that my parents were the worst and
most cruel of any she had ever encountered.

They sent me to summer camp against my wishes. Lunch was always
sandwiches on white bread that had been kept cold by putting a
block of ice directly on top of them. That made the bread very
soggy and it stuck to the roof of my mouth and made me vomit.
The camp operator hated me for vomiting, told my parents,
and they hated me for it too.

When I was sent to public school, some of the teachers absolutely

hated all of their students. One of them snarled at us constantly

and "taught" us history by making us copy chapters of the textbook
on sheets of paper in longhand.

Another teacher was rounding numbers incorrectly, and when I

politely pointed it out, citing the textbook, he sent me to the
principal who called my parents, who of course were very angry
with me.

It was people like that whom I thought of, metaphorically,
as monsters, because they didn't act the way I thought
human beings ought to act -- kindly and consciously.

Some of them claimed that I was mentally ill, but it was because
I told the truth about them. As Snit and the other anti-Linux
propagandists do here in COLA, as Microsoft instructed in its
propaganda manual, the standard way to discredit someone who's
telling the truth is to claim that they're insane.

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958

As I later learned, they were exhibiting psychopath behavior.
Psychopaths comprise about 4.5% of the population.

I had a few good teachers. One, teaching high school science,
let me work with a fancy physics experiment set because I already
knew all the lessons. I think he later became the superintendent
of science education for the city of Philadelphia.

They all see monsters too. And they're right.

But people all over the world are waking up. Thanks to the
Internet, we're sharing our understanding about the psychopath
monsters who rule over us.

One of the most evil men in history, Edward Bernays, taught
the ultra-wealthy psychopaths how to rule the world with lies
instead of guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

But they can only control us as long as we don't realize
that we're being controlled -- as long as we're not aware of
their lies. Now the Internet is enabling us to expose the
lies and share the truth far more rapidly and accessibly than
books alone could do.

Here are just a few of the websites that explain, in various
ways, what's really happening in the world. I'll repost this
article and give more websites every time Snit, flatfish,
or the other anti-Linux psychopaths here hide the thread by
changing the Subject line.

http://www.davidkorten.org/great-turning
David Korten at Storyfield -- The Great Turning
The one on Youtube doesn't work, so download this copy and
play it from your disk:
http://cosmicpenguin.com/tmp/DavidKorten-TheGreatTurning-Storyfield.mp4

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 11:10 AM, in article
90e5141e-e4aa-4e8b...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> Snit has now posted 9 times to this thread, always lying and
> intentionally "misunderstanding".

What lie? By all means do quote the lie and defend your view.

But you will not. This is part of what I am getting at with you - you make
claims you cannot back. You attack people with accusations you cannot back.

You act in the ways you describe the "psychopaths" you claim to not like...
you act like how you describe your parents and teachers and your principal
and the people who worked at the summer camp you went to... all these people
who "hate" you, in your mind at least.

You claim I am the most hated person on Usenet, but you are the one who
claims to be hated by so many. It is sad. You truly seem to believe you were
hated by your parents, teachers, principal, and the people who worked with
you at a summer camp.

That is sad.

And it is a sign you need help.

> Flatfish Gary Stewart has implied that all those researchers that I cite are
> "cuckoo" and "paranoid".

I will not comment on them, but it is clear *you* are unable to answer even
the most basic of questions about your claims... nor explain things in any
way that makes sense. Again, just about your claims of *one* video:

* No known copies exist in any library.
* No known copies exist in any PBS station.
* No known VCR copies exist.
* No listing of it can be found in any 1990 TV guide.
* No reason why it would be shown on a government network
* No known welder comments in 1969 as the towers were made.
* No known welder comments when the show was broadcast in 1990.
* No known welder comments after 9-11.
* No people related to these welders can be found speaking up.
* No explanation for why you changed your story about it's "series"
* No comment in the video about explosives you say it proves.
* No agency has been named which authorized special clearances.
* No name of any producer has been given.
* No name of anyone working on this video has been given.
* No reason given why explosives were not added after the welding
* Bilk has admitted not even he saw the video yet insists it is real.

Other than a rather paranoid claim that secret government agents "explain"
the first point, you have run most if not all of the other points. And that
is just one point in your string of fictions... for more info about your
fictions, see here: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>. Your claims are irrational - but
you hold on to them with a religious fervor and show hatred toward those who
question you. You act as you describe your parents acting toward you.

> They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
> have to repost.

Here you are blaming others for your own actions. You "have to repost"
because of others. No, Bilk. You have control over your own actions.

As far as my changing the name, I cannot stop you from seeding Google with
my business name associated with your attacks but I have no obligation to
*assist* you with that. I have control of my own actions.

> I've added new material, and at the end of the article, links to lots of
> informative websites. I'll repost it and add more every time they hide the
> thread.

We cannot hide the thread... it is on Google Groups for all to see.

A response to your vicious attacks and your admission of why you are as you
are is posted here: <http://bit.ly/YMFlQg>

I have snipped your copy-and-paste info that is fully responded to in the
link, above.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 11:10 AM, in article

90e5141e-e4aa-4e8b...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> Snit has now posted 9 times to this thread, always lying and
> intentionally "misunderstanding".

What lie? By all means do quote the lie and defend your view.

But you will not. This is part of what I am getting at with you - you make
claims you cannot back. You attack people with accusations you cannot back.

You act in the ways you describe the "psychopaths" you claim to not like...
you act like how you describe your parents and teachers and your principal
and the people who worked at the summer camp you went to... all these people
who "hate" you, in your mind at least.

You claim I am the most hated person on Usenet, but you are the one who
claims to be hated by so many. It is sad. You truly seem to believe you were
hated by your parents, teachers, principal, and the people who worked with
you at a summer camp.

That is sad.

And it is a sign you need help.

> Flatfish Gary Stewart has implied that all those researchers that I cite are
> "cuckoo" and "paranoid".

> They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
> have to repost.

Here you are blaming others for your own actions. You "have to repost"
because of others. No, Bilk. You have control over your own actions.

As far as my changing the name, I cannot stop you from seeding Google with
my business name associated with your attacks but I have no obligation to
*assist* you with that. I have control of my own actions.

> I've added new material, and at the end of the article, links to lots of
> informative websites. I'll repost it and add more every time they hide the
> thread.

We cannot hide the thread... it is on Google Groups for all to see.

A response to your vicious attacks and your admission of why you are as you
are is posted here: <http://bit.ly/YMFlQg>

I have snipped your copy-and-paste info that is fully responded to in the
link, above.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Mark S Bilk]

I post Snit Michael Glasser's website address because
he posts mine -- in every one of his articles!

And I don't hate anybody. I'm simply dealing with
his constant attacks on me -- about 50 posts per day!
He's been doing it for months.

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 11:17 AM, in article
81804ca6-a2b8-46e3...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
> have to repost.

You claim you "have to repost". You have no control of your actions... take
no responsibility. So when will you do what you claim you are being
controlled by others to do?

Granted, it has been only a few minutes... maybe it will take you a day or
two to do what, in your mind, you "have" to do because others control your
actions.

Or maybe you will finally figure out that I do not control you... *you*
control your own actions and are responsible for yourself.

* Not your parents, even though you say they hated you.
* Not your teachers, even though you say they hated you.
* Not your school principal, even though you say he hated you.
* Not the staff of your summer camp, even though you say they hated you.

No matter who hated you - no matter how angry they made you - you are able
to control yourself. You can.

And I am happy to help you see that. By my own choice. You see, I take
responsibility for my own actions... unlike you I do not blame others for my
actions.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 11:10 AM, in article CDBA6F1F.1B041%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,

"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 5/16/13 8:40 AM, in article 3bv9p8d49rtk7fj4f...@4ax.com,
> "chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "But to say (Linux) should not be used for what it was designed for,
>> as you did, shows pretty deep ignorance of the whole purpose of
>> Linux." - "Snit", to TomB
>
> I looked and I do not see where this quote came from. I would love to see
> the context.
>
> But also, you claim to have me kill filtered... so how would you even know I
> said this assuming I did?
>
> My guess: you will run from this question. Fast.

I did some research and found the post:

<http://bit.ly/YMJ0h7>

The comment was made to "The Natural Philosopher" and was in reference to
the fact that Linus Torvalds has repeatedly said that the reason he got into
Linux was for it to be used on the desktop. "The Natural Philosopher" was
arguing that Linus did not create Linux for the reasons he said he did.

Your claim is incorrect in that you say I was telling TomB this and not "The
Natural Philosopher".

We all make mistakes. You clearly made one here... and looking I see where
you have made this false claim at least four times:

<http://bit.ly/15QAva6>
<http://bit.ly/15QAvXJ>
<http://bit.ly/15QAzXs>
<http://bit.ly/15QAAL2>

When it is noted I have misquoted someone or otherwise misrepresented them
and the evidence is shown and is solid, as it is here, I acknowledge the
error and apologize. All I am asking you to do is to rise to my moral level,
even if only briefly, and to do the right thing.

Will you?

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 8:05 AM, in article
5085bc92-0ded-4726...@googlegroups.com, "White Spirit"
<wulfg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:37:13 UTC+1, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>

>> Snit Michael Glasser - http://prxscxttcxmpxtxrgxy.cxm/ - is

>> a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
>> remorse, and no empathy. His goal in life is to make other
>> people unhappy. He's admitted that he enjoys doing that.
>> He posts dozens of Usenet articles every day to cola attacking
>> people -- Linux users in general and especially me.
>

> If you don't like him, ignore him and move on.

And, for that matter, if he *really* believes I am lying he should back his
accusations. Of note, he never does.

> Alternatively, make the occasional dig at him. I think it's fair to say that
> all of us are guilty of that from time to time.
>
> The Golden Rule of Usenet, IMO, is never loose your composure and let other
> people get to you. Once you do that, you've lost.

But, sincerely, I hope he turns this around to become a win... I hope he
seeks professional help to deal with the very serious problems he has
admitted to having in his view of the world.

I feel sorry for him and wish him well.

At the same time, as long as he is attacking me I will hold open to respond.
Just because he has such problems does not mean he is not in control of his
own choices. He has the choice to be honest and kind or to lie and attack.
He is choosing the latter... and I find that a shame.

[Steve Carroll]

On May 16, 11:52 am, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/13 11:17 AM, in article

> 81804ca6-a2b8-46e3-8128-22b5200ac...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

>
> Bilk" <m...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
> > They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
> > have to repost.
>
> You claim you "have to repost". You have no control of your actions... take
> no responsibility. So when will you do what you claim you are being
> controlled by others to do?

How can Snit deal without getting attention for five whole minutes?
Mark said he would give you attention and now he is not so you are
having one of your famous public break downs.

Not everyone spends 24/7 on Usenet, gluey. Maybe Mark has a life and
will respond to you later. Maybe he will leave you hanging. Whatever
he does he clearly has you pissed. I love it.

[Mark S Bilk]

If Snit Michael Glasser stops attacking me, if he stops mentioning
me or my website or anything I've ever said, in any of his Usenet
posts, websites, or anything else he writes, then I will stop
posting about him.

[Peter Köhlmann]

Mark S Bilk wrote:

> Snit has now posted 10 times to this thread, always lying and
> intentionally "misunderstanding". Flatfish Gary Stewart has
> implied that all those researchers that I cite are "cuckoo"
> and "paranoid".

They are. To call them (and you) "imbeciles" would be way too kind.

>
> Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - is
> a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
> remorse, and no empathy.

That is right.
It is still no excuse for your nonsense.

Do the world a favour: Go to the next shop, buy a decent rope and just
simply hang yourself. That way the rest of the world is spared your quoting
of the lunatic shite from Snit Michael Glasser

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 12:29 PM, in article kn3bqv$lp7$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"

<peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:

> Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> Snit has now posted 10 times to this thread, always lying and
>> intentionally "misunderstanding". Flatfish Gary Stewart has
>> implied that all those researchers that I cite are "cuckoo"
>> and "paranoid".
>
> They are. To call them (and you) "imbeciles" would be way too kind.
>
>>

>> Snit Michael Glasser - http://prxscxttcxmputxrgxy.cxm/ - is

>> a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
>> remorse, and no empathy.
>
> That is right.
> It is still no excuse for your nonsense.
>
> Do the world a favour: Go to the next shop, buy a decent rope and just
> simply hang yourself. That way the rest of the world is spared your quoting
> of the lunatic shite from Snit Michael Glasser

While I agree with Peter about Bilk's fantasies about 9-11 being nonsense, I
disagree with his wishes that you harm yourself.

Please do not.

Instead, seek help. You clearly need it, Bilk. It is obvious in your every
post, and your recent posts where you talked about your history of how you
have felt hated your whole life is quite telling.

Seek help. Sincerely, if you need assistance finding help email me and I
will do some research to find free resources for you.

I know we have our disagreements. I know I do not always respond kindly to
your attacks and accusations and fictions about 9-11. But I do sincerely
wish you well and hope you get the help you need.

My offer is a sincere one. I am happy to assist you in finding the help you
need.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

[Mark S Bilk]

I don't have any psychological problems, and if I did,
Snit Michael Glasser is the last person I would ask for help.

As I said before, which Snit has not responded to:

It's his choice. He's the proactive one, attacking me 50 or so
times a day. I'm just responding occasionally. So it's up to him
to stop doing it.

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 12:56 PM, in article
2f38d3d5-18f1-4164...@oy9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> I don't have any psychological problems, and if I did,
> Snit Michael Glasser is the last person I would ask for help.

You have made it clear you like do have such problems, but to be clear I
have not offered to help in any direct way - I have merely offered to help
you find free resources in your area where *they* can help you.

> As I said before, which Snit has not responded to:
>
> If Snit Michael Glasser stops attacking me, if he stops mentioning
> me or my website or anything I've ever said, in any of his Usenet
> posts, websites, or anything else he writes, then I will stop
> posting about him.

I am not attacking you - I have asked you questions about your claims about
9-11 and noted how you have no reasonable responses. For example, you have
no reasonable responses for this list about a video you claim "proves"
things but does not seem to exist:

* No known copies exist in any library.
* No known copies exist in any PBS station.
* No known VCR copies exist.
* No listing of it can be found in any 1990 TV guide.
* No reason why it would be shown on a government network
* No known welder comments in 1969 as the towers were made.
* No known welder comments when the show was broadcast in 1990.
* No known welder comments after 9-11.
* No people related to these welders can be found speaking up.
* No explanation for why you changed your story about it's "series"
* No comment in the video about explosives you say it proves.
* No agency has been named which authorized special clearances.
* No name of any producer has been given.
* No name of anyone working on this video has been given.
* No reason given why explosives were not added after the welding
* Bilk has admitted not even he saw the video yet insists it is real.

I have spoken of your claims of secret government agents "explaining" the
first point, but you have simply dodged the rest. To note this is not an
attack, it is simply an observation. I would love to have a reasoned
discussion with you where you explain these things.

But you know you cannot, so you feel "attacked".

> It's his choice. He's the proactive one, attacking me 50 or so
> times a day. I'm just responding occasionally. So it's up to him
> to stop doing it.

Are you asking me to change my .sig to not reference your unsupportable
claims about 9-11? If so then I shall comply... as long as you do not bring
up your offensive claims about that event nor post your lies about me and
others being paid by MS to post to COLA, and you cease calling me names and
making accusations you cannot support.

You should also apologize for your behavior: specifically calling me names
and accusing me of lying and seeding Google with my name and business name
and your attacks, but I will not hold that as a condition for altering my
.sig.


--
"But I have never, ever even run a Linux server and I don't even want
to; it's not what I'm interested in. I'm more of a desktop guy."
-- Linus Torvalds

[Mark S Bilk]

On May 16, 1:06 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/13 12:56 PM, in article

> 2f38d3d5-18f1-4164-acdc-3da12021c...@oy9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

>
> Bilk" <m...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
> > I don't have any psychological problems, and if I did,
> > Snit Michael Glasser is the last person I would ask for help.
>
> You have made it clear you like do have such problems,

Snit is lying and attacking as usual.

> > As I said before, which Snit has not responded to:
>
> > If Snit Michael Glasser stops attacking me, if he stops mentioning
> > me or my website or anything I've ever said, in any of his Usenet
> > posts, websites, or anything else he writes, then I will stop
> > posting about him.
>
> I am not attacking you - I have asked you questions about your claims about
> 9-11 and noted how you have no reasonable responses. For example, you have
> no reasonable responses for this list about a video you claim "proves"
> things but does not seem to exist:

These are nonsense questions based on Snit's intentional
"misunderstanding".
It is not possible to have a rational collegial discussion with him.

> I have spoken of your claims of secret government agents "explaining" the
> first point, but you have simply dodged the rest. To note this is not an
> attack, it is simply an observation. I would love to have a reasoned
> discussion with you where you explain these things.
> But you know you cannot, so you feel "attacked".

These are nonsense questions based on Snit's intentional
"misunderstanding".
It is not possible to have a rational collegial discussion with him.

> > It's his choice. He's the proactive one, attacking me 50 or so
> > times a day. I'm just responding occasionally. So it's up to him
> > to stop doing it.
>
> Are you asking me to change my .sig to not reference your unsupportable
> claims about 9-11? If so then I shall comply... as long as you do not bring
> up your offensive claims about that event

Anti-Linux propagandists like flatfish constantly challenge me about
9-11.
That's why I talk about it here.

If you, Snit, want to make a website supporting the government lies
about 9-11, you're free to do so. I will not comment on it here.
However, I may quote things from my website here. If you regard them
as "offensive", then you can quote from various govt shill websites.

Now if you were to cease referring to "the herd" and "the cult",
which
I find very offensive, and cease changing Subject lines on pro-Linux
threads, and if you were to convince the other anti-Linux
propagandists
not to mention 9-11 here, then I would stop posting about 9-11.

> nor post your lies about me and
> others being paid by MS to post to COLA, and you cease calling me names and
> making accusations you cannot support.

I will not post about you, Snit, being paid to post here. I'm not
sure
that you are.

But various other ones are, or they wouldn't post 30,000+ lying anti-
Linux
articles here. I will not stop saying that, nor quoting the hate-
words
they use, and DFS's mission statement (which I think has gotten him
fired).

> You should also apologize for your behavior: specifically calling me names
> and accusing me of lying and seeding Google with my name and business name
> and your attacks, but I will not hold that as a condition for altering my
> .sig.

You, Snit, have attacked, and I've only responded, in far fewer posts
than
you. I don't owe you any apology.

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 1:37 PM, in article
bd84c631-2ef4-4fb9...@fq2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> On May 16, 1:06 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/16/13 12:56 PM, in article
>> 2f38d3d5-18f1-4164-acdc-3da12021c...@oy9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S
>>
>> Bilk" <m...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't have any psychological problems, and if I did,
>>> Snit Michael Glasser is the last person I would ask for help.
>>

>> You have made it clear you like do have such problems, but to be clear I have
>> not offered to help in any direct way - I have merely offered to help you
>> find free resources in your area where *they* can help you.
>

> Snit is lying and attacking as usual.

Again you accuse me of lying and of attacking. Let me clarify some points
for you:

1) When I speak of it being clear you do have such problems, I am in
reference to your recent post where you spoke of your feelings that you were
hated by your parents and teachers and your principal and the staff at a
camp you went to as a child. I am in reference to your admitted feelings of
being "attacked" when your claims are questioned. I am not trying to make a
formal diagnosis or say I have any added insight or professional opinion
about this.

2) I noted your error in assuming I was suggesting I help you directly with
these apparent problems of yours. I was doing no such thing. I merely was
offering to help you find free resources so you can work with a professional
who hopefully can assist you. Or, if I am wrong, they can let you know
things are fine. No harm in you getting checked out though, right? I
strongly encourage you to do so.

On a side note, let it be noted you are *still* seeding Google with your
attacks and accusations and my full name. I have made it clear I do not wish
for you to do this. You continue to... this clearly is a form of an attack,
as are your accusations against me. You are the one doing as you accuse
others.

Still, in good faith I have changed my .sig to not speak of you or your
unsupportable claims about 9-11. I will not return to that even after this
post of yours where you already have gone back to attacking me and making
false accusations. I am happy to give you multiple chances, esp. given how
your offenses in the post I respond to are far lighter than some of your
other recent posts. I commend you for working to head in the right
direction. It might take you time to break your poor habits.

>>> As I said before, which Snit has not responded to:
>>>
>>> If Snit Michael Glasser stops attacking me, if he stops mentioning
>>> me or my website or anything I've ever said, in any of his Usenet
>>> posts, websites, or anything else he writes, then I will stop
>>> posting about him.
>>
>> I am not attacking you - I have asked you questions about your claims about
>> 9-11 and noted how you have no reasonable responses. For example, you have
>> no reasonable responses for this list about a video you claim "proves"
>> things but does not seem to exist:
>>

>> * No known copies exist in any library.
>> * No known copies exist in any PBS station.
>> * No known VCR copies exist.
>> * No listing of it can be found in any 1990 TV guide.
>> * No reason why it would be shown on a government network
>> * No known welder comments in 1969 as the towers were made.
>> * No known welder comments when the show was broadcast in 1990.
>> * No known welder comments after 9-11.
>> * No people related to these welders can be found speaking up.
>> * No explanation for why you changed your story about it's "series"
>> * No comment in the video about explosives you say it proves.
>> * No agency has been named which authorized special clearances.
>> * No name of any producer has been given.
>> * No name of anyone working on this video has been given.
>> * No reason given why explosives were not added after the welding
>> * Bilk has admitted not even he saw the video yet insists it is real.
>

> These are nonsense questions based on Snit's intentional
> "misunderstanding".

Where do you think I misunderstand? Do you think copies do still exist at
PBS stations? Do you think there are known VCR copies? Do you think the show
you spoke of can be found in the TV Guides from 1990?

Be specific! If you think I am wrong about those points then I am happy to
hear your point of view. But so far you you just snip those things. As I
said, I would be happy to have a reasoned conversation about those and if I
am wrong about one or more of the points I would be happy to see it - and
would publicly acknowledge my error and apologize if appropriate.

There is nothing about an "attack" in any of that.

> It is not possible to have a rational collegial discussion with him.

Perhaps if you seek the help I am suggesting for you then you will find it
possible. Until then I fear you are right, *for you* it is not possible to
have a reasonable discussion with me, or anyone. I know you see it as being
my fault - but the fact is, as can be seen in this very post of mine, I am
being very reasonable and open to you explaining your view and showing where
you think I am wrong or misunderstand you.

From all appearances, though, you simply have no reasoned response to those
points so you claim you are being "attacked" and blame me.

>> I have spoken of your claims of secret government agents "explaining" the
>> first point, but you have simply dodged the rest. To note this is not an
>> attack, it is simply an observation. I would love to have a reasoned
>> discussion with you where you explain these things.
>> But you know you cannot, so you feel "attacked".
>
> These are nonsense questions based on Snit's intentional
> "misunderstanding".
> It is not possible to have a rational collegial discussion with him.

You keep repeating this attack. As I have said, I am happy to drop my .sig
which speaks of your unsupported (and apparently unsupportable) views. But I
do hold some conditions (clarified from my past post):

1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as how I am paid
by MS to post or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer
*reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done wrong this is
fine.

2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and "liar")

3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business name attached
to your insults, attacks, and name calling.

4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting absurd
and unsupportable claims about the events of that day. Of note, if you
post things I *disagree* with that is fine, you simply have to stop
running from all questions and attacking those who disagree.

I do not ask for much - simply for you to stop behaving in such a
disreputable way.

>>> It's his choice. He's the proactive one, attacking me 50 or so
>>> times a day. I'm just responding occasionally. So it's up to him
>>> to stop doing it.
>>
>> Are you asking me to change my .sig to not reference your unsupportable
>> claims about 9-11? If so then I shall comply... as long as you do not bring
>> up your offensive claims about that event
>
> Anti-Linux propagandists like flatfish constantly challenge me about 9-11.
> That's why I talk about it here.
>
> If you, Snit, want to make a website supporting the government lies about
> 9-11, you're free to do so. I will not comment on it here. However, I may
> quote things from my website here. If you regard them as "offensive", then
> you can quote from various govt shill websites.

I do not mind you speaking of it. As I say, above:

4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting absurd
and unsupportable claims about the events of that day. Of note, if you
post things I *disagree* with that is fine, you simply have to stop
running from all questions and attacking those who disagree.

When you sink to name calling, pushing of absurd and unsupportable
accusations, and running from all questions about your claims about that
event then you are breaking this condition.

> Now if you were to cease referring to "the herd" and "the cult", which I find
> very offensive,

I find the herd, which is a cult-like group, to be offensive. If you do not
like the terms I use to describe these false "advocates" I am open to other
terms - as long as they are *honest* and reasonable. I have given many, many
examples of their herd or cult-like behavior.

> and cease changing Subject lines on pro-Linux threads,

I note when the false "advocates" post in a herd like way. I cannot help it
if you find that offensive and will not agree to cease such actions.

> and if you were to convince the other anti-Linux propagandists not to mention
> 9-11 here, then I would stop posting about 9-11.

I have no control over others - not even you. Remember, you are in control
of your own actions.

Also, let us note where you imply I am "anti-Linux" - which is incorrect.
Will you acknowledge your error? This is one of those accusations you make
against me often but *never* back it. Nor can you, given how I am very much
a supporter of Linux and open source software.

>> nor post your lies about me and others being paid by MS to post to COLA, and
>> you cease calling me names and making accusations you cannot support.
>>
> I will not post about you, Snit, being paid to post here. I'm not sure that
> you are.

I am not: yet you have made the accusation repeatedly. Good to see you admit
your past accusations have been unsupported.

> But various other ones are, or they wouldn't post 30,000+ lying anti- Linux
> articles here.

Your "evidence" here is no stronger than the evidence that you are paid by
the Underground Marshmallow People to post lies about 9-11. Don't like my
saying that... then stop making up stories about people being paid by MS to
post to COLA.

This is my choice: when you make up stories about people I hold open the
right to post equally silly stories about you. The difference, of course, is
I make it clear my stories are simply being made to mock your fictions...
unlike you I do not pretend they are real. In other words: unlike you I am
rational and honest. I will not sink to your level.

> I will not stop saying that, nor quoting the hate- words they
> use, and DFS's mission statement (which I think has gotten him fired).

You can say what you wish... though I find it bothersome you are saying you
will keep acting in ways you believe cause harm to others (this is one of
the things you say defines a psychopath!). But be aware that when you post
such silly claims I hold open the right to post equally silly claims about
you.

I shall not agree to let you post whatever silly claim you wish unanswered!

>> You should also apologize for your behavior: specifically calling me names
>> and accusing me of lying and seeding Google with my name and business name
>> and your attacks, but I will not hold that as a condition for altering my
>> .sig.
>
> You, Snit, have attacked, and I've only responded, in far fewer posts than
> you. I don't owe you any apology.

In the very post I respond to you repeatedly attack me and note your attacks
on others. To pretend you are the victim here would be dishonest.

But I am open to ending the silliness between us. Just remember the
conditions:

1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as how I am paid
by MS to post or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer
*reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done wrong this is
fine.

2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and "liar")

3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business name attached
to your insults, attacks, and name calling.

4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting absurd
and unsupportable claims about the events of that day. Of note, if you
post things I *disagree* with that is fine, you simply have to stop
running from all questions and attacking those who disagree.

Now I realize we are both human and might make mistakes. I also would say
that if one of us goofs and goes against this we not attack but gently
remind the other of the lapse and try to go forward in good faith.

What do you say? Are you willing to work toward being reasonable and
peaceful? I am. I want the attacks and insults and other nonsense to end.

How about you?


--
> As for Stallman, he is a repulsive person by any standard of decency.
... standard of decency or hygiene.
-- Lusotec

[flatfish+++]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:


> Anti-Linux propagandists like flatfish constantly challenge me about
> 9-11.
> That's why I talk about it here.

The more you talk Mark, the more it becomes apparent how wrong you
and your "sources" are.

The minute you mention people like Alex Jones, your credibility goes
down the drain.

You are completely crazy Mark S. Bilk and nobody will reach any other
conclusion.

Snit and others have done a real good job of exposing how ridiculous
your claims are. Your evidence is lame at best and just a minute
amount of basic logic and common sense is all that is needed to
expose you for what you truly are.

A nut.

--
flatfish+++
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 2:07 PM, in article 13zokwbw4oiz8.1...@40tude.net,

"flatfish+++" <phlat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 16 May 2013 13:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> Anti-Linux propagandists like flatfish constantly challenge me about 9-11.
>> That's why I talk about it here.
>>
> The more you talk Mark, the more it becomes apparent how wrong you and your
> "sources" are.
>
> The minute you mention people like Alex Jones, your credibility goes down the
> drain.
>
> You are completely crazy Mark S. Bilk and nobody will reach any other
> conclusion.
>
> Snit and others have done a real good job of exposing how ridiculous your
> claims are. Your evidence is lame at best and just a minute amount of basic
> logic and common sense is all that is needed to expose you for what you truly
> are.
>
> A nut.

My conditions for Bilk are clear (the "you" being referenced is Bilk):

1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as how I am paid
by MS to post or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer
*reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done wrong this is
fine.

2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and "liar").

3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business name attached
to your insults, attacks, and name calling.

4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting absurd
and unsupportable claims about the events of that day. Of note, if you
post things I *disagree* with that is fine, you simply have to stop
running from all questions and attacking those who disagree.

With each of those, though, Bilk is not showing he can stop himself.

With 1) He keeps making accusations - though he has acknowledged he does not
know if *I* am paid by MS. He refuses to cease making other accusations
against me and suggests he will make that specific accusation against you
and others. If he does I hold open the option to respond (such as noting it
is just as likely he is paid by the UMP as it is you are paid by MS).

With 2) He has continued to call me such things even in the discussion about
how he wants to end the bickering.

With 3) He continues to seed Google with my name, though he has stopped
seeding it with my business name.

With 4) He has not agreed to stop doing making claims about the events on
9-11 and those that lead up to it without being able to back his claims.

I sincerely hope he agrees to those points. While the bickering can be
amusing at times, it does get tiresome. I also am sincere in my offer to
help him find professional help in his area so he can get the counseling he
apparently needs.

--
"There's a mountain of evidence that I've committed forgeries."
- Brad cc Wiggins

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 12:56 PM, in article

2f38d3d5-18f1-4164...@oy9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> If Snit Michael Glasser stops attacking me, if he stops mentioning
> me or my website or anything I've ever said, in any of his Usenet
> posts, websites, or anything else he writes, then I will stop
> posting about him.

Snipping all your insults and attacks and insinuations, Bilk, this is your
"offer": I have to stop mentioning anything you have ever said or you will
see it as an attack and you will post about *me*... not about my ideas or my
views or my opinions. About *me*.

My counter offer has been clear:

1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as how I am paid
by MS to post or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer
*reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done wrong this is
fine.

2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and "liar").

3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business name attached
to your insults, attacks, and name calling.

4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting absurd
and unsupportable claims about the events of that day. Of note, if you
post things I *disagree* with that is fine, you simply have to stop
running from all questions and attacking those who disagree.

Do those things and I will not put my .sig back to what it was, nor will I
question you on things you do not speak of *again*. But if you speak of your
ideas about the events of 9-11 and what lead up to that day I will feel free
to question you about it and point out why I think your claims are
unsupportable and self-refuting; make accusations against me or others and I
will feel free to respond by asking you to back your accusations (something
you repeatedly fail to do) and make equally absurd accusations against you -
though if I do so I will do as I have and make it clear I am merely mocking
your irrationality - I will not sink to your level and pretend these things
are real or supportable; seed Google with my personal and business name and
I will feel free to return the .sig that clearly has you so upset.

This is the deal. Take it or leave it. Clearly you are the one more bothered
by our little spat than I am.

--
"Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my
corpse, the first being scientific or medical use." -- Richard Stallman

[Mark S Bilk]

Snit, I'm answering both of your recent posts here.

You want to go on trashing cola by hiding pro-Linux threads
by posting with a changed Subject line. That is psychopath
behavior -- forcing your will on others -- especially since
you are the invader here in a Linux newsgroup.

I will not agree to that.

You want to keep calling Linux users (at least the ones in cola)
"the herd" or "the cult". We aren't -- we disagree about many
things. So you are lying, and you do it dozens of times a day.
That is also trashing the newsgroup, but you can do it in the
article body, not in the Subject line.

I won't stop calling you a liar when you are lying.

Incidentally, if you go back to using Stallman as your chronic
attack target, there is no deal either. And yes, selectively
quoting him is an attack.

I will call you an anti-desktop-laptop-Linux propagandist,
because you are.

> My conditions for Bilk are clear (the "you" being referenced
> is Bilk):
>

> 1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as
> how I am paid by MS to post

I will stop saying that. I will not stop saying it about
the anti-Linux invaders here in general, since no matter how
crazy they are, they wouldn't post their lies and hate more
than 30,000 times without being paid for it. Excuse me for
saying so, Snit, but I think that you _are_ that crazy.

> or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer
> *reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done
> wrong this is fine.

No deal. You almost never agree to having lied.

> 2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and
> "liar").

I won't call you a psychopath if you stop changing thread
titles, and stop saying I "need help", etc. You can call us
"herd" and "cult" if you want, but only in the article body,
not the Subject line. You are the invader here.

> 3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business
> name attached to your insults, attacks, and name calling.

Yes, if you meet my other conditions.

> 4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting
> absurd and unsupportable claims about the events of that day.

This video proves that the towers were blown up by explosives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

This report proves that high-tech thermite was planted in them:

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf

There's no way the arabs could have done either of those things.

All the PBS video does is give strong evidence for how and
when the explosives were planted. Otherwise they'd have
to have been planted a few weeks before the event, with the
security guards told they were putting in new computer cables
and had to tear up the walls. (The guards _were_ told that,
but only the detonators needed to be planted.) Not as easy
to do, but it could have been done that way.

All of your objections to the PBS video are nonsense. It was
shown 23 years ago, and nobody knows today, or probably knew
then, the answers to the stupid nit-picking questions you've
repeated thousands of times.

> Of note, if you post things I *disagree* with that is fine,
> you simply have to stop running from all questions and
> attacking those who disagree.

No deal. To you, Snit, "running from questions" means refusing
to discuss your garbage, which would be a fulltime job. In
general, I will not have any conversations with you.

> He refuses to cease making other accusations against me and
> suggests he will make that specific accusation against you
> and others. If he does I hold open the option to respond
> (such as noting it is just as likely he is paid by the UMP
> as it is you are paid by MS).

That's fine. The UMP stuff makes you look _really_ stupid!

> With 2) He has continued to call me such things even in
> the discussion about how he wants to end the bickering.
> With 3) He continues to seed Google with my name, though he
> has stopped seeding it with my business name.

Too bad, Snit-hole, that's what you've been doing to me,
hundreds of times. My website is my business, which is telling
the truth.

> With 4) He has not agreed to stop doing making claims about
> the events on 9-11 and those that lead up to it without
> being able to back his claims.

No, and I won't agree. See above. My claims are backed up.

> I sincerely hope he agrees to those points. While the
> bickering can be amusing at times,

True, for a person of your, er, type.

> I also am sincere in my offer to help him find professional
> help in his area so he can get the counseling he apparently
> needs.

As long as you keep saying I need mental counseling, etc. which
I don't, I will keep saying that you are a psychopath, which
you are.

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 3:37 PM, in article
de0c70ea-fcc1-4b93...@tz3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> Snit, I'm answering both of your recent posts here.
>
> You want to go on trashing cola by hiding pro-Linux threads
> by posting with a changed Subject line.

This is a false accusation and goes against condition #1:

1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as how I am paid

by MS to post or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer

*reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done wrong this is
fine.

Specifically, I am not "trashing cola" nor am I "hiding pro-Linux threads".
These are unsupportable claims on your part.

> That is psychopath behavior -- forcing your will on others -- especially since
> you are the invader here in a Linux newsgroup.

Here you go against condition #1, making accusations, and also condition #2:

2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and "liar").

To be clear: I have not forced my will on anyone else. You also make the
absurd claim that I am an "invader" in an open forum. This is another
unsupportable accusation on your part.

> I will not agree to that.

I did not expect you to act in a reasonable way, so this comes as no
surprise.

> You want to keep calling Linux users (at least the ones in cola)
> "the herd" or "the cult".

I have made it clear that if you can offer a better term you prefer I am
open to it *if* it is honest.

But, of note, your accusation is incorrect: I do not say all Linux users,
even the ones just in COLA, are a part of the herd. Specifically, *I* am not
a part of it (though there are others). I am a Linux user.

Again you are making claims which are demonstrably incorrect.

> We aren't -- we disagree about many things. So you are lying, and you do it
> dozens of times a day.

Here you accuse me of lying but offer no examples. Nor will you. This is a
part of your habit: making accusations you cannot back.

> That is also trashing the newsgroup, but you can do it
> in the article body, not in the Subject line.

More attacks by you. You attack people and then try to twist things by
saying you are being attacked.

> I won't stop calling you a liar when you are lying.

If you *really* believed that you would be able to show what I have lied
about. Since you have not - and clearly cannot - there is no reason to
believe you believe this.

> Incidentally, if you go back to using Stallman as your chronic
> attack target, there is no deal either. And yes, selectively
> quoting him is an attack.

Are you saying if I stop quoting Stallman you will agree to my four
conditions?

1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as how I am paid

by MS to post or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer

*reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done wrong this is
fine.

2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and "liar").

3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business name attached
to your insults, attacks, and name calling.

4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting absurd

and unsupportable claims about the events of that day. Of note, if you

post things I *disagree* with that is fine, you simply have to stop
running from all questions and attacking those who disagree.

Seems not. So what deal are you even talking about?

By the way, I will *not* agree to avoid speaking of Stallman's repulsive
wishes to have porn, including child porn, be made available in public
schools, nor his grotesque claims that to censor this material would be
harmful to children. These are simple facts about a man who is often
discussed in COLA and there is no reason to bury these facts.

> I will call you an anti-desktop-laptop-Linux propagandist,
> because you are.

If you believed that then you would show examples. Of note, you *never* do.
There is no reason to believe you actually think your accusation is true.

You are merely pushing attacks - the very thing you accuse me of doing but
cannot find examples of.

>> My conditions for Bilk are clear (the "you" being referenced
>> is Bilk):
>>
>> 1) You stop making accusations you refuse to back (such as
>> how I am paid by MS to post
>
> I will stop saying that.

Just the one example or all accusations you refuse to back?

> I will not stop saying it about the anti-Linux invaders here in general, since
> no matter how crazy they are, they wouldn't post their lies and hate more than
> 30,000 times without being paid for it. Excuse me for saying so, Snit, but I
> think that you _are_ that crazy.

Remember: the evidence you push to back your unsupportable claim here is no
stronger than the claim that you are paid by the Underground Marshmallow
People to post to COLA. So as long as you post your attacks I will feel free
to respond in kind, the difference being I do so *honestly* and do not
pretend such nonsense is real.

>> or how I am a "liar"). Of note, if you can actually offer
>> *reasoned* and *supportable* claims of where I have done
>> wrong this is fine.
>
> No deal.

Of course not: you enjoy attacking people with accusations you cannot back.

> You almost never agree to having lied.

Can you point to an example where you have shown I lied and I denied it? Of
course *not*! I do not "agree" to having lied because I do not lie. I do
sometimes make mistakes and when I do I admit to them.

>> 2) You stop calling me names (such as "psychopath" and
>> "liar").
>
> I won't call you a psychopath if you stop changing thread
> titles, and stop saying I "need help", etc. You can call us
> "herd" and "cult" if you want, but only in the article body,
> not the Subject line. You are the invader here.

Again: you attack me by saying I am the "invader". I am no more than anyone
else.

As far as changing thread titles, the title of this thread is currently one
*you* changed it to. You change thread titles as well. There is no reason
for me to not point out herd-pleasing behavior in thread titles.

>> 3) You stop seeding Google with my personal and business
>> name attached to your insults, attacks, and name calling.
>
> Yes, if you meet my other conditions.

Interesting morals you show there: you will stop attacking me and trying to
affect my life outside of COLA if and only if I meet conditions you set, no
matter how baseless and unsupportable they are.

You are not acting in good faith there!

>> 4) For you to stop dishonoring the victims of 9-11 by posting
>> absurd and unsupportable claims about the events of that day.
>
> This video proves that the towers were blown up by explosives:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

This is not in any way true. The video "proves" no such thing.

> This report proves that high-tech thermite was planted in them:
>
> http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf

This is not in any way true. The video "proves" no such thing.

> There's no way the arabs could have done either of those things.
>
> All the PBS video does is give strong evidence for how and
> when the explosives were planted.

There is no reason to believe there was any such PBS video - and good reason
to believe there was not. For example: it does not show up in the TV Guide
of the year you said it was shown! All sorts of other problems with your
claims, including:

* No known copies exist in any library.
* No known copies exist in any PBS station.
* No known VCR copies exist.
* No listing of it can be found in any 1990 TV guide.
* No reason why it would be shown on a government network
* No known welder comments in 1969 as the towers were made.
* No known welder comments when the show was broadcast in 1990.
* No known welder comments after 9-11.
* No people related to these welders can be found speaking up.
* No explanation for why you changed your story about it's "series"
* No comment in the video about explosives you say it proves.
* No agency has been named which authorized special clearances.
* No name of any producer has been given.
* No name of anyone working on this video has been given.
* No reason given why explosives were not added after the welding
* Bilk has admitted not even he saw the video yet insists it is real.

When shown this list you snip it. You cannot back your claims. They are
silly.

> Otherwise they'd have to have been planted a few weeks before the event, with
> the security guards told they were putting in new computer cables and had to
> tear up the walls. (The guards _were_ told that, but only the detonators
> needed to be planted.) Not as easy to do, but it could have been done that
> way.
>
> All of your objections to the PBS video are nonsense. It was shown 23 years
> ago, and nobody knows today, or probably knew then, the answers to the stupid
> nit-picking questions you've repeated thousands of times.

Nobody knows why it does not exist in any library or PBS station or on any
VCR? Nobody knows how it was removed from every TV Guide in any collection
anywhere? Nobody knows why the government would show it on its own network
then hide it. Nobody knows why people in the video would complain about
their jobs but none of them or their families did any place else, even after
9-11.

Right: there are no answers to these questions and the others I pose because
your claims are unsupportable. They are nonsense. You claim this is
"nit-picking"... it is not nit-picking to note how you are pushing utter
nonsense which is grossly disrespectful to the victims of 9-11. It is not
"nit-picking" to note how you run every time you see that list.

It is not attacking you to note how these facts are true. It is not
attacking you to respond to your unsupportable claims with facts and
questions you do not like.

We have gone round and round and round with your absurd and faulty "proof",
and I discuss it in quite some detail here: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>

You have no reasonable response to the comments made there - you just repeat
the same unsupportable claims over and over.

>> Of note, if you post things I *disagree* with that is fine,
>> you simply have to stop running from all questions and
>> attacking those who disagree.
>
> No deal.

Right: you will insist on pushing absurd claims and then running from any
questions which are asked of you.

> To you, Snit, "running from questions" means refusing to discuss your garbage,
> which would be a fulltime job. In general, I will not have any conversations
> with you.

But you will attack me. This you have proved. And you will make absurd
claims you cannot back, as demonstrated above.

>> He refuses to cease making other accusations against me and
>> suggests he will make that specific accusation against you
>> and others. If he does I hold open the option to respond
>> (such as noting it is just as likely he is paid by the UMP
>> as it is you are paid by MS).
>
> That's fine. The UMP stuff makes you look _really_ stupid!

The point is the "UMP stuff" is no more absurd than your 9-11 claims and
your claims about people being paid by MS to post to COLA. The difference is
I am honest and sane enough to know the "UMP stuff" is silly... you are
irrational enough to believe your claims make sense.

This is why I suggest you seek professional help. I even offered to help you
find some.

>> With 2) He has continued to call me such things even in
>> the discussion about how he wants to end the bickering.
>> With 3) He continues to seed Google with my name, though he
>> has stopped seeding it with my business name.
>
> Too bad, Snit-hole, that's what you've been doing to me,
> hundreds of times. My website is my business, which is telling
> the truth.

You are the one who brings your fictional stories about 9-11 to COLA. And,
no, it is not a business site... or are you claiming to make money from the
nonsense the UMP pay you to spread?

>> With 4) He has not agreed to stop doing making claims about
>> the events on 9-11 and those that lead up to it without
>> being able to back his claims.
>
> No, and I won't agree. See above. My claims are backed up.

It is a direct lie from you to say you have backed up your claims. You run
from questions and facts you do not like.

>> I sincerely hope he agrees to those points. While the
>> bickering can be amusing at times,
>
> True, for a person of your, er, type.

My "type"... someone who finds it interesting to watch people as irrational
as you. OK.

>> I also am sincere in my offer to help him find professional
>> help in his area so he can get the counseling he apparently
>> needs.
>
> As long as you keep saying I need mental counseling, etc. which
> I don't, I will keep saying that you are a psychopath, which
> you are.

I say you apparently need it - which your posts show to be the case, even
the one I respond to.

Just to be clear: are you saying all deals are off and I should go back to
using the old .sig of mine? I do not want to do that until I am absolutely
sure that is what you mean. Tell you what: as long as you do not post any
attacks or lies about me, nor call me names, nor dishonor the victims of
9-11 with your crack pot claims, I will not put my .sig back to that, even
with your noting you do not agree to be reasonable, as I asked you to be.

No response needed: your actions will be your response.


--
Summary of cc's statistical BS: <http://tinyurl.com/7rwazxw>
Details on cc's "outliers" BS: <http://tinyurl.com/84r3ypq>
More on cc's ignorance about outliers: <http://tinyurl.com/7vyhttc>
Four method compared to cc's absurd claims: <http://tinyurl.com/7efkuzm>
Details on cc's sigma and R^2 BS: <http://tinyurl.com/7vambev>

[Mark S Bilk]

o I will stop talking/writing/posting anywhere about Snit
or his website.

o Snit will stop talking/writing/posting anywhere about: me, my
website, Stallman (including quoting him), or any Linux user(s)
being part of a "herd", "cult", or anything with a similar meaning.

o Snit will stop posting to COLA, period. Snit is an
anti-desktop-laptop-Linux propagandist, so is an invader here.
There's no way to put specific limits on his posting that would
stop him from trashing the newsgroup, so it must be a complete halt.
Perhaps he could go back to CSMA, since Macs are his preference.

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 7:54 PM, in article
277433f8-5107-4b71...@vx13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

I will speak the truth no matter how much you show off the actions you
describe as those of a "psychopath". Your being a self-described psychopath
shall not control me.

But I will say this: as long as you are not seeding Google with my personal
and business name the old .sig will not come back. As soon as you sink back
to doing so, the old .sig is fair game. None of that implies I cannot speak
of your dishonoring of the 9-11 victims, nor of your fantasies about MS
paying for people to post to COLA, nor your insults and attacks and lies
about me or anyone else.

Bilk, seek help: you are a self-described psychopath who has claimed others
control your actions and that you were hated by your parents, your teachers,
your school principal, and the staff at your summer camp.

My offer to help you find free psychological help stands. Just email me and
I will do what I can to help you. This is a serious offer... and I am very
sincere when I say it certainly appears that you need psychological
counseling. Consider it. And I will grant you this - if you do email me I
will keep it confidential... I will not let others know about the help I
assist you in finding. Or find it on your own. Just get the help you need.


--
Brad cc Wiggins:
-----
Clearly, I don't understand what I read.
-----

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 7:54 PM, in article

277433f8-5107-4b71...@vx13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

By the way, when you break your word here and try to make some other offer
with me, do not be surprised when I remind you how your previous offers
demonstrated how you act in ways you describe as those of a psychopath and
how you are breaking your word to make *any* offer with me.

That, of course, will not stop me from calling you out on your lies, your
disrespectful nonsense about 9-11, your name calling, your fairy tales of
people being paid by MS to post to COLA, about Stallman's repulsive
comments, or any other other topic I see fit to speak about including how
herd-like the false "advocates" of COLA act.

In other words: the fact you self-describe yourself as a psychopath will not
stop me from being honest and honorable. You are not the first dishonest
person to beg me to stop calling you out on their BS... nor will you likely
be the last. I will remain honest and honorable no matter how much you beg.


--
"All of these acts [prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality,
possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia] should be
legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of
prejudice and narrowmindedness." -- Richard Stallman

[Mark S Bilk]

On May 16, 8:20 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/13 7:54 PM, in article

> 277433f8-5107-4b71-b2f4-1c803111d...@vx13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

>
> Bilk" <m...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
> > o I will stop talking/writing/posting anywhere about Snit
> > or his website.
>
> > o Snit will stop talking/writing/posting anywhere about: me, my
> > website, Stallman (including quoting him), or any Linux user(s)
> > being part of a "herd", "cult", or anything with a similar meaning.
>
> > o Snit will stop posting to COLA, period. Snit is an
> > anti-desktop-laptop-Linux propagandist, so is an invader here.
> > There's no way to put specific limits on his posting that would
> > stop him from trashing the newsgroup, so it must be a complete halt.
> > Perhaps he could go back to CSMA, since Macs are his preference.
>
> I will speak the truth no matter how much you show off the actions you
> describe as those of a "psychopath". Your being a self-described psychopath
> shall not control me.

I described myself as having been attacked by various people
in my childhood. I have never been a psychopath -- a person
who lies, harms others, and has no conscience nor empathy.

Snit Michael Glasser _is_ a psychopath, exhibiting all those
characteristics. By lying about he, he hopes to confuse the
audience.

> But I will say this: as long as you are not seeding Google with my personal
> and business name the old .sig will not come back. As soon as you sink back
> to doing so, the old .sig is fair game. None of that implies I cannot speak
> of your dishonoring of the 9-11 victims, nor of your fantasies about MS
> paying for people to post to COLA, nor your insults and attacks and lies
> about me or anyone else.

Snit is lying, as always.

Have at you, Snit Michael Glasser!

> Bilk, seek help: you are a self-described psychopath

No, the exact opposite. I was attacked in childhood by various
people, whose cruelty was validated by others. Snit is lying,
as always.

> who has claimed others control your actions

No, I have _never_ said anything like that. Snit is totally lying!

> and that you were hated by your parents, your teachers,
> your school principal, and the staff at your summer camp.

My parents, and _some_, not all, teachers hated me. Some teachers
were good human beings and treated me and the other kids well.
The principal and summer camp staff were mostly cold and robotic.
My aunts, uncles, and the parents of some of my friends liked me
a lot.

Snit Michael Glasser is lying, as always, in order to attack me,
the person he is psychopathically targeting.

> My offer to help you find free psychological help stands.

Utter nonsense. I find it worrisome that the world is mostly
controlled by powerful organized psychopaths. So do all the
researchers I mentioned previously. That's why they wrote books
and/or made movies and websites about it.

They completely validate my understanding of the world, as do the
murders of many millions of people by the U.S. government.

Anyone who ignores the publications of all those researchers, or
ignores the millions of people murdered by the US govt, is a victim
of corporate media brainwashing who is ignoring reality, just as
they were programmed to do. Or they're a psychopath who doesn't
care about other people.

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 9:14 PM, in article
c1220b74-3227-4c17...@d8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> On May 16, 8:20 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/16/13 7:54 PM, in article
>> 277433f8-5107-4b71-b2f4-1c803111d...@vx13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S
>>
>> Bilk" <m...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
>>> o I will stop talking/writing/posting anywhere about Snit
>>> or his website.
>>
>>> o Snit will stop talking/writing/posting anywhere about: me, my
>>> website, Stallman (including quoting him), or any Linux user(s)
>>> being part of a "herd", "cult", or anything with a similar meaning.
>>
>>> o Snit will stop posting to COLA, period. Snit is an
>>> anti-desktop-laptop-Linux propagandist, so is an invader here.
>>> There's no way to put specific limits on his posting that would
>>> stop him from trashing the newsgroup, so it must be a complete halt.
>>> Perhaps he could go back to CSMA, since Macs are his preference.
>>
>> I will speak the truth no matter how much you show off the actions you
>> describe as those of a "psychopath". Your being a self-described psychopath
>> shall not control me.
>
> I described myself as having been attacked by various people
> in my childhood.

And you felt you were hated.

> I have never been a psychopath -- a person who lies, harms others, and has no
> conscience nor empathy.

You show the qualities of what you describe as a psychopath: you repeatedly
lie, you work to harm others, and you show no sign of having empathy or
conscience... likely tied to how you felt you were hated by your parents,
your teachers, your principal, your camp staff, and no doubt many more.

> Snit Michael Glasser _is_ a psychopath, exhibiting all those
> characteristics. By lying about he, he hopes to confuse the
> audience.

See: you make this claim but offer no examples... and you never have. And
you have gone back to seeding Google with my name... not cool. So the old
.sig is fair game. Remember, that was the deal I made with you. You stop
doing that one act you describe as "psychopathic" and I would not use my
.sig. You could not help yourself.

You have very poor self control.

Still, I have many good .sigs and no use having you be in them all - but
yours are now added to the randomly selected ones.

Apologize and acknowledge your wrong doing on this and I shall remove them.

>> But I will say this: as long as you are not seeding Google with my personal
>> and business name the old .sig will not come back. As soon as you sink back
>> to doing so, the old .sig is fair game. None of that implies I cannot speak
>> of your dishonoring of the 9-11 victims, nor of your fantasies about MS
>> paying for people to post to COLA, nor your insults and attacks and lies
>> about me or anyone else.
>
> Snit is lying, as always.
>
> Have at you, Snit Michael Glasser!

See: again you claim I am lying but cannot say what I am lying about.

>> Bilk, seek help: you are a self-described psychopath
>
> No, the exact opposite. I was attacked in childhood by various
> people, whose cruelty was validated by others. Snit is lying,
> as always.

You have just described yourself as having a "persecution complex" - which
is yet another reason you should seek professional help. Really.

>> who has claimed others control your actions
>
> No, I have _never_ said anything like that. Snit is totally lying!

You claimed it was up to others how you acted:
-----

They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll have to
repost.

-----

See: you claimed that because others changed a subject line you *have to
repost*. Have to. You believed others were controlling you and that you were
not responsible for your own actions.

Another sign you need to seek professional help.

But here: I made a claim and you said I was lying. It was up to me to
support my claim... and I did. This is something you do not do... you just
run. You cannot back your accusations.

>> and that you were hated by your parents, your teachers,
>> your school principal, and the staff at your summer camp.
>
> My parents, and _some_, not all, teachers hated me.

But multiple teachers. Not just one. And you do not deny the others. As I
said, you show the signs of a having a "persecution complex"

> Some teachers were good human beings and treated me and the other kids well.
> The principal and summer camp staff were mostly cold and robotic. My aunts,
> uncles, and the parents of some of my friends liked me a lot.
>
> Snit Michael Glasser is lying, as always, in order to attack me,
> the person he is psychopathically targeting.

See: you toss out accusations and insults - just as you describe a
psychopath doing. You are a self-described psychopath who demonstrates a
persecution complex and claims to believe delusional stories about historic
events.

But you deny you need to seek professional help.

>> My offer to help you find free psychological help stands.
>
> Utter nonsense.

It is not nonsense. The offer is a real one. But you do not believe it. You
do not trust. This is another sign of you having a persecution complex.

> I find it worrisome that the world is mostly controlled by powerful organized
> psychopaths. So do all the researchers I mentioned previously. That's why
> they wrote books and/or made movies and websites about it.

More evidence of your delusions and your persecution complex. You cannot
help but show it off.

> They completely validate my understanding of the world, as do the murders of
> many millions of people by the U.S. government.

If you really believed your claims you would be happy to answer questions
about them. While I do think some part of you is delusional enough to
believe what you say, another part is clearly well aware how irrational you
are. This leads to a lot of internal stress that comes out in many of your
posts.

> Anyone who ignores the publications of all those researchers, or ignores the
> millions of people murdered by the US govt, is a victim of corporate media
> brainwashing who is ignoring reality, just as they were programmed to do. Or
> they're a psychopath who doesn't care about other people.

As I said, you show the signs of having a persecution complex... you simply
cannot stop yourself from showing it.



--
Bilk is a self-described psychopath who has claimed others control his
actions and that he was hated by his parents, many of his teachers, his
school principal, and the staff at his summer camp.

Bilk should seek professional help for his issues.

[White Spirit]

On Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:48:28 UTC+1, Snit wrote:

> On 5/16/13 12:29 PM, in article kn3bqv$lp7$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"

> <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:

> > Do the world a favour: Go to the next shop, buy a decent rope and just
> > simply hang yourself. That way the rest of the world is spared your quoting
> > of the lunatic shite from Snit Michael Glasser

> While I agree with Peter about Bilk's fantasies about 9-11 being nonsense, I
> disagree with his wishes that you harm yourself.

It says a lot about Koehlmann that he would write such a thing. In fact, it rather brings to mind the regime his country had in the '30s and '40s - they were also in favour of people they didn't like simply disappearing. It's thoroughly shameful.

[Snit]

On 5/17/13 1:05 AM, in article
470f6e2d-3b1b-4162...@googlegroups.com, "White Spirit"

<wulfg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:48:28 UTC+1, Snit wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/13 12:29 PM, in article kn3bqv$lp7$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter

>> K�hlmann"

>> <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>>> Do the world a favour: Go to the next shop, buy a decent rope and just
>>> simply hang yourself. That way the rest of the world is spared your quoting
>>> of the lunatic shite from Snit Michael Glasser
>
>> While I agree with Peter about Bilk's fantasies about 9-11 being nonsense, I
>> disagree with his wishes that you harm yourself.
>
> It says a lot about Koehlmann that he would write such a thing. In fact, it
> rather brings to mind the regime his country had in the '30s and '40s - they
> were also in favour of people they didn't like simply disappearing. It's
> thoroughly shameful.

Bilk also uses such techniques, working to dehumanize the people he attacks
- going so far as to directly insist they are "not human".



--
"There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major
reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to
be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred."
-- Linus Torvalds

[Mark S Bilk]

On May 17, 7:01 am, Snit Michael Glasser
http://prescottcomputerguy.com
wrote:
> ...

> Bilk also uses such techniques, working to dehumanize the
> people he attacks - going so far as to directly insist they
> are "not human".

Psychopaths have no conscience, no empathy, no remorse, and
they lie and cheat constantly. They enjoy controlling and
exploiting people. So they don't _act_ like human beings.

Therefore I, and some of the people who research psychopaths,
say that they are not human. Some psychopaths even have brain
abnormalities in the area responsible for empathy and similar
warm emotions.

Psychopaths are parasites. Although they readily interbreed
with human beings, they're like a different species -- a very
dangerous species. Many of them (but not Snit) can pass for
human and by lying and cheating can reach positions of great
power.

Whether psychopaths should be considered human is partly a matter
of definition. In the past, when their actions were exposed,
they might have been thought of as possessed by an evil demon.

But now we have computers, and we can see two computers with
identical hardware, but different software. A computer running
malware that sends out viruses and spam, and only does harm,
could be seen as a metaphor for a psychopath.

Psychopaths have the same hardware as a normal person (in some
cases, at least), but very different software.

So if you define "human being" just by the hardware -- the body
and the DNA -- then psychopaths are human.

But if you define "human being" by their thoughts and actions
also, as in the word "humane" -- "showing evidence of moral and
intellectual advancement", if that is your idea of "human being",
then psychopaths are not human.

Psychopathy in Politics and Finance
Stefan Verstappen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eKqs7GJ0jdY

[Snit]

On 5/17/13 9:26 AM, in article
8be40c9d-1b23-44f0...@k8g2000pbf.googlegroups.com, "Mark S

Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> On May 17, 7:01 am, Snit Michael Glasser
> http://prescottcomputerguy.com
> wrote:
>> ...
>> Bilk also uses such techniques, working to dehumanize the
>> people he attacks - going so far as to directly insist they
>> are "not human".
>
> Psychopaths have no conscience, no empathy, no remorse, and
> they lie and cheat constantly.

You lie and claim I am invading COLA. You make accusations you cannot back.
You make absurd claims about 9-11 and run from questions. All of this shows
you lack any sign of conscience or empathy or remorse and you lie and cheat
repeatedly. You whine when others change subject lines but you do that, too.

You, Bilk, are describing yourself as having the qualities of a psychopath,
as you define them.

> They enjoy controlling and exploiting people.

You repeatedly tried to make "deals" with me to stop asking you questions
about your fantasies about 9-11 and trying to get me to stop posting to
COLA. You repeatedly tried to control me. Your use of seeding Google with my
name and business name is a form of exploitation.

You, Bilk, are describing yourself as having the qualities of a psychopath,
as you define them.

> So they don't _act_ like human beings.

You do not feel like you are a complete human being. You feel like you are
hated by those around you. Just some of the people you have claimed hate
you:

* Your parents, some quotes from you:
- My parents were quite cruel to me, falsely blaming me for "all the
problems in the family"
- They claimed I was mentally ill
- They hated me for "talking back" to them
- They hated me for evading them when they were trying to hit me.
* Your summer school staff, some quoted from you:
- Lunch was always sandwiches on white bread that had been kept cold
by putting a block of ice directly on top of them. That made the
bread very soggy and it stuck to the roof of my mouth and made me
vomit. The camp operator hated me for vomiting, told my parents,
and they hated me for it too.
* Your teachers and school principal, some quotes from you:
- When I was sent to public school, some of the teachers absolutely
hated their students.
- Another teacher was rounding numbers wrongly, and when I politely
pointed it out, citing the textbook, he sent me to the principal
who called my parents, who of course were very angry with me.
* Religious people, some quotes from you:
- Another cause of the infusion of psychopathy into our culture is
the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion, whose sole deity is a
genocidal psychopath.
* Many others:
- I realized that there were a lot of cruel people in the world
- He included people in COLA, including Snit (who has offered to
help him!) and Flatfish
- Psychopaths have no conscience, no empathy, no remorse, and they
lie and cheat constantly.

You see people as hating you and as being evil... as being "psychopaths",
even though you use the term incorrectly.

But the bottom line is you describe *your own actions* as being
psychopathic.

> Therefore I, and some of the people who research psychopaths,
> say that they are not human.

You feel you, showing all of these signs, are not human. You are. You are a
person deserving of respect - and that starts with yourself.

This is why I encourage you to get professional help. I have even told you I
would be happy to assist you in getting that help.

> Some psychopaths even have brain abnormalities in the area responsible for
> empathy and similar warm emotions.

Is that what you feel causes your problems?

> Psychopaths are parasites.

You can learn to see yourself differently. You can learn to be different.
You can learn to stop attacking people, Bilk, and stop looking at the world
as such a dangerous place where everyone hates you.

> Although they readily interbreed with human beings, they're like a different
> species -- a very dangerous species. Many of them (but not Snit) can pass for
> human and by lying and cheating can reach positions of great power.

You are speaking of yourself, Bilk. You feel hated and persecuted.

You should seek out help.

Seriously.

> Whether psychopaths should be considered human is partly a matter
> of definition. In the past, when their actions were exposed,
> they might have been thought of as possessed by an evil demon.

Did your parents, who you say hated you for your rejection of their
religion, tell you that you were possessed by such demons?

> But now we have computers, and we can see two computers with
> identical hardware, but different software. A computer running
> malware that sends out viruses and spam, and only does harm,
> could be seen as a metaphor for a psychopath.

This is how you describe yourself. This is why you need help. This is why I
encourage you to seek help and make a sincere offer to help you find it.

> Psychopaths have the same hardware as a normal person (in some
> cases, at least), but very different software.
>
> So if you define "human being" just by the hardware -- the body
> and the DNA -- then psychopaths are human.

As opposed to the Underground Marshmallow People who pay you to post to
COLA? :)

> But if you define "human being" by their thoughts and actions
> also, as in the word "humane" -- "showing evidence of moral and
> intellectual advancement", if that is your idea of "human being",
> then psychopaths are not human.

Do you feel you can ever learn to be human or do you feel it is too late for
you?


--
"I have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds

[Clogwog]

Snit wrote:
> On 5/16/13 10:22 AM, in article kn34bv$adi$1...@dont-email.me, "Clogwog"
> <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> On 5/16/13 8:26 AM, in article
>>> 64d38f1d-5e19-4f18...@n5g2000pbg.googlegroups.com,

>>> "Mark S Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
>>>

>>>> On May 16, 8:22 am, flatfish+++ <phlatph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>>>>> On May 16, 8:08 am, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1...@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>>>> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o'
>>>>>>> wisdom:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just plonk the fellow, Mark. He's another word-twisting cruel
>>>>>>> bastard, and anyone who deals with hims soon learns that.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not worth getting spun up by his nonsnse.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris and White Spirit! But I'm not upset,
>>>>>> just explaining what's going on with Snit, and
>>>>>> on our planet at large. I think it's important
>>>>>> for folks to know why millions of people are being
>>>>>> murdered, and billions are being robbed, on
>>>>>> Planet Earth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those Lizard People of yours really get around, Mark S. Bilk!
>>>>
>>>> They were, but now they've taken up residence in your bedroom
>>>> closet, Gary. At night, they're going to come out and GET YOU!
>>>
>>> But you, Bilk, are safe - your work for the Underground Marshmallow
>>> People means they will protect you from the Lizard people.
>>
>> :-? No kidding Snit, does Bilk really believe there are "Underground
>> Marshmallow People", "Lizard people"?
>
> I have seen others say he believes in Underground Lizard People, but
> the closest I could find to back that was this:
> <http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>
>
> Mark Bilk, on the government:
> -----
> It's an organization of psychopaths. Not actually humans.
> -----
> The high rulers wouldn't kill them all if they all publicly stated
> who the rulers were.
> -----
> Some people think the ones in ultimate control are aliens.
> -----
> Some people have seen aliens. Lizard-like and others.
> -----
>
> In that same discussion he admits:
>
> Mark Bilk:
> -----

> Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
> ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.

> -----
>
> He has since said that these "monsters" were his parents who he
> believes hated him... along with his teachers and the principal at
> his school... and the people who worked at the summer camp he went to
> as a kid. He believes the world is filled with "psychopaths" and that
> he is very heavily hated.
>
> Here is my response to his admission of these things:
> <http://bit.ly/YMFlQg>
>
> He is very open with how hated he feels and how his own religious-like
> devotion to his irrational ideas developed.
>
> As for the Underground Marshmallow people - no, Bilk has never shown
> any direct belief in them. It is my response to his mockery of the
> 9-11 attack and his lies about people being paid by MS to post to
> COLA. The idea that the Twin Towers were brought down by Underground
> Marshmallow People and that these UMP pay Mark to post to COLA makes
> as much sense as his claims (though there are fewer holes in the idea
> of the UMP than in his BS). But, no, Mark has never directly claimed
> to believe in the UMP.
>
>> He's a bigger loon than I could have guessed.
>> And I read some lunatic stuff in COLA that there are Neanderthalers
>> living under the surface of this planet.
>
> I would love to see the link!
>
Well, it was one of Goblin's heroes "Brandon (Rear Ender) Lozza" who
mentioned Neanderthalers.
"_Goblin Brandon Lozza actually believes in Neanderthals and a Hive Mind
Computer."
"_ Goblin I should really ask.where these neanderthals are living?"
http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/irc-log-techrights-29102011.html

> with Brandon Lozza and his theory about neanderthals living under the
> ground controlling the human race....
http://www.artikcommunity.biz/showthread.php?t=21067579&page=7

I guess I was right then "Linux advocacy attract so many queers and
oddballs, Quite entertaining stuff though."

[Goblin]

On 17/05/13 18:55, Clogwog wrote:
> Well, it was one of Goblin's heroes "Brandon (Rear Ender) Lozza"

Really? A hero? Why this rubbish? I was the one making fun of his hairy
people under the stairs..... even set up a fictious fantasy battle
between Lozza's Hairy Underground People and the Lizard People.

But then you knew that didn't you?

> I guess I was right then "Linux advocacy attract so many queers and oddballs, Quite entertaining stuff though."

Yes the type of oddball who would spend 15+ years attacking Linux and
Foss users in a Usenet newsgroup....the Microsoft advocates must be
really scared of Linux, that or as you suggest, oddball.

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[Snit]

On 5/17/13 10:55 AM, in article kn5ql9$ndm$1...@dont-email.me, "Clogwog"

I just posted about why Bilk is so clearly in need of help. I sincerely hope
he reads it and gets the help he needs.

But he is not the only one of the "advocates" who needs such help... though
he is one of the most extreme. Heck, even the herd often notes how insane he
is.


--
"When making pornography involves real abuse of real children ... that does
not excuse censorship. No matter how disgusting published works might be,
censorship is more disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

[Snit]

On 5/17/13 11:02 AM, in article Mgult.64579$jP.3...@fx12.fr7, "Goblin"

<bytes...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 17/05/13 18:55, Clogwog wrote:
>> Well, it was one of Goblin's heroes "Brandon (Rear Ender) Lozza"
>
> Really? A hero? Why this rubbish? I was the one making fun of his hairy
> people under the stairs..... even set up a fictious fantasy battle
> between Lozza's Hairy Underground People and the Lizard People.
>
> But then you knew that didn't you?

I have looked for info on Bilk and the "Lizard People" but the closest I
could find was him speaking of Lizard-like aliens he thinks are controlling
the world... or the government. Or something. His stories change a lot.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

Mark Bilk, on the government:
-----
It's an organization of psychopaths. Not actually humans.
-----
The high rulers wouldn't kill them all if they all publicly stated
who the rulers were.
-----
Some people think the ones in ultimate control are aliens.
-----
Some people have seen aliens. Lizard-like and others.
-----

In that same discussion he admits:

Mark Bilk:
-----
Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally
ill. But I never was. I just saw monsters. Them.
-----

He has since said that these "monsters" were his parents who he believes

hated him... along with many of his teachers and the principal at his

school... and the people who worked at the summer camp he went to as a kid

and others... all who hated him. He believes the world is filled with

"psychopaths" and that he is very heavily hated.

>> I guess I was right then "Linux advocacy attract so many queers and oddballs,
>> Quite entertaining stuff though."
>
> Yes the type of oddball who would spend 15+ years attacking Linux and
> Foss users in a Usenet newsgroup....the Microsoft advocates must be
> really scared of Linux, that or as you suggest, oddball.



--

Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

"Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally ill. But

I never was. I just saw monsters. Them." - Mark S. Bilk

[flatfish+++]

There are so many freaks and oddballs in the FOSSie movement that
sometimes it's hard to keep track of who's wearing which straight
jacket.

The real question is why the Linux / FOSS movement attracts so many
very strange people?
And Linux advocacy in general really does seem to be loaded to the
gunwales with life's rejects, losers and misfits.

[Snit]

On 5/17/13 11:14 AM, in article 11wj9e8qaovhd$.1wltfxbh...@40tude.net,

"flatfish+++" <phlat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Well, it was one of Goblin's heroes "Brandon (Rear Ender) Lozza" who
>> mentioned Neanderthalers.
>> "_Goblin Brandon Lozza actually believes in Neanderthals and a Hive Mind
>> Computer."
>> "_ Goblin I should really ask.where these neanderthals are living?"
>> http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/irc-log-techrights-29102011.
>> html
>>
>>> with Brandon Lozza and his theory about neanderthals living under the
>>> ground controlling the human race....
>> http://www.artikcommunity.biz/showthread.php?t=21067579&page=7
>>
>> I guess I was right then "Linux advocacy attract so many queers and
>> oddballs, Quite entertaining stuff though."
>
> There are so many freaks and oddballs in the FOSSie movement that
> sometimes it's hard to keep track of who's wearing which straight
> jacket.
>
> The real question is why the Linux / FOSS movement attracts so many
> very strange people?

A couple of thoughts:

1) People who use Linux on the desktop are people who are doing something
different from the norm. As such, they are likely to be different from the
norm in other ways, too.

2) Looking at any group you will find "strange" people. Heck, some of this
strangeness is good. Some is not. I think you are in reference to the
irrational, heavily emotional people who seem so common in the COLA
"advocates" group. This is not a good type of "strange" in my book.

3) A lot of the Linux "advocates" are followers of Stallman's cult-like
group, though it is "only" cult-like this allows for more variation than in
a traditional, face-to-face cult where members are isolated from society to
a far greater extent. These people, by the very nature of following
Stallman, show they have poor reasoning capabilities - they accept his
doublespeak nonsense about what it means to be "free" (Stallman has said
ideally he would like to *limit* freedom and take away choice in the name of
making things more "free"), and, of course, you have to be willing to
overlook Stallman's hygiene problems and, far worse, his view on how
censoring porn - even child porn - from public schools would be *harmful* to
students, as if there is benefit to watching such material in a public
school! This takes a severe level of not just "strangeness" but a lack of
morality. It is this lack of morality that I find to be a problem in the
Linux "advocates" in COLA.

> And Linux advocacy in general really does seem to be loaded to the
> gunwales with life's rejects, losers and misfits.



--

"It is often hard to persuade the developers of one component to do what
improves the system as a whole rather than what will make their own
component more useful and successful." -- Richard Stallman

[flatfish+++]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:34:09 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 5/17/13 11:14 AM, in article 11wj9e8qaovhd$.1wltfxbh...@40tude.net,
> "flatfish+++" <phlat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Well, it was one of Goblin's heroes "Brandon (Rear Ender) Lozza" who
>>> mentioned Neanderthalers.
>>> "_Goblin Brandon Lozza actually believes in Neanderthals and a Hive Mind
>>> Computer."
>>> "_ Goblin I should really ask.where these neanderthals are living?"
>>> http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/irc-log-techrights-29102011.
>>> html
>>>
>>>> with Brandon Lozza and his theory about neanderthals living under the
>>>> ground controlling the human race....
>>> http://www.artikcommunity.biz/showthread.php?t=21067579&page=7
>>>
>>> I guess I was right then "Linux advocacy attract so many queers and
>>> oddballs, Quite entertaining stuff though."
>>
>> There are so many freaks and oddballs in the FOSSie movement that
>> sometimes it's hard to keep track of who's wearing which straight
>> jacket.
>>
>> The real question is why the Linux / FOSS movement attracts so many
>> very strange people?
>
> A couple of thoughts:
>
> 1) People who use Linux on the desktop are people who are doing something
> different from the norm. As such, they are likely to be different from the
> norm in other ways, too.

But this is not a little bit different, this is a *lot* different and
in very strange ways.

> 2) Looking at any group you will find "strange" people. Heck, some of this
> strangeness is good. Some is not. I think you are in reference to the
> irrational, heavily emotional people who seem so common in the COLA
> "advocates" group. This is not a good type of "strange" in my book.

Emotion is going to be a big part of any advocacy type group and
people tend to over react and become defensive as they defend their
choice.
The difference is though the Linux FOSSies in COLA are way over the
line of normalcy.
Way over.

People like Bilk, [Homer], Ahlstrom, Kohlmann, chrisv, 7, and the
list goes on and on, push the envelope out of the park.
Even a harmless kook like Goblin is an oddball in his own right.
And let's not even get started talkking about Goblin's boss, Roy
Schestowitz. Can anyone actually consider that loon "normal" by
current standards of normalcy.

> 3) A lot of the Linux "advocates" are followers of Stallman's cult-like
> group, though it is "only" cult-like this allows for more variation than in
> a traditional, face-to-face cult where members are isolated from society to
> a far greater extent. These people, by the very nature of following
> Stallman, show they have poor reasoning capabilities - they accept his
> doublespeak nonsense about what it means to be "free" (Stallman has said
> ideally he would like to *limit* freedom and take away choice in the name of
> making things more "free"), and, of course, you have to be willing to
> overlook Stallman's hygiene problems and, far worse, his view on how
> censoring porn - even child porn - from public schools would be *harmful* to
> students, as if there is benefit to watching such material in a public
> school! This takes a severe level of not just "strangeness" but a lack of
> morality. It is this lack of morality that I find to be a problem in the
> Linux "advocates" in COLA.

Geeks and tech types have forever been ridiculed for personal
hygiene, lack of social skills and so forth. Read the book "Hackers"
and pay attention to a person called "Greenblatt" for a perfect
example.

Linux / FOSS and in particular COLA goes way beyond people being a
little different.
Some of these people are truly life's misfits, at least if their
posting is in line with their everyday behavior.
In some cases I do believe it is.

[Cola Zealot]

Coward Peter K�hlmann wrote:
> Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> Snit has now posted 10 times to this thread, always lying and
>> intentionally "misunderstanding". Flatfish Gary Stewart has
>> implied that all those researchers that I cite are "cuckoo"
>> and "paranoid".
>
> They are. To call them (and you) "imbeciles" would be way too kind.

A *real* imbecile such as yourself might be offended, eh!
>
>>
>> Snit Michael Glasser - http://prescottcomputerguy.com/ - is
>> a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
>> remorse, and no empathy.
>
> That is right.
> It is still no excuse for your nonsense.

>
> Do the world a favour: Go to the next shop, buy a decent rope and just
> simply hang yourself.

And you would *never* have the nerve to tell him that face to face in the
real world, little man.
Cowardice noted!

[Snit]

On 5/17/13 11:48 AM, in article 1ub8hfylorika$.1h2o37ik...@40tude.net,
"flatfish+++" <phlat...@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

>>> There are so many freaks and oddballs in the FOSSie movement that
>>> sometimes it's hard to keep track of who's wearing which straight
>>> jacket.
>>>
>>> The real question is why the Linux / FOSS movement attracts so many
>>> very strange people?
>>
>> A couple of thoughts:
>>
>> 1) People who use Linux on the desktop are people who are doing something
>> different from the norm. As such, they are likely to be different from the
>> norm in other ways, too.
>
> But this is not a little bit different, this is a *lot* different and
> in very strange ways.

Right... they are unhealthy, not just believing things which are clearly not
true but doing so in a coordinated way. I am sure you have seen the list
before, but the COLA "advocates" almost universally accept the following
fictions:

* MS has secret deals to stop OEMs from selling Linux pre-installed.
* Apple claims to have invented the "rounded rectangle".
* Desktop Linux serves people as well as the competition.
* Apple never innovated anything.
* Samsung has not been copying Apple's products.
* Apple and MS are struggling / dying companies.
* MS has a monopoly on the desktop.
* Snit is anti-choice (as are others they accuse).
* Snit is anti-Linux (as are others they accuse).
* Snit uses sock puppets (as do others they accuse).
* Stallman's views on kids and sexuality are fine.
* Stallman's doubletalk about "Freedom" is coherent and makes sense.
* MS is evil to have blocked Linux years ago, but Google is fine to
block Aliyun OS *now*.
* When an organization moves to a Linux based product it is always a
good move. When they move away from one it is always a bad move.
* Even though some herd members post membership lists of who is in
the herd, all herd members deny the herd even exists.

These things are not rational... and the fact they are so strongly accepted
by the group is just... weird. Unhealthy. Cult-like.

>> 2) Looking at any group you will find "strange" people. Heck, some of this
>> strangeness is good. Some is not. I think you are in reference to the
>> irrational, heavily emotional people who seem so common in the COLA
>> "advocates" group. This is not a good type of "strange" in my book.
>
> Emotion is going to be a big part of any advocacy type group and
> people tend to over react and become defensive as they defend their
> choice.

When you look at a group I think you are right - and the COLA "advocates"
tend to be ruled much more by emotion than logic. I tend to be more of a
logic-based person (which is not to suggest I do not have emotions, of
course). But they, as a group, are very much against the use of reason and
data and logic. They base their views on what they *feel*. Desktop Linux is
better, in their view, because it feels that way... they do not understand
the pros and cons.

> The difference is though the Linux FOSSies in COLA are way over the
> line of normalcy.
> Way over.
>
> People like Bilk, [Homer], Ahlstrom, Kohlmann, chrisv, 7, and the
> list goes on and on, push the envelope out of the park.

That group is basically incapable of using logic. They make accusations and
insults and push attacks with amazing frequency and run when asked to back
their comments. And they are not able to back their claims... and become
very offended when their views are questioned.

> Even a harmless kook like Goblin is an oddball in his own right.
> And let's not even get started talkking about Goblin's boss, Roy
> Schestowitz. Can anyone actually consider that loon "normal" by
> current standards of normalcy.

Roy is way off the scale on being irrational, *but* I do give him credit for
not being as off the rails as Dietrich... Roy, for example, does not delete
comments from his site that he disagrees with. Dietrich does. But neither
*ever* defends their views with anything approaching a reasoned arguement.
They fear disagreement.

>> 3) A lot of the Linux "advocates" are followers of Stallman's cult-like
>> group, though it is "only" cult-like this allows for more variation than in
>> a traditional, face-to-face cult where members are isolated from society to
>> a far greater extent. These people, by the very nature of following
>> Stallman, show they have poor reasoning capabilities - they accept his
>> doublespeak nonsense about what it means to be "free" (Stallman has said
>> ideally he would like to *limit* freedom and take away choice in the name of
>> making things more "free"), and, of course, you have to be willing to
>> overlook Stallman's hygiene problems and, far worse, his view on how
>> censoring porn - even child porn - from public schools would be *harmful* to
>> students, as if there is benefit to watching such material in a public
>> school! This takes a severe level of not just "strangeness" but a lack of
>> morality. It is this lack of morality that I find to be a problem in the
>> Linux "advocates" in COLA.
>
> Geeks and tech types have forever been ridiculed for personal
> hygiene, lack of social skills and so forth. Read the book "Hackers"
> and pay attention to a person called "Greenblatt" for a perfect
> example.

I have not read that book but I know the stereotype.

> Linux / FOSS and in particular COLA goes way beyond people being a
> little different.

There is a sub-group in the community where this is very true. Still, I have
a lot of respect for Torvalds and Shuttleworth and Zemlin and the like. Many
other big players and "regular" users who are good people.

> Some of these people are truly life's misfits, at least if their
> posting is in line with their everyday behavior.
> In some cases I do believe it is.

I truly believe Bilk, for example, believes the nonsense he spews... and
fails to see how he demonstrates all of the behaviors he claims show someone
is a "psychopath". He even goes so far as to claim those who point out his
flaws and irrational claims are not human.

[Snit]

On 5/17/13 12:02 PM, in article kn5uqc$qhe$1...@news.albasani.net, "Cola

Zealot" <Cola_...@fuckoff.com> wrote:

> Coward Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>> Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>
>>> Snit has now posted 10 times to this thread, always lying and
>>> intentionally "misunderstanding". Flatfish Gary Stewart has
>>> implied that all those researchers that I cite are "cuckoo"
>>> and "paranoid".
>>
>> They are. To call them (and you) "imbeciles" would be way too kind.
>
> A *real* imbecile such as yourself might be offended, eh!
>>
>>>

>>> Snit Michael Glasser - http://prxscxttcomputxrgxy.com/ - is

>>> a psychopath -- he lies constantly, has no conscience, no
>>> remorse, and no empathy.
>>
>> That is right.
>> It is still no excuse for your nonsense.
>>
>> Do the world a favour: Go to the next shop, buy a decent rope and just
>> simply hang yourself.
>
> And you would *never* have the nerve to tell him that face to face in the
> real world, little man.
> Cowardice noted!

The fact Peter would encourage someone who is so clearly mentally ill to
hurt himself is inexcusable. Completely. Peter's actions are as bad as
Bilk's - maybe worse. I have never seen Bilk suggest someone hurt
themselves.


--
"It is absurd to punish anyone for having sex with someone of age 15 � it is
normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex." -- Richard Stallman

[Snit]

On 5/16/13 11:10 AM, in article
90e5141e-e4aa-4e8b...@mq5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, "Mark S
Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:

> Snit has now posted 9 times to this thread, always lying and
> intentionally "misunderstanding".

What lie? By all means do quote the lie and defend your view.

But you will not. This is part of what I am getting at with you - you make
claims you cannot back. You attack people with accusations you cannot back.

You act in the ways you describe the "psychopaths" you claim to not like...
you act like how you describe your parents and teachers and your principal
and the people who worked at the summer camp you went to... all these people
who "hate" you, in your mind at least.

You claim I am the most hated person on Usenet, but you are the one who
claims to be hated by so many. It is sad. You truly seem to believe you were
hated by your parents, teachers, principal, and the people who worked with
you at a summer camp.

That is sad.

And it is a sign you need help.

> Flatfish Gary Stewart has implied that all those researchers that I cite are
> "cuckoo" and "paranoid".

I will not comment on them, but it is clear *you* are unable to answer even
the most basic of questions about your claims... nor explain things in any
way that makes sense. Again, just about your claims of *one* video:

* No known copies exist in any library.
* No known copies exist in any PBS station.
* No known VCR copies exist.
* No listing of it can be found in any 1990 TV guide.
* No reason why it would be shown on a government network
* No known welder comments in 1969 as the towers were made.
* No known welder comments when the show was broadcast in 1990.
* No known welder comments after 9-11.
* No people related to these welders can be found speaking up.
* No explanation for why you changed your story about it's "series"
* No comment in the video about explosives you say it proves.
* No agency has been named which authorized special clearances.
* No name of any producer has been given.
* No name of anyone working on this video has been given.
* No reason given why explosives were not added after the welding
* Bilk has admitted not even he saw the video yet insists it is real.

Other than a rather paranoid claim that secret government agents "explain"
the first point, you have run most if not all of the other points. And that
is just one point in your string of fictions... for more info about your
fictions, see here: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>. Your claims are irrational - but
you hold on to them with a religious fervor and show hatred toward those who
question you. You act as you describe your parents acting toward you.

> They've changed the Subject line to hide the thread, so I'll
> have to repost.

Here you are blaming others for your own actions. You "have to repost"
because of others. No, Bilk. You have control over your own actions.

As far as my changing the name, I cannot stop you from seeding Google with
my business name associated with your attacks but I have no obligation to
*assist* you with that. I have control of my own actions.

> I've added new material, and at the end of the article, links to lots of
> informative websites. I'll repost it and add more every time they hide the
> thread.

We cannot hide the thread... it is on Google Groups for all to see.

A response to your vicious attacks and your admission of why you are as you
are is posted here: <http://bit.ly/YMFlQg>

I have snipped your copy-and-paste info that is fully responded to in the
link, above.

--
Proof Mark Bilk's http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ is nothing but silly
fiction: <http://bit.ly/Y741mf>.
Using Bilk's own "logic" he posts his lies because the Underground
Marshmallow People pay him to.

<http://bit.ly/19aDAxL>

"Maybe I am that way because people kept telling me I was mentally ill. But

I never was. I just saw monsters. Them." - Mark S. Bilk

[Mark S Bilk]

Snit Michael Glasser posts another attack article full of
lies by omission, distortions, intentional misunderstandings,
misquotes, etc. In other words, Snit Michael Glasser's standard
operating procedures, as described by 160+ people here:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e8248efe9040b38

Those witnesses say that:

"Snit Michael Glasser is the biggest liar in Usenet history."

and that he is:

"the most universally hated person on Usenet".

Glasser has targeted me, as psychopaths do. He is always the one
initiating the attacks. He's done it thousands of times over the
last several months. Before that he attacked Richard Stallman,
the GNU/Linux pioneer, thousands of times.

[Jeff-Relf.Me]

 
Mr. "Snit" has a god complex.

Deep down, he knows he's wrong,
but he can't bring himself to admit it.

I read ALL of his direct/indirect replies to me;
otherwise, his posts are automatically marked "Was Read".

[Snit]

On 5/19/13 2:04 PM, in article Jeff-R...@May.19{14.04.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> �
> Mr. "Snit" has a god complex <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex> .

>
> Deep down, he knows he's wrong,

What do you think I am wrong about?

> but he can't bring himself to admit it.

Actually, when I am shown I am wrong about something I am quite open to
admitting to it. You, on the other hand, make clearly incorrect claims you
refuse to acknowledge are wrong. Some recent examples:

Jeff-Relf:
-----
Usenet is a form of email.
-----
Most anything that can handle emails, also handles Usenet; including
HTML emails/posts.
-----

Both of these comments of yours are clearly and unambiguously incorrect. In
addition, you make claims about my knowledge without any basis, and you make
claims about Entourage without showing any understanding of the program. For
example, even though I have shown you how I *manually* deal with your poorly
formatted posts with this video:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/RespondingToBrokenPosts.mp4>

You continue to insist it is an automatic process and even a problem with
Entourage. Do not get me wrong: Entourage is a poor Usenet client with many
significant weaknesses, but you do not show any understanding of what they
are.

> I read ALL of his direct/indirect replies to me;
> otherwise, his posts are automatically marked "Was Read".

See how you think so highly of yourself that you believe others would care
which Usenet posts you read or do not. You speak of a "God Complex", but
here (and with your above incorrect claims) you are showing a "consistently
inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility".

Instead of making accusations and insulting each other, I would prefer to
speak about the topic: Usenet formatting, Usenet clients, and other
technology related topics. Sad that you feel the need to make personal
insults and attacks to dodge these topics.