Ubuntu is great, even for professional photographers
Tony Manco
,----[ Quote ]
| I hope this is the right place to comment on my experience so far. I hope
| someone who is contemplating a switch from windows has an opportunity to
| read this.
|
| I completely switched from Windows to Ubuntu Linux a couple of weeks ago.
| I went cold turkey and forced myself to learn, and to be quite honest, the
| transaction was pretty seamless. All of the same programs/actions, and
| more, are there. Multiple desktops and rotating cubes are awsome! If you
| know how to operate a computer, even a little bit, then the switch to
| Ubuntu will be very painless and a lot of fun.
|
| I am/was a part time professional photographer and I could't afford the
| new software that was coming out since I switched to Vista. My old version
| of photoshop didn't work anymore, and I would have had to buy a new
| version, along with lightroom, to the tune of about $1,000. Long story
| short, I decided to go a different direction: Linux
|
| I just wish I had done this YEARS ago! I am extremely pleased with Ubuntu,
| and I don't ever plan on looking back. I tried other distros, and they
| were good, but I prefer Ubuntu.
|
| One of the greatest things about Linux I have found is that it uses less
| rescources than the other systems. I have a Dell Pentium 4 with 1gig of
| ram and a 3ghz processor. I was concerned that 1gig of ram was not enough
| for the amount and size of photographs I work on, so I did a little test:
|
|
| *I opened Gimp and 4 photographs, 56mb each.
| *Went to another desktop and started firefox.
| *Went to another desktop and opened Open Office Writer.
| *Went to another desktop and opened Rawtherapee and had it start
| processing 6 raw canon files to png files and saving them.
|
| I then started watching the system monitor, and the RAM never got past
| 80-82%!! I was amazed. The 3 ghz processor was running 100% most of the
| time during the raw image processing.
|
| I also have all the goodies turned on (rotating cube desktops, wobbly
| windows, etc....)
|
| For photographers, Raw therapee and Gimp is the perfect combination, at
| least for me. I convert images to PNG 8 bit before they go to Gimp, and
| still have plenty of latitude for adjustments later. And the speed at
| which the system runs is a great plus when you need to process 500
| photographs!
|
| And another bonus: No more virus/malware software to maintain!! Each day I
| use Linux it just gets better.
|
| Another bonus: I don't have to pull out my debit card every time I need
| software.
|
| I am now a convert to the dark side (according to Windows and Best Buy!!!)
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http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264801
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KDE 4.3.1 user
Hadron
All also running on Windows of course.
> |
> | I then started watching the system monitor, and the RAM never got past
> | 80-82%!! I was amazed. The 3 ghz processor was running 100% most of the
> | time during the raw image processing.
There is little of any difference between memory usage of apps like gimp
on Windows v Linux.
> |
> | I also have all the goodies turned on (rotating cube desktops, wobbly
> | windows, etc....)
> |
> | For photographers, Raw therapee and Gimp is the perfect combination, at
> | least for me. I convert images to PNG 8 bit before they go to Gimp,
> | and
This post was a made up fanboi plant. No two ways about it.
> | still have plenty of latitude for adjustments later. And the speed at
> | which the system runs is a great plus when you need to process 500
> | photographs!
Would you care to tell us how much faster? is it 50% faster like that
liar Rexx Ballard claims?
> |
> | And another bonus: No more virus/malware software to maintain!! Each day I
> | use Linux it just gets better.
You maintained virus/malware SW? Are you stupid? Set it up to auto
update. RonG claimed he spent all his working day "maintaining" anti
virus SW : but then he's another liar and idiot.
> |
> | Another bonus: I don't have to pull out my debit card every time I need
> | software.
Are you really this dense? Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you
listed runs for free on Windows too. Terry still doesnt seem to
understand that!
TomB
> You maintained virus/malware SW? Are you stupid? Set it up to auto
> update. RonG claimed he spent all his working day "maintaining" anti
> virus SW : but then he's another liar and idiot.
Until eg. AVG pulls off another one of their stunts like they did some
time ago, rendering millions of Windows machines unusable.
--
... A solemn, unsmiling, sanctimonious old iceberg who looked like he
was waiting for a vacancy in the Trinity.
-- Mark Twain
Rick
Yes? So?... were they running on different desktops on Windows?
Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
>
>> |
>> | I then started watching the system monitor, and the RAM never got
>> past | 80-82%!! I was amazed. The 3 ghz processor was running 100% most
>> of the | time during the raw image processing.
>
> There is little of any difference between memory usage of apps like gimp
> on Windows v Linux.
Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
>
>> |
>> | I also have all the goodies turned on (rotating cube desktops, wobbly
>> | windows, etc....)
>> |
>> | For photographers, Raw therapee and Gimp is the perfect combination,
>> at | least for me. I convert images to PNG 8 bit before they go to
>> Gimp, | and
>
> This post was a made up fanboi plant. No two ways about it.
Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
>
>
>> | still have plenty of latitude for adjustments later. And the speed at
>> | which the system runs is a great plus when you need to process 500 |
>> photographs!
>
> Would you care to tell us how much faster? is it 50% faster like that
> liar Rexx Ballard claims?
>
>> |
>> | And another bonus: No more virus/malware software to maintain!! Each
>> day I | use Linux it just gets better.
>
> You maintained virus/malware SW? Are you stupid? Set it up to auto
> update. RonG claimed he spent all his working day "maintaining" anti
> virus SW : but then he's another liar and idiot.
Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
>
>> |
>> | Another bonus: I don't have to pull out my debit card every time I
>> need | software.
>
> Are you really this dense? Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you
> listed runs for free on Windows too. Terry still doesnt seem to
> understand that!
>
>> |
>> | I am now a convert to the dark side (according to Windows and Best
>> Buy!!!) `----
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264801
Another fine piece of ...
... yada yada yada.
--
Rick
Peter Köhlmann
What part of "went to another desktop" was too difficult for you?
>> |
>> | I then started watching the system monitor, and the RAM never got
>> | past 80-82%!! I was amazed. The 3 ghz processor was running 100% most
>> | of the time during the raw image processing.
>
> There is little of any difference between memory usage of apps like gimp
> on Windows v Linux.
Good
>> |
>> | I also have all the goodies turned on (rotating cube desktops, wobbly
>> | windows, etc....)
>> |
>> | For photographers, Raw therapee and Gimp is the perfect combination,
>> | at least for me. I convert images to PNG 8 bit before they go to
>> | Gimp, and
>
> This post was a made up fanboi plant. No two ways about it.
Naturally. Because it praises linux. In a linux advocacy group
>
>> | still have plenty of latitude for adjustments later. And the speed at
>> | which the system runs is a great plus when you need to process 500
>> | photographs!
>
> Would you care to tell us how much faster? is it 50% faster like that
> liar Rexx Ballard claims?
Irrelevant. He claims high speed. Not a hint about "faster" or a
percentage of faster
You in your frothing wintroll mode simply have to imply something else
>> |
>> | And another bonus: No more virus/malware software to maintain!! Each
>> | day I use Linux it just gets better.
>
> You maintained virus/malware SW? Are you stupid? Set it up to auto
> update.
Naturally. That way you will not even notice when the latest malware has
changed network settings to make it impossible for any AV update to take
place
> RonG claimed he spent all his working day "maintaining" anti
> virus SW : but then he's another liar and idiot.
Apart from the fact that he did not claim any such thing, he was right
about having to spend way too much time to protect windows against viruses
>> |
>> | Another bonus: I don't have to pull out my debit card every time I
>> | need software.
>
> Are you really this dense?
Well, show us the sites where you have to pay for every little app for
linux, will you?
> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you
> listed runs for free on Windows too.
No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows too.
Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too.
Not even half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software
which runs on linux
> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
He understands quite well that you are lying
>> |
>> | I am now a convert to the dark side (according to Windows and Best
>> | Buy!!!)
>> `----
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264801
>
> --
--
Another name for a Windows tutorial is crash course
DFS
> Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
> Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
> Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
> Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark.
> Another fine piece of ...
> ... yada yada yada.
(p)Rick, do you realize what a repetitive dullard you are?
(p)Rick, do you realize what a repetitive dullard you are?
(p)Rick, do you realize what a repetitive dullard you are?
(p)Rick, do you realize what a repetitive dullard you are?
(p)Rick, do you realize what a ...
... yada yada yada.
DFS
>> Would you care to tell us how much faster? is it 50% faster like that
>> liar Rexx Ballard claims?
>
> Irrelevant. He claims high speed. Not a hint about "faster" or a
> percentage of faster
Rex Ballard re: XP as VMWare client on RedHat host: "When I'm not running
lots of Linux apps, Windows is faster, almost 50% faster, than Windows XP
running on the same machine."
> Naturally. That way you will not even notice when the latest malware
> has changed network settings to make it impossible for any AV update
> to take place
You've made a living with Windows for years. Tell us about all the viruses
and malware you've encountered. Or slink away as usual.
Terry Porter
> Hadron wrote:
<snip>
>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>> Windows too.
>
> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows too.
>
> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not even
> half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software which runs
> on linux
>
>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>
> He understands quite well that you are lying
Indeed I do. Hadron's a troll, and trolls lie. They cannot be reasoned
with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
<snip>
--
C.O.L.A Charter:-
"For discussion of the benefits of GNU/Linux compared to other
operating systems."
Hadron
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:57:56 +0200, Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>>> Windows too.
>>
>> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows too.
>>
>> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not even
>> half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software which runs
>> on linux
>>
>>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>>
>> He understands quite well that you are lying
>
> Indeed I do. Hadron's a troll, and trolls lie. They cannot be reasoned
> with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
>
> <snip>
Are you two mad?
Office write, gimp and the other one he mentioned all work on Windows
AND Linux.
Rick
you really should get you blankey and take your nap.
--
Rick
Attila
Think "pot" and "kettle", DFS. ;)
Attila, The Freetard from Hell
DFS
I understand that's what you've convinced yourself of old fella, but you'll
have a hard time... impossible actually... finding a post in which I repeat
the same dullard phrase 5 times consecutively. (p)Rick does it often (tho
2-3 repititions is his usual idiocy)... and he has for years.
"Köhlmann is 'The Joker\", a joke."
> Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>
>
>> Naturally. That way you will not even notice when the latest malware
>> has changed network settings to make it impossible for any AV update
>> to take place
>
> You've made a living with Windows for years. Tell us about all the viruses
> and malware you've encountered. Or slink away as usual.
>
The superman Linux 'the Joker' is at it again I see, what a joke he is
what a joke.
"Köhlmann is 'The Joker\", a joke."
The only lies I have seen are being done by a bunch of COLA nuts. They
'put the lies in the COLA nuts, they lie so much and drink it up', like
the Coconut lyrics.
Peter Köhlmann
> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:57:56 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>>>> Windows too.
>>>
>>> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not
>>> even half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software
>>> which runs on linux
>>>
>>>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>>>
>>> He understands quite well that you are lying
>>
>> Indeed I do. Hadron's a troll, and trolls lie. They cannot be reasoned
>> with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
>>
>> <snip>
>
>
> Are you two mad?
>
> Office write, gimp and the other one he mentioned all work on Windows
> AND Linux.
So what? They are only a very tiny subset of OSS
--
Microsoft: which revised Eula do you want to accept today?
Attila
Quite true, my friend, but your thinking is too literal. I was thinking more
abstractly I'm afraid. With just a wee bit of effort you'll see what I was
referring to. Just an observation. You're obviously free to post whatever
you like and I'm just as free, as I'm sure you'll agree, to make an
observation about such posts. ;)
Terry Porter
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:57:56 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>>>>> Windows too.
>>>>
>>>> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not
>>>> even half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software
>>>> which runs on linux
>>>>
>>>>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>>>>
>>>> He understands quite well that you are lying
>>>
>>> Indeed I do. Hadron's a troll, and trolls lie. They cannot be reasoned
>>> with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> Are you two mad?
>>
>> Office write, gimp and the other one he mentioned all work on Windows
>> AND Linux.
>
> So what? They are only a very tiny subset of OSS
Besides, a lot of Windows software works on Linux.
Four Windows Genealogy programs I tested ran perfectly under Linux using
Wine.
As Windows was not involved in any way, I guess those Genealogy programs,
are now Linux programs ?
My Windows Radio Propagation Prediction software "Radio Mobile" works
perfectly under Wine.
Another Linux Radio Propagation Prediction software package for Linux!
Not much point running Windows these days .....
People want Linux, people don't want Microsoft Windows.
Hadron
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:54:48 +0200, Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:57:56 +0200, Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>>>>>> Windows too.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not
>>>>> even half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software
>>>>> which runs on linux
>>>>>
>>>>>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>>>>>
>>>>> He understands quite well that you are lying
>>>>
>>>> Indeed I do. Hadron's a troll, and trolls lie. They cannot be reasoned
>>>> with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you two mad?
>>>
>>> Office write, gimp and the other one he mentioned all work on Windows
>>> AND Linux.
>>
>> So what? They are only a very tiny subset of OSS
Err, we were talking about the SW HE needs. And the SW *HE* listed IS
available for Windows too so he doesnt need to take out his cheque book.
>
> Besides, a lot of Windows software works on Linux.
"Windows SW". "A lot".
>
> Four Windows Genealogy programs I tested ran perfectly under Linux using
> Wine.
Err, so what? Oh Aussie. Tracing back your criminal genes no doubt ...
>
> As Windows was not involved in any way, I guess those Genealogy programs,
> are now Linux programs ?
You are joking?? They were compiled and built for Windows. They are
Windows programs which can run on Linux.
Tell me dorkus, if Windows runs VMWare and hosts Linux does this mean
Linux itself is a Windows program? Seriously, how dense are you?
>
> My Windows Radio Propagation Prediction software "Radio Mobile" works
> perfectly under Wine.
Perfectly I doubt. Well enough? Probably.
>
> Another Linux Radio Propagation Prediction software package for Linux!
Wow ....
>
> Not much point running Windows these days .....
Except Wine is a Windows emulator (yawn, dont lets even go down that
route ...). And most people need things like iPod sync that works,
Blackberry stuff that works, Garmin stuff that works and all need low
level HW access something frequently does not work when running under
VBox for example.
>
> People want Linux, people don't want Microsoft Windows.
Actually wrong. People want Windows. Its why, unfortunately, Linux
languishes at around 1% despite being Free. The fall from grace and the
high return rates of the Linux netbook proved that beyond all doubt!
Linux does NOT run the best Windows SW perfectly. Hopefully VirtualBox
and family can change that and can people will see Linux IS an
alternative.
Meanwhile all the crap you spout changes nothing. Funny how you appeared
on this thread. I had my suspicions you penned the original article too.
TomB
>> My Windows Radio Propagation Prediction software "Radio Mobile" works
>> perfectly under Wine.
>
> Perfectly I doubt. Well enough? Probably.
There are programs that *do* work perfectly under wine. I have used
GuitarPro4 extensively under wine, and I can say that it worked
perfectly. Even more, it worked *better* under wine than it did under
Windows. Under Windows (2000 that was) the timing tended to drift
slightly; under Linux/wine the timing was rock solid. Granted, this
was with a kernel optimized for low latency, but still. Oh yeah, the
GUI was much more responsive too. I don't know why that was, but on
Windows you could actually see the program redraw itselve at times. On
Linux/wine it never did that.
--
Let him choose out of my files, his projects to accomplish.
-- Shakespeare, "Coriolanus"
William Poaster
trolls, Attila was heard to say:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> Attila wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark. Another
>>>>> fine piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark. Another fine
>>>>> piece of advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark. Another fine piece of
>>>>> advocacy from "Linux advocate", Quark. Another fine piece of ...
>>>>> ... yada yada yada.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (p)Rick, do you realize what a repetitive dullard you are? (p)Rick, do
>>>> you realize what a repetitive dullard you are? (p)Rick, do you realize
>>>> what a repetitive dullard you are? (p)Rick, do you realize what a
>>>> repetitive dullard you are? (p)Rick, do you realize what a ...
>>>> ... yada yada yada.
>>> Think "pot" and "kettle", DFS. ;)
>>> Attila, The Freetard from Hell
>>
>> I understand that's what you've convinced yourself of old fella, but
>> you'll have a hard time... impossible actually... finding a post in
>> which I repeat the same dullard phrase 5 times consecutively. (p)Rick
>> does it often (tho 2-3 repititions is his usual idiocy)... and he has
>> for years.
> Quite true, my friend, but your thinking is too literal. I was thinking
> more abstractly I'm afraid. With just a wee bit of effort you'll see
> what I was referring to.
The same repetitive "Ubuntu freezing" posts from DFS.
> Just an observation. You're obviously free to post whatever you like and
> I'm just as free, as I'm sure you'll agree, to make an observation about
> such posts. ;)
As is everyone else.
William Poaster
trolls, Peter Kļæ½hlmann was heard to say:
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:57:56 +0200, Peter Kļæ½hlmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>>>>> Windows too.
>>>>
>>>> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not
>>>> even half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software
>>>> which runs on linux
>>>>
>>>>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>>>>
>>>> He understands quite well that you are lying
>>>
>>> Indeed I do. Hadron's a troll, and trolls lie. They cannot be reasoned
>>> with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> Are you two mad?
Ah, the usual response from the M$ fanboi luser.
Tony Manco
<snip>
Why do you reply to me like that as if I was the one who wrote it?
--
KDE 4.3.1 user
DFS
>> I understand that's what you've convinced yourself of old fella, but
>> you'll have a hard time... impossible actually... finding a post in
>> which I repeat
>> the same dullard phrase 5 times consecutively. (p)Rick does it
>> often (tho 2-3 repititions is his usual idiocy)... and he has for
>> years.
>
> Quite true, my friend, but your thinking is too literal. I was
> thinking more abstractly I'm afraid.
You seem to pride yourself on your so-called "abstract thinking". Can't say
as I've seen evidence of it...ever.
> With just a wee bit of effort
> you'll see what I was referring to.
"Linux crapware" isn't repitition: it's the truth.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> This post was a made up fanboi plant. No two ways about it.
>
> Naturally. Because it praises linux. In a linux advocacy group
But don't come to COLA! They will tell you to fuck off back to Windows
and that it "works for them".
Hadron <gi6lg6$n20$4...@edwardhall.motzarella.org>
>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you
>> listed runs for free on Windows too.
>
> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows too.
>
> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too.
> Not even half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software
> which runs on linux
>
>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>
> He understands quite well that you are lying
"Hadron" has an amazing record of insults and lies. Works very hard at it.
--
You're a sad, nasty little man. My method is way better than Gidgets and
if you read my way you would know it. As usual, you little suck up, you
are willing to make a tit of yourself defending the indefensible in an
effort to get a doggy drop from your COLA Masters. I actually feel sorry
for you now.
Hadron <h81n10$hab$4...@news.eternal-september.org>
Andrzej Libiszewski
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264801
Raw Therapee... I've tried it, good software, except it is so extremely
slow that it is almost unusable compared to Lightroom x64 or Capture One
Pro.
Tried also GIMP - well, then I've turned to Photoshop Elements.
BTDTGTTS
--
Andrzej Libiszewski; JID: andrea/at/jabster.pl, GG: 5289118
"It is a proud and lonely thing to be a prince of Amber, incapable of
trust. I wasn't real fond of it just then, but there I was".
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On 2009-09-13, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>>> My Windows Radio Propagation Prediction software "Radio Mobile" works
>>> perfectly under Wine.
>>
>> Perfectly I doubt. Well enough? Probably.
>
> There are programs that *do* work perfectly under wine. I have used
> GuitarPro4 extensively under wine, and I can say that it worked
> perfectly. Even more, it worked *better* under wine than it did under
> Windows. Under Windows (2000 that was) the timing tended to drift
> slightly; under Linux/wine the timing was rock solid. Granted, this
> was with a kernel optimized for low latency, but still. Oh yeah, the
> GUI was much more responsive too. I don't know why that was, but on
> Windows you could actually see the program redraw itselve at times. On
> Linux/wine it never did that.
Heh. I had to use wine yesterday to unpack an EXE containing our corporate
PowerPoint template for use in OpenOffice. Pretty funny to find it in
~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Templates.
--
Yes, Linux networking is, and always was :-
1) Easy > 2) Reliable > 3) Bleeding edge
ANYONE that has used Linux on anything like modern HW 2 years ago knows
you to be a liar and talking garbage. Modern wireless networking was
hard, hard, hard for many, Even talking about "wpa_supplicant" (only
idiots use wpa anyway if its at all related) was enough to put
people off. Fortunately wiser heads got together and started on projects
like wicd - they got sick of the "works for me" crowd. Certainly with NW
manager I couldnt move from home to office to cafe and expect it to "just
work" on wireless properly. With wicd it does.
Hadron <h6gjo3$s7b$4...@news.eternal-september.org>
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Hadron wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Why do you reply to me like that as if I was the one who wrote it?
"Hadron" can't reach the original poster, since he's killfiled?
"Hadron" is a moron?
"Hadron" will do anything to disrupt a thread?
"Hadron" is an unrepentant, flaming asshole?
--
I don't hate him. I don't hate anyone. But you must remember he is simply a
dishonest show off. I think he's a suck up. And he compounds it by claiming
I am lying when he knows damn well I am not. I give him shit because he
gives others shit all the time and pretends to be some sort of guru when its
as plain as the trojans on Roy's website that he recently googled it and is
bluffing. See when he calls for "fair play" and "decent language" - he then
uses "cunt" himself. He's a moron.
-- Internet abuser Hadron. Copied from Google Groups.
Rick
It's a lie.
--
Rick
Attila
> Attila wrote:
>
>>> I understand that's what you've convinced yourself of old fella, but
>>> you'll have a hard time... impossible actually... finding a post in
>>> which I repeat
>>> the same dullard phrase 5 times consecutively. (p)Rick does it
>>> often (tho 2-3 repititions is his usual idiocy)... and he has for
>>> years.
>>
>> Quite true, my friend, but your thinking is too literal. I was
>> thinking more abstractly I'm afraid.
>
> You seem to pride yourself on your so-called "abstract thinking". Can't
> say as I've seen evidence of it...ever.
>
No, but that's the point isn't it. (You wouldn't) ;)
DFS
So "Pot. Kettle. Black." is the height of your abstract thinking.
Congrats!
Attila
Well, I admit I dumbed it down a bit for you. ;) But it still gives you
trouble. You can't blame a bloke for trying. :)
Tony Manco
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Tony Manco belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Why do you reply to me like that as if I was the one who wrote it?
>
> "Hadron" can't reach the original poster, since he's killfiled?
>
> "Hadron" is a moron?
>
> "Hadron" will do anything to disrupt a thread?
>
> "Hadron" is an unrepentant, flaming asshole?
>
I don't know... lets wait for him to answer these questions.
--
KDE 4.3.1 user
Moshe Goldfarb
> Besides, a lot of Windows software works on Linux.
Well at least you can run quality programs.
> Four Windows Genealogy programs I tested ran perfectly under Linux using
> Wine.
If I were you I wouldn't want to know where I came from.
It would be too painful.
> As Windows was not involved in any way, I guess those Genealogy programs,
> are now Linux programs ?
You're twisted, as usual.
I put my TomTom GPS in a Garmin case so now I guess it's a
Garmin GPS....
Idiotic.
> My Windows Radio Propagation Prediction software "Radio Mobile" works
> perfectly under Wine.
So where is all this great Linux software?
> Another Linux Radio Propagation Prediction software package for Linux!
Yea, but it's still a Windows program.
> Not much point running Windows these days .....
But yet you still have to run Windows software.
Why?
Linux software sucks.
> People want Linux, people don't want Microsoft Windows.
You sure seem to need Windows software.
Nobody cares about an OS.
It's all about applications and Windows has the good ones, as
you have discovered, Terry Porter.
Hadron
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Tony Manco belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Why do you reply to me like that as if I was the one who wrote it?
>
> "Hadron" can't reach the original poster, since he's killfiled?
>
> "Hadron" is a moron?
>
> "Hadron" will do anything to disrupt a thread?
>
> "Hadron" is an unrepentant, flaming asshole?
Poor Ahlstrom. Sucking up and not checking.
I didn't reply as if it was to Manco.
I left the double indenting in to make it clear to ANYONE who has half a
clue that I was referring to the text by the previous poster.
Yes, the article was "in reply" to Mancos but the content from me was
below double indent.
Are you really so dense as to not realise that? Its a VERY common way of
replying to multiple levels at once.
The "to" is to the group. NOT the individual.
William Poaster
trolls, Tony Manco was heard to say:
Don't hold your breath. The troll will make up something.
Tony Manco
He already did, see below...
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KDE 4.3.1 user
William Poaster
Unless someone replies to the trolling fool, I don't see him. :-)
Moshe Goldfarb
Gimp is a good program.
It's probably 95 percent of what Photoshop is and is gross
overkill for average Joe.
Where Gimp suffers, in the professional field, is in the UI.
Yes it can be learned.
However, like DAW applications, most of which do the same thing,
it's all about work flow, which is the UI.
If you watch a true professional using ProTools, you will notice
a fluidity in his work.
He knows the key combinations and knows how to quickly
accomplish tasks.
It's kind of like poetry in motion.
Take that same person and put him in front of a clunky UI and he
will grind to a halt even though the same functions can be
performed.
Tony Manco
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:43:40 +0100, above the shrieking & FUDding of the
> trolls, Tony Manco was heard to say:
>
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:39:45 +0100, above the shrieking & FUDding of the
>>> trolls, Tony Manco was heard to say:
>>>
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Tony Manco belched out
>>>>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you reply to me like that as if I was the one who wrote it?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hadron" can't reach the original poster, since he's killfiled?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hadron" is a moron?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hadron" will do anything to disrupt a thread?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hadron" is an unrepentant, flaming asshole?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I don't know... lets wait for him to answer these questions.
>>>
>>> Don't hold your breath. The troll will make up something.
>>
>> He already did, see below...
>
> Unless someone replies to the trolling fool, I don't see him. :-)
I'll give you a link:
http://is.gd/3eHp7 (GG)
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KDE 4.3.1 user
TomB
> Where Gimp suffers, in the professional field, is in the UI.
> Yes it can be learned.
> However, like DAW applications, most of which do the same thing,
> it's all about work flow, which is the UI.
>
> If you watch a true professional using ProTools, you will notice
> a fluidity in his work.
> He knows the key combinations and knows how to quickly
> accomplish tasks.
And that came to the guy naturally or what? No, it's all learned.
> It's kind of like poetry in motion.
>
> Take that same person and put him in front of a clunky UI and he
> will grind to a halt even though the same functions can be
> performed.
Give the guitar player a cello and he will grind to a halt, although
the 'interface' looks very familiar, and the same scales can be
played.
Something like that. (Did I already mention that I don't like
analogies?)
--
A kind of Batman of contemporary letters.
-- Philip Larkin on Anthony Burgess
Hadron
Willy still poasting about his killfiles? Wow and this after demanding
an answer. How sad.
chrisv
>> Hadron quacked:
>>>
>>> Are you two mad?
>
>Ah, the usual response from the M$ fanboi luser.
Quack's defense of his beloved Micro$oft Corp would be rather
touching, were he not so shitty...
--
'How is Ubuntu "better" than Debian when according to the sycophants
in Ubuntu group Debian is "rock solid".' - "True Linux advocate"
Hadron Quark
William Poaster
trolls, chrisv was heard to say:
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>>> Hadron quacked:
>>>>
>>>> Are you two mad?
>>
>>Ah, the usual response from the M$ fanboi luser.
>
> Quack's defense of his beloved Micro$oft Corp would be rather touching,
> were he not so shitty...
The only thing that's "touched" is the Hadron M$ fanboi troll.
JEDIDIAH
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>>> Hmm. Are you Terry Porter? ALL the SW you listed runs for free on
>>>> Windows too.
>>>
>>> No, it does not. In this particular case, only most runs on windows too.
>>>
>>> Generally a relativly small subset of OSS runs on windows too. Not even
>>> half of it. It is far less than a quarter of the OSS software which runs
>>> on linux
>>>
>>>> Terry still doesnt seem to understand that!
>>>
>>> He understands quite well that you are lying
>>
>> with, and they must lie to you until the day they die.
>>
>> <snip>
>
>
> Are you two mad?
>
> AND Linux.
...that is assuming they run as well as WOW does on Linux.
Do they? Have you verified this yourself.
Otherwise you are just having another True Lemming Troll moment.
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