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Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 1, 2002, 7:23:01 AM6/1/02
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It's stats time again and I see that the Linux advocates *vastly*
outnumber the anti-Linux posters (Wintrolls).

Legend:
WT = Wintroll
FMT = Foul Mouthed Troll
GE = Giant Ego


Turquoise SuperStat 2.2 * Message area statistics
=================================================

(c) Copyright 1998-2001 Peter Karlsson

This report covers 17550 messages that were received at this system between
2002-05-25 00:00:24 and 2002-06-26 07:00:37 (written between 2002-04-29
07:15:45 and 2002-06-01 22:50:01)

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Toplist of writers

Place Name Msgs Bytes Quoted
1. mjt <mtobler@removethis_sbcglobal.net> 1032 1055151 7.1%
2. GreyCloud <mi...@cumulus.com> 995 1268395 16.0%
3. rapskat <rap...@hotmail.com> 732 1003238 1.2%
4. Jim Richardson <war...@eskimo.com> 581 1097914 21.0%
5. Johan Lindquist <sp...@smilfinken.net> 487 589565 32.2%
WT Erik Funkenbusch <er...@visi.com> 474 826895 21.5%
WT wjbell <wj...@pacbell.net> 441 529938 2.4%
8. Matthew Gardiner <mat...@mysun.com> 438 563143 74.1%
9. Peter Köhlmann <Peter.K...@t-online.de> 428 562969 73.8%
10. Donn Miller <dmmi...@cvzoom.net> 384 344072 33.8%
11. Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net <tjpo...@gronk.port 351 496296 38.0%
12. Kenneth Downs <ex...@downsfam.net> 300 798115 46.8%
13. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 298 253794 56.0%
14. Florian S. <shadowst...@yahoo.de> 283 288842 64.2%
15. Roy Culley <r...@swissonline.ch> 281 365354 62.8%
16. paul cooke <paul....@you.must.be.joking.com> 261 262045 56.7%
17. Richard Revis <ne...@spamtrap.bottest.com> 255 181968 29.7%
GE . . <yt...@mutilation.net> 253 315958 69.3%
19. D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> 236 269949 64.2%
20. Paul Robson <auti...@aol.com.leechux> 230 228175 56.4%
21. kickaha <nomai...@devnull.net> 210 284791 58.1%
WT Pete Goodwin <pgoo...@REMOVE-TO-REPLY.sensaura.co 206 305591 68.5%
23. The Ghost In The Machine <ewi...@earthlink.net> 200 393115 37.0%
24. Charlie Ebert <kd...@mmcable.com> 183 304990 57.4%
25. Mike. <rapaci...@gingin.net> 183 196758 26.8%
26. Don't have a cow man... <Dar...@BartSimpsonNOT.com 179 238698 78.8%
27. Greg Cox <gr...@magivark.com> 164 302990 76.8%
28. Sinister Midget <kcs...@k.c-r.r.com> 162 298090 46.3%
29. mlw <ma...@mohawksoft.com> 145 131266 50.7%
30. Joe Potter <j...@home.org> 142 122257 62.5%
31. TuxTrax <ARC...@zerospamtuxtrax.com> 131 267380 41.0%
FMT Dr Square <drsq...@nowhere.org> 126 66747 63.7%
33. Tom Wilson <twi...@goliath.tomhome.net> 123 136316 67.5%
34. amonre <amo...@xpress93133.htc.net> 121 263818 21.5%
35. Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> 117 107180 31.6%
36. Dave Martel <nos...@nospam123.com> 116 189190 36.7%
37. Mart van de Wege <mvdwege.usenet@drebbelstraat20.d 116 149997 45.9%
38. Ian Pegel <IanP...@netscape.net> 112 61837 55.7%
39. Bob Hauck <b...@this-is.invalid> 111 110578 37.1%
40. Jim Lascola <jimla...@yahoo.com> 107 101478 67.4%
41. Craig Kelley <i...@inconnu.isu.edu> 100 117764 44.1%
42. Mark Kent <ma...@NOHAM.otford.kent.btinternet.co.uk 98 138644 45.9%
43. Paolo Ciambotti <pac...@fuckmicrosoft.com> 96 58438 44.5%
44. Peter Hayes <pe...@seahaze.demon.co.uk> 93 101835 58.8%
WT GeneralPF <y...@must.be.joking.mil> 91 90145 64.6%
46. Tom Gough <gou...@email.com> 90 108806 73.2%
47. Bo Grimes <vgr...@sc.rr.com> 86 88185 32.5%
48. Joel Mayes <j.m...@optushome.com.au> 85 110658 39.8%
49. SyntheToonz <Synth...@email.msn.com> 85 103169 52.5%
50. mjcr <mj...@mindspring.com> 84 635583 7.4%
51. Michael Vester <michaelvester@delthispartshaw..ca> 82 120312 69.3%
52. Lee Sau Dan <dan...@informatik.uni-freiburg.de> 82 96179 12.0%
53. Jesse F. Hughes <jes...@cs.kun.nl> 78 100833 32.3%
54. Jerry Nash <jry...@attglobal.net> 74 99200 68.4%
53. Jan <jan....@yucom.be> 74 82108 55.7%
56. chrisv <chr...@chrisv.com> 72 35777 62.9%
57. jackson <o51...@yahoo.com> 69 60715 44.4%
58. Rob S. Wolfram <aze...@hamal.xs4all.nl> 67 102164 46.4%
59. Rich Bell <rg_...@nvbell.net> 65 89084 45.3%
60. Colin Day <coli...@telocity.com> 64 52941 81.6%
61. Sam Richards <The 1st> 59 65602 66.4%
62. Thomas Phipps <whyt...@omega.lvcm.com> 57 93530 66.9%
63. Bigby <bml...@myglo.net> 57 55433 59.2%
64. Brad Sims <bs...@abnt.org> 57 32643 25.2%
65. Tsu Dho Nimh <aba...@hotmail.com> 53 60969 39.3%
66. alt <a...@microsoft.com> 53 58850 57.0%
67. Matt Greer <matthe...@uiowa.edu> 51 39748 34.6%
68. ECS Sales <rm...@fast.net> 50 63732 60.6%
69. Robt. Miller <robtmil....@ptd.net> 50 40651 48.6%
70. Jason Bowen <bow...@rintintin.colorado.edu> 49 48097 67.4%
71. Damon Brinkley <sigep44...@yahoo.com> 48 58959 78.6%
72. Xeniten <e...@joes.com> 47 69361 50.0%
73. Mike <mi...@nospam.com> 47 62520 49.6%
74. blah <bl...@blah-example.net> 47 36686 58.6%
75. gswork <gsw...@mailcity.com> 46 66798 32.8%
WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46 51670 63.5%
77. Kadaitcha Man <hahah...@fooq.com> 45 91490 57.6%
WT Mark Hall <mark...@linuxmail.org> 44 76122 62.6%
79. Bob Young <BYo...@2BRemoved.NuCoreTech.Com> 43 98397 32.1%
80. Rick <rha...@excite.com> 43 56144 81.1%
WT. Dr Square -> Terry Porter <TPo...@lycos.co.uk> 43 36031 84.8%
82. Chronos Tachyon <chr...@chronos.dyndns.org.no.spa 41 64270 35.4%
83. Tim Tyler <t...@tt1.org> 40 44947 17.5%
83. Rusty Shackelford <da...@gribble.com> 40 35900 43.8%
85. Jim Trice <nothappyj...@senet.com.au> 37 62531 52.4%
86. Ed Cogburn <ecog...@xtn.net> 37 50831 45.9%
87. Steve <interne...@rogers.com> 37 39037 58.8%
WT Simon Cooke <PLEASEsimonREMOVEcooke@THEearthlinkTE 37 39028 60.0%
89. Cat <MyRealEmailAddressIs@OnMyWebSite_ratrobot.com 36 52939 22.0%
90. Mike Marion <slac...@qualcomm.com> 36 27892 21.9%
WT Macman <no...@nowhere.net> 35 63953 76.6%
92. Mark Thornton <m.p.th...@ntlworld.com> 35 36534 42.7%
93. maddman <maddm...@yahoo.com> 33 63371 67.1%
94. Ilari Liusvaara <noad...@porn.org> 33 39704 32.1%
95. Ryan Walberg <gene...@yahoo.com> 33 37351 59.9%
96. Eric W. Sarjeant <er...@nospam.sarjeant.com> 33 35997 19.7%
WT Bob Zwarick <bravet...@remove.attbi.com> 33 15086 43.1%
98. Mark S Bilk <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> 32 74589 43.9%
99. Donovan Rebbechi <elf...@panix.com> 30 39657 51.4%
100.Edgar Allen <eal...@allenhome.kc.rr.com> 30 38864 32.3%

A total of 734 people were identified.

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Toplist of subjects

Place Subject Msgs Bytes
1. Another example of OSS in trouble.. 312 316599
2. OpenOffice under Windows vs Linux 251 338040
3. Linux comes of age... 250 380156
4. C: A Dead Language 235 294465
5. OS's that SUCK and the People that Love them... 222 299830
6. the many things Windows can do 199 289108
7. Lies about XP 192 209304
8. The state of Linux is a mess. 156 313190
9. LCD under linux? 152 214886
10. Microsoft's Dirty OEM-Secret 145 211964
11. Question for all (even trolls) 135 147672
12. $120.00 - Linux:0 Windows:1 133 210916
13. XP Service Pack Does the Impossible 133 190422
14. Does Windows Hold The Interest of College Programmers And 132 178728
15. installing new hardware - do you actually have to do anyt 128 238891
16. 6 things Linux does better the windows on the desktop 121 137064
17. Windows presence in *nix corporations 117 148385
18. Undeleting files under linux 109 153219
19. How do people do it?!? 103 225816
20. Wjbell's Anti-Linux Lies -- 5/7/2002 96 146768
21. I have had enough of Linux 95 93599
22. Microsoft in stock tax disaster! 94 147690
23. People who say Windows is better than Linux are crazy 91 102348
24. Visual Studio .NET - A Few Things You Should Know ... [LO 90 145947
25. Tap, tap, tap, is this thing on ? 89 138393
26. My "MS -> Linux" story 89 133982
27. Open-Source Fight Flares At Pentagon 89 106667
28. Gentoo compile times vs other 87 181543
29. Microsoft Doesn't Want You To Buy SuSE 8.0 86 142492
30. Unfair competition? 85 150778
31. More MS Woes 85 112218
32. I'm with flatty 100% 85 94754
33. Ok, why dosen't this work. 83 112806
34. can linux do something that windows can't? 82 147931
35. TCO --- Linux vs Windows 82 133218
36. Gartner: Microsoft licensing could push users to StarOffi 82 121850
37. Good Enough to Sleep With but not Good Enough to Marry? 82 120480
38. Software that runs in Windows and not Linux #1 81 77708
39. Star Office 6 isn't looking too good... 80 64647
40. Apology to mjt from flatfish+++ 79 106362
41. An Ode to Vim 78 93298
42. PhotoShop VS GIMP 78 81510
43. Why other browsers SUCK and IE just works.... 78 78796
44. Linux mainstream 77 123586
45. More quality Windows software vs Linux trash for free. 77 67155
46. M$ Anti-Linux Tactic #4 -- Death by Starvation 73 159165
47. OT (?) Nectar of the Gods.... 73 83185
48. Stallman Strikes Back At Gates 72 99279
49. Is Linux a Machination of Satan? 72 63034
50. Linux hating pictures 70 62617
51. Getting the job done (A letter from Joe Enduser to Micros 68 74326
52. Pro-MS Crowd Not Looking Good Lately 67 94477
53. Validated technophobia... 67 67542
54. Can Donn Miller play the piano??? 67 57564
55. IBM# Oracle# 67 55846
56. SuSE 8 ranks 4th on Amazon.co.uk, ahead of Windows XP! 65 105869
57. An alternative to TiVo? 61 94111
58. Linux on Store Shelves 61 86229
59. My Linux experience... 61 66087
60. google says Linux users only comprise 1% !? 60 60680
61. Is Flatfish is a she? 59 74860
62. Watcom goes OpenSource ... 58 102578
63. Uptime is a dead issue 58 92370
63. Linux is better 58 70650
64. Mozilla goes down for the count! 58 66921
66. The State of Linux is Great!! (was: The state of Linux is 57 71497
67. Wal-Mart PC provider to correct Linux modem problem 57 64891
68. ALPHA_SEQ(5,6) --> A question for you all... 56 146555
69. SOT - A Somewhat Intelligent Tek Flik? 55 65419
70. Command Line roundup! Yee Haaaa! 55 53181
71. The GPL: Intellectual Protection or Intellectual Theft? 53 74682
72. Switch to StarOffice for $1200.00?? I don't think so..... 53 66349
73. Big Savings :) 53 63386
74. Melissa Virus Author Finally Jailed 52 82301
75. Erik requests that you address his as... 52 47856
76. God, I have to rant a little here 51 67296
77. Peru rejects MS 51 57623
78. Parsers? 51 43985
79. My animosity towards *free* software 50 65885
80. What is your favourite Linux command? 50 42000
81. Anybody understand Lindows and GPL? 50 40090
82. IMPORTANT WARNING #2 49 113711
83. Again, tell me, how is Windows better than Linux? 49 59795
84. Why .NET will be ahead in 5 years and Java will be margin 48 54860
85. Ever Notice... 48 49327
86. Interesting Linus Quote 47 80864
87. Getting a service to start on Linux Mandrake 8.2 47 60801
88. Shockwave. Linux=nightmare. Windows=easy. 46 50448
89. Enza says NO to M$ 46 43189
90. Extensive Review of Apple's Rackmount Xserve 45 108148
91. WOT - The racist wjbell (Re: Apology to mjt from flatfish 45 93414
92. FreeBSD & Perl = No Future? 45 59759
93. Web Site 45 27382
94. Windows 2000 and Redhat 7.2 43 67908
95. How to make your *Linux* apps FLY! 43 60853
96. Linux is a terrible alternative to Windows 43 48072
97. Windows and Linux: total cost of ownership studies 43 47577
98. BSD, Linux differences? 43 46419
99. StarOffice review 42 67795
100 Windoze ME woes #5 42 60598

A total of 1288 subjects were identified.

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Toplist of programs

Place Program Msgs
1. KNode 3901
2. slrn 3720
3. Pan 2178
4. Microsoft Outlook Express 1526
5. Mozilla 655
6. Forte Agent 545
7. tin 540
8. knews 289
9. Xnews 278
10. Gnus 230
11. Session Scheduler 230
12. MicroPlanet Gravity 178
13. MT-NewsWatcher 107
14. Not 72
15. Forte Free Agent 34
16. Microhard Lookout Expresstrain 27
17. Sylpheed 25
18. Halime 15
19. MacSOUP 12
20. trn 4.0-test72 8
21. Pine 6
22. Codeforge Sophax 5
23. trn 4.0-test76 5
24. Direct 4
25. Mailgate Web 4
26. Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh 4
27. newspost 4
28. Thoth 4
29. Turnpike 4
30. WinVN 0.99.12g 4
31. YA-NewsWatcher 4
32. trn 4.0-test70 3
33. trn 4.0-test74 3
34. Forte Agent v<insert irrational num 2
35. News Rover 6.0.2 1
36. NN 1
37. TIN [ 1
38. Yarn for OS/2 1
39. xrn 1

A total of 39 different programs
(not counting different versions) were identified.


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Florian S.

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Jun 1, 2002, 8:34:27 AM6/1/02
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Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:

<snip>

> Toplist of programs
>
> Place Program Msgs

...


> 16. Microhard Lookout Expresstrain 27

Hahaha! LOL! What is that!?

<snip>

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Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 1, 2002, 8:58:32 AM6/1/02
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SubZero wrote:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
>> Legend:
>> WT = Wintroll
>
> Opinions != Statistics


>
>> WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46 51670
>> 63.5%
>

> SubZero is not a Wintroll.
>
He only behaves like one. Biiig difference

Peter
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Who the fuck is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 1, 2002, 9:20:59 AM6/1/02
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Florian S. threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Toplist of programs
>>
>> Place Program Msgs
> ...
>> 16. Microhard Lookout Expresstrain 27
>
> Hahaha! LOL! What is that!?

Its one of the Cola regulars (Linux advocate) who has a bitter and
twisted sense of humour :)

Roy Culley

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Jun 1, 2002, 10:25:01 AM6/1/02
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In article <slrnafhbkk....@gronk.porter.net>,

"Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> writes:
>
> It's stats time again and I see that the Linux advocates *vastly*
> outnumber the anti-Linux posters (Wintrolls).

Is this the first time that Linux advocates occupy the top 5 places?
No bonuses for the trolls this month. Shall we pass the hat around?
:-)

Roy Culley

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Jun 1, 2002, 10:21:05 AM6/1/02
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> It's stats time again and I see that the Linux advocates *vastly*
> outnumber the anti-Linux posters (Wintrolls).
>
> Legend:
> WT = Wintroll
> FMT = Foul Mouthed Troll
> GE = Giant Ego
>
> <snip>

>
> WT Erik Funkenbusch <er...@visi.com> 474 826895 21.5%

This does an injustice to Ewik. To classify him with the likes of
wjbell and subzero is just wrong. Better would be SB (slimeball), EL
(ethically lacking) or a more general MSAL (MS arse licker).

Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 1, 2002, 1:13:22 PM6/1/02
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SubZero wrote:

> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> SubZero wrote:
>>
>>> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Legend:
>>>> WT = Wintroll
>>>
>>> Opinions != Statistics
>>>
>>>> WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46 51670
>>>> 63.5%
>>>
>>> SubZero is not a Wintroll.
>>>
>> He only behaves like one. Biiig difference
>

> Pointing out that there are little to no mid to high end CAD/CAM
> (Computer Aided Design / Computer Aided Manufacturing) applications
> available for Linux, yet there are an *abundance* of them for Windows,
> is behaving like a Wintroll?!
>
> You people really need to re-gain your grasp on reality.
>

If it were just that. Although you argumented like a real slimeball there.
No, your general argumentation methods are like those from any real
wintroll, in addition, more like the slimy ilk like freefall, Shawn Grant
or flatfish. Your opinion, as far as have have read from you, is just plain
shit.

Peter
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Linux is simply a fad that has been generated by the media

mjt

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Jun 1, 2002, 3:09:27 PM6/1/02
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SubZero wrote:

> You people really need to re-gain your grasp on reality.

operating systems, like drugs and alchohol,
are used to escape reality !!!!

- --
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, # Black holes result
skydiver, and author: "Inside Linux", # when God divides the
"C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" # universe by zero

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mjt

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Jun 1, 2002, 3:10:48 PM6/1/02
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Florian S. wrote:
> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:

>> Toplist of programs
>>
>> Place Program Msgs
> ...
>> 16. Microhard Lookout Expresstrain 27
>
> Hahaha! LOL! What is that!?
>

... and i see we have an OS/2 die-hard fan:

38. Yarn for OS/2 1

- --

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, # Black holes result
skydiver, and author: "Inside Linux", # when God divides the
"C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" # universe by zero

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Florian S.

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Jun 1, 2002, 5:16:06 PM6/1/02
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mjt wrote:

> like drugs and alchohol,

what's the difference?

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Jim Richardson

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Jun 1, 2002, 4:40:00 PM6/1/02
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On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 13:15:02 GMT,
SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> wrote:


> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> SubZero wrote:
>>
>>> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Legend:
>>>> WT = Wintroll
>>>
>>> Opinions != Statistics
>>>
>>>> WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46 51670
>>>> 63.5%
>>>
>>> SubZero is not a Wintroll.
>>>
>> He only behaves like one. Biiig difference
>

> Pointing out that there are little to no mid to high end CAD/CAM
> (Computer Aided Design / Computer Aided Manufacturing) applications
> available for Linux, yet there are an *abundance* of them for Windows,
> is behaving like a Wintroll?!
>

> You people really need to re-gain your grasp on reality.
>


You got spanked on this before, there *are* high end CADCAM apps for
Linux.

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--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, from watches to supercomputers, for grandmas and geeks.

The Ghost In The Machine

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Jun 1, 2002, 5:39:31 PM6/1/02
to
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, mjt
<mtobler@removethis_sbcglobal.net>
wrote
on Sat, 01 Jun 2002 19:09:27 GMT
<HZ8K8.7285$bv.964...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> SubZero wrote:
>
>> You people really need to re-gain your grasp on reality.
>
> operating systems, like drugs and alchohol,
> are used to escape reality !!!!

This could explain a lot of things in Windows, if true.... :-)

[.sigsnip]

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EAC code #191 106d:22h:46m actually running Linux.
[ ] Check here to always compile your own software.

Simon Cooke

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Jun 1, 2002, 5:56:20 PM6/1/02
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"Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> wrote in message
news:slrnafhbkk....@gronk.porter.net...

> It's stats time again and I see that the Linux advocates *vastly*
> outnumber the anti-Linux posters (Wintrolls).
>
> Legend:
> WT = Wintroll
> FMT = Foul Mouthed Troll
> GE = Giant Ego

Where's the section for

TerryPorter = Fuckwit?

Simon


Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 1, 2002, 6:02:25 PM6/1/02
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Simon Cooke wrote:

There is none.
But it seems a special section is needed for clueless morons like you.

Peter
--
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.

Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 1, 2002, 6:05:51 PM6/1/02
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flatf...@mariana.trench wrote:

> Yea!!!
>
> The "Terry Porter Skool of Nutworking"
>
> what a marooooooon.....
>
>
>

Idiot

Peter
--
Microsoft's Guide To System Design:
If it starts working, we'll fix it. Pronto.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 1, 2002, 10:10:08 AM6/1/02
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Peter Köhlmann threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> SubZero wrote:
>
>> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>>
>>> Legend:
>>> WT = Wintroll
>>
>> Opinions != Statistics
>>
>>> WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46 51670
>>> 63.5%
>>
>> SubZero is not a Wintroll.

Subzero is most definetly a Wintroll, an anti-Linux poster, and a
namechanger.

>>
> He only behaves like one. Biiig difference

Heheheh, if a poster looks like a Wintroll, smells like a Wintroll ...

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 1, 2002, 9:40:19 PM6/1/02
to
Roy Culley threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

What was I thinking ?

I'll adjust EF's code next months Roy :)

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 1, 2002, 9:46:10 PM6/1/02
to
Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

<snip anti-Linux spammer waffle>

I see this time waster uses GENUITY isp, Earthlink to cover his tracks
and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
Express 6.00.2600.0000

GENUITY (NET-GNTY-4-0)
3 Van de Graaff Dr.
Burlington, MA 01803
US

Netname: GNTY-4-0
Netblock: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255
Maintainer: GNTY

Coordinator:
Soulia, Cindy (CS15-ARIN) cso...@genuity.net
800-632-7638

No prizes for you Simple Simpon, begone Wintroll.

Simon Cooke

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Jun 1, 2002, 10:17:12 PM6/1/02
to
news:slrnafiu72....@gronk.porter.net...

> Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor
> and this is what they wrote:
>
> <snip anti-Linux spammer waffle>

Actually, Terry, I called you a fuckwit. If you want to hand out labels, I
can quite happily hand out labels too.

Where have I posted a SINGLE anti-Linux comment? Please quote that post. I
don't use X-No-Archive, so you'll have no problem locating it.

I have corrected Linux advocates who seem to think that while they hate
misinformation about Linux, they can quite happily post misinformation about
Windows without someone correcting them.

> I see this time waster uses GENUITY isp, Earthlink to cover his tracks

How am I covering my tracks, Terry? What would you like me to do? Set up my
own ISP? Isn't Earthlink good enough for you?

Shows how much you know; Genuity is Earthlink's broadband provider.

You really are a very very poor troll aren't you?

> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
> Express 6.00.2600.0000

Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how does it
*spread* viruses?

> GENUITY (NET-GNTY-4-0)
> 3 Van de Graaff Dr.
> Burlington, MA 01803
> US
>
> Netname: GNTY-4-0
> Netblock: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255
> Maintainer: GNTY
>
> Coordinator:
> Soulia, Cindy (CS15-ARIN) cso...@genuity.net
> 800-632-7638
>
> No prizes for you Simple Simpon, begone Wintroll.

No prizes for you either, fuckwit. As I said - quote where I've posted
anti-Linux spam. And no, disagreeing with you or proving you wrong doesn't
count.

Simon


rapskat

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Jun 1, 2002, 10:49:06 PM6/1/02
to
Error Log for Sat, 01 Jun 2002 22:17:12 -0400: segfault in module "Simon
Cooke" - dump details are as follows...

>> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
>> Express 6.00.2600.0000
>
> Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how does
> it *spread* viruses?

Ummm....ever heard of MAPI?

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drop the hot to mail me

You Know You Need To Upgrade When...
You get home from work and your system is just finishing booting up from when you turned it on this morning.

Simon Cooke

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Jun 1, 2002, 11:08:20 PM6/1/02
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"rapskat" <rap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:adc132$vjssa$1...@ID-139866.news.dfncis.de...

> Error Log for Sat, 01 Jun 2002 22:17:12 -0400: segfault in module "Simon
> Cooke" - dump details are as follows...
>
> >> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
> >> Express 6.00.2600.0000
> >
> > Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how does
> > it *spread* viruses?
>
> Ummm....ever heard of MAPI?

Ahhh... ok.

Looks like we're both right.

No, OE isn't scriptable.

Yes, it exposes itself as a MAPI client, so if you send email using MAPI, it
will get called to do the transfer.

Simon


Simon Cooke

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Jun 1, 2002, 11:08:46 PM6/1/02
to
"SubZero" <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> wrote in message
news:slrnafj109....@localhost.localdomain...
> Simon Cooke wrote:
>
> [...]

>
> > And no, disagreeing with you or proving you wrong doesn't count.
>
> What is so special about YOU?!

Not a clue.

Simon


Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 1, 2002, 11:08:33 PM6/1/02
to
Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

> "Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnafiu72....@gronk.porter.net...
>> Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor
>> and this is what they wrote:
>>
>> <snip anti-Linux spammer waffle>
>
> Actually, Terry, I called you a fuckwit. If you want to hand out labels, I
> can quite happily hand out labels too.

Its water of a ducks back to me Simon, I've been posting to Cola since
1997, and reading it since 1996. Wintrolls like you have tried
everything on me.

>
> Where have I posted a SINGLE anti-Linux comment? Please quote that post. I
> don't use X-No-Archive, so you'll have no problem locating it.

I'm accusing you of being an anti-linux propagandist right here and now,
Simon, please supply proof you are not, by quoting 20 articles you have
posted to Cola that demonstrate "the benefits of Linux as compared to other
operating systems" ?

It shouldnt be too hard, you have Google to retrieve them from.

>
> I have corrected Linux advocates who seem to think that while they hate
> misinformation about Linux, they can quite happily post misinformation about
> Windows without someone correcting them.

You're another Erik Funkenbusch then Simon, and one of him is enough
already. Sadly Like Erik, this claim of yours "to seek truth in Windows
posts on Cola" is just a cover for you to spew anti-Linux propaganda.

>
>> I see this time waster uses GENUITY isp, Earthlink to cover his tracks
>
> How am I covering my tracks, Terry?

Like all Wintrolls you post under a fake ID Simon.

> What would you like me to do? Set up my
> own ISP? Isn't Earthlink good enough for you?

No actually, Earthklink is a favorite among Wintrolls who obtain a
anonymous Hotmail account then post via Earthlink.

Doesnt your own ISP have a news server ?

>
> Shows how much you know; Genuity is Earthlink's broadband provider.

So what ?

>
> You really are a very very poor troll aren't you?

No Simon I'm a Linux advocate, who has been posting here since 1997.

>
>> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
>> Express 6.00.2600.0000
>
> Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how does it
> *spread* viruses?

Its well known that OE and IE increase your chances of getting a virus
by 99%, you do the research if you want to know why.

>
>> GENUITY (NET-GNTY-4-0)
>> 3 Van de Graaff Dr.
>> Burlington, MA 01803
>> US
>>
>> Netname: GNTY-4-0
>> Netblock: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255
>> Maintainer: GNTY
>>
>> Coordinator:
>> Soulia, Cindy (CS15-ARIN) cso...@genuity.net
>> 800-632-7638
>>
>> No prizes for you Simple Simpon, begone Wintroll.
>
> No prizes for you either, fuckwit.

I'm underwhelmed by your simple insults Wintroll.

> As I said - quote where I've posted
> anti-Linux spam.

See above re pasting 20 pro Linux articles.

> And no, disagreeing with you or proving you wrong doesn't
> count.

It's a free Usenet, disagree as you can, but on Cola be prepared to
back up your anti-Linux spam with *facts*.

Free clue: insults aren't facts.

Simon Cooke

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Jun 1, 2002, 11:38:30 PM6/1/02
to
news:slrnafj31g....@gronk.porter.net...

> > Where have I posted a SINGLE anti-Linux comment? Please quote that post.
I
> > don't use X-No-Archive, so you'll have no problem locating it.
>
> I'm accusing you of being an anti-linux propagandist right here and now,
> Simon, please supply proof you are not, by quoting 20 articles you have
> posted to Cola that demonstrate "the benefits of Linux as compared to
other
> operating systems" ?

Yet again, you prove your lack of basic logic.

Not posting the benefits of Linux is the not the same as slamming it.

> It shouldnt be too hard, you have Google to retrieve them from.
>
> >
> > I have corrected Linux advocates who seem to think that while they hate
> > misinformation about Linux, they can quite happily post misinformation
about
> > Windows without someone correcting them.
>
> You're another Erik Funkenbusch then Simon, and one of him is enough
> already. Sadly Like Erik, this claim of yours "to seek truth in Windows
> posts on Cola" is just a cover for you to spew anti-Linux propaganda.
>
> >
> >> I see this time waster uses GENUITY isp, Earthlink to cover his tracks
> >
> > How am I covering my tracks, Terry?
>
> Like all Wintrolls you post under a fake ID Simon.

Oh, that's priceless. You are a fucking retard.

> Doesnt your own ISP have a news server ?

Yes, and I'm posting through it now, retard.

> >
> > Shows how much you know; Genuity is Earthlink's broadband provider.
>
> So what ?

So if you do an IP trace, retard, then you'll get back to Genuity as my
host.

Now, try something: try posting from news.earthlink.net . Guess what? You
can't, without logging in!

Fucking retard.

> >
> > You really are a very very poor troll aren't you?
>
> No Simon I'm a Linux advocate, who has been posting here since 1997.

No, you're a very poor troll. A poor, sick, deluded troll.

> >
> >> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
> >> Express 6.00.2600.0000
> >
> > Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how does
it
> > *spread* viruses?
>
> Its well known that OE and IE increase your chances of getting a virus
> by 99%, you do the research if you want to know why.

I already know why. It's because they run on Windows, and Windows is a high
target for viruses.

> It's a free Usenet, disagree as you can, but on Cola be prepared to
> back up your anti-Linux spam with *facts*.

How about on COLA you be prepared to back up your anti-Simon spam with some
anti-Linux spam that I've supposedly posted?

> Free clue: insults aren't facts.

Wow? Really? How about taking the advice you dispense?

Simon


BarryMc...@linuxmail.org

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Jun 1, 2002, 11:59:09 PM6/1/02
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 00:15:00 GMT
fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz (SubZero) wrote:

> Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 13:15:02 GMT,
> > SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> wrote:
> >> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> SubZero wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Legend:
> >>>>> WT = Wintroll
> >>>>
> >>>> Opinions != Statistics
> >>>>
> >>>>> WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46 51670
> >>>>> 63.5%
> >>>>
> >>>> SubZero is not a Wintroll.
> >>>>
> >>> He only behaves like one. Biiig difference
> >>
> >> Pointing out that there are little to no mid to high end CAD/CAM
> >> (Computer Aided Design / Computer Aided Manufacturing) applications
> >> available for Linux, yet there are an *abundance* of them for Windows,
> >> is behaving like a Wintroll?!
> >>
> >> You people really need to re-gain your grasp on reality.
> >>
>
> > You got spanked on this before, there *are* high end CADCAM apps for
> > Linux.
>

> I didn't say there weren't any, I said there are many more CAD/CAM
> applications available for Windows than there are for Linux, and even
> UNIX.

How many do you friggin need? Give me a break.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:36:15 AM6/2/02
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Ah yes, the Adhominem attacks from the M$ camp.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:39:22 AM6/2/02
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Guffaw!! IE 6.0 is so security deficient that when a script
kiddie writes a virus, IE 6.0 is quite capable of spreading
it to other computers that use M$ windows. Why do you think
Norton and McAfee make virus detection programs??

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:40:27 AM6/2/02
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That's why it's called Internet Exploder.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:41:29 AM6/2/02
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Here's a quarter and go buy yourself a clue, wintroll.

Simon Cooke

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:48:33 AM6/2/02
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"GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
news:3CF9A0BF...@mist.com...

Excuse me, Mr. High and Mighty, but the ad hominem attacks started with
Terry Porter. He started it, so I'm responding in kind.

If you don't like it, then tell him to stop calling everyone who disagrees
with him a troll.

Simon


mjt

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:49:52 AM6/2/02
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SubZero wrote:

> We use a half dozen Windows CAD/CAM applications

... so, in other words, y'all cant find one that works!

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skydiver, and author: "Inside Linux", # when God divides the
"C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" # universe by zero

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Simon Cooke

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:49:47 AM6/2/02
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"GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
news:3CF9A17A...@mist.com...

Your lack of logical thought astounds me.

We were talking about Outlook Express, so you start making claims regarding
IE 6.0.

Please, stop before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Or at the very
least, try to stay on the subject instead of widening your argument.

Simon


Simon Cooke

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Jun 2, 2002, 12:51:17 AM6/2/02
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"GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
news:3CF9A1BB...@mist.com...

I thought it was called Outlook Express. Internet Explorer is a webbrowser.
Outlook Express is a mail and news client. Please learn the difference. It's
a very simple distinction.

Simon


Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 2, 2002, 1:48:14 AM6/2/02
to
SubZero wrote:

> Jim Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 13:15:02 GMT,
>> SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> wrote:
>>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> SubZero wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Legend:
>>>>>> WT = Wintroll
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions != Statistics
>>>>>
>>>>>> WT SubZero <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> 46
>>>>>> 51670 63.5%
>>>>>
>>>>> SubZero is not a Wintroll.
>>>>>
>>>> He only behaves like one. Biiig difference
>>>
>>> Pointing out that there are little to no mid to high end CAD/CAM
>>> (Computer Aided Design / Computer Aided Manufacturing) applications
>>> available for Linux, yet there are an *abundance* of them for Windows,
>>> is behaving like a Wintroll?!
>>>
>>> You people really need to re-gain your grasp on reality.
>>>
>
>> You got spanked on this before, there *are* high end CADCAM apps for
>> Linux.
>

> I didn't say there weren't any, I said there are many more CAD/CAM
> applications available for Windows than there are for Linux, and even
> UNIX.
>

> To claim otherwise simply implies one has no knowledge at all of the
> subject.
>

Nope, you said several times that there are *none*
But just don't quit the lying now, you will need a lot of practice for your
trolls

Jan

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Jun 3, 2002, 3:48:11 AM6/3/02
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 06:51:17 +0200, Simon Cooke wrote:


> I thought it was called Outlook Express. Internet Explorer is a
> webbrowser. Outlook Express is a mail and news client. Please learn the
> difference. It's a very simple distinction.

Not anymore.. Read Erik Funkenbushes posts on how *everything* is using
the internet explorer engine...

Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 2, 2002, 3:56:58 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke wrote:

You are both right and wrong at the same time.
Outhouse Fast Shit uses the render engine of Internet Exploder.
So it has the bugs of both. Naturally only completely clueless idiots would
use either one

Peter
--
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first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip
away everything that doesn't look like an elephant.

Simon Cooke

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:06:39 AM6/2/02
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"Jan" <jan....@yucom.be> wrote in message
news:pan.2002.06.03.07....@yucom.be...

Congratulations! You see, you completed the thought-chain. You actually
explained why Internet Explorer was being brought into the debate.

Now, if I were a kinder person, I'd assume that this was why the other guy
brought it up. But I don't have limitless patience, so I'll go with my first
(more likely) assumption, which is that he leapfrogged to a different topic
when it suited him.

But hey, go ahead, defend him if you like.

Simon


Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:41:30 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke wrote:

>> Guffaw!! IE 6.0 is so security deficient that when a script
>> kiddie writes a virus, IE 6.0 is quite capable of spreading
>> it to other computers that use M$ windows. Why do you think
>> Norton and McAfee make virus detection programs??
>
> Your lack of logical thought astounds me.
>
> We were talking about Outlook Express, so you start making claims
> regarding IE 6.0.
>
> Please, stop before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Or at the very
> least, try to stay on the subject instead of widening your argument.

Hey, guess what rendering engine OE uses...

--
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Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:49:32 AM6/2/02
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Simon Cooke wrote:

Just because you didn't get it in the first place...
Anyway, now you know that OE uses internet explorer rendering engine.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:14:59 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

> "rapskat" <rap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:adc132$vjssa$1...@ID-139866.news.dfncis.de...
>> Error Log for Sat, 01 Jun 2002 22:17:12 -0400: segfault in module "Simon
>> Cooke" - dump details are as follows...
>>
>> >> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
>> >> Express 6.00.2600.0000
>> >
>> > Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how does
>> > it *spread* viruses?
>>
>> Ummm....ever heard of MAPI?
>
> Ahhh... ok.
>
> Looks like we're both right.

Sorry, you are wrong, Rappy and I are right.

>
> No, OE isn't scriptable.

So what ?

>
> Yes, it exposes itself as a MAPI client, so if you send email using MAPI, it
> will get called to do the transfer.

Exactly as per my claim which was :-


" and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
Express 6.00.2600.0000"

If you're going to play with the big boys Simple Simon, you had better
get some clues and fast.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:17:08 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

> "GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
> news:3CF9A1BB...@mist.com...
>
>>

>> That's why it's called Internet Exploder.
>
> I thought it was called Outlook Express. Internet Explorer is a webbrowser.
> Outlook Express is a mail and news client. Please learn the difference. It's
> a very simple distinction.


You're so far out of your league Wintroll, its pathetic. Grey has
forgotten more than you will learn in the next 20 years.

Typical Wintroll, a knowall and arrogant. Who else would post on Cola
against its charter ?

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:18:50 AM6/2/02
to
Peter Köhlmann threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote:
>> I thought it was called Outlook Express. Internet Explorer is a
>> webbrowser. Outlook Express is a mail and news client. Please learn the
>> difference. It's a very simple distinction.
>>
>
> You are both right and wrong at the same time.
> Outhouse Fast Shit uses the render engine of Internet Exploder.
> So it has the bugs of both. Naturally only completely clueless idiots would

More free education for the Wintrolls, it must be why they post here
against the Cola charter ;-)

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:21:28 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

>> Its well known that OE and IE increase your chances of getting a virus
>> by 99%, you do the research if you want to know why.
>
> I already know why. It's because they run on Windows, and Windows is a high
> target for viruses.

Nope, Windows is an easy *platform* for viruses.

>
>> It's a free Usenet, disagree as you can, but on Cola be prepared to
>> back up your anti-Linux spam with *facts*.
>
> How about on COLA you be prepared to back up your anti-Simon spam with some
> anti-Linux spam that I've supposedly posted?

I'm still waiting for your 20 pro Linux posts, Wintroll.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:24:19 AM6/2/02
to
GreyCloud threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote:
>> > Free clue: insults aren't facts.
>>
>> Wow? Really? How about taking the advice you dispense?
>>
>
> Here's a quarter and go buy yourself a clue, wintroll.

Greycloud you're a generous man, but if you keep giving quarters to
Wintrolls, you'll soon use up your retirement savings!

Cola is already giving this Wintroll a free clue, and hes learnt a lot
about Windows already.

(Its why they come here in the first place, as Cola is the only place
they actually *can* find out the facts about Windows)

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:28:48 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> "GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
> news:3CF9A0BF...@mist.com...

>> Ah yes, the Adhominem attacks from the M$ camp.
>
> Excuse me, Mr. High and Mighty, but the ad hominem attacks started with
> Terry Porter. He started it, so I'm responding in kind.
>
> If you don't like it, then tell him to stop calling everyone who disagrees
> with him a troll.

If you can't stand the heat Simple Simon, you had better get out of the
kitchen.

I disagree with many people here, ask the man with the King sized Ego,
yttrx ?

Ask him if I have ever accused him of being a Wintroll ?

I'm accusing *you* of being a Wintroll, not a Troll, because Trolls
especially good ones are true artists, you are just another ignorant
Windows user who knowing nothing about his OS, thinks its so good that
you'll "protect" its reputation in Cola, a Linux advocacy group.

Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 8:42:10 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke wrote:

> No, OE isn't scriptable.

But expoitable.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:30:44 AM6/2/02
to
Florian S. threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote:
>
(greycloud)

>>> Guffaw!! IE 6.0 is so security deficient that when a script
>>> kiddie writes a virus, IE 6.0 is quite capable of spreading
>>> it to other computers that use M$ windows. Why do you think
>>> Norton and McAfee make virus detection programs??

>>
>> Your lack of logical thought astounds me.
>>
>> We were talking about Outlook Express, so you start making claims
>> regarding IE 6.0.
>>
>> Please, stop before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Or at the very
>> least, try to stay on the subject instead of widening your argument.
>
> Hey, guess what rendering engine OE uses...

Bwahahahaha, this is just tooo funny :)

Simple Simon is proving true to his name in every way !

alt

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Jun 2, 2002, 3:24:22 AM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke wrote in comp.os.linux.advocacy the following drivel:

> "Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> wrote in
> message news:slrnafj31g....@gronk.porter.net...

*SNIP*

>> >
>> >> and the greatest spreader of viruses knowne to man, Microsoft Outlook
>> >> Express 6.00.2600.0000
>> >
>> > Really? Outlook Express isn't scriptable, so please, pray tell, how
>> > does
> it
>> > *spread* viruses?
>>
>> Its well known that OE and IE increase your chances of getting a virus
>> by 99%, you do the research if you want to know why.
>
> I already know why. It's because they run on Windows, and Windows is a
> high target for viruses.
>

Pfff... what reality altering drugs are you on and where can I get some? OE
and IE are prime targets for virii because they are so insecure. Try and
email me a linux virus. KMail doesn't execute content. For fuck's sake, I
have to save HTML mail and read it with Konqueror. Now I'll send you some
Windows virus... oops.. you're infected....

--
Linux: Because you can!

All Rise for the Microsoft Anthem: "BAAAAAH!"

Michael Vester

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Jun 2, 2002, 2:30:24 PM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke expelled:

> "SubZero" <fho...@ebpurfgre.ee.pbz> wrote in message
> news:slrnafj109....@localhost.localdomain...
> > Simon Cooke wrote:
> >
> > [...]


> >
> > > And no, disagreeing with you or proving you wrong doesn't count.
> >

> > What is so special about YOU?!
>
> Not a clue.
>
> Simon
>
>
Demonstrating great insight. I am impressed.

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Linux Counter Registration #126647

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 2:49:59 PM6/2/02
to

I know, but they both explode. I have to start up the mail
program first before using any other program for the wifes
computer, otherwise it's freeze up time. Real good software
there... NOT.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 2:51:05 PM6/2/02
to
"Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" wrote:
>
> Peter Köhlmann threw some tea leaves on the floor
> and this is what they wrote:
>
> > Simon Cooke wrote:
> >> I thought it was called Outlook Express. Internet Explorer is a
> >> webbrowser. Outlook Express is a mail and news client. Please learn the
> >> difference. It's a very simple distinction.
> >>
> >
> > You are both right and wrong at the same time.
> > Outhouse Fast Shit uses the render engine of Internet Exploder.
> > So it has the bugs of both. Naturally only completely clueless idiots would
>
> More free education for the Wintrolls, it must be why they post here
> against the Cola charter ;-)

Correct. It's our civic duty to educate the less
priviledged members of society.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 2:52:44 PM6/2/02
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So, you're a member of the billion flies club eh??

Richard Revis

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:03:26 PM6/2/02
to
Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:

> 17. Richard Revis <ne...@spamtrap.bottest.com> 255 181968
> 29.7%

Only #17? I must try harder :o)

--
Hiroshima 45, Tschernobyl 86, Windows 98
8:03pm up 8 days, 7:11, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.10, 0.04
The current MP3 is LOU - Lenny Kravitz - Again - New S
E-mail address munged to prevent spam.

Richard Revis

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:05:03 PM6/2/02
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Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:

<snip stats>

What do you use to generate the stats?

--
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GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 3:27:56 PM6/2/02
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Guffaw!!! I see I'm talking to an idiot now. M$ is so
riddled with security holes it makes swiss cheese look like
brie. Ever heard of Nimbda, Code Red, Klez?? You must be
some kind of blind fool to not make the connection... of
course now I see the loose connection... you.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 3:29:11 PM6/2/02
to
Simon Cooke wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
> news:3CF9A0BF...@mist.com...

> > Simon Cooke wrote:
> > >
> > > "Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> wrote in
> message
> > > news:slrnafhbkk....@gronk.porter.net...
> > > > It's stats time again and I see that the Linux advocates *vastly*
> > > > outnumber the anti-Linux posters (Wintrolls).
> > > >
> > > > Legend:
> > > > WT = Wintroll
> > > > FMT = Foul Mouthed Troll
> > > > GE = Giant Ego
> > >
> > > Where's the section for
> > >
> > > TerryPorter = Fuckwit?

> > >
> >
> > Ah yes, the Adhominem attacks from the M$ camp.
>
> Excuse me, Mr. High and Mighty, but the ad hominem attacks started with
> Terry Porter. He started it, so I'm responding in kind.
>
> If you don't like it, then tell him to stop calling everyone who disagrees
> with him a troll.
>

Too late now idiot. You've proven yourself to be pretty
stupid.
Gawd it must hurt to be that stupid.

Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:36:58 PM6/2/02
to
Richard Revis wrote:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
>> 17. Richard Revis <ne...@spamtrap.bottest.com> 255 181968
>> 29.7%
>
> Only #17? I must try harder :o)
>

I am as well. Right now. ;)

Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:37:29 PM6/2/02
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GreyCloud wrote:

Ignorance is bliss.

Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:39:12 PM6/2/02
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GreyCloud wrote:

LOL ;)
I bet now some troll responds with something with "elite" in it.

Florian

Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 2, 2002, 3:39:01 PM6/2/02
to
SubZero wrote:

> Richard Revis wrote:
>
>> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>>
>> <snip stats>
>>
>> What do you use to generate the stats?
>
>

> Another stupid Linux advocate that can't read. Sheeze.
>

Another stupid SubZero posting

Peter
--
Your depth of comprehension may tend to make you lax in worldly ways.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 2:54:05 PM6/2/02
to
"Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" wrote:
>
> GreyCloud threw some tea leaves on the floor
> and this is what they wrote:
>
> > Simon Cooke wrote:
> >> > Free clue: insults aren't facts.
> >>
> >> Wow? Really? How about taking the advice you dispense?
> >>
> >
> > Here's a quarter and go buy yourself a clue, wintroll.
>
> Greycloud you're a generous man, but if you keep giving quarters to
> Wintrolls, you'll soon use up your retirement savings!
>
> Cola is already giving this Wintroll a free clue, and hes learnt a lot
> about Windows already.
>
> (Its why they come here in the first place, as Cola is the only place
> they actually *can* find out the facts about Windows)
>

Ah, I'm a generous man at times. But then maybe a spanking
is in order for our errant young wintroll??


Richard Revis

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:43:06 PM6/2/02
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SubZero wrote:

> Another stupid Linux advocate that can't read. Sheeze.

Whoops. Now everything is clear.

--
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8:42pm up 8 days, 7:51, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.10, 0.08

Simon Cooke

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:28:38 PM6/2/02
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"GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> wrote in message
news:3CFA68D7...@mist.com...

Liar. Post proof.

Oh you can't?

Liar. Liar. Liar.

Simon


Peter Köhlmann

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:54:49 PM6/2/02
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flatf...@mariana.trench wrote:

>>
>>Liar. Post proof.
>>
>>Oh you can't?
>>
>>Liar. Liar. Liar.
>>
>>Simon
>>

> None of the Lin-O-Idiots in this group produce any proof.
>
> Of course they seem to always be the first ones looking for proof when a
> Winvocate posts something.
>
> Honestly I think they make most of this crap up off the tops of their
> pointy heads.
>

Now isn't that cozy?
Simon "the brain" Cooke and flatfish, the wintroll with the biggest number
of identities on usenet hugging each other. Where's my handkerchief? I'm in
tears already. You two should do that more often. It's feels good, I sure

Peter
--
Who the fuck is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?

Don't have a cow man...

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Jun 2, 2002, 5:08:12 PM6/2/02
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 16:35:26 -0400, flatfish+++ wrote:

> None of the Lin-O-Idiots in this group produce any proof.
>
> Of course they seem to always be the first ones looking for proof when a
> Winvocate posts something.
>
> Honestly I think they make most of this crap up off the tops of their
> pointy heads.
>
>

Is that why you were shown to be an idiot when you said SIIG didn't
support Linux??

Of course, You've never posted any kind of proof for any of the posts
you've ever made. You can't even post a single URL on Google to show that
you have.

Jan

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Jun 3, 2002, 3:18:51 PM6/3/02
to

>>Honestly I think they make most of this crap up off the tops of their
>>pointy heads.
>>
>
> I don't. I think they're so convinced the software is bad that they
> subconsciously sabotage their systems to uphold their delusions.


They are subconsciously sabotage their systems.. You are so funny :-)

Anyway, following your logic.

If 'Lin-O-Idiots' are subconsciously sabotaging their system, isn't that

a fault of the system not of the user?

If I want to sabotage my Linux System I have to do that very
consciously. I have to do stuff like dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda
bs=512 count=1 or rm -f /sbin/init && mv /bin/false /sbin/init or
putting a reboot command in my crontab..

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:59:44 AM6/2/02
to
alt threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Simon Cooke wrote in comp.os.linux.advocacy the following drivel:
>
>> "Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> wrote in
>> message news:slrnafj31g....@gronk.porter.net...

>>> Its well known that OE and IE increase your chances of getting a virus
>>> by 99%, you do the research if you want to know why.
>>
>> I already know why. It's because they run on Windows, and Windows is a
>> high target for viruses.
>>
>
> Pfff... what reality altering drugs are you on and where can I get some? OE
> and IE are prime targets for virii because they are so insecure. Try and
> email me a linux virus. KMail doesn't execute content. For fuck's sake, I
> have to save HTML mail and read it with Konqueror. Now I'll send you some
> Windows virus... oops.. you're infected....

I actually went thru a Windows virus running period when I had WINE
installed, just to see what they did!

They always wanted a socket it was a real eye opener, but then my WINE
install started misbehaving and I deleted it.

Windows, which one of the over 52,000 viruses do you want to run today
?

Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:09:50 PM6/2/02
to
SubZero wrote:

> There isn't any need to put effort into it, Linux is pretty much self
> sabotaging.

This, I guess, is a very negative, unprovoked,
untrue post about Linux IMHO.

Jim Richardson

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:30:46 PM6/2/02
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

nonono, bliss was another of those linux viruses that never actually
propagated anywhere. There's what? 4 or 5? linux viruses to date? and one was
a proof of concept, (never seen in the wild) another, the only example
the anti-virus people have, was sent in by the author, none found in the
wild. and the others, had such limited effect that no-one noticed them.

Contrast that to the thousands of viruses for micros~1 stuff in the last
couple of years. Many of which did considerable harm, and that's just
the viruses, not the worms, trojans and other exploits.


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQE8+qqld90bcYOAWPYRAqNCAKCWu0PKliFfdgPmWK3ArDWoTu389QCgqVb/
l05/eQ7WtZ+6Nbg76YPm40E=
=4SJ2
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, from watches to supercomputers, for grandmas and geeks.

Lee Wei Shun

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:19:37 PM6/2/02
to
"Florian S." wrote:
>
> SubZero wrote:
>
> > There isn't any need to put effort into it, Linux is pretty much self
> > sabotaging.
>
> This, I guess, is a very negative, unprovoked,
> untrue post about Linux IMHO.
>

S'ok, IMO, most of his posts are self-sabotaging, anyways. ;)

Cheers,
Wei Shun

Florian S.

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:21:54 PM6/2/02
to
SubZero wrote:

> Florian S. wrote:
>
>> SubZero wrote:
>>
>>> There isn't any need to put effort into it, Linux is pretty much self
>>> sabotaging.
>>
>> This, I guess, is a very negative, unprovoked,
>> untrue post about Linux IMHO.
>

> Well, check out some of the vitriol in the recent `United Linux`
> threads. Hardly sounds like Linux is uniting, sounds more like a lot
> of people despise the idea. It appears as if getting everybody in the
> Linux community to agree on something as critical as a standards based
> distribution [*] is virtually impossible, therefore Linux is self
> sabotaging.

Then say so. Say "the Linux Community" and not just "Linux".

Florian

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:35:06 PM6/2/02
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Richard Revis threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
><snip stats>
>
> What do you use to generate the stats?

Leafnode to provide a news spool and Superstat to analyse it. I used to
use "statnews" but after installing SGL I don't have all the Perl bits
to run it.

I hope to provide a better system in the near future by putting my news
spool in a database for speed and easier archiving.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:37:34 PM6/2/02
to
Jim Richardson threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

>>>> Excuse me, Mr. High and Mighty, but the ad hominem attacks started with
>>>> Terry Porter. He started it, so I'm responding in kind.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't like it, then tell him to stop calling everyone who
>>>> disagrees with him a troll.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Too late now idiot. You've proven yourself to be pretty
>>> stupid.
>>> Gawd it must hurt to be that stupid.
>>
>> Ignorance is bliss.
>>
>
> nonono, bliss was another of those linux viruses that never actually
> propagated anywhere. There's what? 4 or 5?

Seven I think in total, right *now*.

> Contrast that to the thousands of viruses for micros~1 stuff in the last
> couple of years.

Over 52,000 according to Nortons, and that was about 4 months agao.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:39:24 PM6/2/02
to
GreyCloud threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

> "Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" wrote:
>> Greycloud you're a generous man, but if you keep giving quarters to
>> Wintrolls, you'll soon use up your retirement savings!
>>
>> Cola is already giving this Wintroll a free clue, and hes learnt a lot
>> about Windows already.
>>
>> (Its why they come here in the first place, as Cola is the only place
>> they actually *can* find out the facts about Windows)
>>
>
> Ah, I'm a generous man at times. But then maybe a spanking
> is in order for our errant young wintroll??

He has been spanked, fried and roasted and had few nice kicks to his
Wintroll head so far, compliments of the Cola Wintroll re-education
team :)

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:31:52 PM6/2/02
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Richard Revis threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
>> 17. Richard Revis <ne...@spamtrap.bottest.com> 255 181968
>> 29.7%
>
> Only #17? I must try harder :o)

Hey its a good start, there were over 700 posters identified and you
came #17!

You haven't been here long either, and a warm welcome to Cola Richard

Linonut

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:11:23 PM6/2/02
to
After takin' a swig o' grog, SubZero belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> [*] When I ask our CAD/CAM software vendors if and when they're going
> to port to Linux, the second response after "there isn't enough demand
> yet", is "which one of the many distributions would we support?"

All of them. Source code and autotools, baby.

> Now,
> United Linux will be an excellent answer.

The proof is in the pudding, Sub.

> If it doesn't cave in from
> the idiocy of some fanatics that is.

Perhaps those "fanatics" are merely "conservative"?

Chris

P.S. Fortune gave me a VMS joke for the sig <grin>
--
It appears that after his death, Albert Einstein found himself
working as the doorkeeper at the Pearly Gates. One slow day, he
found that he had time to chat with the new entrants. To the first one
he asked, "What's your IQ?" The new arrival replied, "190". They
discussed Einstein's theory of relativity for hours. When the second
new arrival came, Einstein once again inquired as to the newcomer's
IQ. The answer this time came "120". To which Einstein replied, "Tell
me, how did the Cubs do this year?" and they proceeded to talk for half
an hour or so. To the final arrival, Einstein once again posed the
question, "What's your IQ?". Upon receiving the answer "70",
Einstein smiled and replied, "Got a minute to tell me about VMS 4.0?"

kickaha

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Jun 2, 2002, 6:56:13 PM6/2/02
to
SubZero wrote:

> flatf...@mariana.trench wrote:
>
>> None of the Lin-O-Idiots in this group produce any proof.
>

> When they do, it's usually *their* version of the trvth.


>
>> Of course they seem to always be the first ones looking for proof
>> when a Winvocate posts something.
>

> And when the proof does get posted it's dismissed in a flurry of much
> thrashing around and arm waving.


>
>> Honestly I think they make most of this crap up off the tops of their
>> pointy heads.
>
> I don't. I think they're so convinced the software is bad that they
> subconsciously sabotage their systems to uphold their delusions.
>

To all interested readers who are in COLA to find
out about Linux:

The post to which this is a response is an attempt
to portray Linux in a negative manner.

The poster, SubZero, has no intention of assisting
you with your interest in Linux.

In this post, SubZero is attempting to substantiate a post by
flatfish+++, in which flatfish+++ asserts that Linux advocates
have no basis for comparing the benefits of Linux to Microsoft
Windows.

The interested reader is invited to try a Linux distribution
to determine for him/her-self whether Linux is a more stable OS
than Microsoft Windows.

We who advocate Linux hope that you will find it to be a better
OS than Microsoft Windows, and that you can make your own determination
as to whether the flaws many of us have found in Microsoft Windows
are indeed real, and whether Linux removes those flaws from your
computer-use.

It is unfortunate that you have been exposed to this mis-information.
We who enjoy the use of Linux hope that you will give it a try and
find out for yourself that is is a useable OS that will provide you
with a valuable tool to support your computing needs.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 11:55:23 PM6/2/02
to

We have our excuse in line for that. We just say we are
being very liberal and generous in our educating them.

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 11:57:28 PM6/2/02
to

Guffaw!!! Now how can I post proof when the machine is
locked up solid??
You leave no room for logic in your case. IEs e-mail
program just locks up if some other program starts out first
and then is shut down normally. Doesn't M$ test their stuff
before sending it out??

GreyCloud

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Jun 2, 2002, 11:59:19 PM6/2/02
to
flatf...@mariana.trench wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 20:28:38 GMT, "Simon Cooke"
> None of the Lin-O-Idiots in this group produce any proof.
>
> Of course they seem to always be the first ones looking for proof when a
> Winvocate posts something.
>
> Honestly I think they make most of this crap up off the tops of their pointy
> heads.
>

Oh, I didn't make this one up. Wifes' HP doesn't seem to
like IE 6.0 email program. When she uses her spreadsheet
program first and then quits to check her email the splash
screen for IE 6.0 freezes up the computer solid. It's the
only program that does that.

GreyCloud

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Jun 3, 2002, 12:00:35 AM6/3/02
to
SubZero wrote:

>
> flatf...@mariana.trench wrote:
>
> > None of the Lin-O-Idiots in this group produce any proof.
>
> When they do, it's usually *their* version of the trvth.
>
> > Of course they seem to always be the first ones looking for proof
> > when a Winvocate posts something.
>
> And when the proof does get posted it's dismissed in a flurry of much
> thrashing around and arm waving.
>
> > Honestly I think they make most of this crap up off the tops of their
> > pointy heads.
>
> I don't. I think they're so convinced the software is bad that they
> subconsciously sabotage their systems to uphold their delusions.
>

Oh, I couldn't afford to sabotage the wifes' computer.
HORRORRRRSSSSS!!!
I have to keep it working with windows or else! :-)

GreyCloud

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Jun 3, 2002, 12:02:40 AM6/3/02
to
SubZero wrote:
>
> Florian S. wrote:
>
> > SubZero wrote:
> >
> >> There isn't any need to put effort into it, Linux is pretty much self
> >> sabotaging.
> >
> > This, I guess, is a very negative, unprovoked,
> > untrue post about Linux IMHO.
>
> Well, check out some of the vitriol in the recent `United Linux`
> threads. Hardly sounds like Linux is uniting, sounds more like a lot
> of people despise the idea. It appears as if getting everybody in the
> Linux community to agree on something as critical as a standards based
> distribution [*] is virtually impossible, therefore Linux is self
> sabotaging.
>

Actually, I didn't follow that thread too much. I still
don't know what to make out of it, so haven't said much
about it.

> [*] When I ask our CAD/CAM software vendors if and when they're going
> to port to Linux, the second response after "there isn't enough demand

> yet", is "which one of the many distributions would we support?" Now,
> United Linux will be an excellent answer. If it doesn't cave in from


> the idiocy of some fanatics that is.
>

> --
> SubZero rot13 email address to reply
>
> That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
> -- Trevor Goodchild, AEon Flux

GreyCloud

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:16:34 AM6/3/02
to
"Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" wrote:
>
> GreyCloud threw some tea leaves on the floor
> and this is what they wrote:
>
> > "Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net" wrote:
> >> Greycloud you're a generous man, but if you keep giving quarters to
> >> Wintrolls, you'll soon use up your retirement savings!
> >>
> >> Cola is already giving this Wintroll a free clue, and hes learnt a lot
> >> about Windows already.
> >>
> >> (Its why they come here in the first place, as Cola is the only place
> >> they actually *can* find out the facts about Windows)
> >>
> >
> > Ah, I'm a generous man at times. But then maybe a spanking
> > is in order for our errant young wintroll??
>
> He has been spanked, fried and roasted and had few nice kicks to his
> Wintroll head so far, compliments of the Cola Wintroll re-education
> team :)
>

Pretty soon it's going to be called the wintroll grist mill.
Now if we could find a market for ground up wintrolls.

kickaha

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:31:32 PM6/2/02
to
<Started by a winvcate... (a while ago)>

<snip, cuz it doesn't matter much, does it?>


>>
>> Oh you can't?
>>
>> Liar. Liar. Liar.
>>
>

You forgot "Pants on fire"

Can't you guys get a valid argument?

kickaha

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:33:58 PM6/2/02
to
GreyCloud wrote:

My sympathies...

Johan Lindquist

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:39:09 AM6/3/02
to
Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 03:35 GMT, peering quizzically at his shoes,
Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> suddenly blurted:

> I used to use "statnews" but after installing SGL I don't have all
> the Perl bits to run it.

'perl -MCPAN -e shell' :)

hth,

/Johan

--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. Perth ---> *
8:37am up 3 days, 2:02, 3 users, load average: 1.31, 1.36, 1.34
$ cat /dev/bollocks Registered Linux user #261729
maximize granular solutions

Jan

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Jun 4, 2002, 3:22:46 AM6/4/02
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SubZero wrote:

> Florian S. wrote:
>
>
>>SubZero wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There isn't any need to put effort into it, Linux is pretty much self
>>>sabotaging.
>>>
>>This, I guess, is a very negative, unprovoked,
>>untrue post about Linux IMHO.
>>
>

> Well, check out some of the vitriol in the recent `United Linux`
> threads. Hardly sounds like Linux is uniting, sounds more like a lot
> of people despise the idea. It appears as if getting everybody in the
> Linux community to agree on something as critical as a standards based
> distribution [*] is virtually impossible, therefore Linux is self
> sabotaging.
>


1/ The problem is with the licensing of United Linux.
2/ There are standards, on which you should base your Linux
distribution. Search for: LSB, Linux Standards Base. United Linux will
make sure that they are fully LSB compliant. The 'uniting' of linux
won't come out of the United Linux project, is is already coming thanks
to the LSB project. Will it mean there will be less distributions?
Offcourse not, having multiple distributions will encourage competition
and thus fast improvements. Diversity isn't a bad thing.

You have different brands and choices in cars, vcrs, telephones, stereo,
televisionsets, magic markers, books, chairs, ...
Yet they all follow basic standards, so that you still can develop
things for them. You can play a brand A music cd on a brand B stereo,
but also on brand C, D, F,... Yet company A didn't have to check or
specifically develop their music cd's for a particular brand. They
follow a basic standard, and so does the stereo.

Richard Revis

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Jun 3, 2002, 7:46:33 AM6/3/02
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Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:

> Hey its a good start, there were over 700 posters identified and you
> came #17!

I think I can live with it :o)

> You haven't been here long either, and a warm welcome to Cola Richard
> :)

Thank you. A very mixed NG this, exqually split between the helpful and the
trolls. I think I like it here.

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Richard Revis

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Jun 3, 2002, 7:50:26 AM6/3/02
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SubZero wrote:

> Well, check out some of the vitriol in the recent `United Linux`
> threads. Hardly sounds like Linux is uniting, sounds more like a lot
> of people despise the idea. It appears as if getting everybody in the
> Linux community to agree on something as critical as a standards based
> distribution [*] is virtually impossible, therefore Linux is self
> sabotaging.

There is no argument that United Linux is a good thing - it will provide
more enterprise level choice than Red HAt or Red Hat. The way they are
choosing to operate is the bit that isn't liked. Red Hat have always been
commited to open source and uphold the principle rather than the letter of
the GPL - UL don't seem to be doing that.

> [*] When I ask our CAD/CAM software vendors if and when they're going
> to port to Linux, the second response after "there isn't enough demand
> yet", is "which one of the many distributions would we support?" Now,
> United Linux will be an excellent answer. If it doesn't cave in from
> the idiocy of some fanatics that is.

If they release the source then it will work on (almost) anything, and you
can bet that someone out there will spend time making binaries for
RedHat/Mandrake/Debian for them. If they insist on a Binary only distro,
then Open Office or RealOne player (for Linux) is proof that it can be
done.

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Linonut

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Jun 3, 2002, 7:32:50 AM6/3/02
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After takin' a swig o' grog, GreyCloud belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> Guffaw!!! Now how can I post proof when the machine is
> locked up solid??
> You leave no room for logic in your case. IEs e-mail
> program just locks up if some other program starts out first
> and then is shut down normally. Doesn't M$ test their stuff
> before sending it out??

I had the same kind of problem when I *upgraded* to Win 2000.

The easiest fix was to slick and install from scratch. That was
a few years ago, though <grin>

Chris

GeneralPF

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Jun 3, 2002, 9:23:59 AM6/3/02
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> WT GeneralPF <y...@must.be.joking.mil> 91 90145 64.6%

I object. Being a Windows-hater, I don't see how I'm a "Wintroll". I
prefer to be labeled a "Foul Mouthed Troll".

Cool stats.

Donn Miller

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Jun 3, 2002, 11:45:55 AM6/3/02
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flatf...@mariana.trench wrote:

> None of the Lin-O-Idiots in this group produce any proof.

Of course, many a person in here has shown you proof that their Linux
fonts don't "look like shit", and all you do is say "that's
ugly/horrible" without even visiting the link. In case you didn't know,
this is where people are supposed to be advocating Linux. Surprised by
the reactions you get when you deliberately go against the grain?

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Donn Miller

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Jun 3, 2002, 11:48:30 AM6/3/02
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SubZero wrote:

> There isn't any need to put effort into it, Linux is pretty much self
> sabotaging.

Sounds like the experiences I've been having with WinME. Every time I
ran Windows Update, my system got more and more unstable. Sounds like a
self sabotaging system if I ever saw one...

Donn Miller

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Jun 3, 2002, 11:50:19 AM6/3/02
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SubZero wrote:

> Well, check out some of the vitriol in the recent `United Linux`
> threads. Hardly sounds like Linux is uniting, sounds more like a lot
> of people despise the idea. It appears as if getting everybody in the
> Linux community to agree on something as critical as a standards based
> distribution [*] is virtually impossible, therefore Linux is self
> sabotaging.

Too bad it's not perfect, like FreeBSD...

> [*] When I ask our CAD/CAM software vendors if and when they're going
> to port to Linux, the second response after "there isn't enough demand
> yet", is "which one of the many distributions would we support?" Now,
> United Linux will be an excellent answer. If it doesn't cave in from
> the idiocy of some fanatics that is.
>

And if it won't run under Linux, it won't run under FreeBSD.

The Ghost In The Machine

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Jun 3, 2002, 4:50:28 PM6/3/02
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net
<tjpo...@gronk.porter.net>
wrote
on Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:37:34 +1000
<slrnafli2u....@gronk.porter.net>:

> Jim Richardson threw some tea leaves on the floor
> and this is what they wrote:
>
>>>>> Excuse me, Mr. High and Mighty, but the ad hominem attacks started with
>>>>> Terry Porter. He started it, so I'm responding in kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like it, then tell him to stop calling everyone who
>>>>> disagrees with him a troll.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too late now idiot. You've proven yourself to be pretty
>>>> stupid.
>>>> Gawd it must hurt to be that stupid.
>>>
>>> Ignorance is bliss.
>>>
>>
>> nonono, bliss was another of those linux viruses that never actually
>> propagated anywhere. There's what? 4 or 5?
>
> Seven I think in total, right *now*.

*Seven*?

Wow. Considering that Linux is either 0.3% or ~ 20% of the desktop
(depending on whom one believes), that's a darned good feat.

After all, 0.3% * 52,000 = 156. :-)

To be fair, if I were a virus writer, I'd concentrate on the
most populous platform first for maximum damage. :-) I suspect
a lot more, erm, effort was put into writing nasties for Windows.
But .VBS apparently does make it darned simple... :-)

>
>> Contrast that to the thousands of viruses for micros~1 stuff in the last
>> couple of years.
>
> Over 52,000 according to Nortons, and that was about 4 months agao.
>

Ouch.

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The Ghost In The Machine

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Jun 3, 2002, 4:56:05 PM6/3/02
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Richard Revis
<ne...@spamtrap.bottest.com>
wrote
on Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:46:33 +0000
<adfhg2$10dq4e$2...@ID-126341.news.dfncis.de>:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
>> Hey its a good start, there were over 700 posters identified and you
>> came #17!
>
> I think I can live with it :o)
>
>> You haven't been here long either, and a warm welcome to Cola Richard
>> :)
>
> Thank you. A very mixed NG this, exqually split between the helpful and the
> trolls. I think I like it here.
>

Well, it's mixed all right; we Linvocates are definitely a mixed bag,
and the Wintrolls are definitely mixed up. :-)

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>>> Make Signatures Fast! <<<

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 3, 2002, 10:40:12 AM6/3/02
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Richard Revis threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net wrote:
>
>> Hey its a good start, there were over 700 posters identified and you
>> came #17!
>
> I think I can live with it :o)
>
>> You haven't been here long either, and a warm welcome to Cola Richard
>> :)
>
> Thank you. A very mixed NG this, exqually split between the helpful and the
> trolls. I think I like it here.

Be warned it really is the "hotel Colafornia" ;-)

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 3, 2002, 10:42:51 AM6/3/02
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GeneralPF threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

My apologies, I'll correct your code next month to "FMT.

>
> Cool stats.

Thanks be to the author of Superstat.

Terry Porter@gronk.porter.net

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Jun 4, 2002, 2:42:49 AM6/4/02
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Johan Lindquist threw some tea leaves on the floor

and this is what they wrote:

> Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 03:35 GMT, peering quizzically at his shoes,
> Terry Por...@gronk.porter.net <tjpo...@gronk.porter.net> suddenly blurted:
>> I used to use "statnews" but after installing SGL I don't have all
>> the Perl bits to run it.
>
> 'perl -MCPAN -e shell' :)

Cool :)

root@gronk:/home/tp# perl -MCPAN -e shell

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.61)
ReadLine support enabled

cpan>

Thanks Yohan!

chrisv

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Jun 4, 2002, 8:51:25 AM6/4/02
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GreyCloud <cum...@mist.com> wrote:

>That's why it's called Internet Exploder.

It's Internet Exploiter.

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