Now The Left Are Teaching Young Children To Masturbate

[Seeman]

This one is off the charts even for the sick, mentally ill, radical
left wingers.

And this will be coming to a public school near you along with other
sick, twisted, teachings designed to indoctrinate young kids into the
liberal left and ultimately the Democrat party.

Michael Savage is correct.
The left are mentally ill.
They truly are.



<https://www.wnd.com/2021/05/parents-posh-school-horrified-lessons-
teaching-young-children-touch/>

"Parents at posh school 'horrified' over lessons teaching young
children to 'touch themselves'"

"An elite New York City school that tells children they can't be
hugged "without consent" is now under heavy fire from outraged
parents over lessons reportedly teaching young kids sexual
gratification by "touching themselves."

According to the New York Post, "health and wellness" educator
Justine Ang Fonte at The Dalton School uses cartoons as a tool in her
sex-ed classes for 6-year-olds featuring small children talking about
"touching themselves" for pleasure.

"Hey, how come sometimes my penis gets big sometimes and points in
the air?" a young boy asks in the cartoon, followed by an explanation
about what an "erection" is.

"Sometimes I touch my penis because it feels good," the boys says
while nodding.

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of thousands of children

A small girl then notes: "Sometimes, when I'm in my bath or when mom
puts me to bed, I like to touch my vulva too."

Fonte claims she never uses the word "masturbation" in class, adding
her lessons teach children not to touch themselves in public.

Parents expressed their outrage to the Post, especially when the
school instructs consent for family hugs.

"Literally parents are supposed to say to their kids, 'May I hug
you?'" one parent said.


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One mother said that another parent told her, "I'm paying $50,000 to
these a**holes to tell my kid not to let her grandfather hug her when
he sees her?"

The lessons for first-graders also address gender identity, gender
assigned at birth and gender expression.

Other comments from parents who wished to remain anonymous for fear
of retaliation include:

"Kids have no less than five classes on gender identity – this is
pure indoctrination. This person should absolutely not be teaching
children. Ironically, she teaches kids about 'consent' yet she has
never gotten consent from parents about the sexually explicit, and
age inappropriate material about transgender to first graders."
"We are furious. We were horrified to learn this was shown to our
first-grade 6- and 7-year old kids without our knowledge or consent.
But it's so hard to fight back because you'll get canceled and your
child will suffer."
"I'm not against all sex education but it's not cool to keep parents
in the dark about it."
Fonte did not respond to requests for comment, but a spokesman for
Dalton indicated: "As part of Dalton's comprehensive Health
curriculum for students, a lesson on Gender & Bodies included two
evidence-based and age-appropriate videos approved for students 4
years and older. These videos align with nationally recognized
methodologies and standards. We consistently review our Health
curriculum, making sure that the content is developmentally
appropriate and, if necessary, we adapt our curriculum accordingly.
We will continue to listen carefully to parent feedback, respond
thoughtfully to community concerns, and develop lessons that are in
the best interest of our students, respect our community’s values,
and correspond with best practices.""

[Joel]

<snip>


Heh. First of all, you're referencing WND. But really, what is wrong
with telling kids that it's OK to touch themselves? Many of them are
going to do it, whether they take this class or not, but the class
could reassure them that it's normal and natural.

--
Joel Crump

[rbowman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders

In '94 it got Elders fired. Now it's perfectly okay.

[Joel]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>On 05/31/2021 08:47 AM, Joel wrote:
>> Seeman <outonthe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <https://www.wnd.com/2021/05/parents-posh-school-horrified-lessons-
>>> teaching-young-children-touch/>
>>>
>>> "Parents at posh school 'horrified' over lessons teaching young
>>> children to 'touch themselves'"
>>

>> Heh. First of all, you're referencing WND. But really, what is wrong
>> with telling kids that it's OK to touch themselves? Many of them are
>> going to do it, whether they take this class or not, but the class
>> could reassure them that it's normal and natural.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders
>
>In '94 it got Elders fired. Now it's perfectly okay.

She was fired specifically because of people just like the ones who
run and consume WND - Clinton was under too much pressure, and it was
still a primitive enough time that they succeeded in ousting her. It's
really a damn shame, an embarrassment to the country.

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

Parents are paying $50k per year for the privilage of their young
and impressionable children being taught that garbage. Their minds
are not developed enough to understand.
The left is sick.



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[rbowman]

I'll go for primitive rather than degenerate.

[RonB]

Worse than sick, Satanic. Destroying the innocence of children is one of
Satan's greatest "joys."

Schools have become Satanic cesspools.

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[Joel]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders
>>>
>>> In '94 it got Elders fired. Now it's perfectly okay.
>>
>> She was fired specifically because of people just like the ones who
>> run and consume WND - Clinton was under too much pressure, and it was
>> still a primitive enough time that they succeeded in ousting her. It's
>> really a damn shame, an embarrassment to the country.
>
>I'll go for primitive rather than degenerate.

How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?

--
Joel Crump

[Dick_Holder]

On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:35:24 -0400, Joel, typed

Sounds more like a parent's domain than a teacher's.

--
End of buffer

[Joel]

Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:

>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>
>Sounds more like a parent's domain than a teacher's.

But why does it even matter? Are we really going to cling to some
antiquated view that masturbation is immoral, or weird, or unnatural,
or any such silliness? For most sexually developed people, it's
almost a *necessity*, for God's sake. I know if I go a few days
without doing it, I feel *pain*. Physical pain. That obviously means
it's healthy to have decently regular orgasms.

--
Joel Crump

[Dick_Holder]

On Mon, 31 May 2021 15:05:36 -0400, Joel, typed

If you feel pain, loosen your grip ;)

But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
They may have their own views for _their_ children.

I think the idea is a gay or trans teacher may have unwanted influence on
the child's developement.

It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
others. That's the parents role.

--
End of buffer

[Joel]

Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:

>>>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>>>
>>>Sounds more like a parent's domain than a teacher's.
>>
>> But why does it even matter? Are we really going to cling to some
>> antiquated view that masturbation is immoral, or weird, or unnatural,
>> or any such silliness? For most sexually developed people, it's
>> almost a *necessity*, for God's sake. I know if I go a few days
>> without doing it, I feel *pain*. Physical pain. That obviously means
>> it's healthy to have decently regular orgasms.
>
>If you feel pain, loosen your grip ;)
>
>But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
>behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
>They may have their own views for _their_ children.

I could understand that to an extent, but what's the solution? Not
everyone is going to be able to homeschool or otherwise shelter their
kids that way. Maybe it really is best to just change with the
changing times - to lighten up about these awkward subjects.

>I think the idea is a gay or trans teacher may have unwanted influence on
>the child's developement.

That would only be because of something inappropriate - and I don't
have a problem holding teachers accountable for going beyond the
curriculum or what's appropriate for the child's age. A straight and
cisgender teacher could do the same thing, and it'd be just as wrong.

>It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
>others. That's the parents role.

Well, if they really want to piss in the wind, I guess that's their
right. But it won't work out well for them in the long run, when
their kids blame them for being too protective.

--
Joel Crump

[Dick_Holder]

On Mon, 31 May 2021 15:25:48 -0400, Joel, typed

> Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>>>>
>>>>Sounds more like a parent's domain than a teacher's.
>>>
>>> But why does it even matter? Are we really going to cling to some
>>> antiquated view that masturbation is immoral, or weird, or unnatural,
>>> or any such silliness? For most sexually developed people, it's
>>> almost a *necessity*, for God's sake. I know if I go a few days
>>> without doing it, I feel *pain*. Physical pain. That obviously means
>>> it's healthy to have decently regular orgasms.
>>
>>If you feel pain, loosen your grip ;)
>>
>>But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
>>behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
>>They may have their own views for _their_ children.
>
>
> I could understand that to an extent, but what's the solution? Not
> everyone is going to be able to homeschool or otherwise shelter their
> kids that way. Maybe it really is best to just change with the
> changing times - to lighten up about these awkward subjects.

Or, let's schools teach them reading, writing(typing), arithmetic,
economics, how to use credit, how to be a good employee, how to be a
good member of a society, woodworking, plumbing, different types of
lawn, how to start a business, the benefits of higher education, how
cool telescopes are, build your own antenna, what happens to a squirrel
when launched from a catapult...

They'll masterbate whether told to or not :)

>>I think the idea is a gay or trans teacher may have unwanted influence on
>>the child's developement.
>
>
> That would only be because of something inappropriate - and I don't
> have a problem holding teachers accountable for going beyond the
> curriculum or what's appropriate for the child's age. A straight and
> cisgender teacher could do the same thing, and it'd be just as wrong.

Teaching little kids to masterbate isn't necessary.

>>It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
>>others. That's the parents role.
>
>
> Well, if they really want to piss in the wind, I guess that's their
> right. But it won't work out well for them in the long run, when
> their kids blame them for being too protective.

It worked out well for me.
For my son.
It will for my grandson.

--
End of buffer

[Joel]

Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:

>>>But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
>>>behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
>>>They may have their own views for _their_ children.
>>
>> I could understand that to an extent, but what's the solution? Not
>> everyone is going to be able to homeschool or otherwise shelter their
>> kids that way. Maybe it really is best to just change with the
>> changing times - to lighten up about these awkward subjects.
>
>Or, let's schools teach them reading, writing(typing), arithmetic,
>economics, how to use credit, how to be a good employee, how to be a
>good member of a society, woodworking, plumbing, different types of
>lawn, how to start a business, the benefits of higher education, how
>cool telescopes are, build your own antenna, what happens to a squirrel
>when launched from a catapult...
>
>They'll masterbate whether told to or not :)

I don't think the idea is to teach them to or tell them to,
though - it's to reassure them that it's normal. It's just an early
component of sex ed.

>>>I think the idea is a gay or trans teacher may have unwanted influence on
>>>the child's developement.
>>
>> That would only be because of something inappropriate - and I don't
>> have a problem holding teachers accountable for going beyond the
>> curriculum or what's appropriate for the child's age. A straight and
>> cisgender teacher could do the same thing, and it'd be just as wrong.
>
>Teaching little kids to masterbate isn't necessary.

Of course, but is that really what's happening here?

>>>It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
>>>others. That's the parents role.
>>
>> Well, if they really want to piss in the wind, I guess that's their
>> right. But it won't work out well for them in the long run, when
>> their kids blame them for being too protective.
>
>It worked out well for me.
>For my son.
>It will for my grandson.

I respect you and your son's rights as parents.

--
Joel Crump

[Dick_Holder]

On Mon, 31 May 2021 16:02:52 -0400, Joel, typed

> Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
>>>>behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
>>>>They may have their own views for _their_ children.
>>>
>>> I could understand that to an extent, but what's the solution? Not
>>> everyone is going to be able to homeschool or otherwise shelter their
>>> kids that way. Maybe it really is best to just change with the
>>> changing times - to lighten up about these awkward subjects.
>>
>>Or, let's schools teach them reading, writing(typing), arithmetic,
>>economics, how to use credit, how to be a good employee, how to be a
>>good member of a society, woodworking, plumbing, different types of
>>lawn, how to start a business, the benefits of higher education, how
>>cool telescopes are, build your own antenna, what happens to a squirrel
>>when launched from a catapult...
>>
>>They'll masterbate whether told to or not :)
>
>
> I don't think the idea is to teach them to or tell them to,
> though - it's to reassure them that it's normal. It's just an early
> component of sex ed.

Not at 6 years old.

>
>>>>I think the idea is a gay or trans teacher may have unwanted influence on
>>>>the child's developement.
>>>
>>> That would only be because of something inappropriate - and I don't
>>> have a problem holding teachers accountable for going beyond the
>>> curriculum or what's appropriate for the child's age. A straight and
>>> cisgender teacher could do the same thing, and it'd be just as wrong.
>>
>>Teaching little kids to masterbate isn't necessary.
>
>
> Of course, but is that really what's happening here?

An adult telling 6 tear olds it's OK to touch yourself is teaching them
something they shouldn't be learning at that age.
That's conditioning them.

>>>>It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
>>>>others. That's the parents role.
>>>
>>> Well, if they really want to piss in the wind, I guess that's their
>>> right. But it won't work out well for them in the long run, when
>>> their kids blame them for being too protective.
>>
>>It worked out well for me.
>>For my son.
>>It will for my grandson.
>
>
> I respect you and your son's rights as parents.

Thank you.

--
End of buffer

[RonB]

On 2021-05-31, Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2021 15:25:48 -0400, Joel, typed
>> Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>>>>>
>>>>>Sounds more like a parent's domain than a teacher's.
>>>>
>>>> But why does it even matter? Are we really going to cling to some
>>>> antiquated view that masturbation is immoral, or weird, or unnatural,
>>>> or any such silliness? For most sexually developed people, it's
>>>> almost a *necessity*, for God's sake. I know if I go a few days
>>>> without doing it, I feel *pain*. Physical pain. That obviously means
>>>> it's healthy to have decently regular orgasms.
>>>
>>>If you feel pain, loosen your grip ;)
>>>
>>>But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
>>>behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
>>>They may have their own views for _their_ children.
>>
>>
>> I could understand that to an extent, but what's the solution? Not
>> everyone is going to be able to homeschool or otherwise shelter their
>> kids that way. Maybe it really is best to just change with the
>> changing times - to lighten up about these awkward subjects.

"Maybe" it would be best if schools stuck to teaching kids reading, writing,
arithmetic, geography, literature, history (real history, not made-up
bullshit) and left the moral issues to the parents. Our kids graduate
totally ignorant of the world they live in (most can't even find their own
country on a map) — but they leave questioning whether they're male or
female. That's called brainwashing, not teaching.

But why go on? Any parent who sends their children to the cesspools called
public schools or colleges now might as well just give up on them. Kiss your
kids goodbye and get back brainwashed drones. There should be a law against
this kind of abuse. There *is* a moral law against it — and, ultimately,
parents who abandon their children to these cesspools will pay for their
crime.

> Or, let's schools teach them reading, writing(typing), arithmetic,
> economics, how to use credit, how to be a good employee, how to be a
> good member of a society, woodworking, plumbing, different types of
> lawn, how to start a business, the benefits of higher education, how
> cool telescopes are, build your own antenna, what happens to a squirrel
> when launched from a catapult...
>
> They'll masterbate whether told to or not :)
>
>
>>>I think the idea is a gay or trans teacher may have unwanted influence on
>>>the child's developement.
>>
>>
>> That would only be because of something inappropriate - and I don't
>> have a problem holding teachers accountable for going beyond the
>> curriculum or what's appropriate for the child's age. A straight and
>> cisgender teacher could do the same thing, and it'd be just as wrong.
>
> Teaching little kids to masterbate isn't necessary.
>
>>>It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
>>>others. That's the parents role.
>>
>>
>> Well, if they really want to piss in the wind, I guess that's their
>> right. But it won't work out well for them in the long run, when
>> their kids blame them for being too protective.
>
> It worked out well for me.
> For my son.
> It will for my grandson.
>


--

[RonB]

On 2021-05-31, Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:

Exactly.

>>>>>It's not for you, or me for that matter, to decide what's antiquated for
>>>>>others. That's the parents role.
>>>>
>>>> Well, if they really want to piss in the wind, I guess that's their
>>>> right. But it won't work out well for them in the long run, when
>>>> their kids blame them for being too protective.
>>>
>>>It worked out well for me.
>>>For my son.
>>>It will for my grandson.
>>
>>
>> I respect you and your son's rights as parents.
>
> Thank you.
>


--

[Rabid Roach]

I honestly think that it would be safer, for my mental health, to just
filter Communists cretins from gmail.com by default. Of course he doesn't
see anything wrong with teaching kids to touch themselves. In a few
years, he won't see a problem with the media and academia advocating for
kids to try having relationships with pedophiles. Eventually, he will
think we're bigots for thinking that teachers shouldn't date their 5 year-
old students.

I don't know what scrambled their brains but I know that I don't want to
have anything to do with them, much less listen to anything they have to
say.



--
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Free Software Foundation member (Rabid)
openSUSE Tumbleweed on MSI GT72 2QD

[Joel]

Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:

>>>They'll masterbate whether told to or not :)
>>
>> I don't think the idea is to teach them to or tell them to,
>> though - it's to reassure them that it's normal. It's just an early
>> component of sex ed.
>
>Not at 6 years old.

But why not, if it's a common experience kids that age have? You
wouldn't teach full sex ed at that age, but there are some subjects
that might be relevant then.

>>>Teaching little kids to masterbate isn't necessary.
>>
>> Of course, but is that really what's happening here?
>
>An adult telling 6 tear olds it's OK to touch yourself is teaching them
>something they shouldn't be learning at that age.
>That's conditioning them.

I don't know that that's really the case. If there is evidence that
children that age have impulses to touch their genitals, then we
should act on that in guiding them to understand it at the level which
is appropriate to their age.

--
Joel Crump

[Joel]

RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2021-05-31, Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 15:25:48 -0400, Joel, typed
>>> Dick_Holder <dick_...@man.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>But a lot of people prefer strangers not teach their offspring sexual
>>>>behaviour, orientation, or purpose.
>>>>They may have their own views for _their_ children.
>>>
>>> I could understand that to an extent, but what's the solution? Not
>>> everyone is going to be able to homeschool or otherwise shelter their
>>> kids that way. Maybe it really is best to just change with the
>>> changing times - to lighten up about these awkward subjects.
>
>"Maybe" it would be best if schools stuck to teaching kids reading, writing,
>arithmetic, geography, literature, history (real history, not made-up
>bullshit) and left the moral issues to the parents. Our kids graduate
>totally ignorant of the world they live in (most can't even find their own
>country on a map) — but they leave questioning whether they're male or
>female. That's called brainwashing, not teaching.
>
>But why go on? Any parent who sends their children to the cesspools called
>public schools or colleges now might as well just give up on them. Kiss your
>kids goodbye and get back brainwashed drones. There should be a law against
>this kind of abuse. There *is* a moral law against it — and, ultimately,
>parents who abandon their children to these cesspools will pay for their
>crime.

I see the problem. You're set in your ways, and frankly misinformed.
The present seems like a dystopia to you. Well, you'll like it more
in your next lifetime. :)

--
Joel Crump

[Joel]

Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:

>I honestly think that it would be safer, for my mental health, to just
>filter Communists cretins from gmail.com by default.

Um, the *email* provider one uses makes one a *communist*? Did I
misunderstand you?

> Of course he doesn't
>see anything wrong with teaching kids to touch themselves. In a few
>years, he won't see a problem with the media and academia advocating for
>kids to try having relationships with pedophiles. Eventually, he will
>think we're bigots for thinking that teachers shouldn't date their 5 year-
>old students.

That's totally ridiculous.

>I don't know what scrambled their brains but I know that I don't want to
>have anything to do with them, much less listen to anything they have to
>say.

Your decision.

--
Joel Crump

[rbowman]

Are you familiar with the term 'onanism'. Do you know who Onan was?

I don't believe masturbation is degenerate; teaching it to young
children is, along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.

[Joel]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

>>> I'll go for primitive rather than degenerate.
>>
>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>
>Are you familiar with the term 'onanism'. Do you know who Onan was?

Yeah. He pulled out of his late brother's wife's pussy. That isn't
in any way related to masturbation.

>I don't believe masturbation is degenerate; teaching it to young
>children is, along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.

I don't see anyone doing those things.

--
Joel Crump

[Snit]

On May 31, 2021 at 8:16:36 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ihln4l...@mid.individual.net>:

Who is teaching it to anyone? What are you talking about?


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[Snit]

On May 31, 2021 at 8:34:45 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<sjabbgp10oo0nfpfs...@4ax.com>:

What would make him even consider such a thing?

[rbowman]

On 05/31/2021 10:34 PM, Snit wrote:
> On May 31, 2021 at 8:16:36 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ihln4l...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 05/31/2021 12:35 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In '94 it got Elders fired. Now it's perfectly okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> She was fired specifically because of people just like the ones who
>>>>> run and consume WND - Clinton was under too much pressure, and it was
>>>>> still a primitive enough time that they succeeded in ousting her. It's
>>>>> really a damn shame, an embarrassment to the country.
>>>>
>>>> I'll go for primitive rather than degenerate.
>>>
>>>
>>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>>>
>>
>> Are you familiar with the term 'onanism'. Do you know who Onan was?
>>
>> I don't believe masturbation is degenerate; teaching it to young
>> children is, along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.
>
> Who is teaching it to anyone? What are you talking about?
>
>

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/31/parents-of-1st-graders-at-new-york-city-elite-school-enraged-over-masturbation-sex-ed-video/

[Snit]

On May 31, 2021 at 10:08:56 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ihltn9...@mid.individual.net>:

Seems absurd and there were lots of complaints and it was not used again.

In short: the claim is rather absurd to make as a generalized statement. And
what about sensationalizing drag queens? I have no issue with them being
represented... if that is what you mean. But who knows... heck, you went to
Breitbart as a source (The Onion is more reliable).

[Joel]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 31, 2021 at 8:34:45 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
><sjabbgp10oo0nfpfs...@4ax.com>:
>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't believe masturbation is degenerate; teaching it to young
>>> children is, along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.
>>
>> I don't see anyone doing those things.
>
>What would make him even consider such a thing?

I don't know, but the report in the OP didn't really say the students
were being taught how to masturbate, only that it's OK to touch
oneself.

--
Joel Crump

[DFS]

On 5/31/2021 9:11 AM, Seeman wrote:

> This one is off the charts even for the sick, mentally ill, radical
> left wingers.
>
> And this will be coming to a public school near you along with other
> sick, twisted, teachings designed to indoctrinate young kids into the
> liberal left and ultimately the Democrat party.
>
> Michael Savage is correct.
> The left are mentally ill.
> They truly are.

ie Richard Stallman. That revolting pig thinks secondary schools (in
the US that's typically grades 9-12, age 14+) should hire sex teachers
to fuck students during the school day:


"Every secondary school should aim for all of its graduates to be
fully capable in sexuality; none should be excluded from participation
in sex due to lack of proper experience. Therefore, the school should
have several sex teachers, adults with whom students can learn to be
comfortable with sex and confident in pleasing their lovers. They would
also learn good habits for avoidance of disease and pregnancy."
https://stallman.org/archives/2014-sep-dec.html#14_November_2014_%28Teacher_prosecuted_for_sex_with_student%29


This is the same warped individual that believes users should be able to
obtain, modify and freely give away the source code of the programs they
use.


Jail Stallman, and just say no to the GPL.

[rbowman]

On 06/01/2021 12:51 AM, Snit wrote:
> On May 31, 2021 at 10:08:56 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
> <ihltn9...@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 05/31/2021 10:34 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On May 31, 2021 at 8:16:36 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>>> <ihln4l...@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 05/31/2021 12:35 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In '94 it got Elders fired. Now it's perfectly okay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She was fired specifically because of people just like the ones who
>>>>>>> run and consume WND - Clinton was under too much pressure, and it was
>>>>>>> still a primitive enough time that they succeeded in ousting her. It's
>>>>>>> really a damn shame, an embarrassment to the country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll go for primitive rather than degenerate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you familiar with the term 'onanism'. Do you know who Onan was?
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe masturbation is degenerate; teaching it to young
>>>> children is, along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.
>>>
>>> Who is teaching it to anyone? What are you talking about?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/31/parents-of-1st-graders-at-new-york-city-elite-school-enraged-over-masturbation-sex-ed-video/
>
> Seems absurd and there were lots of complaints and it was not used again.

And a bunch of 5 year old kids are going to unsee it?

>
> In short: the claim is rather absurd to make as a generalized statement. And
> what about sensationalizing drag queens? I have no issue with them being
> represented... if that is what you mean. But who knows... heck, you went to
> Breitbart as a source (The Onion is more reliable
>

'along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.'

Nice editing job.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5228857/A-10-year-old-drag-queen-founded-drag-club-kids.html

[Joel]

DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:

>ie Richard Stallman. That revolting pig thinks secondary schools (in
>the US that's typically grades 9-12, age 14+) should hire sex teachers
>to fuck students during the school day:
>
>
>"Every secondary school should aim for all of its graduates to be
>fully capable in sexuality; none should be excluded from participation
>in sex due to lack of proper experience. Therefore, the school should
>have several sex teachers, adults with whom students can learn to be
>comfortable with sex and confident in pleasing their lovers. They would
>also learn good habits for avoidance of disease and pregnancy."
>https://stallman.org/archives/2014-sep-dec.html#14_November_2014_%28Teacher_prosecuted_for_sex_with_student%29

He has some weird ideas, yeah. But his contribution to the world of
computing is not something I can dismiss.

>This is the same warped individual that believes users should be able to
>obtain, modify and freely give away the source code of the programs they
>use.
>
>
>Jail Stallman, and just say no to the GPL.

What's wrong with the GPL? No one's forced to use it.

--
Joel Crump

[DFS]

On 6/1/2021 9:53 AM, rbowman wrote:


> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5228857/A-10-year-old-drag-queen-founded-drag-club-kids.html


So you're from Brooklyn...

[DFS]

On 6/1/2021 10:00 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> ie Richard Stallman. That revolting pig thinks secondary schools (in
>> the US that's typically grades 9-12, age 14+) should hire sex teachers
>> to fuck students during the school day:
>>
>>
>> "Every secondary school should aim for all of its graduates to be
>> fully capable in sexuality; none should be excluded from participation
>> in sex due to lack of proper experience. Therefore, the school should
>> have several sex teachers, adults with whom students can learn to be
>> comfortable with sex and confident in pleasing their lovers. They would
>> also learn good habits for avoidance of disease and pregnancy."
>> https://stallman.org/archives/2014-sep-dec.html#14_November_2014_%28Teacher_prosecuted_for_sex_with_student%29
>
>
> He has some weird ideas, yeah.

You mean disgusting and perverted.

> But his contribution to the world of
> computing is not something I can dismiss.

He just got lucky that the Linux kernel came along when it did.

>> This is the same warped individual that believes users should be able to
>> obtain, modify and freely give away the source code of the programs they
>> use.
>>
>>
>> Jail Stallman, and just say no to the GPL.
>
>
> What's wrong with the GPL?

Mainly

Part 3 of "TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION"
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.en.html

Parts 5 and 6
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

> No one's forced to use it.

wtf? No one's forced to blow donkeys either. Both are despicable.



public domain > MIT > BSD > GPL, if you're going to give your code away.

[Joel]

DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:

>>> ie Richard Stallman. That revolting pig thinks secondary schools (in
>>> the US that's typically grades 9-12, age 14+) should hire sex teachers
>>> to fuck students during the school day:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Every secondary school should aim for all of its graduates to be
>>> fully capable in sexuality; none should be excluded from participation
>>> in sex due to lack of proper experience. Therefore, the school should
>>> have several sex teachers, adults with whom students can learn to be
>>> comfortable with sex and confident in pleasing their lovers. They would
>>> also learn good habits for avoidance of disease and pregnancy."
>>> https://stallman.org/archives/2014-sep-dec.html#14_November_2014_%28Teacher_prosecuted_for_sex_with_student%29
>>
>> He has some weird ideas, yeah.
>
>You mean disgusting and perverted.

I don't agree with him on that, but he's allowed to have a weird
opinion.

>> But his contribution to the world of
>> computing is not something I can dismiss.
>
>He just got lucky that the Linux kernel came along when it did.

And Torvalds was lucky that his kernel could be put into use along
with GNU - it goes both ways.

>>> This is the same warped individual that believes users should be able to
>>> obtain, modify and freely give away the source code of the programs they
>>> use.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jail Stallman, and just say no to the GPL.
>>
>> What's wrong with the GPL?
>
>Mainly
>
>Part 3 of "TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION"
>https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.en.html
>
>Parts 5 and 6
>https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

I don't really see a problem. You don't have to use anyone's code
that is released under the GPL, if you don't like it.

> > No one's forced to use it.
>
>wtf? No one's forced to blow donkeys either. Both are despicable.
>
>
>
>public domain > MIT > BSD > GPL, if you're going to give your code away.

That's one opinion.

--
Joel Crump

[Rabid Roach]

I honestly can't imagine how he would defend that proposition or even how
he'd be able to find a candidate to fill such a position.

[Rabid Roach]

They felt the same kind of irreversible trauma we experience whenever we
accidentally read a Snit post.

>> In short: the claim is rather absurd to make as a generalized
>> statement. And what about sensationalizing drag queens? I have no issue
>> with them being represented... if that is what you mean. But who
>> knows... heck, you went to Breitbart as a source (The Onion is more
>> reliable

Snit still trying to discard Breitbart as a source when it is his
sources, like the Washington Post and the New York Times, which are
constantly being forced to issue retractions and corrections. Heck, both
of them changed their mind about the Wuhan laboratory origin for the Kung
Flu just a few days ago. In reality, the New York Times, CNN and the
Washington Post are less reliable as source than the Babylon Bee is.
They're not intentionally hilarious either.

[Snit]

Real news sources offer retractions.

Breitbart is not a news site.

[RonB]

"Snit" is a just a drone who regurgitates whatever vomit is spewed from the
Communist propaganda mill (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, etc.).
Thinking for himself scares the crap out of him.

[RonB]

On 2021-06-01, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:

So DFS reads the crap Stallman spews about sex education and then somehow
pivots to free software — like the first invalidates the latter? And like
the free software is the greater crime? Two different things going on here,
DuFuS. Free software is not immoral, forcing sex education on kids is.
Figure it out. Get back to me when you have a clue.

[Joel]

RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Snit" is a just a drone who regurgitates whatever vomit is spewed from the
>Communist propaganda mill (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, etc.).
>Thinking for himself scares the crap out of him.

The sheer irony of Ron "ZeroHedge" B making such an incorrect claim
about Snit is not lost on me ...

--
Joel Crump

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 9:39:45 AM MST, "RonB" wrote <s95nsh$ev7$1...@dont-email.me>:

>>>> In short: the claim is rather absurd to make as a generalized
>>>> statement. And what about sensationalizing drag queens? I have no issue
>>>> with them being represented... if that is what you mean. But who
>>>> knows... heck, you went to Breitbart as a source (The Onion is more
>>>> reliable
>>
>> Snit still trying to discard Breitbart as a source when it is his
>> sources, like the Washington Post and the New York Times, which are
>> constantly being forced to issue retractions and corrections. Heck, both
>> of them changed their mind about the Wuhan laboratory origin for the Kung
>> Flu just a few days ago. In reality, the New York Times, CNN and the
>> Washington Post are less reliable as source than the Babylon Bee is.
>> They're not intentionally hilarious either.
>
> "Snit" is a just a drone who regurgitates whatever vomit is spewed from the
> Communist propaganda mill (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, etc.).
> Thinking for himself scares the crap out of him.

What an interesting way to say you cannot refute what I say. As far as
thinking for myself, I tend to go with what peer review research says on
topics where that is relevant... you might want to try it. :)

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 9:47:00 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<n2pcbgtn407jfnome...@4ax.com>:

RonB thinks that it is better to mindlessly follow conspiracy theory sites and
other unsupported nonsense than to be educated and learn based on the
scientific method and peer review articles, and those who base their views
largely on that.

And he takes it as a BAD thing when sources admit when they have made errors.

[Snit]

Good to know you do not join those who condemn, say, BLM when "bad" things are
found out about those who started the movement.

For once we agree. Good to see.

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 6:53:50 AM MST, "rbowman" wrote
<ihmsff...@mid.individual.net>:

> On 06/01/2021 12:51 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On May 31, 2021 at 10:08:56 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>> <ihltn9...@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 05/31/2021 10:34 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On May 31, 2021 at 8:16:36 PM MST, "rbowman" wrote
>>>> <ihln4l...@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/31/2021 12:35 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>>>> rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In '94 it got Elders fired. Now it's perfectly okay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She was fired specifically because of people just like the ones who
>>>>>>>> run and consume WND - Clinton was under too much pressure, and it was
>>>>>>>> still a primitive enough time that they succeeded in ousting her. It's
>>>>>>>> really a damn shame, an embarrassment to the country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll go for primitive rather than degenerate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How in God's holy name is masturbation "degenerate"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you familiar with the term 'onanism'. Do you know who Onan was?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't believe masturbation is degenerate; teaching it to young
>>>>> children is, along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.
>>>>
>>>> Who is teaching it to anyone? What are you talking about?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/31/parents-of-1st-graders-at-new-york-city-elite-school-enraged-over-masturbation-sex-ed-video/
>>
>> Seems absurd and there were lots of complaints and it was not used again.
>
>
> And a bunch of 5 year old kids are going to unsee it?

Not sure I follow. What do you mean by "unseeing" it?

Also: given that this is one example -- and an example from a *private school*
no less -- how is this indicative of what is in general going on in *public
schools*?

Sounds like the topic here has jumped a lot and you want me to defend
something I do not agree with even though it is not relevant to the claim of
what public schools around the nation are doing.

Weird... almost like you cannot support your initial claim at all. :)

>> In short: the claim is rather absurd to make as a generalized statement. And
>> what about sensationalizing drag queens? I have no issue with them being
>> represented... if that is what you mean. But who knows... heck, you went to
>> Breitbart as a source (The Onion is more reliable
>
> 'along with sensationalizing 10 year old drag queens.'
>
> Nice editing job.
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5228857/A-10-year-old-drag-queen-founded-drag-club-kids.html

What does this have to do with schools? And do you think this is worse than
beauty pageants and the like for kids?

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 6:27:04 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<bpccbgdc59sjga0ll...@4ax.com>:

Good point. So:

1) Not teaching kids to masturbate.
2) Not representative of public schools in general.
3) Not a public school at all, but a private school.
4) Nothing saying it was a liberal school.

[Joel]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> [...] the report in the OP didn't really say the students

>> were being taught how to masturbate, only that it's OK to touch
>> oneself.
>
>Good point. So:
>
>1) Not teaching kids to masturbate.
>2) Not representative of public schools in general.
>3) Not a public school at all, but a private school.
>4) Nothing saying it was a liberal school.

It seems all of that is correct, yes.

--
Joel Crump

[chrisv]

Joel wrote:

> RonB wrote:
>>
>>"Snit" is a just a drone who regurgitates whatever vomit is spewed from the
>>Communist propaganda mill (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, etc.).
>>Thinking for himself scares the crap out of him.
>
>The sheer irony of Ron "ZeroHedge" B making such an incorrect claim
>about Snit is not lost on me ...

It's RonB's favorite lie. He applies to anyone who disagrees with his
paranoid kookery.

--
"And what makes you think these weren't leftists who did this to
Pelosi's house?" - kook RonB

[chrisv]

Joel wrote:

>That's one opinion.

You're going to let that asshole troll you, over this? He's already
had his ass handed to him, on this issue, *countless* times.

--
"Yeah, I would say it's likely [that President Biden is a 'Pedo']." -
massively disrespectful right-wing kook/asshole RonB

[Joel]

chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>"Snit" is a just a drone who regurgitates whatever vomit is spewed from the
>>>Communist propaganda mill (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, etc.).
>>>Thinking for himself scares the crap out of him.
>>
>>The sheer irony of Ron "ZeroHedge" B making such an incorrect claim
>>about Snit is not lost on me ...
>
>It's RonB's favorite lie. He applies to anyone who disagrees with his
>paranoid kookery.

He's an interesting case, because he's clearly not a stupid person in
general, I've really gotten a lot out of reading his on-topic posts
about how he uses Linux - but he hides intellectually from anything
that challenges his worldview, he has to claim that we're brainwashed
by the media etc. etc., even though it's clear that he's the one who
is by the right-wing media. Strange stuff.

--
Joel Crump

[Joel]

chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>That's one opinion.
>
>You're going to let that asshole troll you, over this? He's already
>had his ass handed to him, on this issue, *countless* times.

That is certainly true. I mean, if I were a developer in my free
time, I'd very likely give away the source code, without any
qualifications, because I wouldn't really care what others do
with it - but it's plainly obvious that others will want to protect
their right as its originator, to prevent others from profiting from
it, when it was intended to be free. The GPL provides that
protection, and DFS damn well knows it.

--
Joel Crump

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 10:41:43 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<27scbgpiq3e8ns01o...@4ax.com>:

Even on topics such as Linux he will make some strange and easily disprovable
claims... or at least used to.

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 10:37:50 AM MST, "chrisv" wrote
<i0scbgpt9jvcno8ij...@4ax.com>:

> Joel wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> "Snit" is a just a drone who regurgitates whatever vomit is spewed from the
>>> Communist propaganda mill (NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, etc.).
>>> Thinking for himself scares the crap out of him.
>>
>> The sheer irony of Ron "ZeroHedge" B making such an incorrect claim
>> about Snit is not lost on me ...
>
> It's RonB's favorite lie. He applies to anyone who disagrees with his
> paranoid kookery.

He pretends others do not think for themselves as he repeats conspiracy
theories created by others.

It is... odd.

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 10:19:08 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<dqqcbg5n5k0pllfpo...@4ax.com>:

Other than that, though, he is exactly correct. :)

[Joel]

Snit <brock.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> He's [RonB is] an interesting case, because he's clearly not a stupid person in

>> general, I've really gotten a lot out of reading his on-topic posts
>> about how he uses Linux - but he hides intellectually from anything
>> that challenges his worldview, he has to claim that we're brainwashed
>> by the media etc. etc., even though it's clear that he's the one who
>> is by the right-wing media. Strange stuff.
>
>Even on topics such as Linux he will make some strange and easily disprovable
>claims... or at least used to.

When I first came to COLA in 2009-2010, he and others would make
outlandish claims about Windows, but I haven't seen that since my
return in 2019. I have appreciated RonB's on-topic posts, in the
recent years.

--
Joel Crump

[Rabid Roach]

The only thing the Prescott Parasite has ever thought about is
screencasting. Just the word gives him a powerful orgasm.

[pothead]

I'm not really sure what screencasting is but from my perspective
the Prescott Parasite focus is on where his next government handout is
coming from.
And if I believed for a moment that he truly deserved it I would
support him but the truth is the loser is lazy a grifter who along with
his wife is quite adept at scamming the system. This is why he is in
favor of illegal immigrants crossing the border in droves. He knows it
will overwhelm the system and the chances of him getting caught grow
slimmer.

Mexicans are one thing.
Radical Muslims mixing in with the Mexicans are a completely different
situation, especially for an effeminate "male" like snit.

When they attack his trailer, rape his kids and cat (his wife is far
too ugly) and then execute him for being homosexual, things will
escalate.

Muslims simply do not tolerate girly men.
Hell, aside from having a vagina, they barely tolerate women.

Snit is too ignorant to understand this.

And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
them are LBGTQ.

It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.


It will happen.
And it's not going to be long before it does.

--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024
Lifetime Member of "The Prescott Parasite Eradication Team"
Ask snit how he pissed on his cat.
All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html

[Joel]

pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:

>I'm not really sure what screencasting is but from my perspective
>the Prescott Parasite focus is on where his next government handout is
>coming from.
>And if I believed for a moment that he truly deserved it I would
>support him but the truth is the loser is lazy a grifter who along with
>his wife is quite adept at scamming the system. This is why he is in
>favor of illegal immigrants crossing the border in droves. He knows it
>will overwhelm the system and the chances of him getting caught grow
>slimmer.
>
>Mexicans are one thing.
>Radical Muslims mixing in with the Mexicans are a completely different
>situation, especially for an effeminate "male" like snit.
>
>When they attack his trailer, rape his kids and cat (his wife is far
>too ugly) and then execute him for being homosexual, things will
>escalate.
>
>Muslims simply do not tolerate girly men.
>Hell, aside from having a vagina, they barely tolerate women.

Are you smoking meth?

>Snit is too ignorant to understand this.
>
>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>them are LBGTQ.
>
>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.

No, it's not hypocrisy, it's a recognition that we don't get to
dictate to other countries what they should do - we'd all like for
less liberal Muslim-majority countries to change, but it's not going
to happen in an instant, we have to work toward that.

>It will happen.
>And it's not going to be long before it does.

Seems paranoid, to me.

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

Stallman is really fucked in the head. Having him as a spokesman for
the concept of free software is like having Jeffery Dahmer as spokesman
for a "Easting Meat Is Healthy" campaign.

I happen to like the FOSS model however what I find disturbing is how
mega companies are able to capitalize on the works of people who donate
their time and in effect make not little amounts of money but huge
profits.

I think that is wrong.
Of course those who disagree with me will say those companies give back
to the community and everyone benefits, which I suppose is somewhat
true but still I would like to see these unseen heroes get some direct
compensation.

Maybe something like if you use this software it's free unless you make
xxxyyy amount of money and then you need to kick some back to the
developers.

I know some shareware software uses that model.
It's all honor system but seems to work rather well.

Just a thought.

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>them are LBGTQ.
>
>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.

Stop lying. It's not "hypocrisy" to not attack another religion's
beliefs, even when they may be repugnant to us.

[pothead]

I read the article and it is specifically mentioned that the "WORD"
masturbate was not used in class. But it's the same thing.

It's not YET representative of public schools in general.
True statement, but the current movements are pushing stuff like this
in schools, library programs (queer, drag queen story telling etc)

It is a private school.
True statement.

It's a "hoity toity" ultra expensive school on the upper west-side of
NYC. Trust me, it's ultra liberal and so are the people who send their
kids there.
NYC and especially Manhattan is like 80 percent plus Democrat liberal
which is precisely why the city is turning to shit with crime
approaching that of Chicago, another liberal run city.


My problem with this is the age of the students.

If this was a teenage sex education class I wouldn't really have a
problem with it.
But 6yo is far too young to comprehend this.

Why not just generalize it like "you may have thoughts and do some
things that might make your body feel good. You should talk to your
parents if you feel confused" or something like that.

Kids have been playing doctor probably since the caveman days but
making it formal education just confuses things and might lead to more
advanced fooling around simply because if the adults say it's fine it
must be.

It's complex and with the Internet it's no longer copping a feel and
playing spin the bottle.

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>I happen to like the FOSS model however what I find disturbing is how
>mega companies are able to capitalize on the works of people who donate
>their time and in effect make not little amounts of money but huge
>profits.
>
>I think that is wrong.

Then you're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It
benefits us all, with increased quality and reduced prices.

Those companies also contribute code. Thanks to the GPL, everyone can
share code, secure in the knowledge that some "mega company" cannot
wrest control of it.

FOSS does not stop were commercial interests start.

--
"The fact that companies use FOSS doesn't mean that it is compatible
with capitalism." - "Slimer", lying shamelessly

[Rabid Roach]

I don't think that he's worried about getting caught, to be honest. I
truly believe that he thinks that being in favour of parasites bigger
than him coming in to live off of the American taxpayer makes him some
sort of a virtuous person. He doesn't mind that the future of his country
is being destroyed with each additional illegal because letting these
people in and watching them lower the salaries of legal Americans as well
as take over homes which could have been purchased or rented by families
who are actually supposed to be here, to him, makes him a good person.

> Mexicans are one thing.
> Radical Muslims mixing in with the Mexicans are a completely different
> situation, especially for an effeminate "male" like snit.

The Mexicans are generally family-oriented people who are actually
looking for a better life though going about it by breaking the rules.
Most of them will be productive and will do a good job raising their
children to be law-abiding and respectful. However, with them come the
people from MS13 who will gladly rape Michael Glasser with the end of a
broomstick before shooting him in the head and the Muslims, as you
mention. There are also Haitians who are allergic to work and who migrate
the moment they are told to do so (the Haitians living in the United
States after the earthquake in Haiti who migrate to Canada once Trump won
the presidency are proof of that).

> When they attack his trailer, rape his kids and cat (his wife is far too
> ugly) and then execute him for being homosexual, things will escalate.
>
> Muslims simply do not tolerate girly men.
> Hell, aside from having a vagina, they barely tolerate women.
>
> Snit is too ignorant to understand this.

His imaginary Muslim friends are nice to him so the real ones are likely
to be just as nice.

> And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
> that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
> Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
> them are LBGTQ.
>
> It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>
>
> It will happen.
> And it's not going to be long before it does.

Lucky for us, Michael Glasser can't afford a gun and even if he could,
his wrist is too limp to hold one.

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm not really sure what screencasting is but from my perspective
>>the Prescott Parasite focus is on where his next government handout is
>>coming from.
>>And if I believed for a moment that he truly deserved it I would
>>support him but the truth is the loser is lazy a grifter who along with
>>his wife is quite adept at scamming the system. This is why he is in
>>favor of illegal immigrants crossing the border in droves. He knows it
>>will overwhelm the system and the chances of him getting caught grow
>>slimmer.
>>
>>Mexicans are one thing.
>>Radical Muslims mixing in with the Mexicans are a completely different
>>situation, especially for an effeminate "male" like snit.
>>
>>When they attack his trailer, rape his kids and cat (his wife is far
>>too ugly) and then execute him for being homosexual, things will
>>escalate.
>>
>>Muslims simply do not tolerate girly men.
>>Hell, aside from having a vagina, they barely tolerate women.
>
>
> Are you smoking meth?

I don't drink or use drugs.
Not everyone is like you and snit.

You might want to take a look at Muslim countries and the Koran and see
what they think of homosexuals and genetic women as well.

>
>>Snit is too ignorant to understand this.
>>
>>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>>them are LBGTQ.
>>
>>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>
>
> No, it's not hypocrisy, it's a recognition that we don't get to
> dictate to other countries what they should do - we'd all like for
> less liberal Muslim-majority countries to change, but it's not going
> to happen in an instant, we have to work toward that.

Except when it comes to nation building and support of those countries
while ignoring stuff the left screams about like anti LBGTQ bias.

You need to educate yourself.

People like snit would be tossed off the roof of the tallest structure
in town.
It's a fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/isis-hurls-gay-men-
buildings-stones-them-analysts-n305171

You and snit had better watch your backs.

>
>>It will happen.
>>And it's not going to be long before it does.
>
>
> Seems paranoid, to me.

It's a fact.
They are breeding like rabbits.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-
muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

[pothead]

But it's ok to attack their countries in the name of nation building.
More hypocrisy.
Too see leftist liberal scum like those shebeasts on The View
supporting Muslims yet ignoring the fact that they themselves would be
persecuted in those countries just because they were women shows the
true hypocrisy of the left.

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> pothead wrote:
>
>>I happen to like the FOSS model however what I find disturbing is how
>>mega companies are able to capitalize on the works of people who donate
>>their time and in effect make not little amounts of money but huge
>>profits.
>>
>>I think that is wrong.
>
> Then you're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It
> benefits us all, with increased quality and reduced prices.
>
> Those companies also contribute code. Thanks to the GPL, everyone can
> share code, secure in the knowledge that some "mega company" cannot
> wrest control of it.
>
> FOSS does not stop were commercial interests start.

You would have a different outlook if you watched say Google making
millions off of your program while you get nothing but a mention in
some description file that nobody actually reads.

[Snit]

He’s looking for attention in unhealthy ways.

[pothead]

You might be right.
People like snit who are arrogant and believe the government owes them
entitlements and support are the first in line to to want to see USA
brought down to a 3rd world nation status.

They are the true globalists and ironically they support the same
ideology that the ultra rich, who they despise, like Bill Gates support.

>> Mexicans are one thing.
>> Radical Muslims mixing in with the Mexicans are a completely different
>> situation, especially for an effeminate "male" like snit.
>
> The Mexicans are generally family-oriented people who are actually
> looking for a better life though going about it by breaking the rules.
> Most of them will be productive and will do a good job raising their
> children to be law-abiding and respectful. However, with them come the
> people from MS13 who will gladly rape Michael Glasser with the end of a
> broomstick before shooting him in the head and the Muslims, as you
> mention. There are also Haitians who are allergic to work and who migrate
> the moment they are told to do so (the Haitians living in the United
> States after the earthquake in Haiti who migrate to Canada once Trump won
> the presidency are proof of that).

True statement.
Where I live there is a lot of farm and hospitality business and
Mexicans work there. They are hard working people, often very religious
and family oriented.
And so are most Muslims for that matter.
Glasser would probably enjoy being raped by a broomstick.
There are literally zero Haitians where I live so I can't say.

>> When they attack his trailer, rape his kids and cat (his wife is far too
>> ugly) and then execute him for being homosexual, things will escalate.
>>
>> Muslims simply do not tolerate girly men.
>> Hell, aside from having a vagina, they barely tolerate women.
>>
>> Snit is too ignorant to understand this.
>
> His imaginary Muslim friends are nice to him so the real ones are likely
> to be just as nice.

Yea.
Snit has friends for all occasions.

>> And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>> that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>> Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>> them are LBGTQ.
>>
>> It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>>
>>
>> It will happen.
>> And it's not going to be long before it does.
>
> Lucky for us, Michael Glasser can't afford a gun and even if he could,
> his wrist is too limp to hold one.

ROTFLMAO!

Like Don Knotts "The Shakiest Gun In The West"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063591/

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>>>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>>>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>>>them are LBGTQ.
>>>
>>>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>>
>> Stop lying. It's not "hypocrisy" to not attack another religion's
>> beliefs, even when they may be repugnant to us.
>
>But it's ok to attack their countries in the name of nation building.

When did the "liberal media, Hollywood, etc" say that?

>More hypocrisy.

More *lies* from a right winger.

> (snip more lies)

GD, you are a shitty liar. Like so many right-wingers. Making it up
as you go along.

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>>I happen to like the FOSS model however what I find disturbing is how
>>>mega companies are able to capitalize on the works of people who donate
>>>their time and in effect make not little amounts of money but huge
>>>profits.
>>>
>>>I think that is wrong.
>>
>> Then you're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It
>> benefits us all, with increased quality and reduced prices.
>>
>> Those companies also contribute code. Thanks to the GPL, everyone can
>> share code, secure in the knowledge that some "mega company" cannot
>> wrest control of it.
>>
>> FOSS does not stop were commercial interests start.
>
>You would have a different outlook if you watched say Google making
>millions off of your program while you get nothing but a mention in
>some description file that nobody actually reads.

No I wouldn't, because I'm not an idiot. I understand the purpose of
FOSS.

[-hh]

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 4:08:06 PM UTC-4, pothead wrote:
> On 2021-06-01, Rabid Roach <ra...@roa.ch> wrote:

> > ...

> > The Mexicans are generally family-oriented people who are actually
> > looking for a better life though going about it by breaking the rules.

Where said "rules" have been deliberately rigged against them, via
Country Quotas:

[Category F1] "Children over 21 years of age of U.S. citizens [from Mexico
have a] waiting time for a visa number to be available is 22 years."

<https://citizenpath.com/visa-wait-times/>

Likewise:

"...EB2/EB3...Mexican and Filipino married adult children of U.S. citizens
and Mexican siblings of U.S. citizens face a full century in the backlog."

<https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/immigration-wait-times-quotas-have-doubled-green-card-backlogs-are-long>

62 year backlog:
<https://infogram.com/table-4-green-card-backlog-pa-1h7g6komwm5g2oy>

> > Most of them will be productive and will do a good job raising their
> > children to be law-abiding and respectful. However, with them come the

> > people from MS13...

MS13 was founded in Westlake, Los Angeles; it was exported **by the
US Government** to Central America.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13>

> > There are also Haitians who are allergic to work and who migrate
> > the moment they are told to do so (the Haitians living in the United
> > States after the earthquake in Haiti who migrate to Canada once Trump won
> > the presidency are proof of that).
>
> True statement.

Got proof of that? Because what I've read is that they were productive working
members of society who had their work permits cancelled by Trump. Rather
than be deported back to where they were fleeing from, many took the
initiative to to flee again to Canada:

"Their lives changed in an instant that July day when the government letter arrived
telling them that her work permit was not being renewed. For five years, Sheila
Francois lived, worked and paid her taxes in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., to help support
her three teenaged children. When she and husband, Frank, read that letter -- no
renewal and no explanation -- they knew their life in the United States was over.
'If you have status and you see that immigration stops it, right away you think one
thing -- deportations,' says 44-year-old Frank Francois."

<https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/why-haitians-are-fleeing-trump-and-marching-to-canada-1.3563445>

> Where I live there is a lot of farm and hospitality business and
> Mexicans work there. They are hard working people, often very religious
> and family oriented.

Except their religion is largely Catholic, as American "Christianity" is more
Protestant which historically has a strong loathing of Catholicism. As such,
being brown and Catholic were two strikes against them in the eyes of the
American Evangelicals to accept (or help) them as 'good deserving Christians'.

> Glasser would probably enjoy being raped by a broomstick.

Quick, identify the nationalities of these names:
Justin Volpe, Charles Schwarz, Thomas Bruder, Thomas Wiese

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima>

-hh

[Joel]

I just don't think they're really crossing the line, from what was
reported here. It is a fine line, to be sure, with kids that age, but
nevertheless, it's not an entirely forbidden subject. Kids of all
ages can have sexual urges and feelings.

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> pothead wrote:
>
>>On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> pothead wrote:
>>>
>>>>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>>>>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>>>>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>>>>them are LBGTQ.
>>>>
>>>>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>>>
>>> Stop lying. It's not "hypocrisy" to not attack another religion's
>>> beliefs, even when they may be repugnant to us.
>>
>>But it's ok to attack their countries in the name of nation building.
>
> When did the "liberal media, Hollywood, etc" say that?

They have supported it for years. But only when it was Clinton and
Obama.
Neither never met a war they didn't like.

>>More hypocrisy.
>
> More *lies* from a right winger.

Wrong.
I'm not a right winger.
I'm right down the middle.
Sometimes left, socially, Sometimes right, fiscally.

>> (snip more lies)
>
> GD, you are a shitty liar. Like so many right-wingers. Making it up
> as you go along.

Couldn't address the other points so you snit, oops, snip and run.
Typical indoctrinated left winger.

How's the country doing now that your boy Biden is in charge?
Looks like it's going to hell in a handbag.

Border crisis.
Buying oil from Iran.
Re-joining corrupt organizations.
Protecting his own, and Hunter's ass by bending over to China.
Same for Russia where he is having a summit after they hack the
pipeline and other places.

Real "strong" president this Biden is.

China, Russia, Ukraine, Iran and a bevy of other countries have Biden
by the balls due to his pay for play.
It's so obvious.

[pothead]

You're an idiot if you give away something so some conglomerate like
Google makes a fortune off of it.
We are not talking about donating to breast cancer fund or something
similar. We are talking about the very types of corporate oligarchies
or monopolies people like you despise.

Short answer you are a fool.

[Joel]

pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:

>>>Muslims simply do not tolerate girly men.
>>>Hell, aside from having a vagina, they barely tolerate women.
>>
>> Are you smoking meth?
>
>I don't drink or use drugs.
>Not everyone is like you and snit.

Yeah, well, apparently tribal paranoia comes naturally to you, then.

>You might want to take a look at Muslim countries and the Koran and see
>what they think of homosexuals and genetic women as well.

Not my problem. I don't live there. There are many Muslims in my
area (the Washington DC suburbs in Maryland), and they get along well
with everyone else.

>>>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>>>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>>>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>>>them are LBGTQ.
>>>
>>>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>>
>> No, it's not hypocrisy, it's a recognition that we don't get to
>> dictate to other countries what they should do - we'd all like for
>> less liberal Muslim-majority countries to change, but it's not going
>> to happen in an instant, we have to work toward that.
>
>Except when it comes to nation building and support of those countries
>while ignoring stuff the left screams about like anti LBGTQ bias.

What do you propose we do, then, just pretend they don't exist? It's
a small world, we have to work to unify it, it's a challenge but it's
one we would be wise to take on.

>You need to educate yourself.
>
>People like snit would be tossed off the roof of the tallest structure
>in town.
>It's a fact.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam
>
>https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/isis-hurls-gay-men-
>buildings-stones-them-analysts-n305171
>
>You and snit had better watch your backs.

I'm not scared, I'm not even gay, but I'd pretend to be if it would
make a rhetorical point about homophobia. I stand for equality,
regardless of what others think about me.

>>>It will happen.
>>>And it's not going to be long before it does.
>>
>> Seems paranoid, to me.
>
>It's a fact.
>They are breeding like rabbits.
>
>https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-
>muslim-population-continues-to-grow/

So it's growing from 1% to 2%, or something? I mean, who cares?

--
Joel Crump

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>And the liberal media, Hollywood, etc totally ignore the persecution
>>>>>that LBGTQ face in Muslim countries.
>>>>>Which is odd considering at least for Hollywood, a very high portion of
>>>>>them are LBGTQ.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's just another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
>>>>
>>>> Stop lying. It's not "hypocrisy" to not attack another religion's
>>>> beliefs, even when they may be repugnant to us.
>>>
>>>But it's ok to attack their countries in the name of nation building.
>>
>> When did the "liberal media, Hollywood, etc" say that?
>
>They have supported it for years. But only when it was Clinton and
>Obama.
>Neither never met a war they didn't like.

More lies.

>>>More hypocrisy.
>>
>> More *lies* from a right winger.
>
>Wrong.
>I'm not a right winger.
>I'm right down the middle.

More lies.

>Sometimes left, socially, Sometimes right, fiscally.
>
>>> (snip more lies)
>>
>> GD, you are a shitty liar. Like so many right-wingers. Making it up
>> as you go along.
>
>Couldn't address the other points so you snit, oops, snip and run.
>Typical indoctrinated left winger.

All it was was some creep attacking liberals as "hypocrites" because
they won't condemn an entire religion.

Only a right-winger could be so low, such a shitty liar.

> (snip list of gripes)

Nothing there that has anything to do with liberal policies.

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>You're an idiot if you give away something so some conglomerate like
>Google makes a fortune off of it.

GPL'ed software is not "given away", idiot.

Google contributes back, idiot. Learn how to read and think.

FFS, don't you know that you're stupid? Don't you know that you being
so fscking *wrong* about FOSS *proves* that you're a fscking idiot?

Sheesh!

> (snipped, unread)

[chrisv]

Joel wrote:

>So it's growing from 1% to 2%, or something? I mean, who cares?

He's a POS.

Jeezez. Calling people "hypocrites" because they won't denounce
Islam. WTF good would that do??

Only a right-winger could be so shitty.

Does he have *any* idea of the principles of this country, in regards
to religious freedoms?

[Joel]

Exactly. Remember back in 2008, when former (then future)
Pres. Obama's pastor in Chicago's sermons were being used against him?
It was awfully interesting, not only were Rev. Wright's religious
freedoms under attack, but Obama was being "canceled" merely for being
a member of his church! And that was a *Christian* church!

But now? We're such bastards for using "cancel culture" against total
right-wing extremists. And they call *us* "hypocrites" ...

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think it's very dangerous.

Think back when you were 6 yo.
Would you have been ready for this?
When I was 6yo girls had cooties :)

[Joel]

pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:

>How's the country doing now that your boy Biden is in charge?
>Looks like it's going to hell in a handbag.
>
>Border crisis.

Inherited from Trump.


>Buying oil from Iran.


GOOD [note: I have not seen a mainstream report of that, but I'm
presuming, for the sake of argument, that it really happened]. I'm
tired of punishing the Iranian civilians for their government's
correct reaction to the human rights abuses of the Israelis.


>Re-joining corrupt organizations.


Could you perhaps be a little more specific?

>Protecting his own, and Hunter's ass by bending over to China.

Utterly ridiculous.

>Same for Russia where he is having a summit after they hack the
>pipeline and other places.

Unlike Trump's dumb ass, I bet Pres. Joe *will* stand up to Putin.

>Real "strong" president this Biden is.
>
>China, Russia, Ukraine, Iran and a bevy of other countries have Biden
>by the balls due to his pay for play.
>It's so obvious.

Delusion.

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

Ughh.
I give up.
For your sake, I hope you wake up before it's too late.
Maybe $10.00 / gallon for gas or no/limited medical care for retirees
but full medical coverage for border jumpers will do it.
I dunno.
You need to do a full reset and look at the CURRENT left/democrat
policies and decide.

Take a look around you.
What has improved since Biden took office?

Do you realize his proposed infrastructure bill for example has little
to do with infrastructure and mostly to do with handouts?

Try reading it and researching.


This is NOT the party of JFK or on the republican side it's not the
party of Reagan either.
Times have changed.

Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> pothead wrote:
>
>>You're an idiot if you give away something so some conglomerate like
>>Google makes a fortune off of it.
>
> GPL'ed software is not "given away", idiot.

Yes it is. In terms of $$$$$$.

> Google contributes back, idiot. Learn how to read and think.

I stated that.
Learn to read.

> FFS, don't you know that you're stupid? Don't you know that you being
> so fscking *wrong* about FOSS *proves* that you're a fscking idiot?
>
> Sheesh!
>
>> (snipped, unread)

1. Write a program
2. Give it away.
3. Google uses it to make millions.
4. Still living in mom's basement are you?

So who is the fool?

Why should I care that Google gives back to the community?
These are breadcrumbs ala Nancy Pelosi.
How does this help me?

There should be a clause in place that guarantees income to the
programmers when a mega corporation makes a fortune off "Free" software.
It's only fair.

Google are laughing all the way to the bank while the fool who gave
away his hard work is struggling.
And most of them are.

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Joel wrote:
>
>>So it's growing from 1% to 2%, or something? I mean, who cares?
>
> He's a POS.

Yet I have been dismatling your poor arguments one at a time.

> Jeezez. Calling people "hypocrites" because they won't denounce
> Islam. WTF good would that do??

Wrong.
I am calling people who call for the support of Muslim nations while
ignoring the human rights abuses that these nations contribute to
hypocrites.



> Only a right-winger could be so logical.

I fixed that for you.

> Does he have *any* idea of the principles of this country, in regards
> to religious freedoms?

Then why does Hollywood and the media support these nations but ignore
the human rights violations?

You can't answer that one can you.

[Joel]

pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:

>> I just don't think they're really crossing the line, from what was
>> reported here. It is a fine line, to be sure, with kids that age, but
>> nevertheless, it's not an entirely forbidden subject. Kids of all
>> ages can have sexual urges and feelings.
>
>I think it's very dangerous.
>
>Think back when you were 6 yo.
>Would you have been ready for this?
>When I was 6yo girls had cooties :)

I understand that, but it's not an all-or-nothing thing. Of course
you aren't going to start full sex ed in first grade, or some shit,
but there are age-appropriate lessons that could be taught,
nonetheless.

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

You and chisv seem to be siffering from TDS.
TDA = Trump Derangement Syndrome.

And I don't even like the guy but I can say things were a hell of a lot
better for my wallet under Trump than under Biden.

All Biden had to do was nothing, which you would think he would be good
at considering his 40+ years in politics but no he had to fuck
everything up just because these were Trump policies.

Biden owns this as much as Trump owned the situation he was handed.

Trump fixed a lot of Obama's screw ups.

Biden is screwing up Trump's successes.

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:
> On 2021-06-01, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>How's the country doing now that your boy Biden is in charge?
>>>Looks like it's going to hell in a handbag.
>>>
>>>Border crisis.
>>
>>
>> Inherited from Trump.
>>
>>
>>>Buying oil from Iran.
>>
>>
>> GOOD [note: I have not seen a mainstream report of that, but I'm
>> presuming, for the sake of argument, that it really happened]. I'm
>> tired of punishing the Iranian civilians for their government's
>> correct reaction to the human rights abuses of the Israelis.
>>
>>
>>>Re-joining corrupt organizations.
>>
>>
>> Could you perhaps be a little more specific?
>>
>>
>>>Protecting his own, and Hunter's ass by bending over to China.
>>
>>
>> Utterly ridiculous.
>>
>>
>>>Same for Russia where he is having a summit after they hack the
>>>pipeline and other places.
>>
>>
>> Unlike Trump's dumb ass, I bet Pres. Joe *will* stand up to Putin.
>>
>>
>>>Real "strong" president this Biden is.
>>>
>>>China, Russia, Ukraine, Iran and a bevy of other countries have Biden
>>>by the balls due to his pay for play.
>>>It's so obvious.
>>
>>
>> Delusion.
>

> You and chisv seem to be suffering from TDS.
> TDS = Trump Derangement Syndrome.

>
> And I don't even like the guy but I can say things were a hell of a lot
> better for my wallet under Trump than under Biden.
>
> All Biden had to do was nothing, which you would think he would be good
> at considering his 40+ years in politics but no he had to fuck
> everything up just because these were Trump policies.
>
> Biden owns this as much as Trump owned the situation he was handed.
>
> Trump fixed a lot of Obama's screw ups.
>
> Biden is screwing up Trump's successes.

Goodness I fucked that post up, but you get the drift.
Corrected spelling.

[Joel]

pothead <pot...@snakebite.com> wrote:

>>>China, Russia, Ukraine, Iran and a bevy of other countries have Biden
>>>by the balls due to his pay for play.
>>>It's so obvious.
>>
>> Delusion.
>
>You and chisv seem to be siffering from TDS.
>TDA = Trump Derangement Syndrome.
>
>And I don't even like the guy but I can say things were a hell of a lot
>better for my wallet under Trump than under Biden.
>
>All Biden had to do was nothing, which you would think he would be good
>at considering his 40+ years in politics but no he had to fuck
>everything up just because these were Trump policies.
>
>Biden owns this as much as Trump owned the situation he was handed.
>
>Trump fixed a lot of Obama's screw ups.
>
>Biden is screwing up Trump's successes.

You actually think Trump did *anything* good, at all? Well, I guess,
in fairness, a broken clock is right twice a day, and there were
things I could count on one mutilated hand that I agreed with, but
overall, Trump was an utterly disastrous president. Hell, if nothing
else, just look at January 6th, he incited a mob of chromosome-missing
lunatics to storm the Capitol, to interfere with counting the
electoral college votes! Is that the kind of "success" you want to go
back to?!

--
Joel Crump

[pothead]

On 2021-06-01, Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yea, Trump is an idiot, I agree. He brags, he tweets, he says stupid
things but if you consider what he accomplished, really accomplished
and not just "let's unify the country" platitudes like Biden, he did a
lot.
Here is some of it:

<https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-
accomplishments/>

You may not agree with all of them but he DID do something...

So what has Biden done other than $4.00 gallon gas prices and please
don't start the pandemic excuse because these are the highest prices in
7 years.


Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most
prosperous economy.

America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government
experts’ projections.
Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five
times the gains during the entire previous administration.
The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a
half-century.
Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160
million.
Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of
the population hit its lowest on record.
Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the
first time in nearly 3 decades.

Delivered a future of greater promise and opportunity for citizens of
all backgrounds.

Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian
Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities,
and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached
record lows.
Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest
amount in over a decade.
The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent
increase in net worth.
Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16
percent pay increase.
African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4
percent.

Brought jobs, factories, and industries back to the USA.

Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.
Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.

Hit record stock market numbers and record 401ks.

The DOW closed above 20,000 for the first time in 2017 and topped
30,000 in 2020.
The S&P 500 and NASDAQ have repeatedly notched record highs.

Rebuilding and investing in rural America.

Signed an Executive Order on Modernizing the Regulatory Framework
for Agricultural Biotechnology Products, which is bringing innovative
new technologies to market in American farming and agriculture.
Strengthened America’s rural economy by investing over $1.3 billion
through the Agriculture Department’s ReConnect Program to bring
high-speed broadband infrastructure to rural America.

Achieved a record-setting economic comeback by rejecting blanket
lockdowns.

An October 2020 Gallup survey found 56 percent of Americans said
they were better off during a pandemic than four years prior.
During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1
percent – the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
Since coronavirus lockdowns ended, the economy has added back over
12 million jobs, more than half the jobs lost.
Jobs have been recovered 23 times faster than the previous
administration’s recovery.
Unemployment fell to 6.7 percent in December, from a pandemic peak
of 14.7 percent in April – beating expectations of well over 10 percent
unemployment through the end of 2020.
Under the previous administration, it took 49 months for the
unemployment rate to fall from 10 percent to under 7 percent compared to
just 3 months for the Trump Administration.
Since April, the Hispanic unemployment rate has fallen by 9.6
percent, Asian-American unemployment by 8.6 percent, and Black American
unemployment by 6.8 percent.
80 percent of small businesses are now open, up from just 53 percent
in April.
Small business confidence hit a new high.
Homebuilder confidence reached an all-time high, and home sales hit
their highest reading since December 2006.
Manufacturing optimism nearly doubled.
Household net worth rose $7.4 trillion in Q2 2020 to $112 trillion,
an all-time high.
Home prices hit an all-time record high.
The United States rejected crippling lockdowns that crush the
economy and inflict countless public health harms and instead safely
reopened its economy.
Business confidence is higher in America than in any other G7 or
European Union country.
Stabilized America’s financial markets with the establishment of a
number of Treasury Department supported facilities at the Federal
Reserve.

Tax Relief for the Middle Class

Passed $3.2 trillion in historic tax relief and reformed the tax code.

Signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act – the largest tax reform package in
history.
More than 6 million American workers received wage increases,
bonuses, and increased benefits thanks to the tax cuts.
A typical family of four earning $75,000 received an income tax cut
of more than $2,000 – slashing their tax bill in half.
Doubled the standard deduction – making the first $24,000 earned by
a married couple completely tax-free.
Doubled the child tax credit.
Virtually eliminated the unfair Estate Tax, or Death Tax.
Cut the business tax rate from 35 percent – the highest in the
developed world – all the way down to 21 percent.
Small businesses can now deduct 20 percent of their business income.
Businesses can now deduct 100 percent of the cost of their capital
investments in the year the investment is made.
Since the passage of tax cuts, the share of total wealth held by the
bottom half of households has increased, while the share held by the top
1 percent has decreased.
Over 400 companies have announced bonuses, wage increases, new
hires, or new investments in the United States.
Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from
overseas.
Lower investment cost and higher capital returns led to faster
growth in the middle class, real wages, and international
competitiveness.

Jobs and investments are pouring into Opportunity Zones.

Created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones where capital gains on
long-term investments are taxed at zero.
Opportunity Zone designations have increased property values within
them by 1.1 percent, creating an estimated $11 billion in wealth for the
nearly half of Opportunity Zone residents who own their own home.
Opportunity Zones have attracted $75 billion in funds and driven $52
billion of new investment in economically distressed communities,
creating at least 500,000 new jobs.
Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a
result of these new investments.
Private equity investments into businesses in Opportunity Zones were
nearly 30 percent higher than investments into businesses in similar
areas that were not designated Opportunity Zones.

Massive Deregulation

Ended the regulatory assault on American Businesses and Workers.

Instead of 2-for-1, we eliminated 8 old regulations for every 1 new
regulation adopted.
Provided the average American household an extra $3,100 every year.
Reduced the direct cost of regulatory compliance by $50 billion, and
will reduce costs by an additional $50 billion in FY 2020 alone.
Removed nearly 25,000 pages from the Federal Register – more than
any other president. The previous administration added over 16,000
pages.
Established the Governors’ Initiative on Regulatory Innovation to
reduce outdated regulations at the state, local, and tribal levels.
Signed an executive order to make it easier for businesses to offer
retirement plans.
Signed two executive orders to increase transparency in Federal
agencies and protect Americans and their small businesses from
administrative abuse.
Modernized the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) for the
first time in over 40 years.
Reduced approval times for major infrastructure projects from 10 or
more years down to 2 years or less.
Helped community banks by signing legislation that rolled back
costly provisions of Dodd-Frank.
Established the White House Council on Eliminating Regulatory
Barriers to Affordable Housing to bring down housing costs.
Removed regulations that threatened the development of a strong and
stable internet.
Eased and simplified restrictions on rocket launches, helping to
spur commercial investment in space projects.
Published a whole-of-government strategy focused on ensuring
American leadership in automated vehicle technology.
Streamlined energy efficiency regulations for American families and
businesses, including preserving affordable lightbulbs, enhancing the
utility of showerheads, and enabling greater time savings with
dishwashers.
Removed unnecessary regulations that restrict the seafood industry
and impede job creation.
Modernized the Department of Agriculture’s biotechnology regulations
to put America in the lead to develop new technologies.
Took action to suspend regulations that would have slowed our
response to COVID-19, including lifting restrictions on manufacturers to
more quickly produce ventilators.

Successfully rolled back burdensome regulatory overreach.

Rescinded the previous administration’s Affirmatively Furthering
Fair Housing (AFFH) rule, which would have abolished zoning for
single-family housing to build low-income, federally subsidized
apartments.
Issued a final rule on the Fair Housing Act’s disparate impact
standard.
Eliminated the Waters of the United States Rule and replaced it with
the Navigable Waters Protection Rule, providing relief and certainty for
farmers and property owners.
Repealed the previous administration’s costly fuel economy
regulations by finalizing the Safer Affordable Fuel Efficient (SAFE)
Vehicles rule, which will make cars more affordable, and lower the price
of new vehicles by an estimated $2,200.

Americans now have more money in their pockets.

Deregulation had an especially beneficial impact on low-income
Americans who pay a much higher share of their incomes for
overregulation.
Cut red tape in the healthcare industry, providing Americans with
more affordable healthcare and saving Americans nearly 10 percent on
prescription drugs.
Deregulatory efforts yielded savings to the medical community an
estimated $6.6 billion – with a reduction of 42 million hours of
regulatory compliance work through 2021.
Removed government barriers to personal freedom and consumer choice
in healthcare.
Once fully in effect, 20 major deregulatory actions undertaken by
the Trump Administration are expected to save American consumers and
businesses over $220 billion per year.
Signed 16 pieces of deregulatory legislation that will result in a
$40 billion increase in annual real incomes.

Fair and Reciprocal Trade

Secured historic trade deals to defend American workers.

Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership
(TPP).
Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced
it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
The USMCA contains powerful new protections for American
manufacturers, auto-makers, farmers, dairy producers, and workers.
The USMCA is expected to generate over $68 billion in economic
activity and potentially create over 550,000 new jobs over ten years.
Signed an executive order making it government policy to Buy
American and Hire American, and took action to stop the outsourcing of
jobs overseas.
Negotiated with Japan to slash tariffs and open its market to $7
billion in American agricultural products and ended its ban on potatoes
and lamb.
Over 90 percent of American agricultural exports to Japan now
receive preferential treatment, and most are duty-free.
Negotiated another deal with Japan to boost $40 billion worth of
digital trade.
Renegotiated the United States-Korea Free Trade Agreement, doubling
the cap on imports of American vehicles and extending the American light
truck tariff.
Reached a written, fully-enforceable Phase One trade agreement with
China on confronting pirated and counterfeit goods, and the protection
of American ideas, trade secrets, patents, and trademarks.
China agreed to purchase an additional $200 billion worth of United
States exports and opened market access for over 4,000 American
facilities to exports while all tariffs remained in effect.
Achieved a mutual agreement with the European Union (EU) that
addresses unfair trade practices and increases duty-free exports by 180
percent to $420 million.
Secured a pledge from the EU to eliminate tariffs on American
lobster – the first United States-European Union negotiated tariff
reduction in over 20 years.
Scored a historic victory by overhauling the Universal Postal Union,
whose outdated policies were undermining American workers and interests.
Engaged extensively with trade partners like the EU and Japan to
advance reforms to the World Trade Organization (WTO).
Issued a first-ever comprehensive report on the WTO Appellate Body’s
failures to comply with WTO rules and interpret WTO agreements as
written.
Blocked nominees to the WTO’s Appellate Body until WTO Members
recognize and address longstanding issues with Appellate Body activism.
Submitted 5 papers to the WTO Committee on Agriculture to improve
Members’ understanding of how trade policies are implemented, highlight
areas for improved transparency, and encourage members to maintain
up-to-date notifications on market access and domestic support.

Took strong actions to confront unfair trade practices and put America
First.

Imposed tariffs on hundreds of billions worth of Chinese goods to
protect American jobs and stop China’s abuses under Section 232 of the
Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974.
Directed an all-of-government effort to halt and punish efforts by
the Communist Party of China to steal and profit from American
innovations and intellectual property.
Imposed tariffs on foreign aluminum and foreign steel to protect our
vital industries and support our national security.
Approved tariffs on $1.8 billion in imports of washing machines and
$8.5 billion in imports of solar panels.
Blocked illegal timber imports from Peru.
Took action against France for its digital services tax that
unfairly targets American technology companies.
Launched investigations into digital services taxes that have been
proposed or adopted by 10 other countries.

Historic support for American farmers.

Successfully negotiated more than 50 agreements with countries
around the world to increase foreign market access and boost exports of
American agriculture products, supporting more than 1 million American
jobs.
Authorized $28 billion in aid for farmers who have been subjected to
unfair trade practices – fully funded by the tariffs paid by China.
China lifted its ban on poultry, opened its market to beef, and
agreed to purchase at least $80 billion of American agricultural
products in the next two years.
The European Union agreed to increase beef imports by 180 percent
and opened up its market to more imports of soybeans.
South Korea lifted its ban on American poultry and eggs, and agreed
to provide market access for record exports of American rice.
Argentina lifted its ban on American pork.
Brazil agreed to increase wheat imports by $180 million a year and
raised its quotas for purchases of United States ethanol.
Guatemala and Tunisia opened up their markets to American eggs.
Won tariff exemptions in Ecuador for wheat and soybeans.
Suspended $817 million in trade preferences for Thailand under the
Generalized System of Preferences (GSP) program due to its failure to
adequately provide reasonable market access for American pork products.
The amount of food stamps redeemed at farmers markets increased from
$1.4 million in May 2020 to $1.75 million in September 2020 – a 50
percent increase over last year.
Rapidly deployed the Coronavirus Food Assistance Program, which
provided $30 billion in support to farmers and ranchers facing decreased
prices and market disruption when COVID-19 impacted the food supply
chain.
Authorized more than $6 billion for the Farmers to Families Food Box
program, which delivered over 128 million boxes of locally sourced,
produce, meat, and dairy products to charity and faith-based
organizations nationwide.
Delegated authorities via the Defense Production Act to protect
breaks in the American food supply chain as a result of COVID-19.

American Energy Independence

Unleashed America’s oil and natural gas potential.

For the first time in nearly 70 years, the United States has become
a net energy exporter.
The United States is now the number one producer of oil and natural
gas in the world.
Natural gas production reached a record-high of 34.9 quads in 2019,
following record high production in 2018 and in 2017.
The United States has been a net natural gas exporter for three
consecutive years and has an export capacity of nearly 10 billion cubic
feet per day.
Withdrew from the unfair, one-sided Paris Climate Agreement.
Canceled the previous administration’s Clean Power Plan, and
replaced it with the new Affordable Clean Energy rule.
Approved the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines.
Opened up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in Alaska to
oil and gas leasing.
Repealed the last administration’s Federal Coal Leasing Moratorium,
which prohibited coal leasing on Federal lands.
Reformed permitting rules to eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy and
speed approval for mines.
Fixed the New Source Review permitting program, which punished
companies for upgrading or repairing coal power plants.
Fixed the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) steam electric and
coal ash rules.
The average American family saved $2,500 a year in lower electric
bills and lower prices at the gas pump.
Signed legislation repealing the harmful Stream Protection Rule.
Reduced the time to approve drilling permits on public lands by
half, increasing permit applications to drill on public lands by 300
percent.
Expedited approval of the NuStar’s New Burgos pipeline to export
American gasoline to Mexico.
Streamlined Liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal permitting and
allowed long-term LNG export authorizations to be extended through 2050.
The United States is now among the top three LNG exporters in the
world.
Increased LNG exports five-fold since January 2017, reaching an
all-time high in January 2020.
LNG exports are expected to reduce the American trade deficit by
over $10 billion.
Granted more than 20 new long-term approvals for LNG exports to
non-free trade agreement countries.
The development of natural gas and LNG infrastructure in the United
States is providing tens of thousands of jobs, and has led to the
investment of tens of billions of dollars in infrastructure.
There are now 6 LNG export facilities operating in the United
States, with 2 additional export projects under construction.
The amount of nuclear energy production in 2019 was the highest on
record, through a combination of increased capacity from power plant
upgrades and shorter refueling and maintenance cycles.
Prevented Russian energy coercion across Europe through various
lines of effort, including the Partnership for Transatlantic Energy
Cooperation, civil nuclear deals with Romania and Poland, and opposition
to Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
Issued the Presidential Permit for the A2A railroad between Canada
and Alaska, providing energy resources to emerging markets.

Increased access to our country’s abundant natural resources in order to
achieve energy independence.

Renewable energy production and consumption both reached record
highs in 2019.
Enacted policies that helped double the amount of electricity
generated by solar and helped increase the amount of wind generation by
32 percent from 2016 through 2019.
Accelerated construction of energy infrastructure to ensure American
energy producers can deliver their products to the market.
Cut red tape holding back the construction of new energy
infrastructure.
Authorized ethanol producers to sell E15 year-round and allowed
higher-ethanol gasoline to be distributed from existing pumps at filling
stations.
Ensured greater transparency and certainty in the Renewable Fuel
Standard (RFS) program.
Negotiated leasing capacity in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to
Australia, providing American taxpayers a return on this infrastructure
investment.
Signed an executive order directing Federal agencies to work
together to diminish the capability of foreign adversaries to target our
critical electric infrastructure.
Reformed Section 401 of the Clean Water Act regulation to allow for
the curation of interstate infrastructure.
Resolved the OPEC (Organization of the Petroleum Exporting
Countries) oil crisis during COVID-19 by getting OPEC, Russia, and
others to cut nearly 10 million barrels of production a day, stabilizing
world oil prices.
Directed the Department of Energy to use the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve to mitigate market volatility caused by COVID-19.

Investing in America’s Workers and Families

Affordable and high-quality Child Care for American workers and their
families.

Doubled the Child Tax Credit from $1,000 to $2,000 per child and
expanded the eligibility for receiving the credit.
Nearly 40 million families benefitted from the child tax credit
(CTC), receiving an average benefit of $2,200 – totaling credits of
approximately $88 billion.
Signed the largest-ever increase in Child Care and Development Block
Grants – expanding access to quality, affordable child care for more
than 800,000 low-income families.
Secured an additional $3.5 billion in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief,
and Economic Security (CARES) Act to help families and first responders
with child care needs.
Created the first-ever paid family leave tax credit for employees
earning $72,000 or less.
Signed into law 12-weeks of paid parental leave for Federal workers.
Signed into law a provision that enables new parents to withdraw up
to $5,000 from their retirement accounts without penalty when they give
birth to or adopt a child.

Advanced apprenticeship career pathways to good-paying jobs.

Expanded apprenticeships to more than 850,000 and established the
new Industry-Recognized Apprenticeship programs in new and emerging
fields.
Established the National Council for the American Worker and the
American Workforce Policy Advisory Board.
Over 460 companies have signed the Pledge to America’s Workers,
committing to provide more than 16 million job and training
opportunities.
Signed an executive order that directs the Federal government to
replace outdated degree-based hiring with skills-based hiring.

Advanced women’s economic empowerment.

Included women’s empowerment for the first time in the President’s
2017 National Security Strategy.
Signed into law key pieces of legislation, including the Women,
Peace, and Security Act and the Women Entrepreneurship and Economic
Empowerment Act.
Launched the Women’s Global Development and Prosperity (W-GDP)
Initiative – the first-ever whole-of-government approach to women’s
economic empowerment that has reached 24 million women worldwide.
Established an innovative new W-GDP Fund at USAID.
Launched the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative (We-Fi) with 13
other nations.
Announced a $50 million donation on behalf of the United States to
We-Fi providing more capital to women-owned businesses around the world.
Released the first-ever Strategy on Women, Peace, and Security,
which focused on increasing women’s participation to prevent and resolve
conflicts.
Launched the W-GDP 2x Global Women’s Initiative with the Development
Finance Corporation, which has mobilized more than $3 billion in private
sector investments over three years.

Ensured American leadership in technology and innovation.

First administration to name artificial intelligence, quantum
information science, and 5G communications as national research and
development priorities.
Launched the American Broadband Initiative to promote the rapid
deployment of broadband internet across rural America.
Made 100 megahertz of crucial mid-band spectrum available for
commercial operations, a key factor to driving widespread 5G access
across rural America.
Launched the American AI Initiative to ensure American leadership in
artificial intelligence (AI), and established the National AI Initiative
Office at the White House.
Established the first-ever principles for Federal agency adoption of
AI to improve services for the American people.
Signed the National Quantum Initiative Act establishing the National
Quantum Coordination Office at the White House to drive breakthroughs in
quantum information science.
Signed the Secure 5G and Beyond Act to ensure America leads the
world in 5G.
Launched a groundbreaking program to test safe and innovative
commercial drone operations nationwide.
Issued new rulemaking to accelerate the return of American civil
supersonic aviation.
Committed to doubling investments in AI and quantum information
science (QIS) research and development.
Announced the establishment of $1 billion AI and quantum research
institutes across America.
Established the largest dual-use 5G test sites in the world to
advance 5G commercial and military innovation.
Signed landmark Prague Principles with America’s allies to advance
the deployment of secure 5G telecommunications networks.
Signed first-ever bilateral AI cooperation agreement with the United
Kingdom.
Built collation among allies to ban Chinese Telecom Company Huawei
from their 5G infrastructure.

Preserved American jobs for American workers and rejected the
importation of cheap foreign labor.

Pressured the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) to reverse their
decision to lay off over 200 American workers and replace them with
cheaper foreign workers.
Removed the TVA Chairman of the Board and a TVA Board Member.

Life-Saving Response to the China Virus

Restricted travel to the United States from infected regions of the
world.

Suspended all travel from China, saving thousands of lives.
Required all American citizens returning home from designated
outbreak countries to return through designated airports with enhanced
screening measures, and to undergo a self-quarantine.
Announced further travel restrictions on Iran, the Schengen Area of
Europe, the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Brazil.
Issued travel advisory warnings recommending that American citizens
avoid all international travel.
Reached bilateral agreements with Mexico and Canada to suspend
non-essential travel and expeditiously return illegal aliens.
Repatriated over 100,000 American citizens stranded abroad on more
than 1,140 flights from 136 countries and territories.
Safely transported, evacuated, treated, and returned home trapped
passengers on cruise ships.
Took action to authorize visa sanctions on foreign governments who
impede our efforts to protect American citizens by refusing or
unreasonably delaying the return of their own citizens, subjects, or
residents from the United States.

Acted early to combat the China Virus in the United States.

Established the White House Coronavirus Task Force, with leading
experts on infectious diseases, to manage the Administration’s efforts
to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 and to keep workplaces safe.
Pledged in the State of the Union address to “take all necessary
steps to safeguard our citizens from the Virus,” while the Democrats’
response made not a single mention of COVID-19 or even the threat of
China.
Declared COVID-19 a National Emergency under the Stafford Act.
Established the 24/7 FEMA National Response Coordination Center.
Released guidance recommending containment measures critical to
slowing the spread of the Virus, decompressing peak burden on hospitals
and infrastructure, and diminishing health impacts.
Implemented strong community mitigation strategies to sharply reduce
the number of lives lost in the United States down from experts’
projection of up to 2.2 million deaths in the United States without
mitigation.
Halted American funding to the World Health Organization to counter
its egregious bias towards China that jeopardized the safety of
Americans.
Announced plans for withdrawal from the World Health Organization
and redirected contribution funds to help meet global public health
needs.
Called on the United Nations to hold China accountable for their
handling of the virus, including refusing to be transparent and failing
to contain the virus before it spread.

Re-purposed domestic manufacturing facilities to ensure frontline
workers had critical supplies.

Distributed billions of pieces of Personal Protective Equipment,
including gloves, masks, gowns, and face shields.
Invoked the Defense Production Act over 100 times to accelerate the
development and manufacturing of essential material in the USA.
Made historic investments of more than $3 billion into the
industrial base.
Contracted with companies such as Ford, General Motors, Philips, and
General Electric to produce ventilators.
Contracted with Honeywell, 3M, O&M Halyard, Moldex, and Lydall to
increase our Nation’s production of N-95 masks.
The Army Corps of Engineers built 11,000 beds, distributed 10,000
ventilators, and surged personnel to hospitals.
Converted the Javits Center in New York into a 3,000-bed hospital,
and opened medical facilities in Seattle and New Orleans.
Dispatched the USNS Comfort to New York City, and the USNS Mercy to
Los Angeles.
Deployed thousands of FEMA employees, National Guard members, and
military forces to help in the response.
Provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus,
including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and
advising on mitigation strategies.
Announced Federal support to governors for use of the National Guard
with 100 percent cost-share.
Established the Supply Chain Task Force as a “control tower” to
strategically allocate high-demand medical supplies and PPE to areas of
greatest need.
Requested critical data elements from states about the status of
hospital capacity, ventilators, and PPE.
Executed nearly 250 flights through Project Air Bridge to transport
hundreds of millions of surgical masks, N95 respirators, gloves, and
gowns from around the world to hospitals and facilities throughout the
United States.
Signed an executive order invoking the Defense Production Act to
ensure that Americans have a reliable supply of products like beef,
pork, and poultry.
Stabilized the food supply chain restoring the Nation’s protein
processing capacity through a collaborative approach with Federal,
state, and local officials and industry partners.
The continued movement of food and other critical items of daily
life distributed to stores and to American homes went unaffected.

Replenished the depleted Strategic National Stockpile.

Increased the number of ventilators nearly ten-fold to more than
153,000.
Despite the grim projections from the media and governors, no
American who has needed a ventilator has been denied a ventilator.
Increased the number of N95 masks fourteen-fold to more than 176
million.
Issued an executive order ensuring critical medical supplies are
produced in the United States.

Created the largest, most advanced, and most innovative testing system
in the world.

Built the world’s leading testing system from scratch, conducting
over 200 million tests – more than all of the European Union combined.
Engaged more than 400 test developers to increase testing capacity
from less than 100 tests per day to more than 2 million tests per day.
Slashed red tape and approved Emergency Use Authorizations for more
than 300 different tests, including 235 molecular tests, 63 antibody
tests, and 11 antigen tests.
Delivered state-of-the-art testing devices and millions of tests to
every certified nursing home in the country.
Announced more flexibility to Medicare Advantage and Part D plans to
waive cost-sharing for tests.
Over 2,000 retail pharmacy stores, including CVS, Walmart, and
Walgreens, are providing testing using new regulatory and reimbursement
options.
Deployed tens of millions of tests to nursing homes, assisted living
facilities, historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs),
tribes, disaster relief operations, Home Health/Hospice organizations,
and the Veterans Health Administration.
Began shipping 150 million BinaxNOW rapid tests to states, long-term
care facilities, the IHS, HBCUs, and other key partners.

Pioneered groundbreaking treatments and therapies that reduced the
mortality rate by 85 percent, saving over 2 million lives.

The United States has among the lowest case fatality rates in the
entire world.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) launched the Coronavirus
Treatment Acceleration Program to expedite the regulatory review process
for therapeutics in clinical trials, accelerate the development and
publication of industry guidance on developing treatments, and utilize
regulatory flexibility to help facilitate the scaling-up of
manufacturing capacity.
More than 370 therapies are in clinical trials and another 560 are
in the planning stages.
Announced $450 million in available funds to support the
manufacturing of Regeneron’s antibody cocktail.
Shipped tens of thousands of doses of the Regeneron drug.
Authorized an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for convalescent
plasma.
Treated around 100,000 patients with convalescent plasma, which may
reduce mortality by 50 percent.
Provided $48 million to fund the Mayo Clinic study that tested the
efficacy of convalescent plasma for patients with COVID-19.
Made an agreement to support the large-scale manufacturing of
AstraZeneca’s cocktail of two monoclonal antibodies.
Approved Remdesivir as the first COVID-19 treatment, which could
reduce hospitalization time by nearly a third.
Secured more than 90 percent of the world’s supply of Remdesivir,
enough to treat over 850,000 high-risk patients.
Granted an EUA to Eli Lilly for its anti-body treatments.
Finalized an agreement with Eli Lilly to purchase the first doses of
the company’s investigational antibody therapeutic.
Provided up to $270 million to the American Red Cross and America’s
Blood Centers to support the collection of up to 360,000 units of
plasma.
Launched a nationwide campaign to ask patients who have recovered
from COVID-19 to donate plasma.
Announced Phase 3 clinical trials for varying types of blood
thinners to treat adults diagnosed with COVID-19.
Issued an EUA for the monoclonal antibody therapy bamlanivimab.
FDA issued an EUA for casirivimab and imdevimab to be administered
together.
Launched the COVID-19 High Performance Computing Consortium with
private sector and academic leaders unleashing America’s supercomputers
to accelerate coronavirus research.

Brought the full power of American medicine and government to produce a
safe and effective vaccine in record time.

Launched Operation Warp Speed to initiate an unprecedented drive to
develop and make available an effective vaccine by January 2021.
Pfizer and Moderna developed two vaccines in just nine months, five
times faster than the fastest prior vaccine development in American
history.
Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines are approximately 95 effective – far
exceeding all expectations.
AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson also both have promising
candidates in the final stage of clinical trials.
The vaccines will be administered within 24 hours of FDA-approval.
Made millions of vaccine doses available before the end of 2020,
with hundreds of millions more to quickly follow.
FedEx and UPS will ship doses from warehouses directly to local
pharmacies, hospitals, and healthcare providers.
Finalized a partnership with CVS and Walgreens to deliver vaccines
directly to residents of nursing homes and long-term care facilities as
soon as a state requests it, at no cost to America’s seniors.
Signed an executive order to ensure that the United States
government prioritizes getting the vaccine to American citizens before
sending it to other nations.
Provided approximately $13 billion to accelerate vaccine development
and to manufacture all of the top candidates in advance.
Provided critical investments of $4.1 billion to Moderna to support
the development, manufacturing, and distribution of their vaccines.
Moderna announced its vaccine is 95 percent effective and is pending
FDA approval.
Provided Pfizer up to $1.95 billion to support the
mass-manufacturing and nationwide distribution of their vaccine
candidate.
Pfizer announced its vaccine is 95 percent effective and is pending
FDA approval.
Provided approximately $1 billion to support the manufacturing and
distribution of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine candidate.
Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine candidate reached the final stage of
clinical trials.
Made up to $1.2 billion available to support AstraZeneca’s vaccine
candidate.
AstraZeneca’s vaccine candidate reached the final stage of clinical
trials.
Made an agreement to support the large-scale manufacturing of
Novavax’s vaccine candidate with 100 million doses expected.
Partnered with Sanofi and GSK to support large-scale manufacturing
of a COVID-19 investigational vaccine.
Awarded $200 million in funding to support vaccine preparedness and
plans for the immediate distribution and administration of vaccines.
Provided $31 million to Cytvia for vaccine-related consumable
products.
Under the PREP Act, issued guidance authorizing qualified pharmacy
technicians to administer vaccines.
Announced that McKesson Corporation will produce store, and
distribute vaccine ancillary supply kits on behalf of the Strategic
National Stockpile to help healthcare workers who will administer
vaccines.
Announced partnership with large-chain, independent, and regional
pharmacies to deliver vaccines.

Prioritized resources for the most vulnerable Americans, including
nursing home residents.

Quickly established guidelines for nursing homes and expanded
telehealth opportunities to protect vulnerable seniors.
Increased surveillance, oversight, and transparency of all 15,417
Medicare and Medicaid nursing homes by requiring them to report cases of
COVID-19 to all residents, their families, and the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (CDC).
Required that all nursing homes test staff regularly.
Launched an unprecedented national nursing home training curriculum
to equip nursing home staff with the knowledge they need to stop the
spread of COVID-19.
Delivered $81 million for increased inspections and funded 35,000
members of the Nation Guard to deliver critical supplies to every
Medicare-certified nursing homes.
Deployed Federal Task Force Strike Teams to provide onsite technical
assistance and education to nursing homes experiencing outbreaks.
Distributed tens of billions of dollars in Provider Relief Funds to
protect nursing homes, long-term care facilities, safety-net hospitals,
rural hospitals, and communities hardest hit by the virus.
Released 1.5 million N95 respirators from the Strategic National
Stockpile for distribution to over 3,000 nursing home facilities.
Directed the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council to
refocus on underserved communities impacted by the coronavirus.
Required that testing results reported include data on race, gender,
ethnicity, and ZIP code, to ensure that resources were directed to
communities disproportionately harmed by the virus.
Ensured testing was offered at 95 percent of Federally Qualified
Health Centers (FQHC), which serve over 29 million patients in 12,000
communities across the Nation.
Invested an unprecedented $8 billion in tribal communities.
Maintained safe access for Veterans to VA healthcare throughout the
COVID-19 Pandemic and supported non-VA hospital systems and private and
state-run nursing homes with VA clinical teams.
Signed legislation ensuring no reduction of VA education benefits
under the GI Bill for online distance learning.

Supported Americans as they safely return to school and work.

Issued the Guidelines for Opening Up America Again, a detailed
blueprint to help governors as they began reopening the country. Focused
on protecting the most vulnerable and mitigating the risk of any
resurgence, while restarting the economy and allowing Americans to
safely return to their jobs.
Helped Americans return to work by providing extensive guidance on
workplace-safety measures to protect against COVID-19, and investigating
over 10,000 coronavirus-related complaints and referrals.
Provided over $31 billion to support elementary and secondary
schools.
Distributed 125 million face masks to school districts.
Provided comprehensive guidelines to schools on how to protect and
identify high-risk individuals, prevent the spread of COVID-19, and
conduct safe in-person teaching.
Brought back the safe return of college athletics, including Big Ten
and Pac-12 football.

Rescued the American economy with nearly $3.4 trillion in relief, the
largest financial aid package in history.

Secured an initial $8.3 billion Coronavirus Preparedness and
Response Act, supporting the development of treatments and vaccines, and
to procure critical medical supplies and equipment.
Signed the $100 billion Families First Coronavirus Relief Act,
guaranteeing free coronavirus testing, emergency paid sick leave and
family leave, Medicaid funding, and food assistance.
Signed the $2.3 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic
Security (CARES) Act, providing unprecedented and immediate relief to
American families, workers, and businesses.
Signed additional legislation providing nearly $900 billion in
support for coronavirus emergency response and relief, including
critically needed funds to continue the Paycheck Protection Program.
Signed the Paycheck Protection Program and Healthcare Enhancement
Act, adding an additional $310 billion to replenish the program.
Delivered approximately 160 million relief payments to hardworking
Americans.
Through the Paycheck Protection Program, approved over $525 billion
in forgivable loans to more than 5.2 million small businesses,
supporting more than 51 million American jobs.
The Treasury Department approved the establishment of the Money
Market Mutual Fund Liquidity Facility to provide liquidity to the
financial system.
The Treasury Department, working with the Federal Reserve, was able
to leverage approximately $4 trillion in emergency lending facilities.
Signed an executive order extending expanded unemployment benefits.
Signed an executive order to temporarily suspend student loan
payments, evictions, and collection of payroll taxes.
Small Business Administration expanded access to emergency economic
assistance for small businesses, faith-based, and religious entities.
Protected jobs for American workers impacted by COVID-19 by
temporarily suspending several job-related nonimmigrant visas, including
H-1B’s, H-2B’s without a nexus to the food-supply chain, certain H-4’s,
as well as L’s and certain J’s.

Great Healthcare for Americans

Empowered American patients by greatly expanding healthcare choice,
transparency, and affordability.

Eliminated the Obamacare individual mandate – a financial relief to
low and middle-income households that made up nearly 80 percent of the
families who paid the penalty for not wanting to purchase health
insurance.
Increased choice for consumers by promoting competition in the
individual health insurance market leading to lower premiums for three
years in a row.
Under the Trump Administration, more than 90 percent of the counties
have multiple options on the individual insurance market to choose from.
Offered Association Health Plans, which allow employers to pool
together and offer more affordable, quality health coverage to their
employees at up to 30 percent lower cost.
Increased availability of short-term, limited-duration health plans,
which can cost up to 60 percent less than traditional plans, giving
Americans more flexibility to choose plans that suit their needs.
Expanded Health Reimbursement Arrangements, allowing millions of
Americans to be able to shop for a plan of their choice on the
individual market, and then have their employer cover the cost.
Added 2,100 new Medicare Advantage plan options since 2017, a 76
percent increase.
Lowered Medicare Advantage premiums by 34 percent nationwide to the
lowest level in 14 years. Medicare health plan premium savings for
beneficiaries have totaled $nearly 1.5 billion since 2017.
Improved access to tax-free health savings accounts for individuals
with chronic conditions.
Eliminated costly Obamacare taxes, including the health insurance
tax, the medical device tax, and the “Cadillac tax.”
Worked with states to create more flexibility and relief from
oppressive Obamacare regulations, including reinsurance waivers to help
lower premiums.
Released legislative principles to end surprise medical billing.
Finalized requirements for unprecedented price transparency from
hospitals and insurance companies so patients know what the cost is
before they receive care.
Took action to require that hospitals make the prices they negotiate
with insurers publicly available and easily accessible online.
Improved patients access to their health data by penalizing
hospitals and causing clinicians to lose their incentive payments if
they do not comply.
Expanded access to telehealth, especially in rural and underserved
communities.
Increased Medicare payments to rural hospitals to stem a decade of
rising closures and deliver enhanced access to care in rural areas.

Issued unprecedented reforms that dramatically lowered the price of
prescription drugs.

Lowered drug prices for the first time in 51 years.
Launched an initiative to stop global freeloading in the drug
market.
Finalized a rule to allow the importation of prescription drugs from
Canada.
Finalized the Most Favored Nation Rule to ensure that pharmaceutical
companies offer the same discounts to the United States as they do to
other nations, resulting in an estimated $85 billion in savings over
seven years and $30 billion in out-of-pocket costs alone.
Proposed a rule requiring federally funded health centers to pass
drug company discounts on insulin and Epi-Pens directly to patients.
Ended the gag clauses that prevented pharmacists from informing
patients about the best prices for the medications they need.
Ended the costly kickbacks to middlemen and ensured that patients
directly benefit from available discounts at the pharmacy counter,
saving Americans up to 30 percent on brand name pharmaceuticals.
Enhanced Part D plans to provide many seniors with Medicare access
to a broad set of insulins at a maximum $35 copay for a month’s supply
of each type of insulin.
Reduced Medicare Part D prescription drug premiums, saving
beneficiaries nearly $2 billion in premium costs since 2017.
Ended the Unapproved Drugs Initiative, which provided market
exclusivity to generic drugs.

Promoted research and innovation in healthcare to ensure that American
patients have access to the best treatment in the world.

Signed first-ever executive order to affirm that it is the official
policy of the United States Government to protect patients with
pre-existing conditions.
Passed Right To Try to give terminally ill patients access to
lifesaving cures.
Signed an executive order to fight kidney disease with more
transplants and better treatment.
Signed into law a $1 billion increase in funding for critical
Alzheimer’s research.
Accelerated medical breakthroughs in genetic treatments for Sickle
Cell disease.
Finalized the interoperability rules that will give American
patients access to their electronic health records on their phones.
Initiated an effort to provide $500 million over the next decade to
improve pediatric cancer research.
Launched a campaign to end the HIV/AIDS epidemic in America in the
next decade.
Started a program to provide the HIV prevention drug PrEP to
uninsured patients for free.
Signed an executive order and awarded new development contracts to
modernize the influenza vaccine.

Protected our Nation’s seniors by safeguarding and strengthening
Medicare.

Updated the way Medicare pays for innovative medical products to
ensure beneficiaries have access to the latest innovation and treatment.
Reduced improper payments for Medicare an estimated $15 billion
since 2016 protecting taxpayer dollars and leading to less fraud, waste,
and abuse.
Took rapid action to combat antimicrobial resistance and secure
access to life-saving new antibiotic drugs for American seniors, by
removing several financial disincentives and setting policies to reduce
inappropriate use.
Launched new online tools, including eMedicare, Blue Button 2.0, and
Care Compare, to help seniors see what is covered, compare costs,
streamline data, and compare tools available on Medicare.gov.
Provided new Medicare Advantage supplemental benefits, including
modifications to help keep seniors safe in their homes, respite care for
caregivers, non-opioid pain management alternatives like therapeutic
massages, transportation, and more in-home support services and
assistance.
Protected Medicare beneficiaries by removing Social Security numbers
from all Medicare cards, a project completed ahead of schedule.
Unleashed unprecedented transparency in Medicare and Medicaid data
to spur research and innovation.

Remaking the Federal Judiciary

Appointed a historic number of Federal judges who will interpret the
Constitution as written.

Nominated and confirmed over 230 Federal judges.
Confirmed 54 judges to the United States Courts of Appeals, making
up nearly a third of the entire appellate bench.
Filled all Court of Appeals vacancies for the first time in four
decades.
Flipped the Second, Third, and Eleventh Circuits from
Democrat-appointed majorities to Republican-appointed majorities. And
dramatically reshaped the long-liberal Ninth Circuit.

Appointed three Supreme Court justices, expanding its
conservative-appointed majority to 6-3.

Appointed Justice Neil Gorsuch to replace Justice Antonin Scalia.
Appointed Justice Brett Kavanaugh to replace Justice Anthony
Kennedy.
Appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett to replace Justice Ruth Bader
Ginsburg.

Achieving a Secure Border

Secured the Southern Border of the United States.

Built over 400 miles of the world’s most robust and advanced border
wall.
Illegal crossings have plummeted over 87 percent where the wall has
been constructed.
Deployed nearly 5,000 troops to the Southern border. In addition,
Mexico deployed tens of thousands of their own soldiers and national
guardsmen to secure their side of the US-Mexico border.
Ended the dangerous practice of Catch-and-Release, which means that
instead of aliens getting released into the United States pending future
hearings never to be seen again, they are detained pending removal, and
then ultimately returned to their home countries.
Entered into three historic asylum cooperation agreements with
Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala to stop asylum fraud and resettle
illegal migrants in third-party nations pending their asylum
applications.
Entered into a historic partnership with Mexico, referred to as the
“Migrant Protection Protocols,” to safely return asylum-seekers to
Mexico while awaiting hearings in the United States.

Fully enforced the immigration laws of the United States.

Signed an executive order to strip discretionary Federal grant
funding from deadly sanctuary cities.
Fully enforced and implemented statutorily authorized “expedited
removal” of illegal aliens.
The Department of Justice prosecuted a record-breaking number of
immigration-related crimes.
Used Section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) to
reduce the number of aliens coming from countries whose governments
refuse to accept their nationals who were ordered removed from the
United States.

Ended asylum fraud, shut down human smuggling traffickers, and solved
the humanitarian crisis across the Western Hemisphere.

Suspended, via regulation, asylum for aliens who had skipped
previous countries where they were eligible for asylum but opted to
“forum shop” and continue to the United States.
Safeguarded migrant families, and protected migrant safety, by
promulgating new regulations under the Flores Settlement Agreement.
Proposed regulations to end the practice of giving free work permits
to illegal aliens lodging meritless asylum claims.
Issued “internal relocation” guidance.
Cross-trained United States Border Patrol agents to conduct credible
fear screenings alongside USCIS (United States Citizenship and
Immigration Services) adjudication personnel to reduce massive backlogs.
Streamlined and expedited the asylum hearing process through both
the Prompt Asylum Claim Review (PACR) and the Humanitarian Asylum Review
Process (HARP).
Launched the Family Fraud Initiative to identify hundreds of
individuals who were fraudulently presenting themselves as family units
at the border, oftentimes with trafficking children, in order to ensure
child welfare.
Improved screening in countries with high overstay rates and reduced
visa overstay rates in many of these countries.
Removed bureaucratic constraints on United States consular officers
that reduced their ability to appropriately vet visa applicants.
Worked with Mexico and other regional partners to dismantle the
human smuggling networks in our hemisphere that profit from human misery
and fuel the border crisis by exploiting vulnerable populations.

Secured our Nation’s immigration system against criminals and
terrorists.

Instituted national security travel bans to keep out terrorists,
jihadists, and violent extremists, and implemented a uniform security
and information-sharing baseline all nations must meet in order for
their nationals to be able to travel to, and emigrate to, the United
States.
Suspended refugee resettlement from the world’s most dangerous and
terror-afflicted regions.
Rebalanced refugee assistance to focus on overseas resettlement and
burden-sharing.
85 percent reduction in refugee resettlement.
Overhauled badly-broken refugee security screening process.
Required the Department of State to consult with states and
localities as part of the Federal government’s refugee resettlement
process.
Issued strict sanctions on countries that have failed to take back
their own nationals.
Established the National Vetting Center, which is the most advanced
and comprehensive visa screening system anywhere in the world.

Protected American workers and taxpayers.

Issued a comprehensive “public charge” regulation to ensure
newcomers to the United States are financially self-sufficient and not
reliant on welfare.
Created an enforcement mechanism for sponsor repayment and deeming,
to ensure that people who are presenting themselves as sponsors are
actually responsible for sponsor obligations.
Issued regulations to combat the horrendous practice of “birth
tourism.”
Issued a rule with the Department of Housing and Urban Development
(HUD) to make illegal aliens ineligible for public housing.
Issued directives requiring Federal agencies to hire United States
workers first and prioritizing the hiring of United States workers
wherever possible.
Suspended the entry of low-wage workers that threaten American jobs.
Finalized new H-1B regulations to permanently end the displacement
of United States workers and modify the administrative tools that are
required for H-1B visa issuance.
Defended United States sovereignty by withdrawing from the United
Nations’ Global Compact on Migration.
Suspended Employment Authorization Documents for aliens who arrive
illegally between ports of entry and are ordered removed from the United
States.
Restored integrity to the use of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) by
strictly adhering to the statutory conditions required for TPS.

Restoring American Leadership Abroad

Restored America’s leadership in the world and successfully negotiated
to ensure our allies pay their fair share for our military protection.

Secured a $400 billion increase in defense spending from NATO (North
Atlantic Treaty Organization) allies by 2024, and the number of members
meeting their minimum obligations more than doubled.
Credited by Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg for strengthening
NATO.
Worked to reform and streamline the United Nations (UN) and reduced
spending by $1.3 billion.
Allies, including Japan and the Republic of Korea, committed to
increase burden-sharing.
Protected our Second Amendment rights by announcing the United
States will never ratify the UN Arms Trade Treaty.
Returned 56 hostages and detainees from more than 24 countries.
Worked to advance a free and open Indo-Pacific region, promoting new
investments and expanding American partnerships.

Advanced peace through strength.

Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Nuclear Deal and imposed
crippling sanctions on the Iranian Regime.
Conducted vigorous enforcement on all sanctions to bring Iran’s oil
exports to zero and deny the regime its principal source of revenue.
First president to meet with a leader of North Korea and the first
sitting president to cross the demilitarized zone into North Korea.
Maintained a maximum pressure campaign and enforced tough sanctions
on North Korea while negotiating de-nuclearization, the release of
American hostages, and the return of the remains of American heroes.
Brokered economic normalization between Serbia and Kosovo,
bolstering peace in the Balkans.
Signed the Honk Kong Autonomy Act and ended the United States’
preferential treatment with Hong Kong to hold China accountable for its
infringement on the autonomy of Hong Kong.
Led allied efforts to defeat the Chinese Communist Party’s efforts
to control the international telecommunications system.

Renewed our cherished friendship and alliance with Israel and took
historic action to promote peace in the Middle East.

Recognized Jerusalem as the true capital of Israel and quickly moved
the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Acknowledged Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights and
declared that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are not inconsistent
with international law.
Removed the United States from the United Nations Human Rights
Council due to the group’s blatant anti-Israel bias.
Brokered historic peace agreements between Israel and Arab-Muslim
countries, including the United Arab Emirates, the Kingdom of Bahrain,
and Sudan.
In addition, the United States negotiated a normalization agreement
between Israel and Morocco, and recognized Moroccan Sovereignty over the
entire Western Sahara, a position with long standing bipartisan support.
Brokered a deal for Kosovo to normalize ties and establish
diplomatic relations with Israel.
Announced that Serbia would move its embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
First American president to address an assembly of leaders from more
than 50 Muslim nations, and reach an agreement to fight terrorism in all
its forms.
Established the Etidal Center to combat terrorism in the Middle East
in conjunction with the Saudi Arabian Government.
Announced the Vision for Peace Political Plan – a two-state solution
that resolves the risks of Palestinian statehood to Israel’s security,
and the first time Israel has agreed to a map and a Palestinian state.
Released an economic plan to empower the Palestinian people and
enhance Palestinian governance through historic private investment.

Stood up against Communism and Socialism in the Western Hemisphere.

Reversed the previous Administration’s disastrous Cuba policy,
canceling the sellout deal with the Communist Castro dictatorship.
Pledged not to lift sanctions until all political prisoners are
freed; freedoms of assembly and expression are respected; all political
parties are legalized; and free elections are scheduled.
Enacted a new policy aimed at preventing American dollars from
funding the Cuban regime, including stricter travel restrictions and
restrictions on the importation of Cuban alcohol and tobacco.
Implemented a cap on remittances to Cuba.
Enabled Americans to file lawsuits against persons and entities that
traffic in property confiscated by the Cuban regime.
First world leader to recognize Juan Guaido as the Interim President
of Venezuela and led a diplomatic coalition against the Socialist
Dictator of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro.
Blocked all property of the Venezuelan Government in the
jurisdiction of the United States.
Cut off the financial resources of the Maduro regime and sanctioned
key sectors of the Venezuelan economy exploited by the regime.
Brought criminal charges against Nicolas Maduro for his
narco-terrorism.
Imposed stiff sanctions on the Ortega regime in Nicaragua.
Joined together with Mexico and Canada in a successful bid to host
the 2026 FIFA World Cup, with 60 matches to be held in the United
States.
Won bid to host the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles, California.

Colossal Rebuilding of the Military

Rebuilt the military and created the Sixth Branch, the United States
Space Force.

Completely rebuilt the United States military with over $2.2
trillion in defense spending, including $738 billion for 2020.
Secured three pay raises for our service members and their families,
including the largest raise in a decade.
Established the Space Force, the first new branch of the United
States Armed Forces since 1947.
Modernized and recapitalized our nuclear forces and missile defenses
to ensure they continue to serve as a strong deterrent.
Upgraded our cyber defenses by elevating the Cyber Command into a
major warfighting command and by reducing burdensome procedural
restrictions on cyber operations.
Vetoed the FY21 National Defense Authorization Act, which failed to
protect our national security, disrespected the history of our veterans
and military, and contradicted our efforts to put America first.

Defeated terrorists, held leaders accountable for malign actions, and
bolstered peace around the world.

Defeated 100 percent of ISIS’ territorial caliphate in Iraq and
Syria.
Freed nearly 8 million civilians from ISIS’ bloodthirsty control,
and liberated Mosul, Raqqa, and the final ISIS foothold of Baghuz.
Killed the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and eliminated the
world’s top terrorist, Qasem Soleimani.
Created the Terrorist Financing Targeting Center (TFTC) in
partnership between the United States and its Gulf partners to combat
extremist ideology and threats, and target terrorist financial networks,
including over 60 terrorist individuals and entities spanning the globe.
Twice took decisive military action against the Assad regime in
Syria for the barbaric use of chemical weapons against innocent
civilians, including a successful 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles strike.
Authorized sanctions against bad actors tied to Syria’s chemical
weapons program.
Negotiated an extended ceasefire with Turkey in northeast Syria.

Addressed gaps in American’s defense-industrial base, providing
much-needed updates to improve the safety of our country.

Protected America’s defense-industrial base, directing the first
whole-of-government assessment of our manufacturing and defense supply
chains since the 1950s.
Took decisive steps to secure our information and communications
technology and services supply chain, including unsafe mobile
applications.
Completed several multi-year nuclear material removal campaigns,
securing over 1,000 kilograms of highly enriched uranium and
significantly reducing global nuclear threats.
Signed an executive order directing Federal agencies to work
together to diminish the capability of foreign adversaries to target our
critical electric infrastructure.
Established a whole-of-government strategy addressing the threat
posed by China’s malign efforts targeting the United States
taxpayer-funded research and development ecosystem.
Advanced missile defense capabilities and regional alliances.
Bolstered the ability of our allies and partners to defend
themselves through the sale of aid and military equipment.
Signed the largest arms deal ever, worth nearly $110 billion, with
Saudi Arabia.

Serving and Protecting Our Veterans

Reformed the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to improve care,
choice, and employee accountability.

Signed and implemented the VA Mission Act, which made permanent
Veterans CHOICE, revolutionized the VA community care system, and
delivered quality care closer to home for Veterans.
The number of Veterans who say they trust VA services has increased
19 percent to a record 91 percent, an all-time high.
Offered same-day emergency mental health care at every VA medical
facility, and secured $9.5 billion for mental health services in 2020.
Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017, which
ensured that veterans could continue to see the doctor of their choice
and wouldn’t have to wait for care.
During the Trump Administration, millions of veterans have been able
to choose a private doctor in their communities.
Expanded Veterans’ ability to access telehealth services, including
through the “Anywhere to Anywhere” VA healthcare initiative leading to a
1000 percent increase in usage during COVID-19.
Signed the Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower
Protection Act and removed thousands of VA workers who failed to give
our Vets the care they have so richly deserve.
Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act of
2017 and improved the efficiency of the VA, setting record numbers of
appeals decisions.
Modernized medical records to begin a seamless transition from the
Department of Defense to the VA.
Launched a new tool that provides Veterans with online access to
average wait times and quality-of-care data.
The promised White House VA Hotline has fielded hundreds of
thousands of calls.
Formed the PREVENTS Task Force to fight the tragedy of Veteran
suicide.

Decreased veteran homelessness, improved education benefits, and
achieved record-low veteran unemployment.

Signed and implemented the Forever GI Bill, allowing Veterans to use
their benefits to get an education at any point in their lives.
Eliminated every penny of Federal student loan debt owed by American
veterans who are completely and permanently disabled.
Compared to 2009, 49 percent fewer veterans experienced homelessness
nationwide during 2019.
Signed and implemented the HAVEN Act to ensure that Veterans who’ve
declared bankruptcy don’t lose their disability payments.
Helped hundreds of thousands of military service members make the
transition from the military to the civilian workforce, and developed
programs to support the employment of military spouses.
Placed nearly 40,000 homeless veterans into employment through the
Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program.
Placed over 600,000 veterans into employment through American Job
Center services.
Enrolled over 500,000 transitioning service members in over 20,000
Department of Labor employment workshops.
Signed an executive order to help Veterans transition seamlessly
into the United States Merchant Marine.

Making Communities Safer

Signed into law landmark criminal justice reform.

Signed the bipartisan First Step Act into law, the first landmark
criminal justice reform legislation ever passed to reduce recidivism and
help former inmates successfully rejoin society.
Promoted second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity
to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.
Launched a new “Ready to Work” initiative to help connect employers
directly with former prisoners.
Awarded $2.2 million to states to expand the use of fidelity bonds,
which underwrite companies that hire former prisoners.
Reversed decades-old ban on Second Chance Pell programs to provide
postsecondary education to individuals who are incarcerated expand their
skills and better succeed in the workforce upon re-entry.
Awarded over $333 million in Department of Labor grants to
nonprofits and local and state governments for reentry projects focused
on career development services for justice-involved youth and adults who
were formerly incarcerated.

Unprecedented support for law-enforcement.

In 2019, violent crime fell for the third consecutive year.
Since 2016, the violent crime rate has declined over 5 percent and
the murder rate has decreased by over 7 percent.
Launched Operation Legend to combat a surge of violent crime in
cities, resulting in more than 5,500 arrests.
Deployed the National Guard and Federal law enforcement to Kenosha
to stop violence and restore public safety.
Provided $1 million to Kenosha law enforcement, nearly $4 million to
support small businesses in Kenosha, and provided over $41 million to
support law enforcement to the state of Wisconsin.
Deployed Federal agents to save the courthouse in Portland from
rioters.
Signed an executive order outlining ten-year prison sentences for
destroying Federal property and monuments.
Directed the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and
prosecute Federal offenses related to ongoing violence.
DOJ provided nearly $400 million for new law enforcement hiring.
Endorsed by the 355,000 members of the Fraternal Order of Police.
Revitalized Project Safe Neighborhoods, which brings together
Federal, state, local, and tribal law enforcement officials to develop
solutions to violent crime.
Improved first-responder communications by deploying the FirstNet
National Public Safety Broadband Network, which serves more than 12,000
public safety agencies across the Nation.
Established a new commission to evaluate best practices for
recruiting, training, and supporting law enforcement officers.
Signed the Safe Policing for Safe Communities executive order to
incentive local police department reforms in line with law and order.
Made hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of surplus military
equipment available to local law enforcement.
Signed an executive order to help prevent violence against law
enforcement officers.
Secured permanent funding for the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund for
first responders.

Implemented strong measures to stem hate crimes, gun violence, and human
trafficking.

Signed an executive order making clear that Title VI of the Civil
Rights Act of 1964 applies to discrimination rooted in anti-Semitism.
Launched a centralized website to educate the public about hate
crimes and encourage reporting.
Signed the Fix NICS Act to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous
criminals.
Signed the STOP School Violence Act and created a Commission on
School Safety to examine ways to make our schools safer.
Launched the Foster Youth to Independence initiative to prevent and
end homelessness among young adults under the age of 25 who are in, or
have recently left, the foster care system.
Signed the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act, which
tightened criteria for whether countries are meeting standards for
eliminating trafficking.
Established a task force to help combat the tragedy of missing or
murdered Native American women and girls.
Prioritized fighting for the voiceless and ending the scourge of
human trafficking across the Nation, through a whole of government back
by legislation, executive action, and engagement with key industries.
Created the first-ever White House position focused solely on
combating human trafficking.

Cherishing Life and Religious Liberty

Steadfastly supported the sanctity of every human life and worked
tirelessly to prevent government funding of abortion.

Reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy, ensuring that
taxpayer money is not used to fund abortion globally.
Issued a rule preventing Title X taxpayer funding from subsiding the
abortion industry.
Supported legislation to end late-term abortions.
Cut all funding to the United Nations population fund due to the
fund’s support for coercive abortion and forced sterilization.
Signed legislation overturning the previous administration’s
regulation that prohibited states from defunding abortion facilities as
part of their family planning programs.
Fully enforced the requirement that taxpayer dollars do not support
abortion coverage in Obamacare exchange plans.
Stopped the Federal funding of fetal tissue research.
Worked to protect healthcare entities and individuals’ conscience
rights – ensuring that no medical professional is forced to participate
in an abortion in violation of their beliefs.
Issued an executive order reinforcing requirement that all hospitals
in the United States provide medical treatment or an emergency transfer
for infants who are in need of emergency medical care—regardless of
prematurity or disability.
Led a coalition of countries to sign the Geneva Consensus
Declaration, declaring that there is no international right to abortion
and committing to protecting women’s health.
First president in history to attend the March for Life.

Stood up for religious liberty in the United States and around the
world.

Protected the conscience rights of doctors, nurses, teachers, and
groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor.
First president to convene a meeting at the United Nations to end
religious persecution.
Established the White House Faith and Opportunity Initiative.
Stopped the Johnson Amendment from interfering with pastors’ right
to speak their minds.
Reversed the previous administration’s policy that prevented the
government from providing disaster relief to religious organizations.
Protected faith-based adoption and foster care providers, ensuring
they can continue to serve their communities while following the
teachings of their faith.
Reduced burdensome barriers to ensure Native Americans are free to
keep spiritually and culturally significant eagle feathers found on
their tribal lands.
Took action to ensure Federal employees can take paid time off work
to observe religious holy days.
Signed legislation to assist religious and ethnic groups targeted by
ISIS for mass murder and genocide in Syria and Iraq.
Directed American assistance toward persecuted communities,
including through faith-based programs.
Launched the International Religious Freedom Alliance – the
first-ever alliance devoted to confronting religious persecution around
the world.
Appointed a Special Envoy to monitor and combat anti-Semitism.
Imposed restrictions on certain Chinese officials, internal security
units, and companies for their complicity in the persecution of Uighur
Muslims in Xinjiang.
Issued an executive order to protect and promote religious freedom
around the world.

Safeguarding the Environment

Took strong action to protect the environment and ensure clean air and
clean water.

Took action to protect vulnerable Americans from being exposed to
lead and copper in drinking water and finalized a rule protecting
children from lead-based paint hazards.
Invested over $38 billion in clean water infrastructure.
In 2019, America achieved the largest decline in carbon emissions of
any country on earth. Since withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord,
the United States has reduced carbon emissions more than any nation.
American levels of particulate matter – one of the main measures of
air pollution – are approximately five times lower than the global
average.
Between 2017 and 2019, the air became 7 percent cleaner – indicated
by a steep drop in the combined emissions of criteria pollutants.
Led the world in greenhouse gas emissions reductions, having cut
energy-related CO2 emissions by 12 percent from 2005 to 2018 while the
rest of the world increased emissions by 24 percent.
In FY 2019 the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) cleaned up more
major pollution sites than any year in nearly two decades.
The EPA delivered $300 million in Brownfields grants directly to
communities most in need including investment in 118 Opportunity Zones.
Placed a moratorium on offshore drilling off the coasts of Georgia,
North Carolina, South Carolina, and Florida.
Restored public access to Federal land at Bears Ears National
Monument and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.
Recovered more endangered or threatened species than any other
administration in its first term.

Secured agreements and signed legislation to protect the environment and
preserve our Nation’s abundant national resources.

The USMCA guarantees the strongest environmental protections of any
trade agreement in history.
Signed the Save Our Seas Act to protect our environment from foreign
nations that litter our oceans with debris and developed the first-ever
Federal strategic plan to address marine litter.
Signed the Great American Outdoors Act, securing the single largest
investment in America’s National Parks and public lands in history.
Signed the largest public lands legislation in a decade, designating
1.3 million new acres of wilderness.
Signed a historic executive order promoting much more active forest
management to prevent catastrophic wildfires.
Opened and expanded access to over 4 million acres of public lands
for hunting and fishing.
Joined the One Trillion Trees Initiative to plant, conserve, and
restore trees in America and around the world.
Delivered infrastructure upgrades and investments for numerous
projects, including over half a billion dollars to fix the Herbert
Hoover Dike and expanding funding for Everglades restoration by 55
percent.

Expanding Educational Opportunity

Fought tirelessly to give every American access to the best possible
education.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act expanded School Choice, allowing parents
to use up to $10,000 from a 529 education savings account to cover K-12
tuition costs at the public, private, or religious school of their
choice.
Launched a new pro-American lesson plan for students called the 1776
Commission to promote patriotic education.
Prohibited the teaching of Critical Race Theory in the Federal
government.
Established the National Garden of American Heroes, a vast outdoor
park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans to ever
live.
Called on Congress to pass the Education Freedom Scholarships and
Opportunity Act to expand education options for 1 million students of
all economic backgrounds.
Signed legislation reauthorizing the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship
program.
Issued updated guidance making clear that the First Amendment right
to Free Exercise of Religion does not end at the door to a public
school.

Took action to promote technical education.

Signed into law the Strengthening Career and Technical Education for
the 21st Century Act, which provides over 13 million students with
high-quality vocational education and extends more than $1.3 billion
each year to states for critical workforce development programs.
Signed the INSPIRE Act which encouraged NASA to have more women and
girls participate in STEM and seek careers in aerospace.
Allocated no less than $200 million each year in grants to
prioritize women and minorities in STEM and computer science education.

Drastically reformed and modernized our educational system to restore
local control and promote fairness.

Restored state and local control of education by faithfully
implementing the Every Student Succeeds Act.
Signed an executive order that ensures public universities protect
First Amendment rights or they will risk losing funding, addresses
student debt by requiring colleges to share a portion of the financial
risk, and increases transparency by requiring universities to disclose
information about the value of potential educational programs.
Issued a rule strengthening Title IX protections for survivors of
sexual misconduct in schools, and that – for the first time in history –
codifies that sexual harassment is prohibited under Title IX.
Negotiated historic bipartisan agreement on new higher education
rules to increase innovation and lower costs by reforming accreditation,
state authorization, distance education, competency-based education,
credit hour, religious liberty, and TEACH Grants.

Prioritized support for Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

Moved the Federal Historically Black Colleges and Universities
(HBCU) Initiative back to the White House.
Signed into law the FUTURE Act, making permanent $255 million in
annual funding for HBCUs and increasing funding for the Federal Pell
Grant program.
Signed legislation that included more than $100 million for
scholarships, research, and centers of excellence at HBCU land-grant
institutions.
Fully forgave $322 million in disaster loans to four HBCUs in 2018,
so they could fully focus on educating their students.
Enabled faith-based HBCUs to enjoy equal access to Federal support.

Combatting the Opioid Crisis

Brought unprecedented attention and support to combat the opioid crisis.

Declared the opioid crisis a nationwide public health emergency.
Secured a record $6 billion in new funding to combat the opioid
epidemic.
Signed the SUPPORT for Patients and Communities Act, the
largest-ever legislative effort to address a drug crisis in our Nation’s
history.
Launched the Initiative to Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply
and Demand in order to confront the many causes fueling the drug crisis.
The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) awarded a record
$9 billion in grants to expand access to prevention, treatment, and
recovery services to States and local communities.
Passed the CRIB Act, allowing Medicaid to help mothers and their
babies who are born physically dependent on opioids by covering their
care in residential pediatric recovery facilities.
Distributed $1 billion in grants for addiction prevention and
treatment.
Announced a Safer Prescriber Plan that seeks to decrease the amount
of opioids prescriptions filled in America by one third within three
years.
Reduced the total amount of opioids prescriptions filled in America.
Expanded access to medication-assisted treatment and life-saving
Naloxone.
Launched FindTreatment.gov, a tool to find help for substance abuse.
Drug overdose deaths fell nationwide in 2018 for the first time in
nearly three decades.
Launched the Drug-Impaired Driving Initiative to work with local law
enforcement and the driving public at large to increase awareness.
Launched a nationwide public ad campaign on youth opioid abuse that
reached 58 percent of young adults in America.
Since 2016, there has been a nearly 40 percent increase in the
number of Americans receiving medication-assisted treatment.
Approved 29 state Medicaid demonstrations to improve access to
opioid use disorder treatment, including new flexibility to cover
inpatient and residential treatment.
Approved nearly $200 million in grants to address the opioid crisis
in severely affected communities and to reintegrate workers in recovery
back into the workforce.

Took action to seize illegal drugs and punish those preying on innocent
Americans.

In FY 2019, ICE HSI seized 12,466 pounds of opioids including 3,688
pounds of fentanyl, an increase of 35 percent from FY 2018.
Seized tens of thousands of kilograms of heroin and thousands of
kilograms of fentanyl since 2017.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecuted more fentanyl traffickers
than ever before, dismantled 3,000 drug trafficking organizations, and
seized enough fentanyl to kill 105,000 Americans.
DOJ charged more than 65 defendants collectively responsible for
distributing over 45 million opioid pills.
Brought kingpin designations against traffickers operating in China,
India, Mexico, and more who have played a role in the epidemic in
America.
Indicted major Chinese drug traffickers for distributing fentanyl in
the U.S for the first time ever, and convinced China to enact strict
regulations to control the production and sale of fentanyl.

[rbowman]

On 06/01/2021 08:09 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 6/1/2021 9:53 AM, rbowman wrote:
>
>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5228857/A-10-year-old-drag-queen-founded-drag-club-kids.html
>
>
>
> So you're from Brooklyn...

Yeah, sure. We have a Manhattan but it's the sort of place where a drag
queen might get hung from a barbed wire fence.

[rbowman]

> Real news sources offer retractions.
>
> Breitbart is not a news site.
>


Your 'news sources' offer retractions right after they become the
laughingstocks of the world. Until then they keep on lying.

[rbowman]

I was 4 years old in first grade. I don't think 'vulva' was in my
vocabulary.

[Snit]

You call them mine. Why?

I use many sources.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

[RonB]

It's not really in my vocabulary now, at 65. Since the human race continues
to repopulate (and has been doing so for a few thousand years before
perverts started pushing sex education), I'm guessing teachers really don't
need to teach on this subject. Somehow my wife and I managed to figure it
out and had six kids along the way together. All this without sex education.
Weird, huh?

--
Gates couldn't get viruses out of his own OS for
30 years — now he wants to rewrite our DNA
-----------------
Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life.
—President Trump

[Snit]

On Jun 1, 2021 at 10:36:49 PM MST, "RonB" <ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I was 4 years old in first grade. I don't think 'vulva' was in my
>> vocabulary.
>
> It's not really in my vocabulary now, at 65. Since the human race continues
> to repopulate (and has been doing so for a few thousand years before
> perverts started pushing sex education), I'm guessing teachers really don't
> need to teach on this subject. Somehow my wife and I managed to figure it
> out and had six kids along the way together. All this without sex education.
> Weird, huh?

I am against abortion... and hence like comprehensive sex ed which has been
shown to reduce the numbers.

I do not get the all-too-common pro-abortion stance of conservatives.

[chrisv]

pothead wrote:

>chrisv wrote:
>
>>pothead wrote:
>>
>>>You're an idiot if you give away something so some conglomerate like
>>>Google makes a fortune off of it.
>>
>>GPL'ed software is not "given away", idiot.
>>

>>Google contributes back, idiot. Learn how to read and think.
>>

>>FFS, don't you know that you're stupid? Don't you know that you being
>>so fscking *wrong* about FOSS *proves* that you're a fscking idiot?
>>
>>Sheesh!
>
> (snipped, unread)

What's more likely? That all the people, and corporations, that
release software under that GPL are "idiots", or that "pothead" is a
*fscking idiot*?

Documented proof that "pothead" is a *fscking idiot*.

His response will be deleted, unread. It's the "logic" of a fscking
*dipshit* who, for some unknown reason, thinks that he's "smart".

[Joel]

Interesting point. I'm pro-choice, but I agree to the extent that
abortion should be as rare as possible, ideally. Thus, sex ed which
includes information about preventing unwanted pregnancy is a good
thing.

--
Joel Crump