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vallor

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Apr 12, 2015, 12:14:52 AM4/12/15
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Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?

http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html

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Marti van Lin

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Apr 12, 2015, 6:46:28 AM4/12/15
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Op 12-04-15 om 06:14 schreef vallor:

> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>
> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html

Yes, I used it for a while, but prefer Simple Screen Recorder, which is
also covered in the parent article.

A matter of personal preferences.

Greetings,

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Chris Ahlstrom

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Apr 12, 2015, 7:06:39 AM4/12/15
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Slimer

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Apr 12, 2015, 11:26:48 AM4/12/15
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On 2015-04-12 12:14 AM, vallor wrote:
> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>
> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html

FINALLY! Linux has one! Maybe Snit can try it out so that the
long-lasting discussion about Linux's lack of screencasting software can
finally be closed.

It's too bad that Peter the Klöwn was too much of an asshole to mention
the existence of this program.


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Slimer

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Apr 12, 2015, 11:27:57 AM4/12/15
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On 2015-04-12 6:46 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
> Op 12-04-15 om 06:14 schreef vallor:
>
>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>
>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>
> Yes, I used it for a while, but prefer Simple Screen Recorder, which is
> also covered in the parent article.
>
> A matter of personal preferences.
>
> Greetings,

You'll note that vokoscreen is a screen*CASTER* whereas Simple Screen
Recorder is a screen *RECORDER*. At least, I hope that it is.

Marti van Lin

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Apr 13, 2015, 3:39:02 AM4/13/15
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Op 12-04-15 om 17:27 schreef Slimer:

> On 2015-04-12 6:46 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
>> Op 12-04-15 om 06:14 schreef vallor:
>>
>>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>>
>> Yes, I used it for a while, but prefer Simple Screen Recorder, which is
>> also covered in the parent article.
>>
>> A matter of personal preferences.
>>
>> Greetings,
>
> You'll note that vokoscreen is a screen*CASTER* whereas Simple Screen
> Recorder is a screen *RECORDER*. At least, I hope that it is.

And what exactly is the difference?

With both programs you are able to create videos from your desktop
sessions, only Simple Screen Recorder has more advanced options then
Vokoscreen.

+ support for multiple sound input channels;
+ support for more video output formats/codecs;
+ support for OpenGL content.

- support for zooming, simply configure the windowsmanager key shortcuts
for that task.

Marti van Lin

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Apr 13, 2015, 3:49:06 AM4/13/15
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Op 12-04-15 om 17:26 schreef Slimer:

> On 2015-04-12 12:14 AM, vallor wrote:
>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>
>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>
> FINALLY! Linux has one! Maybe Snit can try it out so that the
> long-lasting discussion about Linux's lack of screencasting software can
> finally be closed.

Linux has plenty of screencasting software for quite some time, yet Snit
simply ignored them.

> It's too bad that Peter the Klöwn was too much of an asshole to mention
> the existence of this program.

I suggest Peter Köhlmann simply didn't bother with Snit's whining in
that regard.

chrisv

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Apr 13, 2015, 8:18:39 AM4/13/15
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Hehe. Funny.

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Slimer

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Apr 13, 2015, 8:56:55 AM4/13/15
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On 2015-04-13 3:38 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
> Op 12-04-15 om 17:27 schreef Slimer:
>
>> On 2015-04-12 6:46 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
>>> Op 12-04-15 om 06:14 schreef vallor:
>>>
>>>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>>>
>>> Yes, I used it for a while, but prefer Simple Screen Recorder, which is
>>> also covered in the parent article.
>>>
>>> A matter of personal preferences.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>
>> You'll note that vokoscreen is a screen*CASTER* whereas Simple Screen
>> Recorder is a screen *RECORDER*. At least, I hope that it is.
>
> And what exactly is the difference?
>
> With both programs you are able to create videos from your desktop
> sessions, only Simple Screen Recorder has more advanced options then
> Vokoscreen.
>
> + support for multiple sound input channels;
> + support for more video output formats/codecs;
> + support for OpenGL content.
>
> - support for zooming, simply configure the windowsmanager key shortcuts
> for that task.

I don't know much about screencasting to be honest, but I assume that
the "casting" suffix indicates that you don't record the desktop as much
as you project the desktop elsewhere. If the program can't do that, it's
not much of a screencaster.

Of course, Snit is the expert here and would be a lot better than me at
explaining this.


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John Gohde

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Apr 13, 2015, 9:13:22 AM4/13/15
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On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:26:48 AM UTC-4, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-04-12 12:14 AM, vallor wrote:
> > Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
> >
> > http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>
> FINALLY! Linux has one! Maybe Snit can try it out so that the
> long-lasting discussion about Linux's lack of screencasting software can
> finally be closed.
>
> It's too bad that Peter the Klöwn was too much of an asshole to mention
> the existence of this program.


Hello Fruitcake:

If you have Mint, at least, there is no secret here. since vokoscreen is part of the standard repository. Now, I have both vokoscreen and simplescreenrecorder installed.

My how Slimer just loves to advertise his mental illness by constantly babbling to Snit.

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Snit

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Apr 13, 2015, 10:56:15 AM4/13/15
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On 4/13/15, 5:56 AM, in article mggecs$q7f$4...@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
Technically I do not think there is really much of a difference between the
terms "screencasting" and "screen recording", but most people who do a lot
of screencasting differentiate the two.

Screen recording programs record the screen. That is about it. They might
have some options to select a window / rectangle or the full screen or even
to show or hide the cursor in *pre* production, but not much else.

More advanced software allows you to record not just the screen but also
your self with a webcam, and more importantly, to make more decisions *post*
production. Being able to zoom into a specific window, show or hide the
cursor, show or not show clicks, show or hide keystrokes, things like that.

It is these types of things a separate video editor cannot do (unless you
get a video format you can share which includes separate channels for the
mouse (and knows when it was clicked), for keystrokes, and for each window
(or at least a different one for the front window). As far as I know, no
open format does this.


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Snit

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Apr 13, 2015, 11:10:57 AM4/13/15
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On 4/13/15, 12:49 AM, in article mgfsdh$od$1...@news.albasani.net, "Marti van
Lin" <ml2...@nospam.indvalid> wrote:

> Op 12-04-15 om 17:26 schreef Slimer:
>
>> On 2015-04-12 12:14 AM, vallor wrote:
>>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>>
>> FINALLY! Linux has one! Maybe Snit can try it out so that the
>> long-lasting discussion about Linux's lack of screencasting software can
>> finally be closed.
>
> Linux has plenty of screencasting software for quite some time, yet Snit
> simply ignored them.

Linux has plenty of software to do screen recording... but no real
screencasting suite where you can, in post-production:

* Showing mouse clicks with inversion, ripples, etc.
* Hide or replace the mouse image
* Showing keystrokes when wanted, with options for which ones to show
* Selecting a window to enlarge or to blur (or blur background)
* Cropping to a window
* Sound controls specifically focused on voice

>> It's too bad that Peter the Klöwn was too much of an asshole to mention
>> the existence of this program.
>
> I suggest Peter Köhlmann simply didn't bother with Snit's whining in
> that regard.



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vallor

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Apr 13, 2015, 6:17:02 PM4/13/15
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On 04/13/2015 12:49 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
> Op 12-04-15 om 17:26 schreef Slimer:
>
>> On 2015-04-12 12:14 AM, vallor wrote:
>>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>>
>> FINALLY! Linux has one! Maybe Snit can try it out so that the
>> long-lasting discussion about Linux's lack of screencasting software can
>> finally be closed.
>
> Linux has plenty of screencasting software for quite some time, yet Snit
> simply ignored them.
>
>> It's too bad that Peter the Klöwn was too much of an asshole to mention
>> the existence of this program.
>
> I suggest Peter Köhlmann simply didn't bother with Snit's whining in
> that regard.
>

It's not worth the effort to respond to "Snit" with any kind of Linux
screencasting or screen recording software, because he'll always find
fault with it.

Having said all that -- for streaming ("casting") through twitch.tv,
obs-studio for Linux has worked well for me. Shame that it's not in
general repositories yet.

Nice, though, that there is an Ubuntu ppa:

https://launchpad.net/~obsproject/+archive/ubuntu/obs-studio

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Slimer

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Apr 13, 2015, 7:12:24 PM4/13/15
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I have to admit that I would have had a lot of trouble believing that
Linux didn't have ANYTHING for this particular task. If anything, I've
found that the operating system has apps available for every imaginable
function, more so than Windows, but that the applications aren't
necessarily very good. I'm glad to know that Linux users indeed have
options.



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Snit

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Apr 13, 2015, 7:57:48 PM4/13/15
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On 4/13/15, 3:17 PM, in article
552c405d$0$56539$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
<val...@cultnix.org> wrote:

> On 04/13/2015 12:49 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
>> Op 12-04-15 om 17:26 schreef Slimer:
>>
>>> On 2015-04-12 12:14 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>> Anybody have any experience with vokoscreen? Is it worth trying?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20131102172922796/vokoscreen.html
>>>
>>> FINALLY! Linux has one! Maybe Snit can try it out so that the
>>> long-lasting discussion about Linux's lack of screencasting software can
>>> finally be closed.
>>
>> Linux has plenty of screencasting software for quite some time, yet Snit
>> simply ignored them.
>>
>>> It's too bad that Peter the Klöwn was too much of an asshole to mention
>>> the existence of this program.
>>
>> I suggest Peter Köhlmann simply didn't bother with Snit's whining in
>> that regard.
>>
>
> It's not worth the effort to respond to "Snit" with any kind of Linux
> screencasting or screen recording software, because he'll always find
> fault with it.

Linux has nothing beyond fairly simple screen recorders.

Nothing that allows, in post production:

* Showing mouse clicks with inversion, ripples, etc.
* Hide or replace the mouse image
* Showing keystrokes when wanted, with options for which ones to show
* Selecting a window to enlarge or to blur (or blur background)
* Cropping to a window
* Sound controls specifically focused on voice

If you can show me I am wrong and that there is a product or suite that does
a good subset of that I would love to see it. Sure, I might note areas of
growth I would like to see or whatever, but even something close would be
impressive.

The OS X tool that does that certainly has its quirks. It is not like it is
perfect.

> Having said all that -- for streaming ("casting") through twitch.tv,
> obs-studio for Linux has worked well for me. Shame that it's not in
> general repositories yet.
>
> Nice, though, that there is an Ubuntu ppa:
>
> https://launchpad.net/~obsproject/+archive/ubuntu/obs-studio

I will download it and play. I see they have an OS X flavor... am
downloading now. Thanks.

Snit

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Apr 13, 2015, 8:47:23 PM4/13/15
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On 4/13/15, 3:17 PM, in article
552c405d$0$56539$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
<val...@cultnix.org> wrote:

> It's not worth the effort to respond to "Snit" with any kind of Linux
> screencasting or screen recording software, because he'll always find
> fault with it.
>
> Having said all that -- for streaming ("casting") through twitch.tv,
> obs-studio for Linux has worked well for me. Shame that it's not in
> general repositories yet.
>
> Nice, though, that there is an Ubuntu ppa:
>
> https://launchpad.net/~obsproject/+archive/ubuntu/obs-studio

Assuming it works as advertised, it seems a decent screen recorder... but
not the type of screencasting tool I keep hoping to see on Linux.
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