FreeDOS and Breadbox Ensemble/GEOS
Hans Lindgren
I have posted this information also as an answer to Doug Taylor, but it
might be interesting to a broader range of people, so I repost it under
a more approriate subject line.
Well, installing FreeDOS and Ensemble is not easy, I will give you my
experiences below and hopefully from that you can make your own
FreeDOS/Ensemble combo. I have an idea of making a FreeDOS bootdisk from
which you can set up a system from scratch, for the moment that does not
seems possible. If you have any comments or corrections, please post it
here!
First I downloaded the latest version on FreeDOS, which was Beta9,
prerelease 5 and created a bootdisk. Then I booted my PC with that
bootdisk, and tried to create a partition, which failed, as the Fdisk
tool from FreeDOS did not recognize my disk. Used Windows 98 SE Fdisk to
partitioning the disk with a FAT32 partition and it went well. Formatted
the disk with FreeDOS Format, which recognized the FAT32 format and
added the system files with the /S -switch. Rebooted the system, but it
did not appear stable. Removed the partition and created a new FAT 16
partition with my PCDOS 7 and formatted with PCDOS 7s Format. Booted
the FreeDOS system and added the system to the hard disk with the SYS
command on the diskette. Now the system appeared stable.
Configured the system and added the drivers for CD-ROM from the disk.
Tried to install BBX Ensemble 4.01, but no go. Ran into new problems.
After investigations, it appeared to be several problems at the same
time. First, the CD-ROM support in FreeDOS does not seems to be stable,
ATAPICDD.SYS and SHSUCDX.EXE. Going back to my old Mitsumi driver solved
that problem, and then secondly it seems that Sun2000 have made an
installation script that smells MS-Windows to me? It asks for the
COMSPEC parameters in the form of %COMSPEC% and I get out of memory
errors, dos critical error, script errors, when I tried to install.
Tried my NDO2000beta and it did install without any problem, and so did
also my NDO2000 diskette copy.
Solved this problem, by making an Ensemble installation on my Windows
computer and burned it to a CD-ROM, and then copied into my FreeDOS
computer. Then I added DOS ODI network support and configured BBX
Ensemble for TCP/IP networkning. Now it is up and running!
Next I will present my config.sys and autoexec.bat in FreeDOS, together
with the necessary changes to GEOS.INI
config.sys:
FILES=120
BUFFERS=20
LASTDRIVE=Z
SWITCHES=/F /N
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\DRIVER\HIMEM.EXE
DEVICE=C:\DRIVER\UMBPCI.SYS
SHELLHIGH=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:1024 /F /MSG /K C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVER\MTMCDAI.SYS /D:CD01
autoexec.bat:
@ECHO OFF
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
PATH=C:\;C:\FREEDOS;C:\DRIVER;C:\ENSEMBLE
C:\DRIVER\CTMOUSE
LH C:\DRIVER\LSL
LH C:\DRIVER\DM9PCI
LH C:\DRIVER\SHSUCDX /D:CD01
C:\ENSEMBLE\ENSEMBLE.BAT
Necessary changes to GEOS.INI:
[system]
fs = ntfat.geo
PrimaryFSD = ntfat.geo
The EMM386.EXE in FreeDOS is not compatible with ENSEMBLE/GEOS, as a
substitute I use the UMBPCI from: http://www.uwe-sieber.de. This is not
a EMS driver, it is more of a UMB-loader which loads drivers inte upper
memory blocks, but still very useful in this configuration.
BR,
Hans
Dominique Vocat
well as you can see from the headers this is written under NewDeal :-).
Anyway, I'm just testing the freedos diskette from Hans and it works *smooth*.
Imagine, it is only 400k used on the floppy :-) and it has checkdisk and
fdisk and edit etc etc... cd-driver etc... very nice. and runs faaast.
Way to go. A few tweaks and a automatized partitioning and voila, no more
need for dos :-) or anything on a new/old pc.
Dom
MeyerK
Dom Dom Dom, when I see your old enthusiasm sparkle up again, my hands
start to get nervous, too... don't want to become an GeoAddict again,
sigh... "no no no MeyerK, take your hands off that SDK CD, do yourself
a favor..." :-)))
Bye,
MeyerK
Edward Nijs
Let yourself go! Don't fight it.
You have at least 1 fan! I'd bet I'm not alone.
Edward
"MeyerK" <Konstant...@gmx.de> schreef in bericht
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Dominique Vocat
> Come on Konstantin,
>
> Let yourself go! Don't fight it.
> You have at least 1 fan! I'd bet I'm not alone.
>
> Edward
no need to dig out the SDK (then again a newbasic component wrapping up
the creation of a arbitraryly sized bitmap and drawing to it and passing
it's content to a gadget component would be great :-) so I could redo
"fighter" with doubble buffered smooth graphics :-) ) but please all do
test the newdos diskette. There is much potential in it and Hans is a
very solid maintainer so get the suggestions rolling!
Dom
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MeyerK
> Come on Konstantin,
>
> Let yourself go! Don't fight it.
> You have at least 1 fan! I'd bet I'm not alone.
>
> Edward
Thanks Edward. Maybe, if you promise me free biscuits for every day of
the rest of my life, I could be seduced... :-))
Bye,
MeyerK
Dominique Vocat
in order to get it to run with opendos it must have fs=ntfat and
primaryfsd=ntfat in the geos.ini
now I seem to have the problem that when I use the fileselector in
newbasic I always get a kr-09 when I access the property .path
can anyone reproduce this? (there is a sample with newbasic builder in
called filesel.bas)
Dom
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Hans Lindgren
Check to see if there are any settings in NET.CFG you have to set
for the NIC. Something that would have any impact on the current
mode of the NIC.
It is just a hip shot, I don't know anything specific, other than that
I recall on 3com cards that there was a pipeline mode needed to
be set, otherwise there was no go for GEOS ;-)
BR,
Hans
Thomas L. Christensen
<dominique_._vocat_@_gmx_._de> wrote:
Hi Dom
>can anyone reproduce this? (there is a sample with newbasic builder in
>called filesel.bas)
>
Send me the file and I'll see if it also crash here.
Thomas
Dominique Vocat
> Send me the file and I'll see if it also crash here.
in your documents folder see in NewBASIC\src\Tests\filesel.bas
anyway... I think I just build my own filebrowse dialog. Maybe I build
it as a .bc module so everyone can use it? It's more comfortable anyway
for I would like to show the tokens of the file etc... :-)
erm, the issue with the fileselector seems to bethe good old issue I
cannot remember how I worked arround it anyhow so... ah well...
> Thomas
Dom
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Thomas L. Christensen
<dominique_._vocat_@_gmx_._de> wrote:
>Thomas L. Christensen wrote:
>> Send me the file and I'll see if it also crash here.
>
>in your documents folder see in NewBASIC\src\Tests\filesel.bas
>
I don't have a file with that name. I have one named fileslct.bas -
could it be the one?
Dominique Vocat
> I don't have a file with that name. I have one named fileslct.bas -
> could it be the one?
erm, yes :-)
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