Breadbox Ensemble Internet Problems
Thomas L. Christensen
I have received Breadbox Ensemble. Wow, it looks cool, but I
can't really enjoy it at the moment, because only 4 out of 6
internet apps works. I have had an email dialog with support at
sun2000, but so far we haven't found a solution. Maybe you guys
can help?
I connect to internet via the ODI driver. The internet settings
is setup correct - they must be, because I can connect using the
FTP program, Mail, Instant Messenger and News just fine.
Only problem is WebMagic and Chat. They both say "check your
internet settings" and refuse to connect.
Also, if I click the Connect button in "Dial-up and Configure"
the status is being reported as disconnected. Even if I click the
button while downloading from FTP it say disconnected.
I have absolutly no idea absolutly what could be wrong. I hope
some of you can help.
Hardware:
IBM Thinkpad 360C (486/25MHz, 36MB RAM)
3COM Etherlink III (3c589D-COMBO)
Cisco 678 ADSL Router (gateway)
Software:
MS-DOS 6.22
QEMM (have also tried without, no change)
3c589.com, lsl.com
BBE 4.01 with patch one (have also tried without, no change)
I have copied a geos.ini file to the end of this message - maybe
some of you can see if anything wrong
Thomas
Professional nerd
======================
[system]
serialnumber = [...]
fs = ms4.geo
continueSetup = false
version = 4.010
handles = 3500
setupMode = 0
fontid = berkeley
fontsize = 12
drive b = 0
editableTextFontID = Esquire
[diskswap]
size = 4096
[accpnt]
prevID = 2
active1 = 2
contents = {
00020001
00010001
}
[accesspoint0001]
name = hidden internet accesspoint
[ui]
specific = isui.geo
sound = true
haveEnvironmentApp = false
fontid = Esquire
fontsize = 12
editableTextFontID = Esquire
editableTextFontsize = 12
deleteStateFilesAfterCrash = true
noMailbox = true
productName = Breadbox Ensemble
backgroundcolor = 3
execOnStartup = SysTray Clock
specname = Industry Standard
[motif options]
taskBarAutoHide = false
buttonInvertDelay = 6
activetitlebarcolor = 1
[task driver]
driver = Non-Switching Task Driver
device = No Task-Switcher
[fileManager]
features = 1
startupDrivesLocation = 0
filenameTokens = {
*.EXE = "gDOS",0
*.COM = "gDOS",0
*.BAT = "gDOS",0
*.TXT = "FILE",0,"TeEd",0
*.GIF = "FILE",0,"GrVr",16431
*.JPG = "FILE",0,"GrVr",16431
*.JPE = "FILE",0,"GrVr",16431
*.JPEG = "FILE",0,"GrVr",16431
*.BMP = "FILE",0,"GrVr",16431
*.CSV = "GCDa",0,"GCAL",0
*.WKS = "GCDa",0,"GCAL",0
*.HTM = "GLOB",5,"WMK3",16431
*.HTML = "GLOB",5,"WMK3",16431
*.URL = "GLOB",5,"WMK3",16431
*.ZIP = "ZIPP",5,"GZip",16431
* = "FILE",0,"TeEd",0
}
[text]
autoCheckSelections = true
[prefmgr]
features = 65280
[socket]
domains = {
tcpip
tcpip_geos
loopback
}
driverCloseDelay = 0
LoadOnMsg = {
CDAB00000800060016000100loopback000700MBTRANS\\Socket Receive
CDAB00000A00060016000100tcpip_geos000700MBTRANS\\Socket Receive
CDAB00000500060016000100irlap000700MBTRANS\\Socket Receive
CDAB0C000500060016000100tcpip000700MBTRANS\\Socket Receive
}
[resolver]
sbelt = {}
cacheSize = 100
errorCount = 0
[tcpip]
driver = TCP/IP Driver
driverType = 0
link = ODI Ethernet Driver
linkDomain = EtherODI
port = 2
[ppp]
portDriver = Serial Driver
debug = 0
port = 2
baud = 2
idialToken = IDIA
predictor = 0
dns = TRUE
rtscts = TRUE
[services]
modemInit = ATZ
dialtone = ATX1
[login applications]
Manual = 5445524d0000
[idialup]
internetapplications = {
bbxbrow,
newsread,
bbxchat,
ftpc,
bim,
bbxmail
}
showDetails = false
[extURL]
apps = {
mailto bbxm,0
mailread bbxm,0 3
chat irc3,16431
dialer IDIA,0
}
[mimeDoc]
fileTypes = {
audio/x-wav WAV WVPL,17
audio/wav WAV WVPL,17
}
useLongname = FALSE
[screen 0]
device = VGA: 640x480 16-color
driver = vga.geo
[mouse]
info = 0
driver = IBM PS/2 Mouse
device = Logitech PS/2 Mouse
[keyboard]
driver = kbd.geo
device = U.S. Keyboard
[heapspace]
heapSpaceLimitsEnforced = false
[klondike]
fadeCards = false
noShowTips = true
[sound]
synthDriver=sblaster.geo
sampleDriver=sblaster.geo
volume = 40
balance = 50
[parallel]
port 1 = 1
[spool]
uiOptions = 2048
[uiFeatures]
defaultLauncher = ISDesk
altEditKeys = true
noFSDrive = CDEF
expressOptions = 4041
docControlOptions = 0
launchOptions = 32768
launchModel = 2
launchLevle = 3
windowOptions = 0
helpOptions = 0
[uiFeatures - advanced]
defaultLauncher = GeoManager
docControlOptions = 12640
docControlFSLevel = 3
interfaceLevel = 1
interfaceOptions = 49152
launchLevel = 0
documentControl = 03000000FF1300001100
displayControl = 03000000020000000200
chartGroup = 01000400000000000000
grObjTool = 03000000020000000200
viewControl = 03000000200000000800
GrObjAreaAttr = 030000006F0100006F01
[expressMenuControl]
runningAppSubMenu = true
otherAppSubMenu = false
runSubMenu = true
forceSmallIcons = false
[PCtrl]
FS = {
.breadbox.com
}
[HTMLView]
settings = 14
browserID = ,Netscape
home = http://www.breadbox.com
mimeDrivers = {
Breadbox Graphics Imp Library,image/gif,GIF
Breadbox Graphics Imp Library,image/jpeg,JPG
Breadbox Doc Import Library,audio/x-wav,WAV
Breadbox Doc Import Library,audio/wav,WAV
}
urlDrivers = {
Breadbox External URL Driver,mailto
Breadbox External URL Driver,mailread
Breadbox External URL Driver,chat
Breadbox External URL Driver,dialer
Breadbox FTP URL Driver,FTP
Breadbox HTTP URL Driver,HTTP
Breadbox HTTP URL Driver,HTTPS
}
weakCacheExpiration = true
altSrcCacheExts = jpg gif wav
srcCacheLimit = 8192
altSrcCacheLimit = 8192
objCacheLimit = 4096
altObjCacheLimit = 2048
memlimit = 4000
version = 302
viewControlExtra = 64000070
htmlSettings = 32774
tvBW = 0
loadGraphics = 65535
WWWProxy = {}
toggleBarsAUI = 3
[Banker]
CheckPrinting = true
;adds check sizes to std page sizes dialog box
[paper]
newSizes = {
paper128
paper129
}
count = 2
order =
029,031,024,020,027,016,044,017,041,040,043,049,052,057,039,047,028,022,030,038,128,129,
[paper128]
width = 612
height = 252
layout = 8
name = Std/Ledger Check
[paper129]
width = 612
height = 205
layout = 8
name = Wallet Check
[Lights Out]
usenet = false
[preflvl]
resetAppCategories = {
write
geocalc
geodraw
address book
calendar
}
[My Modem]
baudRate = 57600
parity = none
wordLength = 8
stopBits = 1
handshake = none
stopRemote = rts
stopLocal = cts
port = COM2
toneDial = true
[modem]
numberOfModems = 1
modems = My Modem
[media]
com2 = 03000000
[bbxmail]
clnOnCrash = false
toolbars = 58492
rfont = 555
rsize = 12
cfont = 555
csize = 12
[input]
blinkingCursor = true
rebootOnReset = true
[configure]
helpEditor = false
[chat]
canSlash = true
[accessPoint0002]
useDialingOptions = 1
promptSecret = 1
localDialingOptions = 0
ipaddr = 192.168.1.11
ipgate = 192.168.1.1
ipmask = 255.255.255.0
dns1 = 212.242.40.3
dns2 = 212.242.40.51
name = Cybercity
netType = 1
default = 1
===========================
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Thomas L. Christensen - Svendborg, Denmark
John Howard
We at Breadbox have not tested Ensemble's internet connectivity on anything
other than dial-up connections. And I do know that all the Ensemble 4.01 (patch
1) internet apps do work properly using a dial-up connection.
So I'm guessing that the problem is somewhere in your EtherLink/router setup.
But beyobd that you're way beyond my areas of expertise. Hopefully someone here
has done some experiments with ethernet cards and routers.
John ;-)
Thomas L. Christensen
Thomas L. Christensen wrote:
>
> I connect to internet via the ODI driver. The internet settings
> is setup correct - they must be, because I can connect using the
> FTP program, Mail, Instant Messenger and News just fine.
>
> Only problem is WebMagic and Chat. They both say "check your
> internet settings" and refuse to connect.
Update - I copied WebChat from NDO 3.2A to BBE and tried to start it - it
runs fine. I just don't get it.... What's so special about WebMagic and Chat?
Thomas L. Christensen
Dominique Vocat
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> We at Breadbox have not tested Ensemble's internet connectivity on anything
> other than dial-up connections. And I do know that all the Ensemble 4.01 (patch
> 1) internet apps do work properly using a dial-up connection.
>
> So I'm guessing that the problem is somewhere in your EtherLink/router setup.
> But beyobd that you're way beyond my areas of expertise. Hopefully someone here
> has done some experiments with ethernet cards and routers.
>
> John ;-)
Hi John and all,
I can relate to that... I have noticed some issues with Name resolving
(DNS) too... often I owuld only get a connection after trying twice of
more for the same name till it would resolve the address form the name
successfully... there is always a lenghty wait involved and so I could
imagine there might be an issue in timing that the result maybe comming
much too quick from the DNS for the stack to take advantage of it and
thus waiting till the timeout.
I was quite unhappy about it since I did some development on some
internet apps under geos :-) which cost me nerves and I just left it at
that... (if anyone is interested it's a telnet client and a rsd/rdf/rss
client).
Hope this helps...
Dominique
--
Aruskipasipxañanakasakipunirakïspawa
Holger Laux
<dominiq...@gmx.de> wrote:
>I can relate to that... I have noticed some issues with Name resolving
>(DNS) too... often I owuld only get a connection after trying twice of
>more for the same name till it would resolve the address form the name
>successfully... there is always a lenghty wait involved and so I could
>imagine there might be an issue in timing that the result maybe comming
>much too quick from the DNS for the stack to take advantage of it and
>thus waiting till the timeout.
>
>I was quite unhappy about it since I did some development on some
>internet apps under geos :-) which cost me nerves and I just left it at
>that... (if anyone is interested it's a telnet client and a rsd/rdf/rss
>client).
Interesting:
One year ago, I set up a machine with a 33.6 modem and NDO beta 4.20
which run just fine then.
It was never really used. When I tried it again a couple of moths ago,
it reported "Your connection was interupted while trying to connect."
(or something to this effect). This happens with several different
modems and several ISPs. Only my external 56k modem is working.
I can only guess that this has something to do with the way ISPs are
offering their connection.
Your explanation sounds reasonable. Is there any way the "fast" info
can be cached until the machine is ready?
BTW, yes, I am interested in your Telnet client.
Holger
Bent Nielsen
Dominique Vocat skrev:
>
> I was quite unhappy about it since I did some development on some
> internet apps under geos :-) which cost me nerves and I just left it at
> that... (if anyone is interested it's a telnet client and a rsd/rdf/rss
> client).
All new opdate ore new software ti geos is good news.
Yes a telnet a very fine tools to, then i can havde remote to all server
via tcp and telnet.
> Hope this helps...
>
> Dominique
> --
> Aruskipasipxaņanakasakipunirakīspawa
--
Mvh.
Bent Nielsen
Hans Lindgren
Start WebMagick. Let WebMagick load the error message. When finished loaded, hit the
Reload button. What happens now?
Hans
Hans Lindgren
The only issues that arises is when installing, there is a little bit of hand tweaking needed, but
now I know what to do, so that is usually no problem. I have noticed that it is important when
using a broadband switch like NetGear RP314GE to fill-in all the IP-numbers properly, as the
router both serve as a DNS and IP GW, I have to fill in 192.168.0.1 in both fields. I do 100 megabit on my LAN.
Hans
Thomas L. Christensen
Thomas L. Christensen wrote:
>
> > Only problem is WebMagic and Chat. They both say "check your
> > internet settings" and refuse to connect.
>
> Update - I copied WebChat from NDO 3.2A to BBE and tried to start it -
it
> runs fine. I just don't get it.... What's so special about WebMagic and
Chat?
>
One more upddate - problem is solved! Thanks to Bent Nielsen!!!
Well, when setting up an ODI account you will have to enter a telephone
number and login name also. You can only do that if you, when setting up
the ODI account,
1. temporary switch to "Dial-up ISP",
2. enter the phone number and login name
3. and then switch back to "ODI Network".
Click Connect and you will get a dialogbox saying you'll have to reboot.
After reboot everything works.
The hard way to do the same is to add
phone = 12345678
to geos.ini (login name is only nessesary when using the GUI) That's apparently
the line WebMagic and Chat was looking for and the reason why they wouldn't
connect.
Bob
GEOS idiot proof if one is not using dial-up, which is quickly becoming
standard.
--
Peace,
Bob
"Thomas L. Christensen" <t...@MAILget2net.dk> wrote in message
news:NewsReader.1.0.2...@news.cybercity.dk...
Thomas L. Christensen
>We at Breadbox have not tested Ensemble's internet connectivity on anything
>other than dial-up connections.
Hmm... I can't help getting a little afraid of that sentence.
What else haven't you tested? Okay, I understand you only have
limited resources and have to make priorities. But you have made
a fine new dial-up app, and then you only test half of its
functionality? I can't wait to see what surprises you have to me
in next version... :-)
Edward Di Geronimo Jr.
> Only problem is WebMagic and Chat. They both say "check your
> internet settings" and refuse to connect.
Do you need a proxy? That might explain WebMagick, not sure on chat.
> Also, if I click the Connect button in "Dial-up and Configure"
> the status is being reported as disconnected. Even if I click the
> button while downloading from FTP it say disconnected.
Ignore Dial-up and Configure when using Ethernet.
> linkDomain = EtherODI
Try changing this to:
linkDomain = ODI Ethernet
I never figured out what that did, but that's what mine is set to. May or
may not make a difference.
Ed
Thomas L. Christensen
Edward Di Geronimo Jr. wrote:
> Do you need a proxy? That might explain WebMagick, not sure on chat.
I don't think so. I am pretty shure the problem is the line
phone = 12345678
in geos.ini. Add this line and both programs work, remove it and they fail.
It is not added when you set up an "ODI network" account in Dial-up and Configure
- and why should it? Heck, it's only a minor bug - it should be easy to fix
now it is identified. The other apps works fine, so I'm sure WebMagic and
Chat will do so soon also.
>
> Try changing this to:
> linkDomain = ODI Ethernet
>
> I never figured out what that did, but that's what mine is set to. May
or
> may not make a difference.
It makes no difference at all. In fact, you can comment out that line (well,
at least I can on my setup in BBE 4.01)
Dominique Vocat
> fill-in all the
> IP-numbers properly, as the
> router both serve as a DNS and IP GW, I have to fill in 192.168.0.1 in
> both fields.
Thanks Hans for the hint but I feel that this is not the issue at my
place :-)
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Aruskipasipxañanakasakipunirakïspawa
Dominique Vocat
> All new opdate ore new software ti geos is good news.
>
> Yes a telnet a very fine tools to, then i can havde remote to all server
> via tcp and telnet.
Um, maybe I can mail the current state of affairs :-) pending permision
form Konstantin to include the preliminary version of the tcp/ip
components for NewBasic. I could imagine that both aps work fairly well
over a dial-up line...
Which gives me an idea... I finally have a small phonecentral or PBX or
whatever it is called in english so I could test without phonecosts
arrising :-). Pity my new Job is eating so much of my time :-( though it
is an interesting job :-). The real point might be that working on an
app or a month or two is not soo much fun if you do't use it yourself
and there is maybe one or two in the world who'd use it :-)...
Dom
--
Aruskipasipxaņanakasakipunirakīspawa
Hans Lindgren
app. To get everything working, one needs to set it up as a dail-up connection first, with ALL
the fields filled in, with phone number, username and login (yes, this is vital to do, even with
ODI network) Then restart BBX Ensemble. Switch from Dial-UP to ODI network radio button
in Dialup and configure. Try to connect now, it should work, if not, restart and try again.
I have also noted on one occasion that WebMagick shows an error message the first time started
not finding the ISP or something like that. This seems to be a cache problem, and is fixed by
pressing the reload button.
BR,
Hans
Jens-Michael Gross
> Try changing this to:
> linkDomain = ODI Ethernet
>
> I never figured out what that did, but that's what mine is set to. May or
> may not make a difference.
Well, if YOU say that ... :)
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they are not.