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Nathanael

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Sep 8, 2011, 10:36:35 PM9/8/11
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I've now got a domain and switched the site over to its permanent home
last night, so I guess it's time for the official announcement:

The *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Software Archives are now online at http://www.cpmarchives.org/.

The Archives are intended as a repository for CP/M software, and my
lofty goal is to host or link to all CP/M software that's still
available. Currently, I'm hosting mirrors of the following:

The Walnut Creek CD-ROM
The OAK Repository CP/M Collection
WUArchives CP/M Collection
SIMTEL-20 CP/M Collection
Gene Buckel's Retro-Computing Archive
Tim Olmstead's Unofficial CP/M Website
Demon Archives
Funet.fi
ZNode 51
John Elliot's Homepage
Tom Scherrer's Home of the Z80 CPU
Update.uu.ee Rainbow Collection
The CP/M-86Software Repository
Hal Bower's Homepage
CB Falconer's Homepage

I have additions in the works.

If any proprietors of the above don't wish their sites mirrored,
please let me know and I'll be happy to remove the mirror.

Everything is available in both online browseable and downloadable ISO
format (My ISP says I have unlimited disk space; let's see if they
really mean it).

Acknowledgements: Piergiorgio Betti, whose site is both a model and
occasionally a source for mine. Henk Siewert, Danilo Coccia, Mike
Finn, Peter Dassow and everyone else who provided feedback and
criticism.

Issues: the live-boot feature of my CP/M-Live! image is currently not
compatible with SATA CD/DVD-ROM drives. I'm working on it. In the
meanwhile, it can still be copied to and run from a hard drive.

Still cleaning up style issues on some pages.

Broken links: I *think* I've found them all, but what do I know?

Any other bug/problems/issues/sundry are undoubtedly a figment of your
imagination :-) But all feedback is welcome, anyway.

--Nathanael
The *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Software Archives
www.cpmarchives.org

Nathanael

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Sep 8, 2011, 10:41:43 PM9/8/11
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Peter,

Thanks for the pointer to GCDROM.SYS. I spent some time trying to pull
the FreeDOS 1.1 beta install CD apart last night, but between GRUB4DOS
and the -- well, let's just say "untidy" -- FDCONFIG.SYS and
FDAUTO.BAT, it's been sucking up more time than I'd hoped. Maybe
GCDROM.SYS will be a bit more straightforward.

--Nathanael

David Griffith

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Sep 9, 2011, 3:53:12 AM9/9/11
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Nathanael <cjec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've now got a domain and switched the site over to its permanent home
> last night, so I guess it's time for the official announcement:

> The *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Software Archives are now online at http://www.cpmarchives.org/.

> The Archives are intended as a repository for CP/M software, and my
> lofty goal is to host or link to all CP/M software that's still
> available. Currently, I'm hosting mirrors of the following:

Would Rlee Peters' archive be in scope for this project?

--
David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs

Bill Leary

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Sep 9, 2011, 4:53:03 AM9/9/11
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"Nathanael" wrote in message
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> I've now got a domain and switched the site over to its permanent home
> last night, so I guess it's time for the official announcement:
>
> The *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Software Archives are now online at
> http://www.cpmarchives.org/.

Very nice.

The animated text at the top is a nice touch. Except for one problem. When
it fills the available area and starts to display it's last few lines, it
exceeds the space given it and pushes the rest of the page down to make
room. This is a bit distracting but, more, if you happen to be trying to
click on something below it when it moves you end up clicking nothing or
clicking the item above the one you meant to click. Perhaps making your
"cp/m inside" logo bigger would prevent this?

Well, that's a minor nit. I find that I just spent an hour wandering around
there. Very interesting.

Thanks.

- Bill

Nathanael

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Sep 9, 2011, 7:52:06 AM9/9/11
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On Sep 9, 3:53 pm, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
> Would Rlee Peters' archive be in scope for this project?

I should say so. I'm downloading a copy as I type from Piergiorgio's
site. I'll put it up shortly after I finish downloading.

Any recent progress on the Dan Maslin project? Is that online
anywhere? I can put it up, too.

And I WANT one of those extra P112s, when you're ready to take orders
on them.

On Sep 9, 4:53 pm, "Bill Leary" <Bill_Le...@msn.com> wrote:

> The animated text at the top is a nice touch. Except for one problem.

Yeah, I know. Every fix I've tried so far has been problematic. I
could increase the size of the graphic, but the question is how much?
There's tremendous inconsistency in the way various browsers (*cough*
IE *cough*) display graphics and handle sizing, and the answer depends
on the size of the text being used. I'm using @font-face to specify a
web-font for effect but of course only the latest version of IE
supports it; the others fall back to Courier, with a different
pointsize.

What I've done is fixed the DIV height at 200px and set
overflow:hidden. That fixes the problem you've noted, but isn't ideal,
because any excess text just doesn't show. Ideally, I'd like the text
to scroll up and out the top, but there seems to be no good way to do
that. Perhaps there's a javascript solution, but I'm not a js guru.

--Nathanael

Al Kossow

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Sep 9, 2011, 9:59:48 AM9/9/11
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On 9/9/11 4:52 AM, Nathanael wrote:

> Any recent progress on the Dan Maslin project? Is that online
> anywhere? I can put it up, too.
>

Where did you hear that it still existed?

Nathanael

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Sep 9, 2011, 10:13:13 AM9/9/11
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Sorry, I meant the project to recreate Dan Maslin's archives (or as
much of them as possible).

--Nathanael

s100guy

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Sep 9, 2011, 1:01:35 PM9/9/11
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On Sep 9, 7:13 am, Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...<snip> ....
> Sorry, I meant the project to recreate Dan Maslin's archives (or as
> much of them as possible).
>
> --Nathanael

Please .... It's DON Maslin!

Roger


Peter Dassow

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Sep 9, 2011, 2:12:09 PM9/9/11
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His name was Donald Maslin.
Regardless of that, I *really* would appreciate to get his system
diskette archive alive again, but I guess this is not possible:
See comment at http://www.gaby.de/sysdisk.htm

Regards
Peter

David Griffith

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Sep 9, 2011, 3:21:22 PM9/9/11
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Nathanael <cjec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 9, 3:53 pm, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
>> Would Rlee Peters' archive be in scope for this project?

> I should say so. I'm downloading a copy as I type from Piergiorgio's
> site. I'll put it up shortly after I finish downloading.

> Any recent progress on the Dan Maslin project? Is that online
> anywhere? I can put it up, too.

> And I WANT one of those extra P112s, when you're ready to take orders
> on them.

I'm working over a problem in which the V5.1 boot rom doesn't want to
boot CP/M 2.2. So far it looks like I might have to come up with V5.2
or go back to Terry's release. I just got a reply from Hector Peraza
about it and I'll be trying some of his suggestions tonight.

David Griffith

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Sep 9, 2011, 3:30:17 PM9/9/11
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The Bitsavers project is the closest we have to Don's archive. As far
as any of us know, his widow threw the disks out.

Nathanael

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Sep 9, 2011, 4:54:44 PM9/9/11
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On Sep 10, 1:01 am, s100guy <rzh_no...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Please ....  It's DON Maslin!

AACK! So it is. My apologies to Don's memory.

The Rlee Peters collection is going up now (thanks, David and
Piergiorgio). It'll take several hours to finish uploading, but should
be available by the time you see this.

--Nathanael

Bill Leary

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Sep 9, 2011, 6:34:11 PM9/9/11
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"Nathanael" wrote in message
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> On Sep 9, 4:53 pm, "Bill Leary" <Bill_Le...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> The animated text at the top is a nice touch. Except for one problem.
>
> Yeah, I know. Every fix I've tried so far has been problematic. I
> ((..omitted..))
> What I've done is fixed the DIV height at 200px and set
> overflow:hidden. That fixes the problem you've noted, but
> isn't ideal, because any excess text just doesn't show.
> Ideally, I'd like the text to scroll up and out the top, but there
> seems to be no good way to do that. Perhaps there's a
> javascript solution, but I'm not a js guru.

On Opera 11.51 (latest) it still (18:32 East coast USA) pushes the rest of
the page down when it gets to the bottom of it's space.

It would be nice to fix it if you could, but I wouldn't sweat it. It's
low-level annoying, at worst. For sure not enough to keep me away.

- Bill

Nathanael

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Sep 9, 2011, 9:10:10 PM9/9/11
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On Sep 10, 6:34 am, "Bill Leary" <Bill_Le...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Opera 11.51 (latest) it still (18:32 East coast USA) pushes the rest of
> the page down when it gets to the bottom of it's space.

I think the new html hadn't got up yet. It was sitting at the bottom
of Filezilla's transfer queue with the Rlee Peters stuff in line
before it (which Filezilla took around 12 hours to transfer).

It's all up now (as of about 7:30pm CST Fri) and working for me in
Firefox 6 on Kubuntu, so if you still notice an issue with it, it must
be browser-specific (but I'd be greatly surprised; Opera is quite
standards-compliant).

One small caveat with my copy of the Rlee stuff -- a number of files
contain a '%', which either Filezilla or my ISP's ftp server considers
an illegal character and refuses to transfer. So I've zipped up a few
directories and uploaded the ZIPs instead. I would've put them in LBRs
or ARKs, except that there doesn't seem to be a Linux utility that
will create either format. Anyone know of one?

Specifically:

0-9/8INCH/8121.ZIP
U/UC DAVIS/MUMPS.ZIP
M/MICROSOFT/MUMATH MUSIMP/MUMATH.ZIP
M/MORROW/BACKUPS/BOX_A/DB.zip
M/MORROW/BACKUPS/BOX_A/D5.zip
M/MORROW/DEVELOP/BOX-3/D8.zip
M/MORROW/DEVELOP/BOX-4/D3.zip
M/MORROW/DEVELOP/BOX-9/D5.zip

The original Rlee ZIP file, which I downloaded from Piergiorgio's
site, is also available for download on my site. Now if y'all don't
mind I'm going to go spend the next couple of weeks looking through
Rlee's stuff -- wow! what a collection!

--Nathanael

j...@thebattles.net

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Sep 10, 2011, 2:48:55 AM9/10/11
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On Sep 8, 9:36 pm, Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've now got a domain and switched the site over to its permanent home
> last night, so I guess it's time for the official announcement:
>
> The *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Software Archives are now online athttp://www.cpmarchives.org/.

Cool! Thanks for gathering it all.

I tried poking around a bit and many of the files show up in the
browser as if the files have no line endings. I don't think I can
post a direct link, but driling down to the cpmarchives.org mirror of
the Walnut CD, cpm, trs-80, by2psman.asm, it all just wraps around
like mad. I checked a few other files, like the descript.ion file,
and they behave the same way.

In your .htaccess file you may have to indicate which file suffixes
are to be assumed to be plain text, eg

AddType text/plain .asm

Nathanael

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Sep 10, 2011, 3:35:14 AM9/10/11
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On Sep 10, 2:48 pm, "frus...@pacbell.net" <j...@thebattles.net> wrote:

> AddType text/plain .asm

Ah, good catch. I've added

AddType text/plain .asm .txt .z80 .sub .bbs .ion .doc .lst

Anything I missed?

--Nathanael

David Griffith

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Sep 10, 2011, 12:45:15 PM9/10/11
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.diz just in case?

Nathanael

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Sep 10, 2011, 11:13:59 PM9/10/11
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On Sep 11, 12:45 am, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
> Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 10, 2:48 pm, "frus...@pacbell.net" <j...@thebattles.net> wrote:
> >> AddType text/plain .asm
> > Ah, good catch. I've added
> > AddType text/plain .asm .txt .z80 .sub .bbs .ion .doc .lst
> > Anything I missed?
>
> .diz just in case?
>
> --
> David Griffith
> davidmylastn...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs

"Just in case", indeed. 90,000 files and ONE .diz! :-)

--Nathanael

Kenneth Scharf

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Sep 10, 2011, 11:28:26 PM9/10/11
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The 'history of cp/m' link is broken

Axel Berger

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Sep 10, 2011, 8:27:00 PM9/10/11
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David Griffith wrote on Sat, 11-09-10 18:45:

>> AddType text/plain .asm .txt .z80 .sub .bbs .ion .doc .lst
> .diz just in case?

In these cases I prefer application/octet-stream or Content-Disposition:

<FilesMatch "\.(pdf|mp3)$">
Header add Content-Disposition "Attachment"
</FilesMatch>

The first suppresses loading any viewer or other program and forces
saving to disk (for those users unfamiliar with the right mouse key or
those having to copy and paste into the address line).
The second won't display in a browser window and usually brings up a
choice to eiter save or load an appropriate external viewer.

I expect that in just about all cases this will be what is wanted for
all the file types above too.

j...@thebattles.net

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Sep 12, 2011, 1:57:07 PM9/12/11
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These for sure:

.mac (cpm macro assembler source file)
.hex (intel hex file)
.c (c source code)
.pas (pascal source code)
.bas (basic source code)


While poking around, I find a number of text files with different
suffixes, but I am not sure how many of these are one-off, and how
many were somewhat standard.

.mdm
.hlp (help text)
.inf (information)
.a (assembly source)
.par (parameter)
.cfg (terminal configuration)
.do (command script "do" file)
.mod (modula source code)
.not (note)
.msg (message)
.frm (form)

I didn't run into any, but ".PRN" (printer output) was a standard
suffix, and "SUB" was the suffix for the script files processed by the
SUBMIT command.

I wonder if it makes more sense to assume everything is text and then
mark only those suffixes which are associated with binaries. Could
you write a script which crawls your cp/m archive, noting all the
suffixes in use and classifying the files which contain only printable
ASCII characters?

Nathanael

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Sep 12, 2011, 11:06:43 PM9/12/11
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On Sep 13, 1:57 am, "frus...@pacbell.net" <j...@thebattles.net> wrote:

> .mac   (cpm macro assembler source file)
> .hex (intel hex file)
> .c (c source code)
> .pas (pascal source code)
> .bas (basic source code)
> ...

Hmm, I think Axel Berger had a point: it's not so much about
identifying which files are text, but the expected action when a
visitor clicks on one -- display in browser, or download? For myself,
I'd want .bbs .ion .lst .inf .diz (any others?) to display in the
browser, because I'm probably less interested in downloading a file
listing than I am in looking at it. Others I'd probably want to
download. I'm leaning toward this configuration (I've added some of
your suggestons; others seem to be more rare):

AddType text/plain .bbs .ion .lst .inf .diz
AddType Content-
Disposition .asm .txt .z80 .sub .doc .mac .c .pas .bas .mod .cfg .msg

I'm sure there are other opinions on this, as well.

--Nathanael

Nathanael

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Sep 12, 2011, 11:21:41 PM9/12/11
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A few updates to the site:

First, I've added (and removed) a few links from the links page.

Second, I've uploaded my personal collection of CP/M stuff and
audaciously named it the "Nathanael Culver Collection", though
"collection" is a rather bold name for my pile of motley miscellany.
Think of it more like rooting through my attic. A lot of it is
duplicated elsewhere, and I'll be slowly weeding that out. But there
is a (very) small handful of stuff that may actually be of interest to
others.

Second, I'm adding a page dedicated to my first (and, of course, still
sentimentally favorite) CP/M machine, the TRS-80. That page, and a few
mirrored sites, should start appearing in the next 24 hours
(FileZilla's churning as fast as my ISP will allow).

That'll bring the site to 10.3gb, and just short of 100,000 files! My
webhost promises unlimited disk space and bandwidth, but I wonder if
they'll consider this excessive?

--Nathanael

Nathanael

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Sep 16, 2011, 2:19:12 AM9/16/11
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Additions to the *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Software Archives in the past three
days:

Nine Mirrors added:

Dave Brooks' Homepage
Mrynet
Matthew Reed's TRS-80 Emulator Site
8N1
Pete C's TRS-80 Home Page at KJSL
TRS-80 Revived
Tim Mann's Homepage
David Keil's TRS-80 Computer Emulator Pages
Manmrk.net

Total sites mirrored: 28
Total byte count: 10.7gb
Total file count: 108,360

Please allow twelve hours for the new stuff to finishing uploading.

--Nathanael

Nathanael

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Sep 21, 2011, 1:49:23 AM9/21/11
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This week's additions to the *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Archives:

Mirrors
---------
Peter Schorn's SIMH Altair site
YAZE-AG site

TRS-80 Library
--------------------
A *humongous* TRS-80 library:
280 Books - programming and reference books, including Leventhal,
Cortesi and Zaks.
1,000 Magazines - individual issues spread across more than a dozen
publications, including Micro-80, 80 US, CoCo Magazine, Softside, and
even a series of Tandy comic books (but you gotta love the ads. One of
my favorites is the "5 million byte" hard drive for ONLY $3750 - more
than half the price of a new car in 1980).
1300 Manuals - hardware and software manuals for the TRS-80 line.

Much of this library comes from Ira Goldklang's TRS-80 Revived site,
but he has since removed the material.

Clean-up
------------
Cleaned up and reorganized the Nathanael Culver collection; added an
index page so you can find your way around.

Site Stats
----------
Mirrors: 30
Files: 117k
Gigabytes: 26.3

--Nathanael

Gene Buckle

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Sep 21, 2011, 11:02:02 AM9/21/11
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To: Nathanael
Nathanael wrote:
> From Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm
>
> This week's additions to the *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Archives:
>
...and still haven't corrected how my name is spelled. :D

g.

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Nathanael

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Sep 21, 2011, 12:41:50 PM9/21/11
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On Sep 21, 11:02 pm, "Gene Buckle"
<gene.buc...@bbs.retroarchive.org.remove-116a-this> wrote:
>   To: NathanaelNathanael wrote:
> > From Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm
>
> > This week's additions to the *HUMONGOUS* CP/M Archives:
>
> ...and still haven't corrected how my name is spelled. :D

My apologies. I'd seen it spelled both ways and grabbed one, fully
intending to ask, but lost that post-it somewhere. I've made the
change.

Well, now I'm really a horse's ass. Just ran over to Google to prove
I'd seen it spelled the other way and I'll be danged if the ONLY place
"Gene Buckel" and "Retroarchive" comes up is my site.

BTW, did you get the Infocom stuff? I was having trouble getting it
through my email programs. If not, it's on my site at www.cpmarchives.org/INFOCOM.zip

--Nathanael

Gene Buckle

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:49:51 AM9/23/11
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To: Nathanael
Nathanael wrote:
> From Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm
>
> On Sep 21, 11:02pm, "Gene Buckle"

I haven't had the time - I'm up to my neck with the collimated display project
I'm working on. Thanks for making the change. :)

g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.

Tesseract

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Sep 24, 2011, 1:40:11 PM9/24/11
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1980: 5 megabytes for $3750
2011: 500 gigabytes for $37.50 (or thereabouts)

That is 10 million to 1.

Nathanael

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Oct 5, 2011, 1:03:04 AM10/5/11
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On Sep 22, 12:41 am, Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 11:02 pm, "Gene Buckle"

> > ...and still haven't corrected how my name is spelled. :D
>
> My apologies. I'd seen it spelled both ways and grabbed one

a-HA! I knew I wasn't (completely) nuts. I was conflating your name
with BILL Buckels' over at the CP/M 86 and 80 website (http://
www.cpm8680.com). Whew! That's a load off (what remains of) my mind.

--Nathanael

Gene Buckle

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Oct 5, 2011, 12:48:32 PM10/5/11
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To: Nathanael
Nathanael wrote:
> From Newsgroup: comp.os.cpm
>
> On Sep 22, 12:41am, Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 11:02pm, "Gene Buckle"
>> > ...and still haven't corrected how my name is spelled. :D
>>
>> My apologies. I'd seen it spelled both ways and grabbed one
> a-HA! I knew I wasn't (completely) nuts. I was conflating your name
> with BILL Buckels' over at the CP/M 86 and 80 website (http://
> www.cpm8680.com). Whew! That's a load off (what remains of) my mind.

Hey, it's not my fault he can't spell his last name right. :)
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