Walnut Creek ISO
Henk Siewert
For the sake of redundancy, conservation and fun:
an ISO of the Walnut Creek CDROM.
I also scanned the inlay's and the CDROM itself.
You can print the inlays and the CDROM (CD itself or sticker)
so you can make your copy of this icon of the days that CP/M ( and MS-DOS )
were the prime systems for running your computer.
I also scanned the registration card.
(I do not know if sending it will do any good...)
All scans are 300/dpi
I am willing to burn en post CD-ROM's if you are not able to download the
ISO.
I hope you can understand I have to ask some money for burning, packaging
and posting the CD-ROM.
For Europe: 5 Euro.
For rest of the world: 7,50 Euro or 11 US Dollars.
Payment can be made by PayPal
or by sending me the equivalent amount in your country's UNUSED postage
stamps.
(I am an stamp collector. Especially of USA stamps)
Please e-mail me for details and/or my home address.
Above offer is without inlay's or sticker or print on CD.
(I do not have a color printer)
Henk Siewert
Henk Siewert
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Al Kossow
> Hallo,
>
> For the sake of redundancy, conservation and fun:
> an ISO of the Walnut Creek CDROM.
>
Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk!
The one you have has versions of teledisk removed, and has directories dated Jan 31, 1995
The original have directories dated Oct 25, 1994.
here are the only two files that differ in 00-INDEX.TXT
> TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility that can read complete CP/M
> | disks and copy them to a file to be recreated
> | or transmitted.
> TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See
> | Teled210 for complete Manual and
> | documentation.
md5 of original is 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
md5 of 1995 version is faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4
dott.Piergiorgio
> Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk!
>
> The one you have has versions of teledisk removed, and has directories
> dated Jan 31, 1995
> The original have directories dated Oct 25, 1994.
>
> here are the only two files that differ in 00-INDEX.TXT
>
> > TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility that can read complete CP/M
> > | disks and copy them to a file to be recreated
> > | or transmitted.
> > TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See
> > | Teled210 for complete Manual and
> > | documentation.
Interesting... I have looked in my 1994 version, and the archive
contains MSDOS executables.
Perhaps these was removed because of viruses or false positives ? (I'm
inclined for the latter, later I'll try to run those into 1994-5
editions of scan.exe antivirus and eventually report...
Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.
Al Kossow
> Interesting... I have looked in my 1994 version, and the archive contains MSDOS executables.
>
> Perhaps these was removed because of viruses or false positives ? (I'm inclined for the latter, later I'll try to run those into 1994-5 editions of scan.exe antivirus and eventually report...
>
It was probably removed at Sydex's request.
Henk Siewert
I have Teledisk 2.11 and 2.16.
2.16 seems to be designed for usage with 80 track, 720 kByte or 1.2 MByte
drives. Does not work reliable with 40 track drives.
If you are interested I can put them on the site.
Henk Siewert
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Peter Dassow
> I have Teledisk 2.11 and 2.16.
> 2.16 seems to be designed for usage with 80 track, 720 kByte or 1.2 MByte
> drives. Does not work reliable with 40 track drives.
> If you are interested I can put them on the site.
>
TeleDisk was selled by NTI, but now they do not offer it anymore.
They wrote: "TeleDisk is no longer made available for sale"
See also http://www.forensics-intl.com/teledisk.html
Unfortunately this does not automatically mean, that it's not
copyrighted anymore. Putting it on your website is not really a good
idea until you got it confirmed you're allowed to do so.
Regards
Peter
Nathanael
> Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk!
At least. Wasn't there also an October '94 version?
And pbworks.com has a version of the ISO{1} which includes the two
extra files, but otherwise seems identical to Henk's version except
that the ISO size is nearly 10mb smaller.
And of course there's Gene's site{2}. However, unfortunately, all the
original file and dir dates there have been overwritten, and it's been
beefed up with several thousand INDEX.HTML files, so it's not clear
what its relationship is to other versions of the CD-ROM.
I'm trying to put together a master collection of the various CP/M
archives -- Oak, Walnut Creek, WUArchives, SIMTEL-20, etc. but the
snapshots I've got are all from different dates (SIMTEL from '93, the
CD from '94, WUArchives {3} from '96, Oak {4} and SIMTEL from ???).
What's the pedigree here? I know WU was a mirror of Oak. Walnut Creek
was a mirror of what? Was SIMTEL the original site? I'm planning to
put everything up online once I can get this all sorted out, but it's
giving me a headache :-(.
{2} http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/cdrom/
{3} http://replay.waybackmachine.org/19961220131216/http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/
{4} http://replay.waybackmachine.org/19961019011231/http://oak.oakland.edu/
Nathanael Culver
dott.Piergiorgio
> What's the pedigree here? I know WU was a mirror of Oak. Walnut Creek
> was a mirror of what? Was SIMTEL the original site? I'm planning to
> put everything up online once I can get this all sorted out, but it's
> giving me a headache :-(.
From the archives of this very NG (available in the walnut CD in
simtel/archives/cpm) seems that the ur-text internet archive site was
MIT-MC, the librarian being one Frank Wancho. The first recorded
reported upload is of 2 september upload, and the first recorded file
list was posted 12 november 1980, cited below for the curious:
> Here is a short abstract of what is current in CPM:
>
> ASMPAT ASM The UPPER/lower case patch for ASM on CPM 1.4 patched
> BBS NOS The latest list (as of 11/04/80)
> BDOS22 PATCH ASM Patch file for using USER 0 as "system" files
> CP/M AUTO A Babyl file of replies to the AUTO startup query
> CP/M LIST A Babyl file of requests to be added to INFO-CPM
> CPM ARCHIV The INFO-CPM archives
> CPM DOC A re-edit of the two-part msg on CP/M internals
> CRCK HEX Produces 16-bit CRChecksums of files (CRC: 2D 47)
> FAST DOC How to install FAST and SPEED
> FMAP HEX FMAP updated for use under CP/M 2.x (CRC: 1A 2C)
> MAKSUB ASM Source for a SUBMIT-like program, MAKESUB.
> MENU MAC Z80 source fore a working MENU program
> MTN DOC Lastest DOC for MicroTELNET (1.3)
> MTN13 HEX MicroTELNET 1.3, an intelligent terminal program for
> Z80's only (sorry) (CRC: A1 53)
> RSPEED ASM Source for RSPEED (see FAST DOC)
> RSPEED HEX HEX for RSPEED - checks skew factors (CRC: )
> SKEW2 ASMPAT Sample patch file for FAST
> SKEW3 ASMPAT Sample patch file for FAST
> UNLOAD ASM Source for UNLOAD... in HEX format
> UNLOAD HEX Converts ANY file to HEX (CRC: )
> UNLOD2 ASM Source for UNLOAD2
> UNLOD2 HEX HEX for UNLOAD2 (presumably the same as UNLOAD)
> XD HEX Another directory lister (CRC: C7 B7)
Hope to have done somthing useful.... ;)
Peter Dassow
>> Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk!
There are more than two.
See my old blog entry here:
http://www.z80.eu/blog/index.php?entry=entry100808-210000
and also my ISO for download here:
http://www.z80.eu/cpmsoft.html
I guess you didn't look for other copies for a longer time.
Also, there were a lot of comp.os.cpm entries already about it a long
time ago ;-)
Regards
Peter
Nathanael
<dott.PiergiorgioNI...@KAIGUN.fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> Il 28/08/2011 12:06, Nathanael ha scritto:
>
> > What's the pedigree here? I know WU was a mirror of Oak. Walnut Creek
> > was a mirror of what? Was SIMTEL the original site?
> From the archives of this very NG (available in the walnut CD in
> simtel/archives/cpm) seems that the ur-text internet archive site was
> MIT-MC, the librarian being one Frank Wancho.
> Hope to have done somthing useful.... ;)
Yes, thank you very much. Though it's my understanding that Keith
Peterson started SIMTEL in 1979, and apparently was the biggest
contributor to MIT-MC in the early going, so it may be fair to say the
two sites grew up together.
But my bad; I was unclear in my intent. I'm not really looking for the
prehistoric origins of CP/M archives; though that would be an
interesting history in itself.
I want to put up a mirror of the major repositories -- WUArchives,
Oak, SIMTEL and Walnut Creek (plus a number of others: Demon, Funet,
etc.). But to reduce bulk, I'm trying to eliminate the redundancies
by, for example, linking WU and Oak back to the CD-ROM for the SIGM
and CPMUG collections, rather than duplicating them, and essentially
only reproduce the differences. I'm operating under the theory that
figuring out which of the four was the primary site -- and which were
mirrors -- would help in figuring out which redundancies to eliminate.
That may be a pipe dream, but I thought it was worth a try.
Thanks again.
Nathanael
s100fan
> On Aug 28, 8:49 pm, "dott.Piergiorgio"
>
> by, for example, linking WU and Oak back to the CD-ROM for the SIGM
> and CPMUG collections, rather than duplicating them, and essentially
> only reproduce the differences.
>
This would be much appreciated if you can achieve it.
Did you see the thread back in July about a project to properly index
Walnut Creek CDROM? This could help in tracking down redundancies and
different dated versions of files - that Walnut Creek CDROM has many
duplications across archives from Simtel, CPMUG, Demon etc..
The text file at this link is an extended index of the files on the
'94 Walnut Ck CDROM, made by expanding and collating the many ARK
files with the existing txt index files. It greatly improves
visibilty.
Bill Collis reported taking it several steps further by expanding many
other types of archives and libraries (LBR) so that the contents are
fully listed. I haven't seen his further expanded index files yet, but
I still hope to get a consolidated and comprehensive index finished at
some point...
Rick
William
> Bill Collis reported taking it several steps further by expanding many
> other types of archives and libraries (LBR) so that the contents are
> fully listed. I haven't seen his further expanded index files yet, but
> I still hope to get a consolidated and comprehensive index finished at
> some point...
>
> Rick
Confirmed. The works has been done and I am now in the process adding
some of my own stuff (some original) to make a DVD. Sorry for the
delays but it is holiday time now!
Bill
Nathanael
> On Aug 29, 12:39 pm, Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 28, 8:49 pm, "dott.Piergiorgio"
>
> > But to reduce bulk, I'm trying to eliminate the redundancies
> > by, for example, linking WU and Oak back to the CD-ROM for the SIGM
> > and CPMUG collections, rather than duplicating them, and essentially
> > only reproduce the differences.
>
> > Nathanael
>
> This would be much appreciated if you can achieve it.
>
> Did you see the thread back in July about a project to properly index
> Walnut Creek CDROM? This could help in tracking down redundancies and
> different dated versions of files - that Walnut Creek CDROM has many
> duplications across archives from Simtel, CPMUG, Demon etc..
>
> The text file at this link is an extended index of the files on the
> '94 Walnut Ck CDROM, made by expanding and collating the many ARK
> files with the existing txt index files. It greatly improves
> visibilty.
>
>
> Bill Collis reported taking it several steps further by expanding many
> other types of archives and libraries (LBR) so that the contents are
> fully listed. I haven't seen his further expanded index files yet, but
> I still hope to get a consolidated and comprehensive index finished at
> some point...
>
> Rick
OK, well, wow, that's exactly the kind of work I wasn't looking
forward to :-) I'm more at the level of comparing file listings over
at the Wayback Machine. The problem is greatly complicated by the fact
that files and directories have been copied around so much they've
mostly lost their original timestamps, which is also too bad for
historical purposes (has no one heard of "cp -r --
preserve=timestamp"?).
I'm currently toying with running MD5s against the lot. But expanding
out each and every LBR/ARK/SQZ file across four major and a dozen
minor repositories -- well, that's not *my* idea of a good time :-).
However, I'd be willing to grab a reasonably sized chunk and lend a
hand, if anyone needs it.
Nathanael
Holger Petersen
>I'm currently toying with running MD5s against the lot.
I do think that I have an ancient 'original':
h...@kbbs.org:/media/CPM_CDROM> dir
-r-------- 1 hp users 1533906 14. Sep 1994 00-index.txt
-r-------- 1 hp users 709663 14. Sep 1994 allfiles.txt
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 _bbs
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 beehive
-r-------- 1 hp users 482 7. Okt 1994 cdrom.cfg
dr-x------ 1 hp users 6144 25. Okt 1994 commodor
dr-x------ 1 hp users 4096 25. Okt 1994 cpm
dr-x------ 1 hp users 6144 25. Okt 1994 cpmhelp
dr-x------ 1 hp users 6144 25. Okt 1994 cpminfo
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 demon
-r-------- 1 hp users 1414 7. Okt 1994 dirs.txt
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 docs
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 emulator
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 enterprs
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 fog
-r-------- 1 hp users 43 13. Sep 1994 go.bat
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 jsage
dr-x------ 1 hp users 14336 25. Okt 1994 kaypro
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 kildall
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 lambda
-r-------- 1 hp users 36508 8. Sep 1994 lookup.exe
dr-x------ 1 hp users 10240 25. Okt 1994 mbug
dr-x------ 1 hp users 4096 25. Okt 1994 osborne
-r-------- 1 hp users 5329 7. Okt 1994 readme.txt
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 simtel
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 starlet
-r-------- 1 hp users 10219 14. Sep 1994 treeinfo.ncd
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 utils
-r-------- 1 hp users 185230 7. Okt 1994 view.exe
dr-x------ 1 hp users 2048 25. Okt 1994 zsys
h...@kbbs.org:/media/CPM_CDROM> md5sum * 2>/dev/null
d43daea9e5ac9bae8de46150ed41c2d6 00-index.txt
41f2697a5a86f075125856f47d371743 allfiles.txt
f51857cc9c8c5f934e54e0a8950afbb5 cdrom.cfg
3e9908ee22985b38fcf2e6c8de9cdf3d dirs.txt
f612722c878e57ae48aebc85739fdcbc go.bat
7af2458d0c92f9318f4496b833671dae lookup.exe
e973b6c0edd011b31fa34f8fb8dce62b readme.txt
e3c2c67033d508e5210d4a18f2575f3b treeinfo.ncd
749b7b2da3d3e7bcf9827c4ecc4641a1 view.exe
> But expanding
>out each and every LBR/ARK/SQZ file across four major and a dozen
>minor repositories -- well, that's not *my* idea of a good time :-).
It would be a job for a good shell-script. IF there are linux-
programms for un-compressing all archives.
Greetings, Holger
Nathanael
> Nathanael <cjecul...@gmail.com> writes:
> >expanding out each and every LBR/ARK/SQZ file across four
> >major and a dozen minor repositories -- well, that's not *my*
> >idea of a good time :-).
>
> It would be a job for a good shell-script. IF there are linux-
> programms for un-compressing all archives.
"The Unarchiver" (http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/unarchiver.html) claims
to support LBRs, ARCs, LHAs, ZIPs, SQueezed and Crunched files. I
haven't tried it 'cause it needs to be compiled for Linux and I've
never had any success with that (I'm not a programmer).
OK, I've got my mirror site up. Includes mirrors of the CD,
WUArchives, OAK, Demon Archives, Funet.fi, Seanet's CP/M-86
repository, and others; plus links to other sites. Most of it's in
both online browseable format and downloadable ISO. More planned.
Everyone's invited to take a look. I'm open to suggestions.
--Nathanael
Nathanael
> OK, I've got my mirror site up....
> Everyone's invited to take a look.
And I suppose you're just supposed to guess the URL. Got up too early
this morning:
http://www.accardi-by-the-sea.org/humongous/index.html
That's temporary. I'll eventually register a domain for it.
>
> --Nathanael
Charles Richmond
When I brought up the page using the Safari browser, all I got was
a black browser screen...
--
+----------------------------------------+
| Charles and Francis Richmond |
| |
| plano dot net at aquaporin4 dot com |
+----------------------------------------+
Henk Siewert
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ChickenMan
a black screen with IE9.
cm
Henk Siewert
OK, I looked at the source code.
You are using a lot of Javascript.
But I have not installed Java, and I am not going to...
You can make green on black without using Java!
<body bgcolor="#000000">
<p><font color="#00FF00">A:></font></p>
</body>
I do not know what you are trying to do, as I cannot see it, but just keep
it simple.
Greetings,
Henk Siewert
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Peter Dassow
> OK, I looked at the source code.
> You are using a lot of Javascript.
> But I have not installed Java, and I am not going to...
> You can make green on black without using Java!
He uses only Javascript, so you don't have to install additional
software. He just have to test it with his own Internet Explo(d)rer.
> <body bgcolor="#000000">
> <p><font color="#00FF00">A:></font></p>
> </body>
That looks not unusual. But font commands are somewhat outdated.
> I do not know what you are trying to do, as I cannot see it, but just keep
> it simple.
>
Regardless of my above comments, I agree with that.
Peter
Henk Siewert
Oh,oh. Java is not Javascript and not JScript.
I know.
Java is an object oriented programming language. Whatever that me be.
I am not 'into' object oriented programming.
I can structure my programs and modules without all that modernistic
blabla.
If you want a demonstration of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle use object
oriented languages. ;-)
I use CP/M, BASCOM, FORTRAN and MAC. What a nice simplicity.
All the REL's can work together.
JavaScript is the script used for XHTML. Which is using HTML the way is was
never meant to.
Oh ja, Jscript, the Microsoft implementation. Let's not go into that.
If you want everybody to be able to see your website, just use HTML.
Henk Siewert
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Steve Nickolas
> On 8/30/11 7:15 PM, Nathanael wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 8:13 am, Nathanael<cjecul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> OK, I've got my mirror site up....
>>> Everyone's invited to take a look.
>>
>> And I suppose you're just supposed to guess the URL. Got up too early
>> this morning:
>>
>> http://www.accardi-by-the-sea.org/humongous/index.html
>>
>> That's temporary. I'll eventually register a domain for it.
>>
>
> When I brought up the page using the Safari browser, all I got was a black
> browser screen...
>
>
>
At least at that time - haven't rechecked - my droid's browser did the
same.
-uso.
none
I have a korn shell script which I wrote to expand a number of different
archive types. It should be easy to extend to include extra types as
long as a utility to do the expansion exists. In case it is useful I'll
include it here.
Cheers -- Dave Hines.
#!/bin/ksh -p
# $Id: explode,v 1.1 2008/02/13 12:12:27 dh Exp dh $
# Look for various kinds of archive files, & extract the contents of
# each archives into a directory of the same name as the archive.
# If the processed archives are in the current directory, (ie. the
# names do not contain '/' characters), move them into the "Archive"
# sub-directory.
explode_archive()
{
local suffix command dir file="$1"
if [[ ! -r "$file" ]]; then
echo "$file: File absent or not readable"
return 1
fi
case "$file" in
*.tar.gz) dir="${file%.tar.gz}" command="tar zxf"; ;;
*.tgz) dir="${file%.tgz}" command="tar zxf"; ;;
*.tar) dir="${file%.tar}" command="tar xf"; ;;
*.rar) dir="${file%.rar}" command="unrar x"; ;;
*.zip) dir="${file%.zip}" command="unzip"; ;;
*.zoo) dir="${file%.zoo}" command="zoo e//"; ;;
*.arc) dir="${file%.arc}" command="arc e"; ;;
*.lzh) dir="${file%.lzh}" command="lharc e"; ;;
*) echo "$file: Unknown archive type, skipping."; return 1 ;;
esac
dir="${dir##*/}"
if [ -e "$dir" ]; then
echo "$dir exists, skipping $file"
return 2
elif mkdir "$dir"; then
[[ "$file" == /* ]] || file="../$file"
( \cd "$dir"; $command "$file" )
else
echo "$basename: Cannot create directory, skipping $archive"
return 3
fi
}
if [[ $# > 0 ]]; then
mkdir Archive
for file in "$@"; do
explode_archive "$file" && [[ "$file" != */* ]] && mv -i "$file" Archive
done
else
echo "Usage: $0 archive_file..."
fi
Axel Berger
>Works fine in Chrome & Firefox, black with dark green writing. But just
>a black screen with IE9.
Black and blue for links on an off-white background, just as I have set
my browser up. Colours, fonts and other design elements in HTML and
stylesheets are only suggestions, most often very bad ones, and it is
up to the reader and his browser to accept them or not.
N.B: In Opera, the most standards compliant of all browsers and here
set up to display pages as the author intended, it all black too. So
the error definitely is in the code and Firefox and Chrome seem to have
extra code to correct this error. That error correction is the main
reason for the bloat and slowness of current browsers. I wish all
browser vendors could agree to disoplay nothing but "syntax error" in
these cases, just as compilers do. It would be better for everybody
including the Web itself and sloppy coders.
Axel Berger
>But font commands are somewhat outdated.
The font tag was always wrong, it is an aberration by Netscape.
See:
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/color
and all of
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/
As is so often the case, doing the thing right in the first place is
much *less* work than bungling and getting lost in a maze of mistakes.
Peter Dassow
Axel,
CSS exists since HTML 4.0, and this was IMHO 1996. So you're right,
since a long time an alternative exists, but "/font" was not ALWAYS wrong.
The first years (~1990 - ~1996) of HTML, "/font" was really specified
and used. If you know "selfhtml" as a kind of a manual, you will be
still able to find "/font".
Problems occur mostly only if a dark background with a light font color
is used. Typically "/font" still works - also with IE - if the browser
preferences are similar (if a user prefers also white on dark... which
is not very often the case ;-) )...
Regards
Peter
Axel Berger
>you're right, since a long time an alternative exists, but "/font" was
>not ALWAYS wrong.
Agree. What I meant was, that the font-tag was always deprecated by
those, who set content above "beauty". One important problem with old
browsers from the time, which I still use, is, that "ignore colours"
resets all colours to browser default, *except* those set through font.
Thus the tag was a noncompliant outsider from its beginning.
I might agree that when there was no alternative there may have been
some valid uses, but in practice misuse was the rule of the day.
Nathanael
> N.B: In Opera, the most standards compliant of all browsers and here
> set up to display pages as the author intended, it all black too. So
> the error definitely is in the code
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I haven't used iexplorer (or
Windows) in years, so I neglected to test on it.
I only use Javascript to provide a text effect at the top of the page;
the rest of the site is pretty simple. I'd used a table for layout
that I suspect IE was somehow choking on, so I rewrote the site
tableless, ran it through the W3C validator and BrowserShots, and it
appears to be working OK now. Let me know if you're still having
problems.
Temporary URL: http://www.accardi-by-the-sea.org/humongous/index.html
--Nathanael
Danilo Coccia
> On Aug 31, 7:21 pm, Axel_Ber...@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I haven't used iexplorer (or
> Windows) in years, so I neglected to test on it.
>
<snip>
The site looks OK with Firefox, but I cannot get the mirrors page to
work. Any link I click starts a long and fruitless activity: nothing
changes on the page! Is it a mock-up?
And one more thing: I downloaded the OAK ISO image oakcpm2.iso.bz2, but
unzipping the archive produced a CRC error.
Doubting the integrity of the download, I downloaded it again, but got
the same result.
Can you please check the archive?
TIA.
Nathanael
> Il 02/09/2011 00:55, Nathanael ha scritto:> On Aug 31, 7:21 pm, Axel_Ber...@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) wrote:
> The site looks OK with Firefox, but I cannot get the mirrors page to
> work. Any link I click starts a long and fruitless activity: nothing
> changes on the page! Is it a mock-up?
No, everything's live -- save for a couple of sites which are still
uploading as I type this.
I just checked. I'm running Firefox 6.0 on Kubuntu 11.04. All the
mirror links worked for me, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Anyone
else having problems?
> And one more thing: I downloaded the OAK ISO image
> oakcpm2.iso.bz2, but unzipping the archive produced a CRC error.
oakcpm2.iso.bz2 isn't hosted on my site; I just direct link to the
file on z80cpu.eu. In the meanwhile, if you click on the *HUMONGOUS*
CP/M link just above it, you'll get oakcpm.iso.7z from my site, which
is simply a repackaging (7zip provides better compression rates) of
the iso from z80cpu.
I've changed the link; instead of direct-linking to the file at
z80cpu.eu, I now link to the directory. Makes for an extra click, but
maybe that makes it clearer that it's not coming from my site.
Is that confusing for anyone else?
Finally, speaking of the isos at z80cpu.eu, I've noticed it has two
copies: oakcpm.iso.bz and oakcpm2.iso.bz. I've downloaded both, but
have problems with the former, in that every file on the iso shows up
twice in directory listings. oakcpm2 seems to fix that problem, but
otherwise appears identical to the first one. Has anyone else noticed
this?
OK, I'm trying to come up with a domain name for the site. I'm a man
of limited creativity, however, so here's all I've managed to come up
with:
humongouscpm
cpmsoftware - descriptive, if a little dry
cpmarchives - ditto
cpmlives - too ebullient?
retro-software
8bitarchives
8bitRules!
whoneeds16bits
retrotech
retrosoft/retrosoftware
GrandadsOS
RealMansOS
TrailingEdge (already taken?)
Any help?
--Nathanael
Charles Richmond
Charles Richmond
I am seeing the text now in Safari 4.0
Henk Siewert
I can now read most of the website in IE 7.
But why is the window at the top so small? OK, it is scrollable but far to
small to read the text within.
I had to do a <CTRL>A to copy the text into notepad to read the text. (I am
using Windows XP Pro SP3.)
Windows Live sounds interesting. But I cannot find a download link.
BTW, some text gets tangled up on each other and becomes unreadable.
Henk Siewert
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Nathanael
> Hallo Nathanael,
>
> I can now read most of the website in IE 7.
> But why is the window at the top so small? OK, it is scrollable but far to
> small to read the text within.
I'm using a downloaded javascript just to provide a little type
effect. It's supposed to look like a CP/M directory listing. But the
script seems to have some problems; like you, my experience is that it
doesn't size consistently -- sometimes it's fine, other times not. I'm
looking for a replacement, but there's nothing critical in the window
-- just a brief introduction -- so it's a bit lower priority.
> Windows Live sounds interesting. But I cannot find a download link.
CP/M-Live is basically MYZ80 with about half a dozen preconfigured CP/
M systems (NZCOM, ZPM3, etc.; the list is on the CP/M-Live page), and
a script wrapped around the whole thing that allows you to select
which system you want to run automatically, or create a complete new
system. I've put the whole thing on a boot image and turned it into a
bootable DVD that on my system under VirtualBox goes from power-on to
CP/M prompt in 6.5 seconds.
I'm just putting the final touches on a couple of enhancements to the
script, then I'll upload the image in the next day or so as time
permits.
> BTW, some text gets tangled up on each other and becomes unreadable.
Hmm, I haven't run into this either on my system or at BrowserShots.
Anyone else?
--Nathanael
http://www.accardi-by-the-sea.org/humongous/index.html
Danilo Coccia
> On Sep 2, 8:42 pm, Danilo Coccia<danil...@acm.org> wrote:
>> Il 02/09/2011 00:55, Nathanael ha scritto:> On Aug 31, 7:21 pm, Axel_Ber...@b.maus.de (Axel Berger) wrote:
>
>> The site looks OK with Firefox, but I cannot get the mirrors page to
>> work. Any link I click starts a long and fruitless activity: nothing
>> changes on the page! Is it a mock-up?
>
> No, everything's live -- save for a couple of sites which are still
> uploading as I type this.
>
> I just checked. I'm running Firefox 6.0 on Kubuntu 11.04. All the
> mirror links worked for me, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Anyone
> else having problems?
I forgot to mention it in my previous post, but the mirrors page I was
referring to was related to Zork.
The links to the mirrors page are now working OK for me.
>> And one more thing: I downloaded the OAK ISO image
>> oakcpm2.iso.bz2, but unzipping the archive produced a CRC error.
>
> oakcpm2.iso.bz2 isn't hosted on my site; I just direct link to the
> file on z80cpu.eu. In the meanwhile, if you click on the *HUMONGOUS*
> CP/M link just above it, you'll get oakcpm.iso.7z from my site, which
> is simply a repackaging (7zip provides better compression rates) of
> the iso from z80cpu.
>
> I've changed the link; instead of direct-linking to the file at
> z80cpu.eu, I now link to the directory. Makes for an extra click, but
> maybe that makes it clearer that it's not coming from my site.
I downloaded the oakcpm.iso.bz from z80cpu.eu. The extra click didn't
even make me sweat :)
> Finally, speaking of the isos at z80cpu.eu, I've noticed it has two
> copies: oakcpm.iso.bz and oakcpm2.iso.bz. I've downloaded both, but
> have problems with the former, in that every file on the iso shows up
> twice in directory listings. oakcpm2 seems to fix that problem, but
> otherwise appears identical to the first one. Has anyone else noticed
> this?
Thanks for the tip.
The oakcpm.iso.bz is OK. Its ISO has no problems with showing duplicate
files, it works fine.
> OK, I'm trying to come up with a domain name for the site. I'm a man
> of limited creativity, however, so here's all I've managed to come up
> with:
>
> humongouscpm
> cpmsoftware - descriptive, if a little dry
> cpmarchives - ditto
> cpmlives - too ebullient?
> retro-software
> 8bitarchives
> 8bitRules!
> whoneeds16bits
> retrotech
> retrosoft/retrosoftware
> GrandadsOS
> RealMansOS
> TrailingEdge (already taken?)
>
> Any help?
The Humongous one seems a good one, considering that it contains more
software than any CP/M machine could swallow!
I also like GranddasOS, although it reminds me of my age... :)
Nathanael
> Il 04/09/2011 06:55, Nathanael ha scritto:
> I forgot to mention it in my previous post, but the mirrors page I was
> referring to was related to Zork.
> The links to the mirrors page are now working OK for me.
I'm temporarily hosting the site on another hobby site of mine
dedicated to Infocom. The pages you saw were that site's attempt to
display a 404 error (sadly, however, that site's 404 page is itself
404, and the site admin (me) hasn't bothered fixing it) because I
hadn't finished uploading those mirrors yet.
They're up now, and the links are working.
> The oakcpm.iso.bz is OK. Its ISO has no problems with showing duplicate
> files, it works fine.
Hmm, must just be me then. In any case I have no problem with
oakcpm2.iso.bz.
I've also uploaded my CP/M-Live! ISO, if anyone's interested in trying
it out. The download link is available on the CP/M Live! page. What
documentation there is is, of course, not entirely up to date; I'm
working on it.
BTW, does anyone have a working MYZ80 image for CB Falconer's DOSPlus
2.5? Haven't had time to put one together myself, but I'd like to add
it to CP/M-Live!
Also, his website (cbfalconer.home.att.net) has gone offline; in fact
the whole home.att.net is gone (Hal Bower's site with it). Does anyone
have a mirror of Chuck's site? I'd like to include it on *HUMONGOUS*
CP/M.
--Nathanael
Henk Siewert
It looks like you are an expert in doing things the hard way.
When I put my cursor over the CP/M-Live link my status bar (IE 7) say's the
download will be a *.iso.7z file.
What the *** is a 7z file? Some compression? Why not use ZIP. Everyone can
use ZIP.
When I click on it my screen fills with a lot of strange characters.
Completely useless.
When I right click on it do a SAVE AS, I get -HumongousCPM.iso.htm-.
Why not ZIP the whole ISO and put is as a zip on the webpage.
Sorry but this is not a clever way to do things.
Henk Siewert
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Nathanael
> What the *** is a 7z file?
> When I click on it my screen fills with a lot of strange characters.
> Completely useless.
Thanks for the report. I hadn't noticed my ISP didn't have the mime
type set. Fixed. You should be able to download it now.
ZIP's compression rate is, by modern standards, rather mediocre. I
guess 7z is already saving me 200~300mb of server space, and that'll
be more as I add more stuff. The benefit is shorter download times and
less bandwidth.
On Windows, WinZip, IZArc, PeaZip, WinRAR and 7-Zip all fully support
7z extraction so you shouldn't have to install anything.
--Nathanael
Nathanael
BTW, Henk, I've forgotten to say thanks for scans you did of the
Walnut CD. I'd never seen the actual CD before. Very interesting. I
hope you don't mind I've put copies on my site.
--Nathanael
Henk Siewert
Thats OK.
It is for everybody to enjoy.
Henk Siewert
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Henk Siewert
I still get the same erors.
(I have purged my cache, buffers etc...)
Henk Siewert
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Steve Nickolas
> ZIP's compression rate is, by modern standards, rather mediocre. I
> guess 7z is already saving me 200~300mb of server space, and that'll
> be more as I add more stuff. The benefit is shorter download times and
> less bandwidth.
>
> On Windows, WinZip, IZArc, PeaZip, WinRAR and 7-Zip all fully support
> 7z extraction so you shouldn't have to install anything.
>
> --Nathanael
>
I prefer the good old standbys. OTOH, if you do use an OS capable of web
browsing there probably is a port of 7z command-line to it. (Linux has
one. pretty sure even MS-DOS has one, but only for 386 and up.)
-uso.
Nathanael
> Nathanael,
>
> I still get the same erors.
> (I have purged my cache, buffers etc...)
Hmm, strange, that. I don't have IE7, but IE8 on Windows XP is working
for me.
Anyone else having problems downloading the ISOs from my site?
--Nathanael
Michael C Finn
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> Also, his website (cbfalconer.home.att.net) has gone offline; in fact
> the whole home.att.net is gone (Hal Bower's site with it).
Hal Bower's site relocated to http://mysite.verizon.net/hal.bower/
ATT WorldNet was bought by SBC who then took over the brand name, merged the
WorldNet Internet Service into their own and dropped personal web pages.
C B Falconer's web site was archived by www.archive.org and you can see a
snapshot of it here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080430103651/http://cbfalconer.home.att.net/index.htm
I went to his CP/M software section:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100222001229/http://cbfalconer.home.att.net/download/cpm/
I tried to grab one of the files, ddtz27.zip and I was able to grab and open
it without error. I did not check all the listed files.
If there are no mirrors, then perhaps the files are still recoverable from
archive.org
Nathanael
<lyricalnan...@usotsuki.hoshinet.org> wrote:
> I prefer the good old standbys. OTOH, if you do use an OS capable of web
> browsing there probably is a port of 7z command-line to it. (Linux has
> one. pretty sure even MS-DOS has one, but only for 386 and up.)
Ah, a command-line guy. According to the 7-zip site (www.7-zip.org/
download.html) there's a command-line version for at least five
different Linux distros, FreeBSD, OSX, BeOS, Amiga, DOS, Solaris and
AIX. So unless you're running something REALLY out there (like CP/
M :-))....
--Nathanael
Steve Nickolas
> Ah, a command-line guy.
This is comp.os.cpm ... you expected anything else xD?
-uso.
Nathanael
wrote:
> Hal Bower's site relocated tohttp://mysite.verizon.net/hal.bower/
> ..
> C B Falconer's web site was archived bywww.archive.organd you can see a
> snapshot of it here:http://web.archive.org/web/20080430103651/http://cbfalconer.home.att....
Doh! The Wayback Machine - yeah, I've pulled a lot of my stuff from
there. Dunno why it never occurred to me to go there for Chuck's site.
Thanks. I've updated the site. Unfortunately, the WBM doesn't allow
site-crawling/downloading, so I had to grab everything manually, then
do a lot of heavy editing of the html. If anyone discovers any broken
links in *H*CP/M's mirror, let me know.
--Nathanael
Nathanael
Yeah, OK. Leave it to me to state the obvious. :-)
As much as I swear by the command line in general, I never swore AT
it more than when trying to wade through the likes of a PKWare help
screen. Course now that I'm a UNIX guy, I've discovered man pages are
an order of magnitude more evil than anything PKWare ever put out.
Type "man netstat" and try to keep your sanity.
--Nathanael
Henk Siewert
I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
I have tried this on 3 different systems.
They all give the same errors and lockup.
You can find a screen dump at http://www.swtrocketry.com/001.jpg
Henk Siewert
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Mike Finn
> Hi Nathanael,
>
> I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
> When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
> I have tried this on 3 different systems.
> They all give the same errors and lockup.
> You can find a screen dump at http://www.swtrocketry.com/001.jpg
I downloaded the iso but did not burn it. I first tried to use Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 to set up a virtual machine and then boot the iso but got the same error as you.
However, I then tried Sun VirtualBox and I was able to get the iso to boot so fast that I was unable to read any of the informational messages. I wound up at a NZCOM command prompt. Typing EXIT at that prompt took me to a DOS prompt, FreeDos OS with 4DOS, and I could further explore the booted image from there.
Nathanael
> Hi Nathanael,
>
> I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
> When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
Thanks for the screendump. You don't say what VM software you use, but
I'll assume, based on Mike Finn's report, it's VPC. JemmEx is the EMS/
XMS manager for FreeDOS. Looks like it doesn't play well with VPC. As
soon as I have time, I'll see if I can find a replacement for it. I'm
sure I've got a copy of VPC lying around somewhere.
Whew! I've spent more time in Windows this past week than I have in
years :-)
--Nathanael
> I have tried this on 3 different systems.
> They all give the same errors and lockup.
> You can find a screen dump athttp://www.swtrocketry.com/001.jpg
>
> Henk Siewert
>
> "Nathanael" <cjecul...@gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:e7d2d6ba-e397-4308...@m35g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
Nathanael
> I was able to get the iso to boot so fast that I was unable to read any of the informational messages.
On my system Start to CP/M prompt clocks in at 6.5 seconds.
--Nathanael
Nathanael
> I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
> When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
Well, now THIS was certainly a first for me: running CP/M inside MYZ80
on top of DOS running in VirtualPC under Windows XP inside VirtualBox
running on top of Linux!
In any case, I think I found the bug. At least, it's working for me in
both VirtualPC and VirtualBox, though performance in VPC is a real
dog. Or maybe it's just cause I've got it nested so deep. I've
uploaded the new version.
BTW, MYZ80 provides three utilities for moving files in and out of CP/
M -- DOSDIR, IMPORT and EXPORT. My script sets the default DOS dir to
\MIRRORS\ on the DVD. This is because my intent is to eventually
combine CP/M-Live! with WalnutCD so that one has direct access to the
Walnut Creek CD contents from CP/M. In the meanwhile, you can set the
default location elsewhere if you need to. Type EXIT to exit from
NZCOM, then type "CPM d:\path\to\your\CPM\files\". The trailing
backslash is required. Then inside CP/M DOSDIR should show you your
files.
--Nathanael
Mike Finn
> On Sep 7, 3:30 am, "Henk Siewert" <s....@tiscali.nl> wrote:
> > Hi Nathanael,
> >
> > I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
> > When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
>
> Thanks for the screendump. You don't say what VM software you use, but
> I'll assume, based on Mike Finn's report, it's VPC. JemmEx is the EMS/
> XMS manager for FreeDOS. Looks like it doesn't play well with VPC. As
> soon as I have time, I'll see if I can find a replacement for it. I'm
> sure I've got a copy of VPC lying around somewhere.
I finally captured what the informational messages were when running the iso under VirtualBox. They are the same messages as reported above. The difference is that the process did not hang after the jemmex command or whatever command comes next in the config.sys. The remainder of config.sys was processed along with autoexec.bat to a stable bootup.
I saw your other post about uploading a new version so I'll try that next.
Nathanael
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:56:06 AM UTC-4, Nathanael wrote:
> > On Sep 7, 3:30 am, "Henk Siewert" <s....@tiscali.nl> wrote:
> > > Hi Nathanael,
>
> > > I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
> > > When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
>
> > Thanks for the screendump. You don't say what VM software you use, but
> > I'll assume, based on Mike Finn's report, it's VPC. JemmEx is the EMS/
> > XMS manager for FreeDOS. Looks like it doesn't play well with VPC. As
> > soon as I have time, I'll see if I can find a replacement for it. I'm
> > sure I've got a copy of VPC lying around somewhere.
>
> I finally captured what the informational messages were when running the iso under VirtualBox.
worry about.
> the process did not hang after the jemmex command
the trick for me under VPC; let me know how it does for you. Henk
doesn't say whether he was booting in a VM or on real hardware.
I've been using this for months without issue. It's amazing, when I
put it out for others to try how quickly it breaks :-)
--Nathanael
Mike Finn
> On Sep 7, 10:45 pm, Mike Finn <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:56:06 AM UTC-4, Nathanael wrote:
> > I finally captured what the informational messages were when running the iso under VirtualBox.
>
> There are several other non-fatal messages I'm probably not going to
> worry about.
>
> > the process did not hang after the jemmex command
>
> It was a JemmEx issue. There was a fix in the FreeDOS forums which did
> the trick for me under VPC; let me know how it does for you. Henk
> doesn't say whether he was booting in a VM or on real hardware.
I was able to boot your latest .iso under both VPC and VirtualBox. The boot process was too fast for me to read any of the informational/error messages but the boot was complete and I was at the nzcom prompt ready to use.
Peter Dassow
>> I downloaded the CP/M-live iso.
>> When I boot from the CD I get a lot of errors and the computer locks up.
>
> Thanks for the screendump. You don't say what VM software you use, but
> I'll assume, based on Mike Finn's report, it's VPC. JemmEx is the EMS/
> XMS manager for FreeDOS. Looks like it doesn't play well with VPC. As
> soon as I have time, I'll see if I can find a replacement for it. I'm
> sure I've got a copy of VPC lying around somewhere.
Typically because his or her usually used PC does not run the program on it.
But in this case MYZ80 is working very well with any pre-Vista Windows.
If you take Vista or Windows 7, you could get running MYZ80 without any
hassle with DOSBOX (see also my pages about MYZ80 and other emulators).
And DOSBOX is also running with Linux very well.
So why should I boot from this CD ?
Regards
Peter
Nathanael
> What's the reason why someone should boot with this CD ?
> ...And DOSBOX is also running with Linux very well.
All true. Initially I created this just as an imitation of of a Linux
Live-CD (I think I may have been prompted by a query here in c-o-cpm
some time back from some newb looking for just such a thing). If
you've already got a CP/M system set up the way you like, CP/M-Live!
may not offer much advantage to you.
The advantages of CP/M-Live! are, first of all, the same as any live
CD, such as virtually any Linux distro provides: the ability to try
out the OS without having to install or configure anything.
Secondly, the CP/M-Live! wrapper script provides a convenient front-
end for a small collection of included pre-configured CP/M OSes:
NZCOM, ZPM3, Z3Plus, QPM, etc., and more are easily added(*). If I
want to run, say, Z3Plus, I just type "CPM Z3PLUS"; if I then want to
switch to QPM, I EXIT from Z3Plus and type "CPM QPM", . In addition,
if I want to create a test system to do some experimenting, I simply
type "CPM <newsys>" and the script automatically creates a new
configuration for me with the name I specified. And any other MYZ80
configuration can be added to CP/M-Live! simply by copying it into the
\LIVE directory.
CP/M-Live! is not just a bootable CD, by the way. It runs well with
DOSBox, which is the way I usually run it. Just copy the \LIVE folder
from the CP/M-Live! image to your hard drive, mount it in DB, and
you're good to go.
Again, if you're already settled in and comfortable with MYZ80 -- or
any other CP/M emulator -- CP/M-Live! probably won't hold much
interest for you. It's intended more as a convenience for anyone
looking to try out CP/M in the most convenient possible manner, and as
a minimalist front-end to pull together a collection of MYZ80
configurations.
--Nathanael
(*) Hmm -- that's a thought. I could start a download site, ala
virtualboximages.com or the VMWare Appliance marketplace, where one
can share one's favorite pre-built MYZ80 images.
Mike Finn
I burned your .iso to a CD. While I was able to get your latest CP/M-Live .iso to work under VPC and VirtualBox, I was not able to fully boot my computer from the CD.
At the end of the bootup, I got the message "Can't find CP/M Live..."
I had an A: drive but no CD Drive D: or hard drive C:
The problem was with the CD-Rom detection.
I got error messages like "No CD_Rom drives detected" at the config.sys processing, I think.
As Autoexec.bat processed, I got error messages "SHUCDX can't install" and "can't open CD Driver CDROM"
Nathanael
Thanks for the report. This is a FreeDOS problem. I'll take a look as
soon as I can.
Meanwhile, the site now has its own domain. I just registered it and
it's live for me, but I'd like to make sure others can access it
before I switch over. Thanks.
--Nathanael
Peter Dassow
>>
>> At the end of the bootup, I got the message "Can't find CP/M Live..."
>> I had an A: drive but no CD Drive D: or hard drive C:
>>
>> The problem was with the CD-Rom detection.
>>
>> I got error messages like "No CD_Rom drives detected" at the config.sys processing, I think.
>>
>> As Autoexec.bat processed, I got error messages "SHUCDX can't install" and "can't open CD Driver CDROM"
>
> Thanks for the report. This is a FreeDOS problem. I'll take a look as
> soon as I can.
Again, try one of my pages which describes how to integrate SATA-drivers
for CD-ROM at http://www.z80.eu/freedoscd.html
Regards
Peter
Nathanael
You may be on to something. When I set up a VM in VirtualBox with a
SATA CD the disk failed to boot. However, there's a new version of
FreeDOS out -- v1.1 Test 3 -- that boots from either SATA or IDE. I'm
trying to pull it apart now, see how it ticks.
--Nathanael
Steven Hirsch
> Meanwhile, the site now has its own domain. I just registered it and
> it's live for me, but I'd like to make sure others can access it
> before I switch over. Thanks.
>
> http://www.cpmarchives.org
No problem from here. I get a blank page with a request to notify you.
Tom Lake
it's live for me, but I'd like to make sure others can access it
before I switch over. Thanks.
http://www.cpmarchives.org
--
Tom Lake
Mike Finn
> Meanwhile, the site now has its own domain. I just registered it and
> it's live for me, but I'd like to make sure others can access it
> before I switch over. Thanks.
>
> http://www.cpmarchives.org
>
> --Nathanael
Holger Petersen
<AOL> Me too! </AOL>
But that was this morning (I live in germany :-)
Now I get a rather good looking (in konqueror!) CP/M-Page
Greetings, Holger
Peter Dassow
>> This can be related with used SATA instead of IDE interface.
>> Again, try one of my pages which describes how to integrate SATA-drivers
>> for CD-ROM athttp://www.z80.eu/freedoscd.html
>
> SATA CD the disk failed to boot. However, there's a new version of
> FreeDOS out -- v1.1 Test 3 -- that boots from either SATA or IDE. I'm
> trying to pull it apart now, see how it ticks.
update of the CDROM driver exists. But I am not sure about the real
compatibility of this (for me unknown) generic PCI IDE cache/cdrom
driver from Jack R. Ellis ... may be it is still an option to try
GCDROM.SYS (from http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdromdosdrv/ )...
Regards
Peter