Next release of NetBSD?
Tom Samplonius
When is the next release of NetBSD?
Tom
Martin Spott
What are you missing ?
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Tom Samplonius
On Sun, 19 Mar 1995, TR Nguyen wrote:
> In article <3ken3p$d...@enigma.uniserve.com> you wrote:
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> : When is the next release of NetBSD?
>
> I may not have th date exactly right...
> Either March 25th or March 30th.
> 2.1 will be placed on freebsd.cdrom.com by 1 of those dates.
>
> As of Now, I'm running 2.1-Development, and await for
> 2.1-Release.
Err, I said NetBSD, not FreeBSD.
As for FreeBSD 2.1 release, those dates are likely wrong. The core
team has gone on record as saying it will be released only when it more
stable than 1.1.5.1. That isn't likely to happen within 11 days.
Tom
Kenneth Stailey
> What are you missing ?
I have been though 0.9A -> 1.0_BETA -> 1.0 -> 1.0A
He's probably asking "when does 1.0A -> 1.1_BETA -> 1.1 happen?"
Christian Kuhtz
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> In article <3kh21i$j...@smigel.mitropa.com> (comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.development), mar...@smigel.mitropa.com (Martin Spott) writes:
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>> : When is the next release of NetBSD?
>>
>> What are you missing ?
>>
>
Why? Are you trying to find out how insecure a system can get? :)
Gruss nach Muenchen,
Chris
Gerhard Mehldau
In article <3kh21i$j...@smigel.mitropa.com> (comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.development), mar...@smigel.mitropa.com (Martin Spott) writes:
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> : When is the next release of NetBSD?
>
> What are you missing ?
>
NIS (YP).
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Martin Cracauer
>> : When is the next release of NetBSD?
>> What are you missing ?
>I have been though 0.9A -> 1.0_BETA -> 1.0 -> 1.0A
1.0A ?
Is this 1.0 with patches 00-06 applied or what?
Martin
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Martin Cracauer <crac...@wavehh.hanse.de> wrote:
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=>1.0A ?
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=>Is this 1.0 with patches 00-06 applied or what?
I'm not sure, but I don't think so. 1.0A is basically -current.
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Michael L. VanLoon
ksta...@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Stailey) writes:
>> : When is the next release of NetBSD?
>> What are you missing ?
>I have been though 0.9A -> 1.0_BETA -> 1.0 -> 1.0A
1.0A ?
Is this 1.0 with patches 00-06 applied or what?
1.0a is NetBSD-current, post-1.0 (between 1.0 and whatever may
follow).
I do not speak for the core team, but I'm pretty certain there are no
immediate plans for a new version release. NetBSD-1.0 works great,
and upgrading and following NetBSD-current is not all that difficult
if you know what you're doing.
You might try writing to (and subscribing to) curren...@NetBSD.org,
and see if anyone there has any ideas on release dates. Don't expect
too much, though -- NetBSD tends to only release when there's a really
good reason to drop another major bundle.
(You can get yourself subscribed to current-users by sending mail to
majo...@NetBSD.org.)
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> > What are you missing ?
> NIS (YP).
NetBSD 1.0 contains client-software for NIS, only server's missing.
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Tom Samplonius
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>In article <3kh21i$j...@smigel.mitropa.com> (comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.development), mar...@smigel.mitropa.com (Mart
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>> What are you missing ?
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>NIS (YP).
That too. But I was thinking mainly of bugs fixes, and more device
drivers. Does NetBSD/i386 support bounce buffers for DMA to ISA devices
on machines with >16megs of RAM? If not, that would be nice too. Oh yeah,
and the Linux compat code...
So, when is the next release?
Tom W. Cutter
|> In article <1995Mar21.0...@wavehh.hanse.de> crac...@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) writes:
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|> ksta...@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Stailey) writes:
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|> >> : When is the next release of NetBSD?
|> I do not speak for the core team, but I'm pretty certain there are no
|> immediate plans for a new version release. NetBSD-1.0 works great,
|> and upgrading and following NetBSD-current is not all that difficult
|> if you know what you're doing.
NetBSD-1.0A. The changes in the assembler make it more difficult to
get there. I'm interested too. Perhaps someone could put out a binary
snapshot. This was done before 1.0 was created. Seems like a lot
of changes can happen in the 6+ months since Oct. 1994. Can some
kind soul put one out? Thanks,
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Tom> In article <MICHAELV.95...@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>,
Tom> mich...@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon)
Tom> writes: |> In article
Tom> <1995Mar21.0...@wavehh.hanse.de>
Tom> crac...@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) writes: |> |>
Tom> ksta...@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Stailey) writes: |>
Tom> |> >> : When is the next release of NetBSD? |> ... |> I do
Tom> not speak for the core team, but I'm pretty certain there are
Tom> no |> immediate plans for a new version release. NetBSD-1.0
Tom> works great, |> and upgrading and following NetBSD-current is
Tom> not all that difficult |> if you know what you're doing. The
Tom> new emulation modes seem to be a good reason to want to go to
Tom> NetBSD-1.0A. The changes in the assembler make it more
Tom> difficult to get there. I'm interested too. Perhaps someone
Tom> could put out a binary snapshot. This was done before 1.0
Tom> was created. Seems like a lot of changes can happen in the
Tom> 6+ months since Oct. 1994. Can some kind soul put one out?
Tom> Thanks,
I have found that going from NetBSD-1.0 to NetBSD-1.0A is not that
difficult. The process I used was to update the source
compile/recompile the assembler, config.new. I then could recompile
the kernel. After that I recompiled a new kernel. I then used the
new kernel. I did a compile build of the entire source and have had
no problems ( I did have a slight error in the libc build forgotting the
time functions, but I added that to the makefile and every worked
after the new libc was installed. I needed to boot single user to fix this.).
Tom> -- Tom Cutter California District twcu...@mowgli.wr.usgs.gov
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Tom Samplonius
Exactly. So does anybody have an idea?
Tom
Kenneth Stailey
It is -current.
A quick way to check the version is to use "uname a"
pluto% uname -a
NetBSD pluto 1.0A NetBSD 1.0A (PLUTO) #19: Sat Mar 18 16:46:13 EST 1995 ken@pluto:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/PLUTO i386
John Hawkinson
>Does NetBSD/i386 support bounce buffers for DMA to ISA devices
>on machines with >16megs of RAM?
At present, no it does not.
>If not, that would be nice too.
Yes, well -- I don't think that anyone is currently working on it,
or has plans to; if you'd like to volunteer...
>Oh yeah, and the Linux compat code...
Yeah, that.
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Tom Samplonius
>I do not speak for the core team, but I'm pretty certain there are no
>immediate plans for a new version release. NetBSD-1.0 works great,
>and upgrading and following NetBSD-current is not all that difficult
>if you know what you're doing.
I've noticed that the full sources and tar'ed and gziped once a week on
ftp.netbsd.org. What are the chances of getting burned with these sources?
The system that thinking about install NetBSD on is 486 EISA motherboard,
with an Adaptec 1742 controller. How stable with NetBSD 1.0 be on this
hardware? How about current (from this week)?
Tom
Michael L. VanLoon
In article <MICHAELV.95...@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>, mich...@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon) says:
>I do not speak for the core team, but I'm pretty certain there are no
>immediate plans for a new version release. NetBSD-1.0 works great,
>and upgrading and following NetBSD-current is not all that difficult
>if you know what you're doing.
I've noticed that the full sources and tar'ed and gziped once a week on
ftp.netbsd.org. What are the chances of getting burned with these sources?
These are NetBSD-current, of course. I doubt you would ever get
"burned" by them, but any given set is not guaranteed to build
completely (after all, they're under development).
A better way to keep current (you can get up-to-date sources *any*
time you want) is to use "sup". Read in the NetBSD-current section
for sup instructions.
The system that thinking about install NetBSD on is 486 EISA motherboard,
with an Adaptec 1742 controller. How stable with NetBSD 1.0 be on this
hardware? How about current (from this week)?
NetBSD-1.0 is extremely stable. Current is usually pretty usable,
but there are never any guarantees.
As far as your hardware goes, I run NetBSD-1.0 on an EISA motherboard
with an AMD 486DX2/80, and a BusLogic bt747s (similar to the 1742)
SCSI controller. The main source of all NetBSD development,
sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu, is a 486 with a 1742. You be the judge how
well it should work... ;-)
Tom Samplonius
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>In <3kr9cj$2...@enigma.uniserve.com> t...@haven.uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) writes:
>
>>Does NetBSD/i386 support bounce buffers for DMA to ISA devices
>>on machines with >16megs of RAM?
>
>At present, no it does not.
>
>>If not, that would be nice too.
>
>Yes, well -- I don't think that anyone is currently working on it,
>or has plans to; if you'd like to volunteer...
Well, I guess 16bit ethernet cards are out then. What is a good
PCI ethernet card for NetBSD1.0?
Tom
Rafal Boni
|In article <3ku97j$e...@panix.com>, jh...@panix.com (John Hawkinson) says:
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|>In <3kr9cj$2...@enigma.uniserve.com> t...@haven.uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) writes:
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|>>Does NetBSD/i386 support bounce buffers for DMA to ISA devices
|>>on machines with >16megs of RAM?
|>
|>At present, no it does not.
[...]
| Well, I guess 16bit ethernet cards are out then. What is a good
|PCI ethernet card for NetBSD1.0?
Well, as long the card doesn't do DMA, you're OK. The SMC 80xx
series are quite nice cards, quite good performance, and don't do
DMA. The only cards that do DMA are the NE2100 and similar Lance
designs.. at least as far as supported cards go.
--rafal
|Tom
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t...@haven.uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) writes:
|In article <3ku97j$e...@panix.com>, jh...@panix.com (John Hawkinson) says:
|>In <3kr9cj$2...@enigma.uniserve.com> t...@haven.uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) writes:
|>>Does NetBSD/i386 support bounce buffers for DMA to ISA devices
|>>on machines with >16megs of RAM?
|>At present, no it does not.
[...]
| Well, I guess 16bit ethernet cards are out then. What is a good
|PCI ethernet card for NetBSD1.0?
Well, as long the card doesn't do DMA, you're OK. The SMC 80xx
series are quite nice cards, quite good performance, and don't do
DMA. The only cards that do DMA are the NE2100 and similar Lance
designs.. at least as far as supported cards go.
Actually, it can even do DMA, as long as it uses the built-in DMA
controller and kernel DMA routines (these have been "bounce-buffered"
for a long time). Only things that do their own DMA (like SCSI
controllers) require a general bounce-buffer solution that isn't
implemented in NetBSD yet.
I don't know of any ethernet cards that have problems in machines with
>16MB RAM.
Kenneth Stailey
>>
>>In <3kr9cj$2...@enigma.uniserve.com> t...@haven.uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) writes:
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>>>on machines with >16megs of RAM?
>>
>>
>>
>>or has plans to; if you'd like to volunteer...
>
Wrong, 16bit ethernet cards do work. I think that disk controllers
map their DMA buffers into the system's memory, but ethernet cards map
the system's memory into their DMA buffers.
> What is a good PCI ethernet card for NetBSD1.0?
If you have the option to use PCI then do it. ISA has more problems
than its DMA.
Look at ftp.netbsd.org.:/pub/NetBSD-current/src/distrib/notes/i386/hardware
for the compatibility list.
jason baker
In article <Pine.LNX.3.91.95033...@HANDALF.module.vympel.msk.ru> "Vladimir I.Ulogov" <vlad...@handalf.module.vympel.msk.ru> writes:
Vladimir> On 18 Mar 1995, Tom Samplonius wrote:
>> When is the next release of NetBSD?
Vladimir> FTP: sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk /pub/NetBSD
Cool, i386 current binaries. Why are these on sunsite...uk
and not ftp.netbsd.org?
Jason
Andrew Gillham
> series are quite nice cards, quite good performance, and don't do
> DMA. The only cards that do DMA are the NE2100 and similar Lance
> designs.. at least as far as supported cards go.
>
> --rafal
Actually the buffers for the ethernet devices are allocated at
boot time and don't change, so it is assumed that they will be
located in the lower 16MB. (though nothing is done to ensure they
are) So ethernet cards that support DMA should be fine.
-Andrew
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Tom Samplonius
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>On 18 Mar 1995, Tom Samplonius wrote:
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>>
This is a pointer to a NetBSD archive (I'm guessing because I couln't
actually locate this directory), but I was asking WHEN, not WHERE.
Tom
James R Grinter
actually, for sunsite.doc, that's /packages/NetBSD/
but it doesn't really answer the question.
James.