** WHERE ** have all the true hackers gone?? (...sob! sniffle...)
Daniel Ortmann
Where have all the real hackers gone?
Please consider retrieving more current source code and more often. Dig
into it at least a little bit more! Be MORE agressive! That is what
FreeBSD is all about!
If it is broke then FIX it!
No guts? No glory! :-)
Peter Much
Daniel Ortmann <ort...@plains.NoDak.edu> wrote:
>Please consider retrieving more current source code and more often. Dig
>into it at least a little bit more! Be MORE agressive! That is what
>FreeBSD is all about!
Why should one?
Speaking for myself, i did run linux for more than a year, having about
two unreproducible kernel errors each day (all of them kernel-hardware-
interrupt-losses; these reproduced on about a dozen systems). I had to
notice the linux community being not interested in debugging this, since
it would give crashes only under seldom circumstances and with highly
overloaded systems.
Now I have changed to NetBSD/i386 and am very, very happy, since the kind
of handling i knew (from Xenix286) still seems possible - together with
X and network.
So what should i do now? Everything runs, no errors, at least all misbe-
haviours turn out to be simple configuration matters or some missing files,
easily to be fetched from their distributions. And i was not yet able to
crash it, in any way. (Not even by accidentially repartitioning a swap-
space-bearing disk - only lost the console, could cleanup&shutdown via
telnet.) I got already more than i expected.
The only thing i'm urgently missing is true ISDN network support for IP,
but i haven't read anything about that yet in the news.
Peter
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jmonroy
: Hey guy'sers and gal'sers...
:
Alas, a cry from the timid thunder. Listen friend,
many have tried and I am sad to report that BSD is
on it's death bed. Sorry to say. It's not this NT
thing you hear about, nor is it a '95 thing. It simply
a matter of where is reality.....
Many of us look for an inner road, we find frustration.
Many of us think that there is a difference we can make,
We can. However, arrogance, pride and some-with-selfish
motives are driving with much more persistance. So, we
step aside, watch them slide, and come back -to look- into
the eyes of that which we fear most AND we go on.
A wannabe asked me the other day, "I want to learn this
new wonderous Operating system. Will you teach me?"
My response was, "are you prepared to go up against the
wall and be beaten with a leather whip all day long?"
She said, "NO that would be painful."
"Then youu not ready, please leave.", I reponded.
"Well, maybe you can teach me -- just the basic."
I ignored her; I went on.
I was then asked, "Why is it so difficult?"
My response:
The world is made up of a few bright people that
run around and cheer the crowd. They say, "Look What
we can do. This is great. Let's do it."
And the crowd in the anxiousness of it all says,
"Yes! This is great. Let's do it! Let's do more."
Much later, to their suprise, they are not prepared.
They are not ready.
So, they call on a guy (person) that can fix it.
He is fat, he has a beer-barrel-belly and he has
smelly armpits.
He fixes the problem. The crowd cheers. They rant, rave
are excited and they continue with the general excitment.
Meanwhile, the guy who fixed the problem is now layed-off.
No need for a fat guy with smelly armpits.
Jordan K. Hubbard
> [Say.. WHAT?]
Announcer: "Hooboy! Let's look to the judge's box for the score that one,
shall we?"
"They're still scribbling.. The tension is almost palpable.. Ok,
they're holding up their cards! And the crowd goes wild!"
Incoherency.... 9.5
Raving (pointless).... 9.6
Raving (unintelligible).... 9.7
Raving (utterly confusing).... 9.9
Misspellings.... 9.1 [co-announcer: "Ooh, that's gotta sting a
little! He did much better at the
regional championships in Montreal last
year!" ]
Mixed metaphors.... 9.7
Impenetrable logic.... 9.9
Bizarre conclusions.... 9.8
"YES! That's an average score of 9.65, folks, and Jesus Monroy TAKES
THE GOLD HERE TODAY! The crowd is on its feet! You can hear the cheering
all the way up here in the press box, folks, it's a very emotional moment!
Jesus is running around in the USENET arena, replendescent in his trademark
pink tutu and Napoleon hat, blowing kisses to all and sundry. And who can
blame him, folks? It's been a bravura performance from the man they all said
couldn't do it again after the '94 Palo Alto exhibition. That he was washed
up, finished in this business, well folks I have to wipe a tear from my eye
because he's certainly proven them all wrong today! The crowd.. The crowd
is giving him a standing ovation, ladies and gentlemen, and who has deserved
it more at this exhibition? A simply *stunning* performance here today from
the man that wowed them in Montreal with his now famous "a POX on the
programmer, a tort of consequence" posting and who did it again at the
Palo Alto games with his "fairings" posting. Yes, it's been a long vacation
from the man they call "the jester of USENET", but he's back with a vengence!"
[co-announcer, who has been trying vainly for the last 5 minutes to break in
with a comment] "Yes, Frank, that he is! Uh... An amazing performance!
I wet myself in utter confusion almost 4 times!"
[Zoom in for a moment on small figure in tutu and hat who is doing a
precarious victory dance on top of an ADM3A video terminal. Break for
commercial.]
Terry Lambert
[ ... noted humorist follows up Jesus Monroy ... ]
I have to say that I understood Jesus's post, and while I don't
agree with a lot of the cynical conclusions he implies, I do
understand where he is coming from.
On the other hand, Jesus, for Microsoft to squish something
with an inferior product, that inferior product has to at
least work sufficiently well for the trade off to be worth
it. At the present time, it is not.
Windows95's biggest competitor is previous versions of Windows
and (now that Novell's DR DOS is dead) Microsoft's own DOS.
And Microsoft has never shown the willingness of IBM to kill
a successful product line in favor of a new line.
Unlike Novell, I am unwilling to grant them total ownership of
the desktop by defaulting.
Terry Lambert
te...@cs.weber.edu
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Michael L. VanLoon
[Story about a reticent sage with a big belly and smelly armpits
deleted]
Oh Gawd I about laughed my lungs out on that one...
Jesus, whatever faults you have, you just might make it yet as a
comedy writer...
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jmonroy
: Announcer: "Hooboy! Let's look to the judge's box for the score that one,
: shall we?"
Jordan,
Can you please call me? It's quite obvious that your
have a better connection to qualudes than I do. It's not
often that I get a flowered letter from you. And low and
behold, it's practically useless. Due in the context of my
response, yours seems to be right in line with the
concerted effort to make yourself look like a complete ass.
Touche' you have me at your disposal, and you are the
victoria.