Q: Can Encore notation software do nested tuplets?
T2B1
example a quater note triplet with a sixteenth note pentuplet in place of the
second quarter note. (you know John Williams kind of stuff) Since Passport is
out of business don't know where to go for this info...any suggestions?
Thanks in advance....
Michael Gula
And where does John Williams use nested tuplets?
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I remember playing a medely of Star Wars themes that had a lot of nested
tuplets. Particularly in the brass fanfares. Almost impossible to read but
easy if you've heard the tunes before.
Thanks to everyone that responded.
Michael Francis
Yes, G-vox is now in charge, but the 4.1.1 version is the SAME as the last
Passport version, and they aren't giving much support for the product I've
found out. And if you're ALREADY an owner, you can upgrade for $149, to
basically a version fix. Geez, thanks guys.
As to the nested tuplets question, yes, Encore can do it (at least the
4.1.1 version I use.) I've tried this and it works musically, but maybe
not visually. Click on the 1/4 note, then Tuplet tool, place your first
note. Then double click on the tuplet tool, and the tuplet choice box
comes up. Enter 5:1 as the choice. Now click on the 1/16th note and
tuplet tools, then enter your 5 1/16th notes. Then double click the tuplet
tool again and change back to 3:2 for your last note. This PLAYS
correctly. It looks wrong though, as you get a 1/4 note with a 3 over it,
five 1/16th notes, three beamed, and two separate with 5's over them, and
the last 1/4 note with a 3 over it. You can highlight the nested pentuplet
and beam, so you have a 1/4 with a 3, the 5 beamed 1/16ths beamed with one
5 tieing them together, and the last 1/4 with a three. The only other
choice is to highlight the two beats (1/4 note tuplet) and beam together,
which results in the 7 notes being bracketed, but with a 5.
Obviously not a PERFECT way to do things, but the bottom line is that it
PLAYS correctly.
Good luck.
Michael Francis
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t2...@aol.com (T2B1) wrote:
> I use Encore for composition and would like to write nested tuplets.
For
> example a quater note triplet with a sixteenth note pentuplet in
place of the
> second quarter note. (you know John Williams kind of stuff) Since
Passport is
> out of business don't know where to go for this info...any
suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance....
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I think you can trick Encore into doing this by first, putting as many
notes as you want in the final measure, using notes short enough to
fit . . . e.g., say that in 4/4 time you want to end up with triplet
quarter notes and pentuplet eighth notes for total of nine notes, so
put nine 16th notes into the measure in the staff positions you want.
Now SELECT the three triplets, go to NOTES - DURATION and choose the
quarter note and triplet 3/2. ENTER. Now mark the five notes you want
as pentuplet eights, got to NOTES-DURATION again and choose the
eighth note and put 5/2 in the tuplet box. ENTER. You wind up with
three quartere notes and five eight notes that Encore normally
wouldn't let you put in a 4/4/ measure, and it plays correctly (i.e.,
wierdly!!!).
Yes, GVOX bought the remnants of Passport, but they do not answer
e-mail. I have not tried their non toll free number.
Will Connelly
Roaring Tusker Jazz Band
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the pentuplet sixteenths: Normal sixteenth pentuplets would be at a 5:4
ratio (5 notes where 4 notes would be, just as a triplet has 3 notes
where 2 notes should be: thus 3:2 for normal triplets) However, in this
case, where the pentuplet is a subdivision of a Larger Quarter-note
Triplet, the resultant ratio is closer to 5:3, since the quarter-note
triplet represents 12 sixteenth notes on 2 beats. Therefore, there
would normally be 6 of these sixteenth-notes per beat where there would
have been 4, making a ratio of 6:4. Applying the same math to a
pentuplet gives a ratio of 5:3.33 or three and one-third. So, since we
can't designate a ratio of five to three and one-third in Encore, we
have to settle for the nearest thing to it which is 5:3. This will play
correctly for all intents and purposes, but we still have no way to
show the proper bracketing. I would let the pentuplet bracket stand,
and add lines and a text-box "3" over the top of the whole group.
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> I use Encore for composition and would like to write nested tuplets. For
> example a quater note triplet with a sixteenth note pentuplet in place of the
> second quarter note. (you know John Williams kind of stuff) Since Passport is
> out of business don't know where to go for this info...any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance....
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