Is there a way NOT to have these HUGE 100Apple100 101Apple DCIM directories?

[Ger Robertson]

When I connect my iOS7 mobile device via USB to my Linux laptop, two
mount points show up, one of which is the private space of applications:
http://i61.tinypic.com/r7tyj5.jpg

The other mount point contains DCIM, among other things:
http://i57.tinypic.com/ezrja9.jpg

In DCIM are huuuuuuuge directories, named 100Apple, 101Apple, etc.
http://i57.tinypic.com/2w4ctie.jpg

Is there an iPad setting which will make those huuuuuuge 101Apple
directories contain fewer files?

If not, is it safe to just manually (from Linux) break those 101Apple
directories into appropriately named sub hierarchies, e.g.,
"my_vacation", "work_pictures", "renaissance_fair", etc.?

[nospam]

In article <m0ao2a$6iv$1...@news.albasani.net>, Ger Robertson

<some...@something.invalid> wrote:

> When I connect my iOS7 mobile device via USB to my Linux laptop, two
> mount points show up, one of which is the private space of applications:
> http://i61.tinypic.com/r7tyj5.jpg
>
> The other mount point contains DCIM, among other things:
> http://i57.tinypic.com/ezrja9.jpg
>
> In DCIM are huuuuuuuge directories, named 100Apple, 101Apple, etc.
> http://i57.tinypic.com/2w4ctie.jpg
>
> Is there an iPad setting which will make those huuuuuuge 101Apple
> directories contain fewer files?

no.

> If not, is it safe to just manually (from Linux) break those 101Apple
> directories into appropriately named sub hierarchies, e.g.,
> "my_vacation", "work_pictures", "renaissance_fair", etc.?

definitely not.

the folders are automatically generated and managed as each one fills,
just like many other digital cameras.

once you copy the photos to a computer, you can do whatever you want.

[Ger Robertson]

nospam wrote, on Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:47:16 -0400:

> the folders are automatically generated and managed as each one fills,
> just like many other digital cameras.

I understand.
On Android, you can change the name of the "/DCIM/Camera" directory to
whatever you want, from Linux, and while the directory is still on the
Android phone. The mount point usually has a momentary glitch, because
the "Camera" directory no longer exists, but then it recovers. The
"Gallery" app on the Android phone sees all the files no matter what sub
folder you put them in.

I tried that same trick, with my iPad, and the iPad suddenly lost all the
photos. I had to move them back into the huuuuuuge 101Apple directories,
and then the iPad saw them again.

I was hoping there was a setting to make that directory somewhat
manageable, without it filling with a thousand (literally) files.

> once you copy the photos to a computer, you can do whatever you want.

Yes. I know.
But, I use my Android and iOS devices as storage devices.

[Savageduck]

On 2014-09-29 04:43:54 +0000, Ger Robertson <some...@something.invalid> said:

> When I connect my iOS7 mobile device via USB to my Linux laptop, two
> mount points show up, one of which is the private space of applications:
> http://i61.tinypic.com/r7tyj5.jpg
>
> The other mount point contains DCIM, among other things:
> http://i57.tinypic.com/ezrja9.jpg
>
> In DCIM are huuuuuuuge directories, named 100Apple, 101Apple, etc.
> http://i57.tinypic.com/2w4ctie.jpg

Well you have been shooting photos like a very snap happy fellow. How
many selfies do you have you taken on your vacation, at work, and at
the renaissance fair?.
Where did you think all those fine image & video files were stored?

> Is there an iPad setting which will make those huuuuuuge 101Apple
> directories contain fewer files?

No.

> If not, is it safe to just manually (from Linux) break those 101Apple
> directories into appropriately named sub hierarchies, e.g.,
> "my_vacation", "work_pictures", "renaissance_fair", etc.?

Copy the folders or image files to your computer. Then delete whatever
image files you don't want on the iPhone. Once on your computer sort to
your heart's content.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

[Savageduck]

That is not a good permanent storage solution, for the iOS devices
anyway. If you are not happy moving the files to a computer with or
without some form of archive storage, then consider a cloud solution of
some type iCloud, Dropbox, Box, etc.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

[Davoud]

Ger Robertson:

> On Android, you can change the name of the "/DCIM/Camera" directory to

> whatever you want, from Linux...The "Gallery" app on the Android phone

> sees all the files no matter what sub folder you put them in.

> I tried that same trick, with my iPad, and the iPad suddenly lost all the
> photos.

You've got the wrong tablet. Get an Android. The iPad was meant 1) to
insulate the user from iOS for ease of use. That's a negative for you,
but Apple would not have sold more than half a billion iOS devices if
it were any other way. Surely you can understand why Apple chose to go
for the half-billion + rather than a few Linux users who don't really
want to use the device so much as play with its operating system. 2) to
be used with iTunes on Mac OS or Windoze.

Get an Android.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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[Ger Robertson]

Davoud wrote, on Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:13:47 -0400:

> Get an Android.

I have Android.
And iOS.
And Linux.
And Windows.
And the Macbook.

I like learning how to make them work the way "I" want them to work.
I agree, it's much harder, for me, to get the iOS devices to "do things".

But, much of that is simply that I don't know (yet) how to get the Apple
devices to do what I want them to do.

That's why I had asked.

I had tried making the desired directories, and it screwed up the
"Photos" view (they simply disappeared even though they were clearly
there).

So, I thought there might be a setting.

Anyway, it's not critical, so, I will just give up because I have many
other tasks to try to get the thing to do.

Thanks for the advice.

[Savageduck]

The important thing to remember when dealing with the iOS photo catalog
system is, all the image files are in one repository. The images found
in any albums are in effect just aliases pointing back to the parent
file. Rearranging and moving those original image files into what you
want using your computer, is going to disrupt the iOS sandbox file
system. If the file isn't where the app expects to find it, it doesn't
exist.

The "desired directories" are your desire, and not possible in iOS.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

[Ger Robertson]

Savageduck wrote, on Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:03:04 -0700:

> Rearranging and moving those original image files into what you want
> using your computer, is going to disrupt the iOS sandbox file system. If
> the file isn't where the app expects to find it, it doesn't exist.

Now you tell me! :)

(I'm just kidding.)

I did learn this the hard way.
The good news is that I had backed up the files before messing with the
folder names, but, I must say, there's almost no problem doing this on
Android, by way of contrast.

Still, I'm OK with dropping this question as the answer seems to be it
"can" be done (changing the names) but it shouldn't be done (because it
screws things up).

Thanks.

[nospam]

In article <m0c8jm$2af$1...@news.albasani.net>, Ger Robertson

<some...@something.invalid> wrote:

> > Rearranging and moving those original image files into what you want
> > using your computer, is going to disrupt the iOS sandbox file system. If
> > the file isn't where the app expects to find it, it doesn't exist.
>
> Now you tell me! :)
>
> (I'm just kidding.)
>
> I did learn this the hard way.
> The good news is that I had backed up the files before messing with the
> folder names, but, I must say, there's almost no problem doing this on
> Android, by way of contrast.

i highly doubt it works without issue on *any* platform since you're
changing the path out from under the apps that might be relying on it.

what if an app had one or more of those photos open when you went in
there and changed it all around?

in other words, you're on thin ice and have been *very* lucky it didn't
fuck things over.

> Still, I'm OK with dropping this question as the answer seems to be it
> "can" be done (changing the names) but it shouldn't be done (because it
> screws things up).

it will.