What free text nntp usenet newsreader do you use for the iOS7 iPad?

[Howard Schornstein]

What is a good free newsgroup nntp usenet newsreader for the iPad?

I searched the App Store for a free text newsreader on the iPad with
iOS7 & first tried "NewsTap Lite", which I soon deleted NewsTap
because it only handled a single newsgroup.

I then installed "TU-News", but deleted that because it wasn't even
a USENET newsreader (even though it came up in the App Store as such).

I then installed and tested "openHAB", which, likewise, shouldn't
even be listed by the App Store when one searches for a NNTP
USENET newsreader. I soon deleted "openHab".

Having exhausted the little that existed in the App Store, googling,
I soon found PhoNews handles multiple nntp usenet news servers and
it works on the iPad, according to this "Overview of great Usenet
mobile applications" at:
http://usenetreviewz.com/overview-of-great-usenet-mobile-applications/

But, searching specifically for "PhoNews" in the App Store, I can't
find it on the iPad, nor is it even listed in the canonical Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders

Getting a bit exasperated that it's so hard to find something as
simple as a free text newsreader, I would like to ask this community
what they use for their free text nntp USENET news reader on the iPad.

[nospam]

In article <li18r4$5ec$1...@news.albasani.net>, Howard Schornstein

<HowardSc...@aol.com> wrote:

> What is a good free newsgroup nntp usenet newsreader for the iPad?

there aren't any.

> I searched the App Store for a free text newsreader on the iPad with
> iOS7 & first tried "NewsTap Lite", which I soon deleted NewsTap
> because it only handled a single newsgroup.

the lite version is limited to one group so you can test out the app to
see if you like it enough to buy the paid version, which supports
multiple groups.

however, newstap isn't particularly good.

usenet is not a high demand thing and certainly not worth the effort to
develop, so therefore the options are very, very limited.

[Nalayni Gunan]

Howard Schornstein wrote, on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:41:08 +0000:

> What is a good free newsgroup nntp usenet newsreader for the iPad?

In general, there are very few offerings on ios as compared to android.

Your best bet is to first find it on android, which almost certainly
has whatever you need, and then see if someone has ported that to
ios.

The real problem is that Apple ios is very limited in apps.

[Jolly Roger]

LOL! Good one!

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[nospam]

In article <bqiq0n...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> What is a good free newsgroup nntp usenet newsreader for the iPad?
> >
> > In general, there are very few offerings on ios as compared to android.
> >
> > Your best bet is to first find it on android, which almost certainly
> > has whatever you need, and then see if someone has ported that to
> > ios.
> >
> > The real problem is that Apple ios is very limited in apps.
>
> LOL! Good one!

it's definitely more limited in what can be done. no question about
that.

however, usenet is not anything that's high demand so the choices are
limited no matter what the platform. the usenet readers on android suck
only a little less than they do on ios.

[bob mullen]

On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:50:11 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it's definitely more limited in what can be done.
> no question about that.

I used Groundhog on Android for free usenet news.
Is Groundhog on Apple yet?

[bob mullen]

On 8 Apr 2014 17:29:59 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> LOL! Good one!

The problem isn't the usenet newsreader. The problem is
that you are severely limited on app choices on Apple as
compared to android.

For example, search for a WiFi Sniffer on Android, and
you'll find dozens (eg Inssider, wifi analyzer, pcap capture,
wi-fi finder, meraki wifi stumbler, wifi Tracker, wigle, etc).

Search on the Apple app store, and you'll find .... zero!

You can't even get a simple free offline map app like
MapFactor Navigator on the Apple App Store!

So the chances of finding a good usenet newsreader on Apple
is nearly zero when there are over 30 of them on Android,
last I looked (which was a few minutes ago).

[Lloyd E Parsons]

Yet after looking at them on my now dust collecting Android tablets,
none are as good as NewsTap on iOS. Yeah, it ain't free, costs about
what you could dig out of your couch.

and NewsTap isn't considered to be all that good by many.

--
Lloyd

[nospam]

In article <li1n72$8gv$1...@news.albasani.net>, bob mullen

<bob.m...@foundry.com> wrote:

> The problem isn't the usenet newsreader. The problem is
> that you are severely limited on app choices on Apple as
> compared to android.

more limited yes. severely limited, no. widgets are the biggest
limitation.

there are also some things that can be done on ios that can't be done
on android, at least not easily.

nothing is perfect.

> For example, search for a WiFi Sniffer on Android, and
> you'll find dozens (eg Inssider, wifi analyzer, pcap capture,
> wi-fi finder, meraki wifi stumbler, wifi Tracker, wigle, etc).
>
> Search on the Apple app store, and you'll find .... zero!

the apis for that are private. that might change one day, or it might
not.

if it does change and there are public apis, then there will be a bunch
of wifi scanners.

> You can't even get a simple free offline map app like
> MapFactor Navigator on the Apple App Store!

there are quite a few offline map apps on ios, both free and paid.

not only that, but the built-in maps app works quite well when offline
with the map tiles it has cached, which is almost always more area than
you will be driving in a day.

> So the chances of finding a good usenet newsreader on Apple
> is nearly zero when there are over 30 of them on Android,
> last I looked (which was a few minutes ago).

most of them crap. i've tried quite a few.

nothing stops anyone from writing a usenet reader for ios. the problem
is that there's not enough of a demand to justify bothering. very few
people are interested in usenet readers.

[Ben Ritchey]

I use Newstap, works great for me (dozen or less groups)
--
Ben aka cMech http://cmech.dynip.com

[Michelle Steiner]

In article <li18r4$5ec$1...@news.albasani.net>, Howard Schornstein
<HowardSc...@aol.com> wrote:

> I would like to ask this community what they use for their free text
> nntp USENET news reader on the iPad.

I don't; I use the paid version of newstap when I access usenet from my
iPad or iPhone, but I don't often do that.

[Savageduck]

On 2014-04-08 20:46:18 +0000, bob mullen <bob.m...@foundry.com> said:

> On 8 Apr 2014 17:29:59 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> LOL! Good one!
>
> The problem isn't the usenet newsreader. The problem is
> that you are severely limited on app choices on Apple as
> compared to android.
>
> For example, search for a WiFi Sniffer on Android, and
> you'll find dozens (eg Inssider, wifi analyzer, pcap capture,
> wi-fi finder, meraki wifi stumbler, wifi Tracker, wigle, etc).
>
> Search on the Apple app store, and you'll find .... zero!

Try OpenSignal:
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/opensignal/id598298030?mt=8 >

> You can't even get a simple free offline map app like
> MapFactor Navigator on the Apple App Store!

Then I guess you missed these, there are quite a few more:
MapsWithMe:
<
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maps-with-me-lite-offline-map/id431183278?mt=8
>
MapsWithMe Pro:
<
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maps-with-me-pro-offline-map/id510623322?mt=8
>
Galileo:
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/galileo-offline-maps/id321745474?mt=8 >
TopoMaps:
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/topo-maps/id306014271?mt=8 >
Offline Topo Maps:
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/offline-topo-maps/id376535806?mt=8 >
Maps+:
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maps+/id416753449?mt=8 >
MapQuest:
<
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mapquest-maps-gps-voice-navigation/id316126557?mt=8

>

> So the chances of finding a good usenet newsreader on Apple
> is nearly zero when there are over 30 of them on Android,
> last I looked (which was a few minutes ago).

If you want to deal with multiple newsgroups on an iPad your only real
option is the $3.99 NewsTap, not the free NewsTap Lite.
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/newstap-usenet-newsreader/id292410356?mt=8 >


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Regards,

Savageduck

[Rodruigo Garcia]

Michelle Steiner wrote, on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:10:05 -0700:

> I use the paid version of newstap

Michelle is using the best you can find for the iPad.
Unfortunately for you, you will never have the selection that
is available on Android.

It didn't used to be that way, years ago, but now iOS,
unfortunately, is very limited in what it can do as compared
to Android.

On Android you would have the choice of these free nntp
usenet news readers for text & binary newsgroups:
Groundhog Usenet Reader, by Zoldar
News Reader, by John LI
Android News Reader, by Pinenuts
Leaf News Reader, by LeafNet
Android Usenet Reader, by Ken Tsang
Newsbuddy, by Wiesner
Newsgroup Reader by Chinese Characters
PhoNews Usenet Reader, by Grach
and a lot of others I have never heard of.

On iOS, all you have is NewsTap, and that's about it.

But, you knew that the iPad would be limited in terms
of what apps it has, and, you simply need to get used
to putting your hands into your wallet, as the solution
to the hard work of thinking is simply to pay others to
think for you. It's the iOS way of doing things, and, it
works for more people than Android does (which takes more
thinking and a LOT less money to get the job done).

[nospam]

In article
<49643$534880aa$43da7656$19...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>,

Rodruigo Garcia <Rodruigo.Garc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I use the paid version of newstap
>
> Michelle is using the best you can find for the iPad.
> Unfortunately for you, you will never have the selection that
> is available on Android.
>
> It didn't used to be that way, years ago, but now iOS,
> unfortunately, is very limited in what it can do as compared
> to Android.

the only limitation is you can't do certain things such as widgets or
have access to hardware apis.

there is *no* limitation in writing a usenet reader on ios.

the issue is that there's too little demand to bother.

> On Android you would have the choice of these free nntp
> usenet news readers for text & binary newsgroups:
> Groundhog Usenet Reader, by Zoldar
> News Reader, by John LI
> Android News Reader, by Pinenuts
> Leaf News Reader, by LeafNet
> Android Usenet Reader, by Ken Tsang
> Newsbuddy, by Wiesner
> Newsgroup Reader by Chinese Characters
> PhoNews Usenet Reader, by Grach
> and a lot of others I have never heard of.

having tried many of those, i can safely say none of those are
particularly good.

> On iOS, all you have is NewsTap, and that's about it.
>
> But, you knew that the iPad would be limited in terms
> of what apps it has, and, you simply need to get used
> to putting your hands into your wallet, as the solution
> to the hard work of thinking is simply to pay others to
> think for you. It's the iOS way of doing things, and, it
> works for more people than Android does (which takes more
> thinking and a LOT less money to get the job done).

nonsense. it's easier to write ios software and most ios apps are free,
either ad supported or a 'freemium' model.

android takes more time and money because there are so many different
devices on which to test, each with their own quirks, and a *very* wide
range of android versions to support. plus, the development tools are
not as refined (and that's from someone who hates xcode).

that's one reason why most software is ios first, then android, unless
there's a big enough budget to do both at the same time.

even if there is a big budget, sometimes it's still ios first, notably
microsoft office and adobe lightroom.

[technomaNge]

On 04/11/2014 07:42 PM, nospam wrote:

>
> nonsense. it's easier to write ios software and most ios apps are free,
> either ad supported or a 'freemium' model.
>

So when will the app you are writing be available?



technomaNge
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[Lloyd E Parsons]

On 2014-04-11 23:54:18 +0000, Rodruigo Garcia said:

> Michelle Steiner wrote, on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:10:05 -0700:
>
>> I use the paid version of newstap
>
> Michelle is using the best you can find for the iPad.
> Unfortunately for you, you will never have the selection that
> is available on Android.
>
> It didn't used to be that way, years ago, but now iOS,
> unfortunately, is very limited in what it can do as compared
> to Android.
>
> On Android you would have the choice of these free nntp
> usenet news readers for text & binary newsgroups:
> Groundhog Usenet Reader, by Zoldar
> News Reader, by John LI
> Android News Reader, by Pinenuts
> Leaf News Reader, by LeafNet
> Android Usenet Reader, by Ken Tsang
> Newsbuddy, by Wiesner
> Newsgroup Reader by Chinese Characters
> PhoNews Usenet Reader, by Grach
> and a lot of others I have never heard of.

None of which are very good at all. NewsTap isn't rated as all that
good by many of us that use it, but from my experience with Android,
nothing for usenet there is nearly as good.

>
> On iOS, all you have is NewsTap, and that's about it.
>
> But, you knew that the iPad would be limited in terms
> of what apps it has, and, you simply need to get used
> to putting your hands into your wallet, as the solution
> to the hard work of thinking is simply to pay others to
> think for you. It's the iOS way of doing things, and, it
> works for more people than Android does (which takes more
> thinking and a LOT less money to get the job done).

LOL!

Android certainly is no more difficult to use than iOS. And yes, you
can buy some el-cheapo box that has it, but it won't be very good.

--
Lloyd

[nospam]

In article <slrnlkk783....@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> The only iOS newsreader is NewsTap ($5) and it's utter crap.

there's one or two others and makes newstap look awesome.