What's the trick to get the iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c?

[Danny D.]

My sister told me she was buying a new printer because nobody
could get her iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c, but,
I looked that printer up, and it has WiFi so it should work.

Is there anything special needed for an iPad to print to a
multifunction WiFi printer?

[nospam]

In article <lunkdt$bll$4...@dont-email.me>, Danny D.

airprint.

[Danny D.]

nospam wrote, on Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:36:25 -0400:

> airprint.

I googled, and the closest HP to the HP OfficeJet J4680c that
AirPrint supports is the "HP Officejet 4630 e-All-in-One Printer series",
but, this HP Support article on the subject:
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/ePrint-Print-Apps-Mobile-Printing-and-ePrintCenter/Can-I-print-from-my-ipad-using-an-hp-officejet-j4680/td-p/1526413

Lists these printers that work with the iPad:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4356

But the HP OfficeJet J4680c isn't in that list.
You'd think an iPad would just print to any device that was wireless,
and that an HP printer would be something that would "just work".

[nospam]

In article <lunv6b$l71$1...@dont-email.me>, Danny D.

ios prints to anything with airprint. that's its universal print
driver. simply having wifi is not enough. google has something similar
called cloudprint.

for printers without airprint (or cloudprint), you can create a server
on a computer to print on a printer it knows about.

[John Hill]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> for printers without airprint (or cloudprint), you can create a server
> on a computer to print on a printer it knows about.

Can you give ma a reference for this? I have a non-WiFi printer (Canon
MG5150) connected to an iMac using Mavericks. Printer Sharing is On.

While I have no immediate *need* to print from my Pad, I'd like to know
if it's pssible and if so, how to do it :-)

John.
--
Please reply to john at yclept dot wanadoo dot co dot uk.

[nospam]

In article <1lrr3gx.1mdjy0z1xuhyd2N%ne...@erewhon.invalid>, John Hill

<ne...@erewhon.invalid> wrote:

> > for printers without airprint (or cloudprint), you can create a server
> > on a computer to print on a printer it knows about.
>
> Can you give ma a reference for this? I have a non-WiFi printer (Canon
> MG5150) connected to an iMac using Mavericks. Printer Sharing is On.

search for airprint server.

among what you'll find is software you can install and hardware devices.

i've never used any of these and there is more than likely other
options available:
<http://www.ecamm.com/mac/printopia/>
<http://www.netputing.com/handyprint/>
<http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/xprintserver/xprintserver.html>

there are also apps that work with non-airprint printers but those are
a pain because you have to use the printer app to do the printing, not
the app you want to print from.

[Danny D.]

nospam wrote, on Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:45:07 -0400:

> for printers without airprint (or cloudprint), you can create a server
> on a computer to print on a printer it knows about.

Thanks for the advice about airprint, cloudprint and the server.

The only devices in that household are a Windows computer and an iPad.
Would Airprint or Cloudprint work or must they have a Mac?

[David Empson]

There is also Windows software which can act as an AirPrint server, e.g.

http://www.airprintactivation.com

This one requires having Apple's Bonjour Print Services installed and
also requires iTunes (both are linked from that page).

I haven't tried it.

--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz

[Danny D.]

Lewis wrote, on Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:12:41 +0000:

> Why do you think it should work?

Well, I'm an old guy. I was already out of college when the
Macintosh came out. In the early days, the Mac just printed
to its printer. And life was grand.

Then the PC came out, and printing was all about having the
right drivers. This lasted for, oh, about a decade, or so.

Then something wonderful happened. PCs could "just print"
to almost any (decent) printer! And it was that way for
the next decade (or so).

From then, until now, you basically bought any Canon or HP
or Brother or Epson, etc, printer, and it "just worked".

Life was grand.

Somewhere within that last period, when Linux started out,
we were (initially) back to the old ugly days of the wild
west, where "just print" printing wasn't all that easy,
but Linux, eventually, slowly at first, came around, such
that (now) printing from Linux distribution to any decent
printer is now (almost) as easy as it is to "just print".

Fast forward to today, and we have a mix of iPads with
Windows and Linux environments, and, well, I see no (good)
reason why the iPad shouldn't "just print".

But, that's not my beef. I'm just answering your question.
If the iPad doesn't play nice with the equipment, it should
at last do something. So, I will try to help her make it
simply print to a common printer using the methods suggested
here.

This "server". I looked at the page nospam linked, but it
seems to be for the Mac only.

Just a general question, is there a way to set up this
"server" to the Windows PC so that it will just print?

[Danny D.]

David Empson wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:39:57 +1200:

> There is also Windows software which can act as an AirPrint server, e.g.
> http://www.airprintactivation.com
> This one requires having Apple's Bonjour Print Services installed and
> also requires iTunes (both are linked from that page).

Ah. Thanks. I had looked at your first suggestion, but it was Mac only.
So, I'll have her try the airprint on Windows.

She probably already has iTunes on the Windows machine,
so Bonjour will likely already be running by default.

I did run a search, and found HP's "EPrint" might work:
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/ePrint-Print-Apps-Mobile-Printing-and-ePrintCenter/Printing-to-HP-officejet-j4680-all-in-one-wireless-printer/td-p/1734715

That says that if AirPrint doesn't work, then HP EPrint may
(which is an app for the iPad):
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c01923321&product=3857218#N85

However, this page lists the printers which support
the ePrint app:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02814760&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3857218#N2025

And, yet again, the P OfficeJet J4680c isn't on that list.
Sigh.

[David Empson]

Danny D. <dannyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David Empson wrote, on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:39:57 +1200:
>
> > There is also Windows software which can act as an AirPrint server, e.g.
> > http://www.airprintactivation.com
> > This one requires having Apple's Bonjour Print Services installed and
> > also requires iTunes (both are linked from that page).
>
> Ah. Thanks. I had looked at your first suggestion, but it was Mac only.

Not my suggestion, that was probably from nospam.

> So, I'll have her try the airprint on Windows.
>
> She probably already has iTunes on the Windows machine,
> so Bonjour will likely already be running by default.

Basic Bonjour support is part of iTunes on Windows, but Bonjour Print
Services is an additional component.

> I did run a search, and found HP's "EPrint" might work:
> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/ePrint-Print-Apps-Mobile-Printing-and-ePrintC
> enter/Printing-to-HP-officejet-j4680-all-in-one-wireless-printer/td-p/1734
> 715
>
> That says that if AirPrint doesn't work, then HP EPrint may
> (which is an app for the iPad):
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c01
> 923321&product=3857218#N85
>
> However, this page lists the printers which support
> the ePrint app:
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02814760&lc=en&cc=us&
> dlc=en&product=3857218#N2025
>
> And, yet again, the P OfficeJet J4680c isn't on that list.
> Sigh.

Even if the app method did work, it may be less convenient as you need
to get the content you want to print into that app. In some cases that
might be tricky.

If you can use AirPrint (either built in to the printer or via a server
application on a computer) then you can print directly from any iPad app
which supports printing.

--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz

[Pat]

Typically, the newer HP printers that support EPrint also support
airprint. (There was a year or two of wi-fi enabled printers that did
not support EPprint or AirPrint.) I finally bought a new printer and
it has worked well with iPhones and iPads. (Note that your wi-fi
router must also support AirPrint but most do). It goes against my
general philosophy to get rid of working devices, but I found a
relative to whom my old printer was a step up so I gave him my old one
and bought a new one with AirPrint. Since they make most of the
profit on the ink, the new ones don't even cost that much.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-09-10, Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> Okay, so one time? In band camp? John Hill <ne...@erewhon.invalid> was all, like:
> --> Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:28:15 +0100 <1lrr3gx.1mdjy0z1xuhyd2N%ne...@erewhon.invalid>

>> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> for printers without airprint (or cloudprint), you can create a server
>>> on a computer to print on a printer it knows about.
>
>> Can you give ma a reference for this? I have a non-WiFi printer (Canon
>> MG5150) connected to an iMac using Mavericks. Printer Sharing is On.
>

><http://www.netputing.com/handyprint/>

I use HandyPrint to print to my Canon ix6520 (USB printer) through Mac
OS X printer sharing on my network, and it works well enough for me.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[Erilar]

My daughter has the correct printer, but I can't print to it from my iPad
when I'm there.
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

[Pat]

>My daughter has the correct printer, but I can't print to it from my iPad
>when I'm there.

You must be on her wi-fi network *and* the printer must have its
AirPrint feature enabled *and* her router must support AirPrint (most,
but not all, do).

[Erilar]

All three were set properly last time we tried it, but it didn't print.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-09-12, Erilar <dra...@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Pat <p...@nospam.us> wrote:
>>> My daughter has the correct printer, but I can't print to it from my iPad
>>> when I'm there.
>>
>> You must be on her wi-fi network *and* the printer must have its
>> AirPrint feature enabled *and* her router must support AirPrint (most,
>> but not all, do).
>
> All three were set properly last time we tried it, but it didn't print.

Did you post to Usenet about it? I'm curious to learn more details.

[Erilar]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-09-12, Erilar <dra...@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> Pat <p...@nospam.us> wrote:
>>>> My daughter has the correct printer, but I can't print to it from my iPad
>>>> when I'm there.
>>>
>>> You must be on her wi-fi network *and* the printer must have its
>>> AirPrint feature enabled *and* her router must support AirPrint (most,
>>> but not all, do).
>>
>> All three were set properly last time we tried it, but it didn't print.
>
> Did you post to Usenet about it? I'm curious to learn more details.

I'll try to do it next time I'm down there if we can't figure it out. That
time I just e-mailed her(across the room) what I wanted printed and she
printed it for me. Where there's a will, there's a way.

[Lee Waun]

"Danny D." <dannyd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:lupj5n$11p$1...@dont-email.me...

I have a epson printer that is for windows and it isn't on the airprint list
but I did find the iprint program and it is printing as I speak wireless a
photo in my iphone to my epson printer.

It doesn't however print emails but it does print word docs and pdf and
photo's and does a lot but I would liked to have been able to use airprint
but this is good enough.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-09-16, Lee Waun <lee...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>
> "Danny D." <dannyd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lupj5n$11p$1...@dont-email.me...
>> nospam wrote, on Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:45:07 -0400:
>>
>>> for printers without airprint (or cloudprint), you can create a server
>>> on a computer to print on a printer it knows about.
>>
>> Thanks for the advice about airprint, cloudprint and the server.
>>
>> The only devices in that household are a Windows computer and an iPad.
>> Would Airprint or Cloudprint work or must they have a Mac?

There are AirPrint servers that run on Windows. Do a web search to find
them.

> I have a epson printer that is for windows and it isn't on the airprint list
> but I did find the iprint program and it is printing as I speak wireless a
> photo in my iphone to my epson printer.
>
> It doesn't however print emails but it does print word docs and pdf and
> photo's and does a lot but I would liked to have been able to use airprint
> but this is good enough.

That may do in a pinch, but as you can see, that's nowhere near as good
a solution as running an AirPrint, which will let you pint anything you
want from any app on the device.

[Shlomo Baumgard]

Jolly Roger wrote, on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:08:11 +0000:

> That may do in a pinch, but as you can see, that's nowhere near as good
> a solution as running an AirPrint, which will let you pint anything you
> want from any app on the device

What I don't understand is why is ios so badly designed that
it requires a kluge like airprint just to print.

Every other platform requires no kluge.

[nospam]

In article <lvaeeo$9k1$1...@solani.org>, Shlomo Baumgard

<Shl...@totally.invalid> wrote:

> > That may do in a pinch, but as you can see, that's nowhere near as good
> > a solution as running an AirPrint, which will let you pint anything you
> > want from any app on the device
>
> What I don't understand is why is ios so badly designed that
> it requires a kluge like airprint just to print.
>
> Every other platform requires no kluge.

not only is airprint not a kludge, but android does exactly the same
thing, called cloud print.

what's a kludge is what mac and windows do, with hundreds of different
printer drivers. eliminating that nonsense an advancement.

[Jolly Roger]

You're mistaking a standardized wireless printing protocol and
implementation for a kludge. With AirPrint there is one single driver,
and any AirPrint capable printer (or AirPrint server) is automatically
compatible, no extra drivers needed. The alternative is to install a
different driver for each make/model of printer out there with the
operating system, which is not a good solution for a modern mobile
operating system. Apple clearly made the right choice here. If you don't
have an AirPrint capable printer yet, it's not hard at all to run an
AirPrint server on your Mac or Windows computer to print to any
connected printer. Also more and more printers are designed with AirPrint
support built-in as time goes on.

[Shlomo Baumgard]

nospam wrote, on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:50:44 -0400:

> what's a kludge is what mac and windows do, with hundreds of different
> printer drivers. eliminating that nonsense an advancement.

You seem to understand the Apple/Android printing model.

On the one hand, on Windows/Linux/Mac, each *printer* has its own
driver (although so-called "universal" drivers do exist), and, once
you install that specific printer-specific driver, then *any* app,
that can display the document on the computer, can then print that
document, to that printer.

As long as the printer is "on the network" (wired or wireless),
you can then print the document to that printer.

I don't fully understand Android/iOS (except that, for the most
part, they don't work), but you seem to understand their model
better than I do.

Are you saying that, on Android/iOS, there is a single printer
driver, which is the "cloud"?

And then, from the cloud, you print, wired or wirelessly, to
the printer?

[xfile]

On 9/10/2014 3:29 AM, Danny D. wrote:
> My sister told me she was buying a new printer because nobody
> could get her iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c, but,
> I looked that printer up, and it has WiFi so it should work.
>
> Is there anything special needed for an iPad to print to a
> multifunction WiFi printer?
>

For HP, they offer three APPs of your choice at APP store, HP ePrint, HP
All-in-one Printer Remote, and HP ePrint Enterprise.

Among all three, I only have limited experience with HP All-in-one
Printer Remote, in the sense of that I successfully installed,
configured, and linked to an HP 8500A Plus printer, and I can see the
printer status whenever I checked on it, but I try not to print out hard
copies whenever I can.

[xfile]

Our science has yet reached to level of eliminating the interface
between an OS/device/computer and a peripheral, such as a printer.
Therefore, one has to have “peripheral/device drivers” so the computer
can talk to the peripheral, or in the case of smartphones and tablets,
APPs provided by the manufacture or others.

Perhaps, someday we won’t need these interfaces but we are not there yet.

[nospam]

In article <lvahnu$9k1$2...@solani.org>, Shlomo Baumgard

<Shl...@totally.invalid> wrote:

> > what's a kludge is what mac and windows do, with hundreds of different
> > printer drivers. eliminating that nonsense an advancement.
>
> You seem to understand the Apple/Android printing model.

as well as the mac/windows printing model.

> On the one hand, on Windows/Linux/Mac, each *printer* has its own
> driver (although so-called "universal" drivers do exist), and, once
> you install that specific printer-specific driver, then *any* app,
> that can display the document on the computer, can then print that
> document, to that printer.

that hasn't changed. *any* app can print to *any* airprint/cloudprint
printer.

the difference is that now you don't have to install printer drivers at
all. it's a step forward.

> As long as the printer is "on the network" (wired or wireless),
> you can then print the document to that printer.

that's still the same, other than the wired part. dealing with wires is
old-school.

> I don't fully understand Android/iOS (except that, for the most
> part, they don't work), but you seem to understand their model
> better than I do.

they work quite well.

> Are you saying that, on Android/iOS, there is a single printer
> driver, which is the "cloud"?
>
> And then, from the cloud, you print, wired or wirelessly, to
> the printer?

printers are connected wirelessly, usually on a local network.

from the app, pick print in the app and print whatever you want. no
need to worry about drivers. it 'just works'.

older printers only need an airprint/cloudprint server on the network
which can be software running on a computer or a hardware box.

it's definitely not a kludge.

[nospam]

In article <lvaig0$fa0$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, xfile <nos...@nospam.com>
wrote:

> Our science has yet reached to level of eliminating the interface
> between an OS/device/computer and a peripheral, such as a printer.
> Therefore, one has to have �peripheral/device drivers� so the computer
> can talk to the peripheral, or in the case of smartphones and tablets,
> APPs provided by the manufacture or others.

actually it has. with airprint/cloudprint, the driver is already built
in. plug in the printer and start printing.

no special apps needed.

[xfile]

I said, "[...]provided by the manufacture or others."

You said, ">the driver is already built in [...]"

I didn't say that no drivers are in built on any platforms. It needs
one regardless of who is doing the job.

[nospam]

In article <lvaj22$gfo$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, xfile <nos...@nospam.com>

wrote:

> >> Our science has yet reached to level of eliminating the interface
> >> between an OS/device/computer and a peripheral, such as a printer.

> >> Therefore, one has to have 3peripheral/device drivers2 so the computer

> >> can talk to the peripheral, or in the case of smartphones and tablets,
> >> APPs provided by the manufacture or others.
> >
> > actually it has. with airprint/cloudprint, the driver is already built
> > in. plug in the printer and start printing.
> >
> > no special apps needed.
> >
>
> I said, "[...]provided by the manufacture or others."
>
> You said, ">the driver is already built in [...]"
>
> I didn't say that no drivers are in built on any platforms. It needs
> one regardless of who is doing the job.

the driver is built into android/ios and it 'just works'.

[xfile]

Yes, but you still missed the point. Build in or not, be generic or
proprietary, for Android, iOS, Windows, Linux, or Mac OS, etc., *it
requires one*.

My initial post was telling Shlomo Baumgard that all platforms need one
way or the other to communicate with peripherals and was NOT meant to
discuss who has done what on each platform and how does it work.

[nospam]

In article <lval2j$k7n$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, xfile <nos...@nospam.com>
wrote:

> Yes, but you still missed the point. Build in or not, be generic or
> proprietary, for Android, iOS, Windows, Linux, or Mac OS, etc., *it
> requires one*.

since the driver is built in, the user need not worry about it anymore.

it 'just works'.

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <lvahnu$9k1$2...@solani.org>, Shlomo Baumgard
> <Shl...@totally.invalid> wrote:

/../

>> On the one hand, on Windows/Linux/Mac, each *printer* has its own
>> driver (although so-called "universal" drivers do exist), and, once
>> you install that specific printer-specific driver, then *any* app,
>> that can display the document on the computer, can then print that
>> document, to that printer.
>
> that hasn't changed. *any* app can print to *any* airprint/cloudprint
> printer.
>
> the difference is that now you don't have to install printer drivers
> at all. it's a step forward.

It seems to me there is some driver for metadata creation, the data that
is sent to the cloud's printer driver must be in some format that can be
understood on the other side.

Also, without knowledge of the capabilities of the final printer, is one
now limited to generic capabilities that may or may not be available on
the final printer?

Or is there a two-way communication (using IPP for example) whereby a
physical printer is first interrogated for capabilities, after which the
printjob is created with capabilities made visible to the user dependent
on what the interrogation results were?

What metadata is the Android asking Apps to use for the printing? Is it
some standard data format, like PDF, or something Android-specific?

/../

> from the app, pick print in the app and print whatever you want. no
> need to worry about drivers. it 'just works'.
>
> older printers only need an airprint/cloudprint server on the network
> which can be software running on a computer or a hardware box.

/../

I'm very curious about this too.
Obviously, I should do some online research also, but the above are the
gist of the issues I am interested in.

Regards,
Gernot Hassenpflug
--
NNTP on Emacs 24.3 from Windows 7

[Shlomo Baumgard]

Jolly Roger wrote, on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:26:25 +0000:

> With AirPrint there is one single driver,
> and any AirPrint capable printer (or AirPrint server) is automatically
> compatible, no extra drivers needed.

That's *exactly* the same thing (as is on Windows/Linux/Mac)!

It's a driver. It's needed. It's required. It won't work without it.
The driver has to fit the printer.
Without the driver, the printer won't print.

It's exactly the same problem as before.

The very real fact the damn driver does *not* fit the desired printer
is proof positive that it's the *same* problem.

[nospam]

In article <lvbanp$9k1$3...@solani.org>, Shlomo Baumgard

<Shl...@totally.invalid> wrote:

> > With AirPrint there is one single driver,
> > and any AirPrint capable printer (or AirPrint server) is automatically
> > compatible, no extra drivers needed.
>
> That's *exactly* the same thing (as is on Windows/Linux/Mac)!

no it isn't at all.

> It's a driver. It's needed. It's required. It won't work without it.
> The driver has to fit the printer.
> Without the driver, the printer won't print.

on mac/windows, you need a different driver for every printer (although
some printer drivers might cover similar models).

with airprint/cloudprint, there is one driver and it's already
installed. there is no need to install anything, including
auto-install.

> It's exactly the same problem as before.
>
> The very real fact the damn driver does *not* fit the desired printer
> is proof positive that it's the *same* problem.

nope.

[Jolly Roger]

*WHOOOSH*

[Shlomo Baumgard]

nospam wrote, on Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:01:10 -0400:

> with airprint/cloudprint, there is one driver and it's already
> installed. there is no need to install anything, including
> auto-install.

Then why doesn't it work with the printer?

[nospam]

In article <lvdlu5$l9a$1...@solani.org>, Shlomo Baumgard

<Shl...@totally.invalid> wrote:

> > with airprint/cloudprint, there is one driver and it's already
> > installed. there is no need to install anything, including
> > auto-install.
>
> Then why doesn't it work with the printer?

because your printer doesn't support airprint or cloudprint.

printers that predate either of those obviously will not be compatible
and not work. how could they?

the best solution is get a printer that supports either or both.

for older printers, there are two solutions:
either install an airprint and/or cloudprint server on a computer to be
able to print to any attached printer, or get a hardware interface box
if you'd rather not leave a computer on all the time.

[Erilar]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
.
>
> for older printers, there are two solutions:
> either install an airprint and/or cloudprint server on a computer to be
> able to print to any attached printer,

I didn't know that was possible. Where do I look?

[Zaidy036]

On 9/9/2014 3:29 PM, Danny D. wrote:
> My sister told me she was buying a new printer because nobody
> could get her iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c, but,
> I looked that printer up, and it has WiFi so it should work.
>
> Is there anything special needed for an iPad to print to a
> multifunction WiFi printer?
>

http://cloudserver.pocketwatchllc.com/

[Jolly Roger]

On 2014-09-19, Erilar <dra...@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> .
>>
>> for older printers, there are two solutions:
>> either install an airprint and/or cloudprint server on a computer to be
>> able to print to any attached printer,
>
> I didn't know that was possible. Where do I look?

A simple web search for "airprint server" will tell you where to look.

[Jolly Roger]

For $149? No thanks. I can run an AirPrint server on my computer for
free.

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of <c7rv90...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> said:

>You're mistaking a standardized wireless printing protocol and
>implementation for a kludge. With AirPrint there is one single driver,
>and any AirPrint capable printer (or AirPrint server) is automatically
>compatible, no extra drivers needed. The alternative is to install a
>different driver for each make/model of printer out there with the
>operating system, which is not a good solution for a modern mobile
>operating system. Apple clearly made the right choice here. If you don't
>have an AirPrint capable printer yet, it's not hard at all to run an
>AirPrint server on your Mac or Windows computer to print to any
>connected printer. Also more and more printers are designed with AirPrint
>support built-in as time goes on.

Apple could have done much better. PCL5/6 over TCP/IP is supported by
the vast majority of network-capable printers out there without any
printer-specific drivers.

Manufacturers prefer for you to use their driver package so that when
you run low on ink, you get their popup which leads you to their
advertising to purchase more, but under the hood, things are moderately
standardized.

But this would have enabled backward compatibility, which is a concept
that scares Apple.

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[nospam]

In article <e7mo1al0a0pmk1phs...@4ax.com>, DevilsPGD

and yet google did the same thing in coming up with cloudprint rather
than your idea of supporting pcl5/6 over tcp/ip.

why does google get a free pass and apple does not?

[Jolly Roger]

Because: trolling.

[Savageduck]

With my Epson XP-610 I have their iPrint App installed on my iDevices.
It prints faultlessly via Wi-Fi and provides access to all of its
function, including ink levels.
<https://db.tt/VWDrmONz>
<https://db.tt/cJP84qRr>

Naturally all it takes is to select the *Print* option wherever it is
available to get a print.


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Savageduck

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of <190920141251061035%nos...@nospam.invalid>,

Because this is comp.mobile.ipad, so discussing iPad and therefore iOS
is on top. I don't currently own any Android or ChromeOS devices, so I
don't have any personal experience there. If I did, I'd be dumping on
them instead.

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It's hard to believe that this model prisoner could be
the same monstrous fiend that once ran for mayor!

[Zaidy036]

On 9/9/2014 3:29 PM, Danny D. wrote:
> My sister told me she was buying a new printer because nobody
> could get her iPad to print to the HP OfficeJet J4680c, but,
> I looked that printer up, and it has WiFi so it should work.
>
> Is there anything special needed for an iPad to print to a
> multifunction WiFi printer?
>

PrinterPro does not require a WiFi printer but must be on same network