Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device? (It's sad that iOS has the SHORTEST update cycle of all common consumer operating systems)

[Andy Burnelli]

Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device? (It's sad that iOS
has the SHORTEST update cycle of all common consumer operating systems)

It's not for me but for a relative.
If this was Android, there would be a billion useful apps.

But it's an iPad.
And, unfortunately, the fact remains... iOS has a very short lifespan.

The proof is simple:

I can't find a _single_ fullscreen clock app for that older iPad.
*How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad/c/3BhpIUh4BnE/m/j6QDG8GZFAAJ>

Can you?
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If you can't, then, well, that's proof of what I've been saying all along.

[nospam]

In article <telv60$ldt$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli

<sp...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device?

there's one already on it, but you'll find something wrong with it to
troll.

[Alan]

On 2022-08-30 14:24, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device? (It's sad that iOS
> has the SHORTEST update cycle of all common consumer operating systems)
>
> It's not for me but for a relative.
> If this was Android, there would be a billion useful apps.
>
> But it's an iPad.
> And, unfortunately, the fact remains... iOS has a very short lifespan.
>
> The proof is simple:
>
> I can't find a _single_ fullscreen clock app for that older iPad.
> *How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad/c/3BhpIUh4BnE/m/j6QDG8GZFAAJ>
>
> Can you?

That's the oldest iPad there is. Not "oldER": "oldEST".

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device?
>
> there's one already on it, but you'll find something wrong with it to
> troll.

I'm trying to help someone.
All you ever do, nospam, is fabricate imaginary iOS app functionality.

You're the opposite of me, nospam, in every way imaginable.
You are cruel. You are despicable. You are a liar. You are mean.

Nothing you say can _ever_ be trusted to be the truth, nospam.
Nothing.

You know this is for a very old lady with very old eyes who hates that her
iPad is worthless in that it can't even do a _single_ useful thing, nospam.

You know we're trying to make this expensive Apple iPad useful, somehow,
perhaps as a full time always-on full-screen digital kitchen clock display.

I don't have that iPad in my hands as it's owned by a relative who asked me
to find some way to make it useful - which - is hard for an iOS device.

Since you fabricate imaginary iOS app functionality all the time, nospam,
(because you _hate_ that iOS is always crippled in basic functionality),
I have to ask you a basic set of questions, all of which need to be yes.

But if this first question isn't a yes, then you simply lied (again)...

Q: *Does that app you claim is on it run full screen all the time?*
(such that the old iPad turns into a full-time kitchen clock)

A: Yes or No?

If it's yes, then I'll tell her over the phone what to do.
If it's no, then you are a cruel despicable unprepossessing brazen liar.
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If the answer is no, then yet again you fabricated imaginary functionality.

[Alan]

On 2022-08-30 14:54, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>>> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device?
>>
>> there's one already on it, but you'll find something wrong with it to
>> troll.
>
> I'm trying to help someone.
> All you ever do, nospam, is fabricate imaginary iOS app functionality.
>
> You're the opposite of me, nospam, in every way imaginable.
> You are cruel. You are despicable. You are a liar. You are mean.
>
> Nothing you say can _ever_ be trusted to be the truth, nospam.
> Nothing.
>
> You know this is for a very old lady with very old eyes who hates that her
> iPad is worthless in that it can't even do a _single_ useful thing, nospam.

Open Safari on the iPad:

<https://dayspedia.com/time/online/>

<https://www.clocktab.com>

>
> You know we're trying to make this expensive Apple iPad useful, somehow,
> perhaps as a full time always-on full-screen digital kitchen clock display.
>
> I don't have that iPad in my hands as it's owned by a relative who asked me
> to find some way to make it useful - which - is hard for an iOS device.
>
> Since you fabricate imaginary iOS app functionality all the time,
> nospam, (because you _hate_ that iOS is always crippled in basic
> functionality), I have to ask you a basic set of questions, all of which
> need to be yes.
>
> But if this first question isn't a yes, then you simply lied (again)...
> Q: *Does that app you claim is on it run full screen all the time?*
>    (such that the old iPad turns into a full-time kitchen clock)

Open Safari on the iPad:

<https://dayspedia.com/time/online/>

<https://www.clocktab.com>

>
> A: Yes or No?
>
> If it's yes, then I'll tell her over the phone what to do.

I'll take that.

But you'll never produce this old lady.

[Jolly Roger]

On Aug 30, 2022 at 2:24:50 PM PDT, "Andy Burnelli" <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device? (It's sad that iOS
> has the SHORTEST update cycle of all common consumer operating systems)

Trollboi Andy proves yet again that he actually doesn't know anything about
what he's blabbing about. : D

Anyone with an older iPad (including me, since I have a 2nd generation iPad
running iOS 9 sitting right here) knows the built-in Apple Clock app actually
works just fine for this purpose:

<https://i.imgur.com/8yarOEZ.png>
<https://i.imgur.com/IBPCEcw.png>

Dipshit Andy doesn't know, and probably doesn't give a shit anyway, because:
troll.

> It's not for me but for a relative.

Sure it is, trollboi. Sure it is. And if it is, your "relative" apparently
can't find their way out of a wet paper bag, because this functionality is
built in. : )

> I can't find a _single_ fullscreen clock app for that older iPad.

You clearly haven't bothered to even look. But then as we all know, you're
only here to troll, so that's to be expected. You add nothing of value here,
and are only here to disrupt these news groups with your pathetic, lame
trolls.

> Can you?

In spades. You, on the other hand... : D

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JR

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

>> Can you?
>
> In spades. You, on the other hand... : D

Hi Jolly Roger,

Thanks for those screenshots, where your credibility is utterly worthless
because many times in the past you dug up a screenshot from the dawn of iOS
_claiming_ that it could be done in current times.

If you don't believe me, remember that I've seen you claim that iOS could
graph wi-fi over time (which you just made up) and you posted old
screenshots of debugging modes which no longer existed and you've said many
times that iOS can back up IPAs under circumstances that it can't.

Even David Empson had to chide you for fabricating functionality that
didn't exist where all you did was find a screenshot from ten years ago.

So we'll see if the clock app can do what you 'claim' it does.

[Alan]

I can confirm that the clock app does precisely what he said, "Arlen".

[RJH]

On 31 Aug 2022 at 5:58:11 PM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

> I can confirm that the clock app does precisely what he said

I have only the newer clock app widget on my homescreen.

Mine opens up to "World Clock" tab but there are "Alarm" & "Stopwatch" and
"Timer" tabs on the bottom so "World Clock" is the only related choice.

The World Clock tab does not do what is asked but there are three dots in
the top which give three choices of single window, split view & slide over.

None of that does what is being asked which is to display a clock on the
screen filling up the screen and not blanking out ever - displaying time.

Can you tell me the steps exactly that you were able to make the clock
display on the screen all the time in full screen mode (digital or analog)?
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Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

First of all, are you talking about an iPad or an iPhone?

World Clock on my iPhone can't be set into full screen mode, but the
iPad version can.

[Jolly Roger]

It's not a widget. It's the Apple "Clock" app that came with my iPad 2.
When I tap one of the clocks, I get the full-screen clock.
It is really simple:

1: <https://i.imgur.com/8yarOEZ.png>
2. <https://i.imgur.com/jXichMK.png>
3. <https://i.imgur.com/IBPCEcw.png>

What iPad do you have, and what version of iOS are you running?

The very first iPad didn't have an Apple "Clock" app. I'm sure there were
third-party clock apps, but whether they are still supported 12 years later by
those developers is questionable.

Did you try the websites Alan previously mentioned?:

<https://dayspedia.com/time/online/>
<https://www.clocktab.com>

[RJH]

On 31 Aug 2022 at 6:28:06 PM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

> First of all, are you talking about an iPad or an iPhone?
>

It's an iPad and in full screen mode it shows a map of the world with a
series of small clocks on the bottom, none of which are what was asked.

> World Clock on my iPhone can't be set into full screen mode, but the
> iPad version can.

When I tap any of the clocks, nothing happens other than it allows me to
move them to a different position on the set of clocks on the bottom bar.

What happens when you tap the left most clock? Does it expand? Mine won't.
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Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

What version of iOS are you running?

[RJH]

On 1 Sep 2022 at 1:59:00 AM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

>> When I tap any of the clocks, nothing happens other than it allows me to
>> move them to a different position on the set of clocks on the bottom bar.
>>
>> What happens when you tap the left most clock? Does it expand? Mine won't.
>
> What version of iOS are you running?

15.3.1 won't expand any clock no matter how much I tap any one of them.
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Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

And this thread was about what an OLD iPad running an OLD version of iOS
would do.

[RJH]

On 1 Sep 2022 at 5:17:42 AM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

>> 15.3.1 won't expand any clock no matter how much I tap any one of them.
>
> And this thread was about what an OLD iPad running an OLD version of iOS
> would do.

How would me or you know what an old iPad running an old version would do?
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Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

I happen to have an old iPad Mini

[Jolly Roger]

At least two people (me included) who actually own old iPads have posted
stating that what the OP wants can indeed be done. Try to keep up, please.

[RJH]

On 1 Sep 2022 at 2:22:48 AM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

> I happen to have an old iPad Mini

What version of iOS are you running?

--
Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

On 2022-09-01 10:22, RJH wrote:
> On 1 Sep 2022 at 2:22:48 AM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> I happen to have an old iPad Mini
>
> What version of iOS are you running?

9.3.5

[Andy Burnelli]

Jolly Roger wrote:

> At least two people (me included) who actually own old iPads have posted
> stating that what the OP wants can indeed be done. Try to keep up, please.

Why did Jolly Roger claim the old iOS could do what he _knows_ it can't do?
*Why do these ignorant low-IQ uneducated iKooks always resort to such lies?*


I call bullshit on both these liars.

There's an old thread asking _why_ Jolly Roger & nospam constantly sent new
innocent users on futile wild-goose chases - which even David Empson had to
_repeatedly_ chastise them to please stop making up iOS functionality that
simply never existed and certainly still doesn't exist.

It's obvious that Jolly Roger lied.

*The only question that an adult needs to ponder is _why_ did he lie?*

Why did Jolly Roger claim the old iOS could do what he _knows_ it can't do?

[Alan]

On 2022-09-01 10:54, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> At least two people (me included) who actually own old iPads have posted
>> stating that what the OP wants can indeed be done. Try to keep up,
>> please.
>
> Why did Jolly Roger claim the old iOS could do what he _knows_ it can't do?

It can do it, Arlen.

I have confirmed it on my iPad.

> *Why do these ignorant low-IQ uneducated iKooks always resort to such
> lies?*
>
>
> I call bullshit on both these liars.

Do you need to see the video?

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-09-01, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-09-01 10:54, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> At least two people (me included) who actually own old iPads have
>>> posted stating that what the OP wants can indeed be done. Try to
>>> keep up, please.
>>
>> Why did Jolly Roger claim the old iOS could do what he _knows_ it
>> can't do?
>
> It can do it, Arlen.
>
> I have confirmed it on my iPad.

Anyone who actually has one knows this. Arlen isn't fooling anyone. : )

>> *Why do these ignorant low-IQ uneducated iKooks always resort to such
>> lies?*
>>
>> I call bullshit on both these liars.
>
> Do you need to see the video?

It won't matter. He's here to lie and troll - and nothing else matters.
He's pathetic.

[RonTheGuy]

On Sep 01, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article<news:jncf7j...@mid.individual.net>):

> Anyone who actually has one knows this.

You've lied so much before why should anyone believe anything from you now?

Ron, the humblest guy in town.

[Alan]

On 2022-09-01 12:50, RonTheGuy wrote:
> On Sep 01, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article<news:jncf7j...@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> Anyone who actually has one knows this.
>
> You've lied so much before why should anyone believe anything from you now?

I don't recall any lies he's told...

...but I can confirm that my old iPad behaves just as he related.

[Your Name]

Yet agin, and as always, the braindead Arlen / Andy troll is proven
completely wrong by actual facts in reality ...

How to get apps for old iPhones and iPads

<https://appleinsider.com/inside/ios/tips/how-to-get-apps-for-old-iphones-and-ipads>

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-09-01, RonTheGuy <r...@null.invalid> wrote:
> On Sep 01, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article<news:jncf7j...@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> Anyone who actually has one knows this.
>
> You've lied so much before why should anyone believe anything from you
> now?

Nope. Like Arlen, you're just trolling.

> Ron, the humblest guy in town.

Laughable.

[Hank Rogers]

Your Name wrote:
> On 2022-08-30 21:42:42 +0000, Alan said:
>
>> On 2022-08-30 14:24, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device? (It's sad
>>> that iOS
>>> has the SHORTEST update cycle of all common consumer operating
>>> systems)
>>>
>>> It's not for me but for a relative.
>>> If this was Android, there would be a billion useful apps.
>>>
>>> But it's an iPad.
>>> And, unfortunately, the fact remains... iOS has a very short
>>> lifespan.
>>>
>>> The proof is simple:
>>>
>>> I can't find a _single_ fullscreen clock app for that older iPad.
>>> *How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model
>>> MC497LL*
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad/c/3BhpIUh4BnE/m/j6QDG8GZFAAJ>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you?
>>
>> That's the oldest iPad there is. Not "oldER": "oldEST".
>
> Yet agin, and as always, the braindead Arlen / Andy troll is proven
> completely wrong by actual facts in reality ...
>

That's true, but his lame tactics do work. He's gotten you to
address his rubbish, hasn't he?

[Alan]

But it's fun!

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> I'd rather cut off his head and shit down his throat.
>
> that works.

It's revealing, to _adults_, how much you hate the fact there is no
full-sized clock app for this older iPad, where you first resorted to
brazen lies of purely imaginary fabrications of app functionality...

And then, when your brazen fabrications of imaginary iOS functionality
failed, you resorted to childish "shit down his throat" threats.

*How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad/c/3BhpIUh4BnE/m/j6QDG8GZFAAJ>

*You child-like iKooks _fear_ basic facts about Apple products*
*It's forever stuck on iOS 5.1.1 which has no such capability.*

[RJH]

On 1 Sep 2022 at 6:33:37 PM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

>> What version of iOS are you running?
>
> 9.3.5

And what version of iOS did the original poster say he is running?
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Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

Don't know, don't care.

The point is that someone else had an old iPad and it worked, and I
confirmed it worked on my old iPad.

[RJH]

On 2 Sep 2022 at 3:33:28 PM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> What version of iOS are you running?
>>>
>>> 9.3.5
>>
>> And what version of iOS did the original poster say he is running?
>
> Don't know, don't care.

Your iOS and my iOS are not a valid test as his is older than ours.

> The point is that someone else had an old iPad and it worked

Why do you think your results on the wrong iOS are valid and mine are not?

> and I confirmed it worked on my old iPad.

There's nothing showing an old iOS working the way he & you said it does.
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Cheers, Rob

[nospam]

In article <tetj7k$1lil$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, RJH <patch...@gmx.com>
wrote:

>
> > and I confirmed it worked on my old iPad.
>
> There's nothing showing an old iOS working the way he & you said it does.

there is, you just refuse to acknowledge it.

[Alan]

On 2022-09-02 11:49, RJH wrote:
> On 2 Sep 2022 at 3:33:28 PM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> What version of iOS are you running?
>>>>
>>>> 9.3.5
>>>
>>> And what version of iOS did the original poster say he is running?
>>
>> Don't know, don't care.
>
> Your iOS and my iOS are not a valid test as his is older than ours.

Yes, but...

>
>> The point is that someone else had an old iPad and it worked
>
> Why do you think your results on the wrong iOS are valid and mine are not?

...because things tend to evolve in one direction.

[RJH]

On 2 Sep 2022 at 12:01:52 PM, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>> and I confirmed it worked on my old iPad.
>>
>> There's nothing showing an old iOS working the way he & you said it does.
>
> there is, you just refuse to acknowledge it.

JollyRoger saying it works confirms nothing that is worth acknowledging.
--
Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

Except that I backed him up.

[badgolferman]

Andy Burnelli <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Can you find a single CLOCK app for an old iOS device? (It's sad that iOS
> has the SHORTEST update cycle of all common consumer operating systems)
>
> It's not for me but for a relative.
> If this was Android, there would be a billion useful apps.
>
> But it's an iPad.
> And, unfortunately, the fact remains... iOS has a very short lifespan.
>
> The proof is simple:
>
> I can't find a _single_ fullscreen clock app for that older iPad.

> *How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.ipad/c/3BhpIUh4BnE/m/j6QDG8GZFAAJ>
>

> Can you?


Will any of these work?

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-free-iphone-ipad-alarm-clock-apps/

[RJH]

On 2 Sep 2022 at 8:41:13 PM, Alan <nuh...@nope.com> wrote:

>> JollyRoger saying it works confirms nothing that is worth acknowledging.
>
> Except that I backed him up.

Repeating what you say you did on the wrong iOS doesn't mean anything.
--
Cheers, Rob

[Alan]

You are a tiresome little man, aren't you?