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Mar 27, 2010, 9:52:12 PM3/27/10
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> Behind the iPad, decades of clever technology
>
> Contrary to Cupertino mythology, the iPad didnšt sprout from Steve
> Jobsš forehead fully formed. There were a number of critical events
> stretching back nearly 40 years that helped pave a path for the iPad:

give me a break. it does not stretch back 40 years. maybe 10 or so, at
the most.

Your Name

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Mar 27, 2010, 11:17:25 PM3/27/10
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In article <270320102152126274%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Since the article includes ARPANet as 1969's answer to Facebook / Twitter
/ Internet, that should realy have said "nearly 41 years" or more usually
"over 40 years". :-)

Of course, you could go even further back and claim the iPad is connected
to the first computers, the abacus, early mathematics, discovery of fire,
early dinosaurs crawling out of the sea, ... ;-)

News

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Mar 27, 2010, 10:27:32 PM3/27/10
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Didn't Jobs and the MaxiPad spring from the Big Bang?

Jolly Roger

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Mar 28, 2010, 12:36:29 AM3/28/10
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In article <270320102152126274%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
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Like you would know anyway, never having stepped foot in Apple's
engineering offices.

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Mar 28, 2010, 1:46:57 AM3/28/10
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Nope. We all know Steve Jobs is God, so he obviously created the Big Bang.
;-)

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Mar 28, 2010, 12:48:42 AM3/28/10
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In article <jollyroger-C770F...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> > > Contrary to Cupertino mythology, the iPad didnšt sprout from Steve
> > > Jobsš forehead fully formed. There were a number of critical events
> > > stretching back nearly 40 years that helped pave a path for the iPad:
> >
> > give me a break. it does not stretch back 40 years. maybe 10 or so, at
> > the most.
>
> Like you would know anyway, never having stepped foot in Apple's
> engineering offices.

oh that's absolutely hilarious. if you only knew just how hilarious
that is. i've spent a *lot* of time there, in at least 10 different
buildings.

Jolly Roger

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Mar 28, 2010, 12:56:12 AM3/28/10
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In article <280320100048421636%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

You have been caught in several lies in the comp.sys.mac.* news groups,
so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was yet another bald-faced
lie.

nospam

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Mar 28, 2010, 1:06:01 AM3/28/10
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In article <jollyroger-3D1F4...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> You have been caught in several lies in the comp.sys.mac.* news groups,
> so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was yet another bald-faced
> lie.

if you are going to accuse me of lying, provide evidence where i lied
or retract it.

Jolly Roger

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Mar 28, 2010, 1:14:10 AM3/28/10
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In article <280320100106014019%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

I'm not interested in spending my time looking up your bullshit. You
can count that as a retraction if you like.

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nospam

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Mar 28, 2010, 1:16:55 AM3/28/10
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In article <jollyroger-82E94...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> > > You have been caught in several lies in the comp.sys.mac.* news groups,
> > > so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was yet another bald-faced
> > > lie.
> >
> > if you are going to accuse me of lying, provide evidence where i lied
> > or retract it.
>
> I'm not interested in spending my time looking up your bullshit. You
> can count that as a retraction if you like.

why am i not surprised. you are nothing but talk.

nevertheless, consider it retracted (somewhat).

Jolly Roger

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Mar 28, 2010, 1:46:40 AM3/28/10
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In article <280320100116553244%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

And you're a troll.

> nevertheless, consider it retracted (somewhat).

I care not, either way.

Avalon

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Mar 28, 2010, 6:44:44 AM3/28/10
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Well 20 years, starting with the Newton MessagePAD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_%28platform%29

News

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Mar 28, 2010, 9:18:03 AM3/28/10
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I stand corrected.

Walter Bushell

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Mar 28, 2010, 10:54:49 AM3/28/10
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In article <270320102152126274%nos...@nospam.invalid>,
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Hey, I can trace the iPod antecedents back to Babbage, at least. In a
sense back to the first manifestation of light. ;)

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Mar 28, 2010, 10:55:43 AM3/28/10
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Ha, beat you. I traced it back to the "manifestation of light."

Louann Miller

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Mar 28, 2010, 11:57:10 AM3/28/10
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News <Ne...@Groups.Name> wrote in
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> Didn't Jobs and the MaxiPad spring from the Big Bang?
>

Hijinks ensue when Sheldon buys an iPad to replace his Kindle.

Louann Miller

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Mar 28, 2010, 11:59:51 AM3/28/10
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Avalon <ava...@legend.org> wrote in news:honbut$qeg$1...@news.eternal-
september.org:

> Well 20 years, starting with the Newton MessagePAD
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_%28platform%29

"Like a Newton, only without the suck" would be a fair description of the
iPad's promised qualities. I had a friend, an Apple platform programmer,
who owned a Newton. I wanted one too, right up until I had the chance to
play with his for 15 minutes.

(had another friend who worked for Microsoft. Those were emotional times.)

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Mar 28, 2010, 2:24:06 PM3/28/10
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In article <zPKdnby1SrFq4TLW...@giganews.com>, Louann
Miller <loua...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Like a Newton, only without the suck" would be a fair description of the
> iPad's promised qualities. I had a friend, an Apple platform programmer,
> who owned a Newton. I wanted one too, right up until I had the chance to
> play with his for 15 minutes.

the newton was quite cool in its day.

Todd Allcock

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Mar 28, 2010, 3:11:47 PM3/28/10
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At 27 Mar 2010 21:52:12 -0400 nospam wrote:
> In article
> <5a0a2c9b-2516-4f9c...@l36g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, <
> @> wrote:
>
> > Behind the iPad, decades of clever technology
> >
> > Contrary to Cupertino mythology, the iPad didn¹t sprout from Steve
> > Jobs¹ forehead fully formed. There were a number of critical events

> > stretching back nearly 40 years that helped pave a path for the iPad:
>
> give me a break. it does not stretch back 40 years. maybe 10 or so, at
> the most.


I'd say it goes back to Sept. or Oct. 1966, when Capt. Kirk was first
shown signing his name on the 23rd century version. ;)

salgud

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Mar 29, 2010, 10:48:50 AM3/29/10
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:03:13 -0700 (PDT), <FUTURE SHOCK> <13> @ << Million
iPads @> wrote:

> Behind the iPad, decades of clever technology
>

> Contrary to Cupertino mythology, the iPad didn嚙踝蕭t sprout from Steve
> Jobs嚙踝蕭 forehead fully formed. There were a number of critical events


> stretching back nearly 40 years that helped pave a path for the iPad:
>

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36059145/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/
>
> ARPANet
> Before there was Facebook, Twitter or the Internet in general, there
> was ARPANet, a U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
> project initially conceived as a way to allow academic and military
> computers to communicate with one another.
>
> ARPANet was the first computer network to employ a technology called
> "packet switching," which the Internet uses today. Packet switching
> allows a message to be broken up into data chunks and sent through
> multiple routes to another computer. Once all the chunks arrive at
> their destination, they are reassembled into the original message.
> Story continues below 嚙踝蕭advertisement | your ad here
>
> The first ARPANet message was sent on Oct. 29, 1969 from a computer in
> Los Angeles to one at the Stanford Research Institute in northern
> California.
>
> GUI
> Apple嚙踝蕭s introduction of the Macintosh in 1984 with its graphical user
> interface (GUI) puts a human face on computing.
>
> Laptops
> Computers users bridled at being tethered to the office. They were
> finally able to escape their bonds and get off the grid inbetween
> charges in 1989 when both Apple and Compaq introduced battery-powered
> notebook computers within a month of each other.
>
> Earlier portable computers such as the Osborne 1, the first
> commercially successful portable computer introduced in 1981, would
> not be recognized as laptops by contemporary users. The Osborne tipped
> the scales at 23.5 pounds.
>
> Mobile chips
> Any device that lives on batteries is at the mercy of its appetite for
> power. Its processor has the heartiest appetite. And as mobile
> computing devices get smaller and smaller, there嚙踝蕭s less room for
> batteries to satisfy that appetite. The solution for matching supply
> and demand is to develop processor chips that require less juice.
>
> Beginning in the 1990s, ARM, then known as Advanced RISC Machines,
> created a new generation of power-parsimonious chips. Intel introduced
> its own low-power chip architecture with the Atom chipset in 2008 and
> Qualcomm launched its ARM-based Snapdragon in 2009. The iPad will use
> Apple嚙踝蕭s own custom CPU that incorporates ARM-based technology.
>
> Newton/PDAs
> Apple has always stubbornly sought to "think different," but it
> decided to think small when it launched its first handheld device, the
> Newton MessagePad, in 1993. The Newton created a new category of
> device 嚙碼 the Personal Digital Assistant (PDA).
>
> The touch-screen device had an address book, calendar and an e-mail
> function. It also carried a $700 price tag and flopped.
>
> Palm took the same idea and hung a $300 price tag on its Palm Pilot,
> which it introduced in 1996. Palm saw sales 嚙碼 and the entire PDA
> market 嚙碼 soar.
>
> Smartphones
> What would happen if you combined a cell phone with a PDA? That嚙踝蕭s what
> IBM did in 1992 with its Simon smartphone concept. Cell phone
> manufacturer Nokia brought that concept to life with its Nokia 9000 in
> 1996.
>
> Tablets
> Tablet computers started out as pen-based computing slabs without a
> keyboard. Users loved the form factor but balked at using a stylus as
> their interface with the computer
>
> The GRiDPad, introduced in 1989, was the first commercially available
> tablet-style portable. Tablets never really caught on. The convertible
> laptop is a more popular hybrid that functions either as a
> conventional laptop with keyboard or as a pen-based computer in tablet
> mode.
>
> iTunes
> Downloading files and software has been with us a long time. But when
> Apple launched its iTunes store in 2003, it revolutionized how people
> get and consume digital information, entertainment and applications.
>
> iTunes was also a major factor in the success of Apple's portable
> music player, the iPod. Working together as a single "ecosystem,"
> iTunes and iPods created a seamless software and hardware solution for
> gathering music and playing it on the go.
>
> Cloud computing
> Cloud computing is a lot like the old client-server mainframe world.
> Computing power and storage are consolidated on powerful servers that
> are accessed through dedicated lines or over the Internet.
>
> The cloud became much more visible in 2002 when Amazon began offering
> Amazon Web Services, a collection of remote computing services that
> could be accessed over the Internet. Devices such as netbooks,
> smartphones and the iPad don嚙踝蕭t have removable storage drives. For
> them, the cloud is the most convenient way to get information in or
> out of their devices.
>
> iPhone
> Apple practices convergence with a vengeance in 2007 when it
> introduced the iPhone. It instantly became an object of desire for
> millions and introduced users to multi-touch touch-screen control.
>
> Netbooks
> Taiwanese computer manufacturer Asus created a new form-factor
> category, the netbook, when it introduced the Eee PC 700 in 2007. The
> best way to think of a netbook is as a lightweight, smaller-screen
> version of a laptop, which has a long battery life but no removable
> storage drive. Like the iPad, it lives and breathes though the cloud.
>
> E-book readers
> Amazon scored a major hit in 2007 with its Kindle, a dedicated e-book
> reader with 3G cellular connectivity that let users download books
> from Amazon's vast inventory of books in seconds. Competitors such as
> Barnes & Noble嚙踝蕭s Nook soon joined the party, staking out a new arena
> for digital consumption 嚙碼 books.

I'm afraid this list is lacking many of the technologies that contributed
to the iPad, or any other modern electronic device. They include:

Fire
the Wheel
Domestication of animals
all of Metallurgy
The Printing Press
etc.

IOW, a ridiculous list. As Newton put it, "If I have seen farther than
others, it is bacause I have stood on the shoulders of giants." All
technology stands on the shoulders of those who have gone before. The iPad
is different?

Larry

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Mar 29, 2010, 2:01:42 PM3/29/10
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salgud <spamb...@comcast.net> wrote in
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>> Cloud computing
>> Cloud computing is a lot like the old client-server mainframe world.
>> Computing power and storage are consolidated on powerful servers that
>> are accessed through dedicated lines or over the Internet.
>

The spammers have dreamed of a cloud ONLY internet feeding only browsers
since before the introduction of JAVA, which was supposed to make it
happen. Privacy-loving internet users rebelled at letting the
corporations control their lives and force them into subscription after
subscription every time you wanted to do something "more" than what your
tiny subscriptions would do.

It finally looks like after iphone/ipad/smartphones/dumb browser tablets
they are going to get their way after all.......very sad.

WebTV lives on and on.....now wireless.

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Larry

Wes Groleau

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Apr 1, 2010, 11:18:40 PM4/1/10
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On 03-28-2010 13:07, Lewis wrote:
> The MessagePad 2000 was, by all accounts, brilliant. I know people who
> still use them.

No matter whether it was brilliant or not, I am sure there were trolls
whose accounts said it was not brilliant.

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