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UltimatePatriot
Oct 27, 2012, 10:53:47 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>I am Woman; watch me vote!
You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
<mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>I am Woman; watch me vote!
You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
Your Name
Oct 27, 2012, 11:16:53 PM10/27/12
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Howard S Shubs
Oct 28, 2012, 12:59:27 AM10/28/12
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In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
Do bugger off, UP.
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Todd Allcock
Oct 28, 2012, 1:24:01 AM10/28/12
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At 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:
> And this is what he saw:
>
> <snip>
>
> Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a
Surface
> tablet.
>
> I did not buy either.
>
> There was a nice display of different machines running Windows 8, but
the
> booth was otherwise mostly deserted. There was no line. But two
different
> "sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to
step
> away from the product, and to wait in line. How about "May I help you?"
or
> even "Isn't that a great little tablet?" Nope -- it was "Go away,
you're
> not following my rules."
>
> I don't deal well with self appointed nazis.
>
> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-
line
> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the
company.
>
> Meanwhile, a short distance away, the Apple store was crowded and
nobody
> was chasing people away from the iPads and iPhones and iStuff.
I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
helpful, even if I wasn't always courteous in return. I've seen them let
unaccompanied minors play with the Xbox displays for ages, let adults
play chess on the Surface tables (or whatever they call them now that the
Surface tablets have co-oped the Surface branding) when they were
obviously killing time rather than shopping, etc. There are always bad
apples in any bunch, though, so I don't doubt it happens.
> And this is what he saw:
>
> <snip>
>
> Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a
Surface
> tablet.
>
> I did not buy either.
>
> There was a nice display of different machines running Windows 8, but
the
> booth was otherwise mostly deserted. There was no line. But two
different
> "sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to
step
> away from the product, and to wait in line. How about "May I help you?"
or
> even "Isn't that a great little tablet?" Nope -- it was "Go away,
you're
> not following my rules."
>
> I don't deal well with self appointed nazis.
>
> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-
line
> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the
company.
>
> Meanwhile, a short distance away, the Apple store was crowded and
nobody
> was chasing people away from the iPads and iPhones and iStuff.
I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
helpful, even if I wasn't always courteous in return. I've seen them let
unaccompanied minors play with the Xbox displays for ages, let adults
play chess on the Surface tables (or whatever they call them now that the
Surface tablets have co-oped the Surface branding) when they were
obviously killing time rather than shopping, etc. There are always bad
apples in any bunch, though, so I don't doubt it happens.
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JF Mezei
Oct 28, 2012, 5:51:27 AM10/28/12
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On 12-10-28 01:24, Todd Allcock wrote:
> obviously killing time rather than shopping, etc. There are always bad
> apples in any bunch, though, so I don't doubt it happens.
However, Apple seems to have very good quality control and
> obviously killing time rather than shopping, etc. There are always bad
> apples in any bunch, though, so I don't doubt it happens.
indoctrination/training to ensure there are no bad apples at its Apple
places of worship.
They are extremely good at getting their retail stores employees to
consistently follow the same standards all around the world, and those
standard are designed to make everyone feel extremely welcome at those
stores.
A while ago, some magazine had leaked parts of the
training/indoctrination manual wich had many very strict rules about
what words to use and not use etc etc.
If, on lanch day, Microsoft has bad apples that make the news, this is
really bad news because this is one of the times where the media really
do follow an otherwise very boring company whose only regular news is
some new virus or anti-virus being released.
Douglas C. Neidermeyer
Oct 28, 2012, 8:14:25 AM10/28/12
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constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
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he vows to donate yours.
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Grandpamike
Oct 28, 2012, 9:26:16 AM10/28/12
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>And this is what he saw:
>
><snip>
>
>Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a Surface
>tablet.
>
>I did not buy either.
>
>There was a nice display of different machines running Windows 8, but the
>booth was otherwise mostly deserted. There was no line. But two different
>"sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to step
>away from the product, and to wait in line. How about "May I help you?" or
>even "Isn't that a great little tablet?" Nope -- it was "Go away, you're
>not following my rules."
>
>I don't deal well with self appointed nazis.
>
>So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
>works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-line
>trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the company.
>
>Meanwhile, a short distance away, the Apple store was crowded and nobody
>was chasing people away from the iPads and iPhones and iStuff.
>
>(For those who don't know, he is a science fiction writer; he wrote "The
>
><snip>
>
>Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a Surface
>tablet.
>
>I did not buy either.
>
>There was a nice display of different machines running Windows 8, but the
>booth was otherwise mostly deserted. There was no line. But two different
>"sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to step
>away from the product, and to wait in line. How about "May I help you?" or
>even "Isn't that a great little tablet?" Nope -- it was "Go away, you're
>not following my rules."
>
>I don't deal well with self appointed nazis.
>
>So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
>works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-line
>trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the company.
>
>Meanwhile, a short distance away, the Apple store was crowded and nobody
>was chasing people away from the iPads and iPhones and iStuff.
>
>Trouble with Tribbles" for Star Trek, and the novels _When Harlie Was One_
>and _The Man Who Folded Himself_, among others.)
First, why is it when people cannot make an intelligent argument, either for, or against they tend to attack the poster
personally ? Make your case, and accept that others have a differing view, and then move on.
Who really cares which is better, the Microsoft product, or the Apple one, it will finally come down to your own choice.
Me, personally, I use a PC running XP, and a Imac running OSX, my primary is the Imac. I have an Ipad <just ordered the
4> will give the other one to the wife, and have an Iphone 4S which is good enough for the time being.
In my estimation, the OSX operating system on Apple computers is far and away a better OS than anything MS can come up
with, and also don't have to get updates every Tuesday. Never had or wanted to have any AV software on my MAC and have
not had any malware or virii for the past 4 years, as opposed to my PC which has had numerous.
If that makes me an Apple fanboi, well, so what. I like what I like and I am sure the same is true for whatever you use
as well.
I have gotten a lot of good information from this news group over the years, especially when certain individuals post
pertinet information, instead of ambushing people who are trying to help.
Yes their are trolls, but the world has many of the same type that you come into contact with everyday, but the world
goes on, and medication takes care of the rest.
Some posters here do it for enlightenment, others for blood sport, and I understand that,as well as participate in the
blood sport myself on occasion,but I specifically come here to find answers to problems I have regarding technology I
use.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 28, 2012, 11:11:24 AM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:59:27 -0600, Howard S Shubs <how...@shubs.net>
wrote:
>In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
>>
>> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
>> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
>
>Do bugger off, UP.
Do Fuck Off And Die, ShubTard. You sully your family's name.
wrote:
>In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
>>
>> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
>> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
>
>Do bugger off, UP.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 28, 2012, 11:13:47 AM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:24:01 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
>stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
>helpful,
She is a ditz, and she probably got that treatment as a result of her
<elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
>stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
>helpful,
fucked affect. If she acts anything in public/person like she does in
here, they saw her coming from a mile away.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 28, 2012, 11:15:30 AM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:14:25 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
<s...@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:
>On 10/27/12 11:16 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
>> Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>>> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I am Woman; watch me vote!
>>>
>>> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
>>> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
>>
>> Yep, I totally agree with that statement. :-)
>>
>
>Yeah, the poor girl doesn't seem to have much of a life other than
>constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
>repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
And that is the extent of the amusing part.
<s...@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:
>On 10/27/12 11:16 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
>> Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>>> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I am Woman; watch me vote!
>>>
>>> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
>>> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
>>
>> Yep, I totally agree with that statement. :-)
>>
>
>Yeah, the poor girl doesn't seem to have much of a life other than
>constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
>repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
FatBytestard
Oct 28, 2012, 11:21:51 AM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:26:16 -0500, Grandpamike <grand...@gramps.com>
wrote:
>First,
FIRST, GRAMPS, Usenet line length is 72 characters.
And YES, this IS Usenet.
If you got old enough and became a 'grandpa' and have no clue about
Usenet, yet wish to interlope your ass into the forum, you should at
least learn a little bit about it.
What you do is IGNORE the technology you use. That is the assessment
fuckheads you jack jaw their way into a forum with no care about the
forum or its conventions.
You probably run red lights and talk on the phone while driving too.
So, there is some "technology" you failed to "get working and use"
properly. Your brain.
wrote:
>First,
FIRST, GRAMPS, Usenet line length is 72 characters.
And YES, this IS Usenet.
If you got old enough and became a 'grandpa' and have no clue about
Usenet, yet wish to interlope your ass into the forum, you should at
least learn a little bit about it.
What you do is IGNORE the technology you use. That is the assessment
fuckheads you jack jaw their way into a forum with no care about the
forum or its conventions.
You probably run red lights and talk on the phone while driving too.
So, there is some "technology" you failed to "get working and use"
properly. Your brain.
George Kerby
Oct 28, 2012, 12:19:05 PM10/28/12
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On 10/28/12 10:13 AM, in article oqiq889juk009v48r...@4ax.com,
UltimatePatriot
Oct 28, 2012, 12:27:09 PM10/28/12
to
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:19:05 -0500, George Kerby
<ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>points
Come back when you actually have one to make, and it also has to carry
validity.
<ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>points
Come back when you actually have one to make, and it also has to carry
validity.
Bert
Oct 28, 2012, 12:27:39 PM10/28/12
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In news:uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com UltimatePatriot
Your news client doesn't have a killfile or filter?
Or do you just not know how to use it?
--
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Or do you just not know how to use it?
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George Kerby
Oct 28, 2012, 1:21:00 PM10/28/12
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On 10/28/12 11:39 AM, in article
michelle-CB0676...@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <CCB2C529.91A82%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
That's what happens when one spends the entire night on crack.
Paul Sture
Oct 28, 2012, 1:41:18 PM10/28/12
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In article <k6ifpi$3fs$4...@dont-email.me>,
outlet a few years ago they were extremely busy and had a ticketing
system in place before you could get to speak to any staff.
The woman in charge of the tickets was an extremely loud and bossy
individual and she completely put me off wanting to shop there.
It was a complete contrast to their older store, which was staffed by
folks with spiky coloured hair who knew what they were talking about and
very friendly too. Many a time I wanted to buy half the contents of the
shop.
--
Paul Sture
Todd Allcock <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
> stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
> helpful, even if I wasn't always courteous in return. I've seen them let
> unaccompanied minors play with the Xbox displays for ages, let adults
> play chess on the Surface tables (or whatever they call them now that the
> Surface tablets have co-oped the Surface branding) when they were
> obviously killing time rather than shopping, etc. There are always bad
> apples in any bunch, though, so I don't doubt it happens.
Talking about bad apples in any bunch, when an Apple dealer opened a new
> I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
> stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
> helpful, even if I wasn't always courteous in return. I've seen them let
> unaccompanied minors play with the Xbox displays for ages, let adults
> play chess on the Surface tables (or whatever they call them now that the
> Surface tablets have co-oped the Surface branding) when they were
> obviously killing time rather than shopping, etc. There are always bad
> apples in any bunch, though, so I don't doubt it happens.
outlet a few years ago they were extremely busy and had a ticketing
system in place before you could get to speak to any staff.
The woman in charge of the tickets was an extremely loud and bossy
individual and she completely put me off wanting to shop there.
It was a complete contrast to their older store, which was staffed by
folks with spiky coloured hair who knew what they were talking about and
very friendly too. Many a time I wanted to buy half the contents of the
shop.
--
Paul Sture
Neill Massello
Oct 28, 2012, 3:08:05 PM10/28/12
to
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> quoted:
> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-line
> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the company.
Another blogger reported on obnoxious employees at a Microsoft store.
<http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
Microsoft seems to think that the main purpose of a brick-and-mortar
store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-line
> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the company.
<http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
Microsoft seems to think that the main purpose of a brick-and-mortar
store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
Your Name
Oct 28, 2012, 4:13:10 PM10/28/12
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In article <k6j7j1$7e1$2...@news.albasani.net>, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
difficult to actually read messages instead of just posting irrelevant
nonsense or stuff someone else has already said. :-\
<s...@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:
> On 10/27/12 11:16 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
> > Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> >> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> I am Woman; watch me vote!
> >>
> >> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> >> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
> >
> > Yep, I totally agree with that statement. :-)
> >
>
> Yeah, the poor girl doesn't seem to have much of a life other than
> constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
> repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
Weel, when she has the intelligence of dried dog poo, it does make it
> On 10/27/12 11:16 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
> > Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> >> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> I am Woman; watch me vote!
> >>
> >> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> >> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
> >
> > Yep, I totally agree with that statement. :-)
> >
>
> Yeah, the poor girl doesn't seem to have much of a life other than
> constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
> repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
difficult to actually read messages instead of just posting irrelevant
nonsense or stuff someone else has already said. :-\
Howard S Shubs
Oct 28, 2012, 5:14:09 PM10/28/12
to
In article <CCB2D3AC.91AF9%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
word I'd use.
George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/28/12 11:39 AM, in article
> michelle-CB0676...@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > In article <CCB2C529.91A82%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> > George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/28/12 10:13 AM, in article
> >> oqiq889juk009v48r...@4ax.com,
> >> "UltimatePatriot" <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:24:01 -0600, Todd Allcock
> >>> <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
> >>>> stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
> >>>> helpful,
> >>>
> >>> She is a ditz, and she probably got that treatment as a result of her
> >>> fucked affect. If she acts anything in public/person like she does in
> >>> here, they saw her coming from a mile away.
> >>
> >> Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points is it?
> >
> > the nutcase thinks I'm David Gerrold????
>
> That's what happens when one spends the entire night on crack.
It'd have to be longer than that. I've met Michelle. "Ditz" is not the
> On 10/28/12 11:39 AM, in article
> michelle-CB0676...@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > In article <CCB2C529.91A82%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> > George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/28/12 10:13 AM, in article
> >> oqiq889juk009v48r...@4ax.com,
> >> "UltimatePatriot" <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:24:01 -0600, Todd Allcock
> >>> <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've never been harassed or "Nazied" in any way in any if the three MS
> >>>> stores I've visited. The employees have always been courteous and
> >>>> helpful,
> >>>
> >>> She is a ditz, and she probably got that treatment as a result of her
> >>> fucked affect. If she acts anything in public/person like she does in
> >>> here, they saw her coming from a mile away.
> >>
> >> Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points is it?
> >
> > the nutcase thinks I'm David Gerrold????
>
> That's what happens when one spends the entire night on crack.
word I'd use.
Todd Allcock
Oct 28, 2012, 5:25:54 PM10/28/12
to
At 28 Oct 2012 13:08:05 -0600 Neill Massello wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> quoted:
>
> > So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> > works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your
front-line
> > trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the
company.
>
> Another blogger reported on obnoxious employees at a Microsoft store.
>
> <http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
Did we read the same article? Not well trained, perhaps, maybe even inept,
> Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> quoted:
>
> > So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> > works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your
front-line
> > trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the
company.
>
> Another blogger reported on obnoxious employees at a Microsoft store.
>
> <http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
but obnoxious? I didn't see it in the article. What I saw was an Apple
fan who went to ridicule the other side, and found exactly what he was
intending to find.
> Microsoft seems to think that the main purpose of a brick-and-mortar
> store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
>
a hard place with this product, and seems to be trying to manage
expectations. It's too easy to assume by looking and playing with it that
it's running "real" Windows 8, rather than a version specifically made
for ARM processors. If MS isn't careful, many people may buy one only to
return it when they discover they can't run their "legacy" Windows
software on it.
Paul Sture
Oct 28, 2012, 5:25:15 PM10/28/12
to
In article
<YourName-291...@203-118-187-99.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
'tis a full moon tomorrow, depending on where in the world you are:
<http://www.fullmoon.info/en/fullmoon-calendar.html>
--
Paul Sture
<YourName-291...@203-118-187-99.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
<http://www.fullmoon.info/en/fullmoon-calendar.html>
--
Paul Sture
7...@gmail.com
Oct 28, 2012, 7:48:55 PM10/28/12
to
>And this is what he saw:
>
><snip>
>
>Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a Surface
>tablet.
>
>I did not buy either.
>
Me thinks they didn't want people touching it for fear of it crashing.
>
><snip>
>
>Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a Surface
>tablet.
>
>I did not buy either.
>
I personally won't be buying Windows 8 or a surface tablet.
I'll stick with my ipad, Windows 8 will be 2012s answer to
Windows Vista or Windows ME. I anticipate lots of issues,
bugs, crashes, etc. I'm also not spending the $1200-$1500
required to buy the software to run this disaster of an OS.
I'll stick with Windows 7.
0an...@gmail.com
Oct 28, 2012, 7:52:10 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:14:25 -0400, "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"
<s...@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:
>If Romney wins, he vows to donate his salary to charity.
Where is your proof that he said that?
<s...@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:
>If Romney wins, he vows to donate his salary to charity.
>If Obama wins,
>he vows to donate yours.
Z...@gmail.com
Oct 28, 2012, 8:09:43 PM10/28/12
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>But two different
>"sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to step
>away from the product, and to wait in line.
To be fair to anyone working in a Microsoft store I know people whose
>"sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to step
>away from the product, and to wait in line.
main reason for liiving is to enter a computer store and crash any
product with the Microsoft name.
.
George Kerby
Oct 28, 2012, 8:19:02 PM10/28/12
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On 10/28/12 6:52 PM, in article 37hr88pdg57uhq956...@4ax.com,
You demos have no sense of humor, even though it was the troll who posted
this.
Todd Allcock
Oct 28, 2012, 10:51:46 PM10/28/12
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it was pretty funny...
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Your Name
Oct 29, 2012, 1:15:05 AM10/29/12
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In article <slrnk8rtpl....@mbp55.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <64ir88p3lls6uhh5d...@4ax.com>
You don't even have to go into the store to crash them ... just stand
outside and breath normally in their general direction. ;-)
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <64ir88p3lls6uhh5d...@4ax.com>
> Z...@gmail.com <Z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > To be fair to anyone working in a Microsoft store I know people whose
> > main reason for liiving is to enter a computer store and crash any
> > product with the Microsoft name.
>
> It's so EASY.
> >
> > To be fair to anyone working in a Microsoft store I know people whose
> > main reason for liiving is to enter a computer store and crash any
> > product with the Microsoft name.
>
You don't even have to go into the store to crash them ... just stand
outside and breath normally in their general direction. ;-)
JF Mezei
Oct 29, 2012, 2:33:39 AM10/29/12
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>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>> thought it was pretty funny...
the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
I watched the debates on CSPAN but have not watched any USA network news
in a couple of years.
(I assume CNN is going to have some sort of overdose of Sandy since that
storm is going to last a long time :-)
Steve Hix
Oct 29, 2012, 2:54:49 AM10/29/12
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In article <508e2344$0$58027$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>,
absentee ballots have been cast for a couple of weeks, and some areas permit
early voting.
JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
Traditionally, it's the first Tuesday in November. This year, too, although
> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
absentee ballots have been cast for a couple of weeks, and some areas permit
early voting.
MassiveProng
Oct 29, 2012, 3:09:04 AM10/29/12
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UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 3:41:22 AM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:33:39 -0400, JF Mezei
<jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>
>
>pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
>the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
>elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
It is not "usually on the 4th".
<jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>
>
>pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
>the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
>elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
It is usually the first Monday in November.
>
>I watched the debates on CSPAN but have not watched any USA network news
>in a couple of years.
>
>(I assume CNN is going to have some sort of overdose of Sandy since that
>storm is going to last a long time :-)
>
Yes, and the news runs the same thing over and over and over till it is
>I watched the debates on CSPAN but have not watched any USA network news
>in a couple of years.
>
>(I assume CNN is going to have some sort of overdose of Sandy since that
>storm is going to last a long time :-)
>
over.
And they seem to let the travesties pass by like yesterday's news.
Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
off?
Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
WTF happened to this nation?
UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 3:42:13 AM10/29/12
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is Tuesday.
Savageduck
Oct 29, 2012, 3:45:36 AM10/29/12
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On 2012-10-28 23:33:39 -0700, JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> said:
>
>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>
>
> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
It is always on the first Tuesday of November. For 2012 that makes it
>
>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>
>
> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
Tuesday, November 6.
>
> I watched the debates on CSPAN but have not watched any USA network news
> in a couple of years.
>
> (I assume CNN is going to have some sort of overdose of Sandy since that
> storm is going to last a long time :-)
Regards,
Savageduck
Savageduck
Oct 29, 2012, 3:49:01 AM10/29/12
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On 2012-10-29 00:41:22 -0700, UltimatePatriot
--
Regards,
Savageduck
<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> said:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:33:39 -0400, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>>
>>
>> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
>> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
>> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>
> It is usually the first Monday in November.
Make that the first Tuesday.of November.
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:33:39 -0400, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>>
>>
>> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
>> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
>> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>
> It is usually the first Monday in November.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Savageduck
Oct 29, 2012, 3:50:00 AM10/29/12
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On 2012-10-29 00:42:13 -0700, UltimatePatriot
...and all is well in the World again.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Thomas R. Kettler
Oct 29, 2012, 4:51:20 AM10/29/12
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In article <2012102900490140194-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
That isn't necessarily true. Technically, election day is referred to
"the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November". Consequently, if
the first day in November is a Tuesday, it occurs on the 8th and not the
1st of the month.
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"the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November". Consequently, if
the first day in November is a Tuesday, it occurs on the 8th and not the
1st of the month.
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JF Mezei
Oct 29, 2012, 5:24:21 AM10/29/12
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On 12-10-29 03:50, Savageduck wrote:
>> Yeah I screwed that up. He threw me and I said first Monday. Yes, it
>> is Tuesday.
>
> ...and all is well in the World again.
Until December 12, 2012 when the calendar runs out and the universe will
>> Yeah I screwed that up. He threw me and I said first Monday. Yes, it
>> is Tuesday.
>
> ...and all is well in the World again.
be thrown into a great calendar-less Abyss where "second tuesday of
November" will never happen again, leaving americans with the same
president forever :-)
On dec 12, should only the very rich be able to afford the entry fee
into heaven ? Or should they subsidize heaven so that the middle class
can also afford to go there ? :-)
And who do you want to represent you at the gates of heaven ? A mormon
priest who will only let women in if they are in his binder ? Or some
cool non white non muslem dude who was not born in kenya ? :-) :-) :-)
Do you want heaven to be a well manicured republican golf course runned
by Donald Trump and managed by Romney which will be runned like the
"Apprentice" where every week, the Donald will tell someone "you're
fired" and send them to burn in hell ? (litterally)
Or a fun house run by Bill Clinton full of playboy bunnies running
around the pool, catering to your every whim ?
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Oct 29, 2012, 8:46:55 AM10/29/12
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--
Regards,
Savageduck
Savageduck
Oct 29, 2012, 8:47:20 AM10/29/12
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On 2012-10-29 03:03:23 -0700, Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> said:
> In article <508e4b47$0$52044$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com>,
> These are all unlikely scenarios, since, as is well known, God is an
> Englishman. This means, amongst other things, that he's never heard of
> any of the people to whom you refer.
So you are confirming that god is an ignorant pompous ass?
--
Regards,
Savageduck
> In article <508e4b47$0$52044$c3e8da3$3863...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Englishman. This means, amongst other things, that he's never heard of
> any of the people to whom you refer.
So you are confirming that god is an ignorant pompous ass?
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Warren Oates
Oct 29, 2012, 9:54:12 AM10/29/12
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In article <1ksocbg.4zrbbavqvz3cN%nmas...@yahoo.com>,
http://www.marco.org/2012/06/11/half-assed-mac-pro
--
... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
nmas...@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:
> Another blogger reported on obnoxious employees at a Microsoft store.
>
> <http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
>
> Another blogger reported on obnoxious employees at a Microsoft store.
>
> <http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
>
> Microsoft seems to think that the main purpose of a brick-and-mortar
> store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
The same blogger has this to say:
> store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
http://www.marco.org/2012/06/11/half-assed-mac-pro
--
... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
Warren Oates
Oct 29, 2012, 10:00:28 AM10/29/12
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In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>
> It is usually the first Monday in November.
Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>
> It is usually the first Monday in November.
in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
AV3
Oct 29, 2012, 10:31:20 AM10/29/12
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On Oct/29/2012 10:0028 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article<cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>>
>> It is usually the first Monday in November.
>
> Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
The reason may be that Nov. 1 is All Saints Day, a major Roman Catholic
> In article<cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>>
>> It is usually the first Monday in November.
>
> Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
festival and a holiday in Catholic countries.
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bj
Oct 29, 2012, 10:45:25 AM10/29/12
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JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Until December 12, 2012 when the calendar runs out and the universe will
> be thrown into a great calendar-less Abyss where "second tuesday of
> November" will never happen again, leaving americans with the same
> president forever :-)
>
I thought "The End of the World" was scheduled for Dec. 21.
> Until December 12, 2012 when the calendar runs out and the universe will
> be thrown into a great calendar-less Abyss where "second tuesday of
> November" will never happen again, leaving americans with the same
> president forever :-)
>
Someone is even running a Kickstarter book project about it. :-)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yujlee/before-after-and-in-between-comic-anthology
bj
Paul Sture
Oct 29, 2012, 10:52:56 AM10/29/12
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In article <508e8bf6$0$31197$c3e8da3$3a1a...@news.astraweb.com>,
--
Paul Sture
Warren Oates <warren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
> > It is not "usually on the 4th".
> >
> > It is usually the first Monday in November.
>
> Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
It probably makes sense to avoid the day after Halloween.
> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
> > It is not "usually on the 4th".
> >
> > It is usually the first Monday in November.
>
> Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
--
Paul Sture
Tom Stiller
Oct 29, 2012, 1:25:29 PM10/29/12
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In article <m9SdnUknHMGlDhPN...@earthlink.com>,
first Wednesday in December (when the electors met in their state
capitals to vote) would be more than 34 days, in violation of the
existing Electoral College law. So, the bill was amended to move the
national date for choosing presidential electors forward to the Tuesday
PRAY, v. To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce
AV3 <arv...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Oct/29/2012 10:0028 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> > In article<cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> > UltimatePatriot<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It is not "usually on the 4th".
> >>
> >> It is usually the first Monday in November.
> >
> > Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> > in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
>
>
> The reason may be that Nov. 1 is All Saints Day, a major Roman Catholic
> festival and a holiday in Catholic countries.
In some years the period between the first Tuesday in November and the
> On Oct/29/2012 10:0028 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> > In article<cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> > UltimatePatriot<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It is not "usually on the 4th".
> >>
> >> It is usually the first Monday in November.
> >
> > Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
> > in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
>
>
> The reason may be that Nov. 1 is All Saints Day, a major Roman Catholic
> festival and a holiday in Catholic countries.
first Wednesday in December (when the electors met in their state
capitals to vote) would be more than 34 days, in violation of the
existing Electoral College law. So, the bill was amended to move the
national date for choosing presidential electors forward to the Tuesday
after the first Monday in November
--
PRAY, v. To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce
Jamie Kahn Genet
Oct 29, 2012, 1:49:52 PM10/29/12
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UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
>
> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
You're burdened only by your own stupidity that apparently prevents you
from using a killfile. I would feel pity for you, but you bring this
upon yourself and fail to take any personal responsibility for your own
failings.
*PLONK*
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
>
> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
You're burdened only by your own stupidity that apparently prevents you
from using a killfile. I would feel pity for you, but you bring this
upon yourself and fail to take any personal responsibility for your own
failings.
*PLONK*
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Oct 29, 2012, 1:51:17 PM10/29/12
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> On 10/27/12 11:16 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
> >
>
> Yeah, the poor girl doesn't seem to have much of a life other than
> constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
> repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
Oh? You worked for Apple, did you?
> > In article <uf7p889lfihl133b1...@4ax.com>,
> > Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> >> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> I am Woman; watch me vote!
> >>
> >> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> >> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
> >
> > Yep, I totally agree with that statement. :-)
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> >> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> I am Woman; watch me vote!
> >>
> >> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> >> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
> >
> >
>
> Yeah, the poor girl doesn't seem to have much of a life other than
> constantly scanning the Apple tipster mags and blogs for nuggets she can
> repost here to give the impression she is an insider...
Oh? You worked for Apple, did you?
Jamie Kahn Genet
Oct 29, 2012, 1:59:40 PM10/29/12
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FatBytestard <PhatBy...@somewheronyourharddrive.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:26:16 -0500, Grandpamike <grand...@gramps.com>
> wrote:
>
> >First,
>
> FIRST, GRAMPS, Usenet line length is 72 characters.
>
> And YES, this IS Usenet.
>
> If you got old enough and became a 'grandpa' and have no clue about
> Usenet, yet wish to interlope your ass into the forum, you should at
> least learn a little bit about it.
>
> What you do is IGNORE the technology you use. That is the assessment
> fuckheads you jack jaw their way into a forum with no care about the
> forum or its conventions.
>
> You probably run red lights and talk on the phone while driving too.
>
> So, there is some "technology" you failed to "get working and use"
> properly. Your brain.
Wow, the mentally ill nymshifting troll is out in force today. Obvious
mentally ill troll is obvious :-D
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:26:16 -0500, Grandpamike <grand...@gramps.com>
> wrote:
>
> >First,
>
> FIRST, GRAMPS, Usenet line length is 72 characters.
>
> And YES, this IS Usenet.
>
> If you got old enough and became a 'grandpa' and have no clue about
> Usenet, yet wish to interlope your ass into the forum, you should at
> least learn a little bit about it.
>
> What you do is IGNORE the technology you use. That is the assessment
> fuckheads you jack jaw their way into a forum with no care about the
> forum or its conventions.
>
> You probably run red lights and talk on the phone while driving too.
>
> So, there is some "technology" you failed to "get working and use"
> properly. Your brain.
Wow, the mentally ill nymshifting troll is out in force today. Obvious
mentally ill troll is obvious :-D
Jamie Kahn Genet
Oct 29, 2012, 2:21:04 PM10/29/12
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Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> And this is what he saw:
>
> <snip>
>
> Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a Surface
> tablet.
>
> I did not buy either.
>
> There was a nice display of different machines running Windows 8, but the
> booth was otherwise mostly deserted. There was no line. But two different
> "sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to step
> away from the product, and to wait in line. How about "May I help you?" or
> even "Isn't that a great little tablet?" Nope -- it was "Go away, you're
> not following my rules."
>
> I don't deal well with self appointed nazis.
>
> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-line
> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the company.
>
> Meanwhile, a short distance away, the Apple store was crowded and nobody
> was chasing people away from the iPads and iPhones and iStuff.
>
> (For those who don't know, he is a science fiction writer; he wrote "The
> Trouble with Tribbles" for Star Trek, and the novels _When Harlie Was One_
> and _The Man Who Folded Himself_, among others.)
Yesterday I stopped by the local JB HiFi store (an electronics retailer
in Australia and NZ) and while buying a toner cart, I enquired about
interest in Windows 8 since release. The helpful and polite salespeople
I spoke with didn't think there had been much interest, compared to say,
the latest triple A game release. There also seemed to be a lack of
interest in Windows 8 from Windows 7 users on non-touchscreen computers
(almost all the PCs out there), and I could only find a couple Windows
touchscreen devices on sale, with only one person trying one out for a
couple minutes, vs half a dozen trying out iPads, during my 20 mins in
store. Again a lack of interest by the public was expressed by the
salespeople I know.
I may be biased by my own disinterest in touch UIs encroaching on
desktop OSes, but this and other similar experiences recently suggest to
me less interest in Windows 8 vs Windows 7's anticipated launch.
Personally I'm not seeing any compelling reason to upgrade from the very
good Windows 7 on the desktop or laptop. I do think upgrading from WinXP
to 7 is a good idea, but there's absolutely no rush unless the user
requires one of the rare Windows 7 only apps, or the user is buying a
new system. Speaking of buying new systems, I anticipate many users I
know having issues with Windows 8 when they buy a new system. Yes there
are ways to access the old UI, but it's still going to confuse people
used to established Windows default UI conventions, IMO.
> And this is what he saw:
>
> <snip>
>
> Then I went to the Microsoft store, ready to buy Windows 8 and a Surface
> tablet.
>
> I did not buy either.
>
> There was a nice display of different machines running Windows 8, but the
> booth was otherwise mostly deserted. There was no line. But two different
> "sales" personnel came up to tell me not to touch the keyboards, to step
> away from the product, and to wait in line. How about "May I help you?" or
> even "Isn't that a great little tablet?" Nope -- it was "Go away, you're
> not following my rules."
>
> I don't deal well with self appointed nazis.
>
> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your front-line
> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the company.
>
> Meanwhile, a short distance away, the Apple store was crowded and nobody
> was chasing people away from the iPads and iPhones and iStuff.
>
> (For those who don't know, he is a science fiction writer; he wrote "The
> Trouble with Tribbles" for Star Trek, and the novels _When Harlie Was One_
> and _The Man Who Folded Himself_, among others.)
Yesterday I stopped by the local JB HiFi store (an electronics retailer
in Australia and NZ) and while buying a toner cart, I enquired about
interest in Windows 8 since release. The helpful and polite salespeople
I spoke with didn't think there had been much interest, compared to say,
the latest triple A game release. There also seemed to be a lack of
interest in Windows 8 from Windows 7 users on non-touchscreen computers
(almost all the PCs out there), and I could only find a couple Windows
touchscreen devices on sale, with only one person trying one out for a
couple minutes, vs half a dozen trying out iPads, during my 20 mins in
store. Again a lack of interest by the public was expressed by the
salespeople I know.
I may be biased by my own disinterest in touch UIs encroaching on
desktop OSes, but this and other similar experiences recently suggest to
me less interest in Windows 8 vs Windows 7's anticipated launch.
Personally I'm not seeing any compelling reason to upgrade from the very
good Windows 7 on the desktop or laptop. I do think upgrading from WinXP
to 7 is a good idea, but there's absolutely no rush unless the user
requires one of the rare Windows 7 only apps, or the user is buying a
new system. Speaking of buying new systems, I anticipate many users I
know having issues with Windows 8 when they buy a new system. Yes there
are ways to access the old UI, but it's still going to confuse people
used to established Windows default UI conventions, IMO.
Flint
Oct 29, 2012, 3:16:16 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/2012 3:41 AM, UltimatePatriot wrote:
> And they seem to let the travesties pass by like yesterday's news.
>
> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
> off?
Zimmerman will likely get off, and should. The charge against him is
> And they seem to let the travesties pass by like yesterday's news.
>
> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
> off?
nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
--
MFB
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George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 3:33:47 PM10/29/12
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On 10/28/12 10:12 PM, in article
michelle-9DC59F...@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <k6kreo$c00$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Todd Allcock <elecc...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>> thought it was pretty funny...
>
> I thought this was funny, too:
>
>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>> thought it was pretty funny...
>
>
> <http://philebersole.wordpress.com/tag/trick-or-treat-cartoons/>
Agreed, both sides are 'grinners'!
How about this one?
<http://tinypic.com/r/2s6rqxt/6>
Flint
Oct 29, 2012, 3:34:49 PM10/29/12
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On 10/28/2012 5:25 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 28 Oct 2012 13:08:05 -0600 Neill Massello wrote:
>> Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> quoted:
> but obnoxious? I didn't see it in the article. What I saw was an Apple
> fan who went to ridicule the other side, and found exactly what he was
> intending to find.
> a hard place with this product, and seems to be trying to manage
> expectations. It's too easy to assume by looking and playing with it that
> it's running "real" Windows 8, rather than a version specifically made
> for ARM processors. If MS isn't careful, many people may buy one only to
> return it when they discover they can't run their "legacy" Windows
> software on it.
The problem may be compounded as well by the x86 based
'laplets'/hybrid tablet notebooks like the Asus Taichi. While I think
the Taichi is a cool system, the fact that it has a tablet mode
running an x86 version of Win8 and a Win8 start screen running on it,
I'm fairly sure it'll confuse a lot of potential buyers. I can just
see it now; "Why will my Office software run on this Asus tablet, but
not on Microsoft's own Surface tablet?"
I've used Win8 for while, and it really is a nice OS, but M$ is badly
handling the architectural differential of Win8(x86)and WindowsRT,
compatibility issues.
--
MFB
> At 28 Oct 2012 13:08:05 -0600 Neill Massello wrote:
>> Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> quoted:
>>
>>> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
>>> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your
> front-line
>>> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the
> company.
>>
>>> So I didn't buy Windows 8 or a Surface tablet. Anyone reading this who
>>> works for Microsoft, you need to tell upper management that your
> front-line
>>> trolls are chasing customers away. They're making enemies for the
> company.
>>
>> Another blogger reported on obnoxious employees at a Microsoft store.
>>
>> <http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
>
> Did we read the same article? Not well trained, perhaps, maybe even inept,
>>
>> <http://www.marco.org/2012/10/26/an-alternate-universe>
>
> but obnoxious? I didn't see it in the article. What I saw was an Apple
> fan who went to ridicule the other side, and found exactly what he was
> intending to find.
>
>
>> Microsoft seems to think that the main purpose of a brick-and-mortar
>> store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
>>
>
>
> The Surface specifically, it seems. Microsoft is stuck between a rock and
>
>> Microsoft seems to think that the main purpose of a brick-and-mortar
>> store is presenting demos rather than letting people play with the toys.
>>
>
>
> a hard place with this product, and seems to be trying to manage
> expectations. It's too easy to assume by looking and playing with it that
> it's running "real" Windows 8, rather than a version specifically made
> for ARM processors. If MS isn't careful, many people may buy one only to
> return it when they discover they can't run their "legacy" Windows
> software on it.
The problem may be compounded as well by the x86 based
'laplets'/hybrid tablet notebooks like the Asus Taichi. While I think
the Taichi is a cool system, the fact that it has a tablet mode
running an x86 version of Win8 and a Win8 start screen running on it,
I'm fairly sure it'll confuse a lot of potential buyers. I can just
see it now; "Why will my Office software run on this Asus tablet, but
not on Microsoft's own Surface tablet?"
I've used Win8 for while, and it really is a nice OS, but M$ is badly
handling the architectural differential of Win8(x86)and WindowsRT,
compatibility issues.
--
MFB
George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 3:43:15 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 3:15 AM, in article
timstreater-0CD7...@news.individual.net, "Tim Streater"
<timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
>> off?
>
> Who's he?
>> off?
>
Someone Zero is obsessed with.
>
>> Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
>> acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>
He defended himself from a gangsta in an enraged high on PCP.
>
>> WTF happened to this nation?
>
He doesn't know. He can barely contain all of his personalities.
George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 3:44:08 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 3:51 AM, in article
tkettler-A61617...@news.eternal-september.org, "Thomas R.
George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 3:51:14 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 12:59 PM, in article
1ksrnb4.cg7b5m1tbghadN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz, "Jamie Kahn Genet"
Your Name
Oct 29, 2012, 4:16:19 PM10/29/12
to
In article <sehix-E555AA....@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Steve Hix
<se...@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
> In article <508e2344$0$58027$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>,
always end up with a big joke played on you in the end anyway. :-(
<se...@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
> In article <508e2344$0$58027$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >
> > pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> > the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> > elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
> >
> > pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> > the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> > elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
> Traditionally, it's the first Tuesday in November. This year, too, although
> absentee ballots have been cast for a couple of weeks, and some areas permit
> early voting.
Elections (in every country) should always be held on 1 April ... you
> absentee ballots have been cast for a couple of weeks, and some areas permit
> early voting.
always end up with a big joke played on you in the end anyway. :-(
Your Name
Oct 29, 2012, 4:20:03 PM10/29/12
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In article <timstreater-0CD7...@news.individual.net>, Tim
to most Americans.
Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
> > Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
> > off?
>
> Who's he?
>
> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
> > Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
> > off?
>
> Who's he?
>
> > Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
> > acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>
> What behaviour was that?
>
> > acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>
> What behaviour was that?
>
> > WTF happened to this nation?
>
> Which nation are you referring to?
There's only one ... the rest of the world doesn't even exists according
>
> Which nation are you referring to?
to most Americans.
George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 4:36:17 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 3:20 PM, in article
YourName-301...@203-118-187-227.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz, "Your Name"
Let me ask you, when some disaster happens somewhere on this planet, who is
the FIRST to come with aid? Who still gives foreign aid to even sworn
enemies? Who else welcomes refugees from all corners of the planet (if they
play by the rules)? This ain't called "The Melting Pot" for nothing.
Like most of what you say in here, that is nonsense...
D.F. Manno
Oct 29, 2012, 4:48:18 PM10/29/12
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In article <k6j7j1$7e1$2...@news.albasani.net>,
> If Romney wins, he vows to donate his salary to charity.
He has to. It's his religion.
--
D.F. Manno | dfm...@mail.com
GOP delenda est!
> If Romney wins, he vows to donate his salary to charity.
He has to. It's his religion.
--
D.F. Manno | dfm...@mail.com
GOP delenda est!
D.F. Manno
Oct 29, 2012, 4:50:12 PM10/29/12
to
In article <sehix-E555AA....@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Steve Hix <se...@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
> In article <508e2344$0$58027$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> > the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> > elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
> Traditionally, it's the first Tuesday in November
No, it's the first Tuesday _after_ the first Monday in November.
Steve Hix <se...@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
> In article <508e2344$0$58027$c3e8da3$9b4f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
> > the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
> > elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
> Traditionally, it's the first Tuesday in November
Tuesday, November 1 is never an election day.
D.F. Manno
Oct 29, 2012, 4:54:29 PM10/29/12
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In article <timstreater-8D31...@news.individual.net>,
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <k6mklv$cl4$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint <agen...@section31.org>
> Who's he and what did he do?
He shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed youth whom Zimmerman
claims was attacking him with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced
tea. Remarkably, after his arrest Zimmerman showed no injuries that
would justify the use of deadly force.
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <k6mklv$cl4$1...@dont-email.me>, Flint <agen...@section31.org>
He shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed youth whom Zimmerman
claims was attacking him with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced
tea. Remarkably, after his arrest Zimmerman showed no injuries that
would justify the use of deadly force.
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George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 6:13:18 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 3:49 PM, in article
timstreater-AFCC...@news.individual.net, "Tim Streater"
<timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <dfmanno-86842C...@news.albasani.net>,
>
> In 1977 I was at a party in DC that, as it happened, included a number
> of Carters staffers. One confided to me that the best president they'd
> had in recent times for foreign policy was Nixon.
>
> Also at this party was a woman who was the only female criminal court
> judge in the state of Texas (at least that's what she claimed). She was
> in DC for some shindig and was being looked after by some of these
> staffers.
>
> She said, and I think this may have been largely to wind up these
> Carters folks, that she had the right to carry a gun, and indeed she
> produced it. She also maintained that, in Texas, if you could prove that
> the son of a bitch deserved to die, you could be let off killing someone.
>
> As a further wind-up she referred to a case that she'd had recently
> where someone had shot someone else through his front door, and she'd
> had to sentence him. She said that if the fool had let the guy into the
> house, and *then* shot him, she could have let him off.
>
> From the PoV of an outsider, I conclude there is no justice in the US of
> A, just law, and plenty of it.
That's all well and good, but it just happened to be the Hanging Chad state.
And, of course, DF Manno was perfectly honest and non-biased on his
presentation of what really happened. So, WTF, why do we need th have a
frigging TRIAL anyway?!? HANG HIM!!! Right?
D.F. Manno
Oct 29, 2012, 6:16:31 PM10/29/12
to
In article <timstreater-AFCC...@news.individual.net>,
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> D.F. Manno <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:
> > Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> D.F. Manno <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:
> > Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > Flint <agen...@section31.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Zimmerman will likely get off, and should. The charge against him is
> > > > nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
> > >
> > > Who's he and what did he do?
> >
> > He shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed youth whom Zimmerman
> > claims was attacking him with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced
> > tea. Remarkably, after his arrest Zimmerman showed no injuries that
> > would justify the use of deadly force.
>
> > >
> > > > Zimmerman will likely get off, and should. The charge against him is
> > > > nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
> > >
> > > Who's he and what did he do?
> >
> > He shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed youth whom Zimmerman
> > claims was attacking him with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced
> > tea. Remarkably, after his arrest Zimmerman showed no injuries that
> > would justify the use of deadly force.
>
> Ah yes I recall. Was this Texas?
Florida.
George Kerby
Oct 29, 2012, 6:29:30 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 3:54 PM, in article
dfmanno-86842C...@news.albasani.net, "D.F. Manno"
<http://the-american-journal.com/trayvon-tattoos-gold-teeth-drugs-violence/>
DevilsPGD
Oct 29, 2012, 7:29:50 PM10/29/12
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In the last episode of <CCB469AE.91C79%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George
voting in the US.
I mean I think back to the first G.W. Bush election, we had an election
here in Canada in less time than it took the US to count their votes.
How is that even possible?
Electronic voting, if implemented properly (this includes a
voter-verifiable, machine readable, human countable ballot printed by
the machine) should be reasonably trivial to deploy since, even if the
machines are compromised, it will be caught by random verification of
the ballots, and outside of fraud, it will produce instant results.
Still, in Canada we just manually count everything and can still have
correct (but not binding or confirmed) results in hours, and a final
certified result in a couple of days. Sure, the US has more people, but
this is an ideal example of a scaleable system, more votes just means
more people counting.
--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.
Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> said:
>That's all well and good, but it just happened to be the Hanging Chad state.
Personally I'm still confused by what exactly is so complicated about
>That's all well and good, but it just happened to be the Hanging Chad state.
voting in the US.
I mean I think back to the first G.W. Bush election, we had an election
here in Canada in less time than it took the US to count their votes.
How is that even possible?
Electronic voting, if implemented properly (this includes a
voter-verifiable, machine readable, human countable ballot printed by
the machine) should be reasonably trivial to deploy since, even if the
machines are compromised, it will be caught by random verification of
the ballots, and outside of fraud, it will produce instant results.
Still, in Canada we just manually count everything and can still have
correct (but not binding or confirmed) results in hours, and a final
certified result in a couple of days. Sure, the US has more people, but
this is an ideal example of a scaleable system, more votes just means
more people counting.
--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.
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Your Name
Oct 29, 2012, 8:24:33 PM10/29/12
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In article <CCB452F1.91C65%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
"World" Series Baseball ... to name one most obvious example. :-\
Flint
Oct 29, 2012, 8:37:12 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/2012 8:23 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <CCB4444B.91BF9%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> it. If you do like Romney's position on an issue; worry, because he'll
> change it.
>
> If you don't know what Romney's position is on an issue, you're in good
> company; he doesn't know either.
>
You mean he flip flops? Like Obonzo did on gay marriage? Like
Obunghole did on Guantanamo, Rendition, or Bush's war policies?
--
"We all should vote 'forward' - just don't vote Barack-ward..."
MFB
> In article <CCB4444B.91BF9%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I thought this was funny, too:
>>>
>>> <http://philebersole.wordpress.com/tag/trick-or-treat-cartoons/>
>>
>> Agreed, both sides are 'grinners'!
>>
>> How about this one?
>>
>> <http://tinypic.com/r/2s6rqxt/6>
>
> If you don't like Romney's position on an issue; stick around, he'll change
>
>>> I thought this was funny, too:
>>>
>>> <http://philebersole.wordpress.com/tag/trick-or-treat-cartoons/>
>>
>> Agreed, both sides are 'grinners'!
>>
>> How about this one?
>>
>> <http://tinypic.com/r/2s6rqxt/6>
>
> it. If you do like Romney's position on an issue; worry, because he'll
> change it.
>
> If you don't know what Romney's position is on an issue, you're in good
> company; he doesn't know either.
>
You mean he flip flops? Like Obonzo did on gay marriage? Like
Obunghole did on Guantanamo, Rendition, or Bush's war policies?
--
"We all should vote 'forward' - just don't vote Barack-ward..."
MFB
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Savageduck
Oct 29, 2012, 9:08:20 PM10/29/12
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The series winning SF Giants had three game winning Venezuelans who
played their part, MVP Pablo Sandoval, with his three home runs in game
#1, Marco Scutaro who drove in the game #4 and series winning run, and
Gregor Blanco.
They also have Puerto Rican Angel Pagan; Buster Posey, born in
Leesburg, Georgia; Matt Cain, born in Alabama; Las Vegas born, Barry
Zito; from Charlotte, North Carolina, Ryan Vogelsong; Texans Brandon
Belt & Hunter Pence; Arizonan, Jeremy Affeld; Dominican, Santiago
Casilla; California born Sergio Romo, and Bay area local Brandon
Crawford, who are all part of that melting pot team, the SF Giants.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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Oct 29, 2012, 9:12:44 PM10/29/12
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On 2012-10-29 18:07:54 -0700, Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:
> In message <2012102900453691745-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
>
> This is not correct.
My response was somewhat simplistic, and neglected to add the exclusion
of Nov 1, if it falls on a Tuesday. So Tuesdays Nov 2-8 are all
possible candidates.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
> In message <2012102900453691745-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-10-28 23:33:39 -0700, JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> said:
>
>>>
>>>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>>> Actually, I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and Obama supporter, and I
>>>>> thought it was pretty funny...
>>>
>>>
>>> pardon the question, but when is the USA election this year ? Is it on
>>> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
>>> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
>> It is always on the first Tuesday of November.
>>> the 4th of november as it usually is, or is Sunday a "no no" day for
>>> elections and it is pushed to the 5th ?
>
>
> This is not correct.
My response was somewhat simplistic, and neglected to add the exclusion
of Nov 1, if it falls on a Tuesday. So Tuesdays Nov 2-8 are all
possible candidates.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
D.F. Manno
Oct 29, 2012, 9:14:34 PM10/29/12
to
In article <CCB469AE.91C79%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> And, of course, DF Manno was perfectly honest and non-biased on his
> presentation of what really happened. So, WTF, why do we need th have a
> frigging TRIAL anyway?!? HANG HIM!!! Right?
What part of what I wrote is not accurate? Martin was not armed.
Zimmerman did claim Martin attacked him. Zimmerman's injuries at the
time he was arrested do not match up with his story, nor were they
severe enough to justify shooting Martin. And Zimmerman's story of being
attacked is completely uncorroborated.
And where the fuck is it written that I have to be objective? You failed
to demand that Flint be "perfectly honest and non-biased" in his account.
George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > D.F. Manno <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:
> >> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >>> Flint <agen...@section31.org> wrote:
> >>>
> > D.F. Manno <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:
> >> Tim Streater <timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >>> Flint <agen...@section31.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Zimmerman will likely get off, and should. The charge against him is
> >>>> nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
> >>>
> >>> Who's he and what did he do?
> >>
> >> He shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed youth whom Zimmerman
> >> claims was attacking him with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced
> >> tea. Remarkably, after his arrest Zimmerman showed no injuries that
> >> would justify the use of deadly force.
<snip>
> >>>> nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
> >>>
> >>> Who's he and what did he do?
> >>
> >> He shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed youth whom Zimmerman
> >> claims was attacking him with a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced
> >> tea. Remarkably, after his arrest Zimmerman showed no injuries that
> >> would justify the use of deadly force.
> And, of course, DF Manno was perfectly honest and non-biased on his
> presentation of what really happened. So, WTF, why do we need th have a
> frigging TRIAL anyway?!? HANG HIM!!! Right?
Zimmerman did claim Martin attacked him. Zimmerman's injuries at the
time he was arrested do not match up with his story, nor were they
severe enough to justify shooting Martin. And Zimmerman's story of being
attacked is completely uncorroborated.
And where the fuck is it written that I have to be objective? You failed
to demand that Flint be "perfectly honest and non-biased" in his account.
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UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 9:17:27 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:15:36 +0100, Tim Streater
then you have no business even responding.
claims to be THE "watch captain" of the area. How then did he not know
EVERY parent and EVERY kid in that community?
>
>> WTF happened to this nation?
>
>Which nation are you referring to?
You are a clueless, zero common sense dweeb, who has interloped into
the wrong forum... AGAIN.
<timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
>In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
>> off?
>
>Who's he?
If you are so goddamned stupid that you are unaware of current events,
>In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
>> off?
>
>Who's he?
then you have no business even responding.
>
>> Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
>> acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>
>What behaviour was that?
He shot an unarmed man after pursuing him through his neighborhood, and
>> Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
>> acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>
>What behaviour was that?
claims to be THE "watch captain" of the area. How then did he not know
EVERY parent and EVERY kid in that community?
>
>> WTF happened to this nation?
>
>Which nation are you referring to?
the wrong forum... AGAIN.
The Great Attractor
Oct 29, 2012, 9:19:35 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 05:24:21 -0400, JF Mezei
<jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>Until December 12, 2012 when the calendar runs out and the universe will
>be thrown into a great calendar-less Abyss
The Mayan Calendar ends its current cycle on the 21st of December, not
the 12th.
All of the rest of our calendars will do just fine.
Your brain is scrambled.
<jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>Until December 12, 2012 when the calendar runs out and the universe will
>be thrown into a great calendar-less Abyss
The Mayan Calendar ends its current cycle on the 21st of December, not
the 12th.
All of the rest of our calendars will do just fine.
Your brain is scrambled.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 9:24:11 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:00:28 -0400, Warren Oates <warren...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Well, ass-wipe,
Well, you retarded asswipe.. What makes you think that I give a fat
flying fuck about you or anything that your pathetic ass spews?
Your whore mother should be in prison for failing to flush you, the
moment the pathetic cunt shat you.
Fuck Off And Die, boy.
wrote:
>
>Well, ass-wipe,
Well, you retarded asswipe.. What makes you think that I give a fat
flying fuck about you or anything that your pathetic ass spews?
Your whore mother should be in prison for failing to flush you, the
moment the pathetic cunt shat you.
Fuck Off And Die, boy.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 9:24:48 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:31:20 -0400, AV3 <arv...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Oct/29/2012 10:0028 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
>> In article<cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
>> UltimatePatriot<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>>
>>> It is not "usually on the 4th".
>>>
>>> It is usually the first Monday in November.
>>
>> Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
>> in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
>
>
>The reason may be that Nov. 1 is All Saints Day, a major Roman Catholic
>festival and a holiday in Catholic countries.
Well... that *WAS* the original reason.
>On Oct/29/2012 10:0028 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
>> In article<cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
>> UltimatePatriot<Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is usually the first Monday in November.
>>
>> Well, ass-wipe, it's officially the first Tuesday after the first Monday
>> in November. They don't want it to fall on 1st November, for some reason.
>
>
>The reason may be that Nov. 1 is All Saints Day, a major Roman Catholic
>festival and a holiday in Catholic countries.
Well... that *WAS* the original reason.
RoyLFuchs
Oct 29, 2012, 9:29:06 PM10/29/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:49:52 +1300, jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie
Kahn Genet) wrote:
>UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
>>
>> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
>> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
>
>You're burdened only by your own stupidity that apparently prevents you
>from using a killfile.
No, dumbfuck. Unlike you, I do not filter my news. If I want to
ignore you, I do not need to automate it. Only retarded fucks like you
are that fucking lazy and stupid.
> I would feel pity for you, but you bring this
>upon yourself and fail to take any personal responsibility for your own
>failings.
You're a goddamned idiot. My fingernail clippings have more integrity
than a fucktard shithead like you does.
>*PLONK*
The only thing even more retarded than being a filtertard dumbfuck is
being a filtertard dumbfuck who announces his filter file edit sessions.
Grow the fuck up, boy.
Kahn Genet) wrote:
>UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
>>
>> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
>> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
>
>You're burdened only by your own stupidity that apparently prevents you
>from using a killfile.
No, dumbfuck. Unlike you, I do not filter my news. If I want to
ignore you, I do not need to automate it. Only retarded fucks like you
are that fucking lazy and stupid.
> I would feel pity for you, but you bring this
>upon yourself and fail to take any personal responsibility for your own
>failings.
You're a goddamned idiot. My fingernail clippings have more integrity
than a fucktard shithead like you does.
>*PLONK*
The only thing even more retarded than being a filtertard dumbfuck is
being a filtertard dumbfuck who announces his filter file edit sessions.
Grow the fuck up, boy.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 9:36:48 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:16:16 -0400, Flint <agen...@section31.org> wrote:
>On 10/29/2012 3:41 AM, UltimatePatriot wrote:
>
>> And they seem to let the travesties pass by like yesterday's news.
>>
>On 10/29/2012 3:41 AM, UltimatePatriot wrote:
>
>> And they seem to let the travesties pass by like yesterday's news.
>>
>> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
>> off?
>
>> off?
>
>Zimmerman will likely get off, and should. The charge against him is
>nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
Bullshit. He was told to stand down by an official authority, you
>nothing more than a crock of political expedience.
retarded piece of shit. He stalked and he murdered... PERIOD!
The line that should convict the little retarded Gestapo bastard is:
"Yeah, he's up to sumthin' er sumthin'." Right before the criminal
fucktard exited his vehicle. You are a clueless fucking bastard, at
best.
That presumptuous horseshit should get ANY cop shitcanned and banned
from their career path choice... for life.
He got "special handling". All PIGs do when they get into trouble.
NO arrestee (detainee) gets traipsed through ANY sally port in this
nation without being IN THE GRASP of law enforcement.
He got kid glove treatment from his fellow Nazi retard PIGs!
Are you one? You should writhe in a lye pit too,
Expedite that, motherfucker.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 9:41:20 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:43:15 -0500, George Kerby
<ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>On 10/29/12 3:15 AM, in article
>timstreater-0CD7...@news.individual.net, "Tim Streater"
>
>Someone Zero is obsessed with.
Kerby is a goddamned retard who's whore mother should be in prison for
failing to flush the KerbyTard piece of shit, the moment the retarded
bitch shat him.
>>> Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
>>> acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>>
>> What behaviour was that?
>
>He defended himself from a gangsta in an enraged high on PCP.
You are more full of shit than Zimmerman is. You should writhe in a
lye pit.
>>> WTF happened to this nation?
>>
>> Which nation are you referring to?
>
>He doesn't know.
No. YOU do not know a goddamned thing about me or anyone else you
interlope your presumptuous horseshit spew into.
> He can barely contain all of his personalities.
You should feel quite lucky that I *do* contain the one I wish to
unleash upon you, motherfucker.
<ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>On 10/29/12 3:15 AM, in article
>timstreater-0CD7...@news.individual.net, "Tim Streater"
><timst...@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
>> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>>
>
>> In article <cics88hg76dm5b8fs...@4ax.com>,
>> UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Does nobody even care that that Zimmerman bastard might actually get
>>> off?
>>
>> Who's he?
>>> off?
>>
>
>Someone Zero is obsessed with.
Kerby is a goddamned retard who's whore mother should be in prison for
failing to flush the KerbyTard piece of shit, the moment the retarded
bitch shat him.
>>> Or that "society" seems to think ANY of his fucked behavior was
>>> acceptable in ANY way shape or form?
>>
>> What behaviour was that?
>
You are more full of shit than Zimmerman is. You should writhe in a
lye pit.
>>> WTF happened to this nation?
>>
>> Which nation are you referring to?
>
No. YOU do not know a goddamned thing about me or anyone else you
interlope your presumptuous horseshit spew into.
> He can barely contain all of his personalities.
You should feel quite lucky that I *do* contain the one I wish to
unleash upon you, motherfucker.
UltimatePatriot
Oct 29, 2012, 9:56:21 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:23:55 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <CCB4444B.91BF9%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
barking. Too bad all you are is a little pathetic chiwawa, and no matter
how loud you bark, all anyone within ear shod does is laugh.
<mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <CCB4444B.91BF9%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
> George Kerby <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I thought this was funny, too:
>> >
>> > <http://philebersole.wordpress.com/tag/trick-or-treat-cartoons/>
>>
>> Agreed, both sides are 'grinners'!
>>
>> How about this one?
>>
>> <http://tinypic.com/r/2s6rqxt/6>
>
>If you don't like Romney's position on an issue; stick around, he'll change
>it. If you do like Romney's position on an issue; worry, because he'll
>change it.
>
>If you don't know what Romney's position is on an issue, you're in good
>company; he doesn't know either.
It is always easy to tell when their is a retarded dog parading around
>
>> > I thought this was funny, too:
>> >
>> > <http://philebersole.wordpress.com/tag/trick-or-treat-cartoons/>
>>
>> Agreed, both sides are 'grinners'!
>>
>> How about this one?
>>
>> <http://tinypic.com/r/2s6rqxt/6>
>
>If you don't like Romney's position on an issue; stick around, he'll change
>it. If you do like Romney's position on an issue; worry, because he'll
>change it.
>
>If you don't know what Romney's position is on an issue, you're in good
>company; he doesn't know either.
barking. Too bad all you are is a little pathetic chiwawa, and no matter
how loud you bark, all anyone within ear shod does is laugh.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Oct 29, 2012, 10:17:36 PM10/29/12
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RoyLFuchs <RoyL...@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:49:52 +1300, jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie
> Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> >UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> >> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
> >>
> >> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> >> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
> >
> >You're burdened only by your own stupidity that apparently prevents you
> >from using a killfile.
>
> No, dumbfuck. Unlike you, I do not filter my news. If I want to
> ignore you, I do not need to automate it. Only retarded fucks like you
> are that fucking lazy and stupid.
LOL. That's the most braindead attempt to spin reality in a troll's
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:49:52 +1300, jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie
> Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> >UltimatePatriot <Ultimat...@thebestcountry.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:17:05 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> >> <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I am Woman; watch me vote!
> >>
> >> You are a ditz, and we are burdened with the pain of having to watch
> >> all the crap you tote and enduring all the crap you tout.
> >
> >You're burdened only by your own stupidity that apparently prevents you
> >from using a killfile.
>
> No, dumbfuck. Unlike you, I do not filter my news. If I want to
> ignore you, I do not need to automate it. Only retarded fucks like you
> are that fucking lazy and stupid.
favor I've seen all year. Cheers for the laugh.
> > I would feel pity for you, but you bring this
> >upon yourself and fail to take any personal responsibility for your own
> >failings.
>
> You're a goddamned idiot. My fingernail clippings have more integrity
> than a fucktard shithead like you does.
>
> >*PLONK*
>
> The only thing even more retarded than being a filtertard dumbfuck is
> being a filtertard dumbfuck who announces his filter file edit sessions.
>
> Grow the fuck up, boy.
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
JF Mezei
Oct 29, 2012, 10:21:29 PM10/29/12
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On 12-10-29 21:19, The Great Attractor wrote:
> The Mayan Calendar ends its current cycle on the 21st of December, not
> the 12th.
Thanks for this important correction. Means I'll still have to pay
> The Mayan Calendar ends its current cycle on the 21st of December, not
> the 12th.
bills due between the 12th and 21st. Shucks :-)
And it will also clash with Christmas office parties. "Sorry, can't
attend the office christmas party this year as I am attending the end of
the world party" :-)
Since Christmas wont happen this year, why bother with christmas parties
? folks should focus on end of the world parties :-)
BTW does the world end on december 20th at 23:59, or on the 21st at 23:59 ?
AKA, is the 21st the last full day, or is it the 20th, with the end of
the world starting on the 21st at 00:01 ?
Hey, it took a number of hours to shutdown the New York City subway, one
should expect it will take a number of hours to shutdown the universe.
Unless of course, the shutdown involves a simple ALT-CTRL-DEL and reboot
the computer simulation of the universe that we participated in.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Oct 29, 2012, 10:29:51 PM10/29/12
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would explain much... :-D
JF Mezei
Oct 29, 2012, 10:47:14 PM10/29/12
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On 12-10-29 19:29, DevilsPGD wrote:
> I mean I think back to the first G.W. Bush election, we had an election
> here in Canada in less time than it took the US to count their votes.
> How is that even possible?
No, the best was the mayor of Moscow offering to help americans practice
> I mean I think back to the first G.W. Bush election, we had an election
> here in Canada in less time than it took the US to count their votes.
> How is that even possible?
democracy and run proper elections. I guess the irony was lost to
americans, but for me, I found that SO funny :-)
One big difference between canadian and US elections is that many states
have many questions on the same ballot. Not just who they vote for as
president. They may have some local propositions, whether to repave main
street etc etc. This makes tabulating votes more complex.
In Canada, you have one box to check out of 4 or 5 candidates. No other
questions. That makes it feasable to still count by hand.
To bring this back on topic: I am suprrised Apple didn't come up with an
App to vote in the USA election :-) :-) :-)
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