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paul
Jun 8, 2021, 10:33:46 AM6/8/21
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I can easily spoof my GPS location on non-rooted Android and nospam claims
repeatedly that he can do the same on iOS using free ad free mock GPS apps.
We asked nospam to come up with a single iOS app that does what he says.
He was silent (which is better than the insults most iOS users hurl at
anyone who asks them to back up their fabricated claims with actual facts).
On my multiple non-jailbroken iOS devices with GPS - how can we spoof GPS?
-
Every functionality I ask for on iOS I can already easily do on Android.
(Always for free, always google free, always ad free, usually open source).
repeatedly that he can do the same on iOS using free ad free mock GPS apps.
We asked nospam to come up with a single iOS app that does what he says.
He was silent (which is better than the insults most iOS users hurl at
anyone who asks them to back up their fabricated claims with actual facts).
On my multiple non-jailbroken iOS devices with GPS - how can we spoof GPS?
-
Every functionality I ask for on iOS I can already easily do on Android.
(Always for free, always google free, always ad free, usually open source).
badgolferman
Jun 8, 2021, 10:55:08 AM6/8/21
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sms
Jun 8, 2021, 11:55:11 AM6/8/21
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without the use of a separate computer connected to the phone.
As to why, there are applications that won't work in certain geographic
locations, even if you use a VPN server in a location where the app
would normally work. For example, if you subscribe to Hulu, and are
traveling in a country where the content you want is not normally
available, you can only watch it if you a) spoof the GPS location and b)
if your IP address is in a country where the content is available. A VPN
like Surfshark integrates GPS spoofing into their Android app, but that
feature obviously won't work on iOS.
See <https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524> for how to
spoof GPS.
GPS Spoofing is on my list of "Android Features that iOS Users Wish they
Had." I also have a similar list "iOS Features that Android Users Wish
they Had." I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
Since I use both ecosystems (iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch) and Android, I
have an understanding of the pros and cons of each system.
nospam
Jun 8, 2021, 12:18:19 PM6/8/21
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In article <s9o3st$h36$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
you make up stuff to fit your narrative, which is easily shown to be
false. you keep it in a google doc so that it can't be peer reviewed
and disputed. you simply ignore it and even bash those who tell you
what's wrong.
for example, you claim that in-screen fingerprint sensors are better
than apple's face id.
that is easily shown to be false, since not only are they such sensors
slow and inaccurate, often requiring a pin code, but they can easily be
spoofed with reflective foil or adhesive tape. samsung's fingerprint
sensor could even be spoofed by simply applying a screen protector,
although they finally fixed that, something which you ignore.
> Since I use both ecosystems (iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch) and Android, I
> have an understanding of the pros and cons of each system.
no you definitely don't.
there is *so* much wrong with your list it's laughable.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
> buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
it's full of disinformation and well refuted myths.
> I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
> buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
you make up stuff to fit your narrative, which is easily shown to be
false. you keep it in a google doc so that it can't be peer reviewed
and disputed. you simply ignore it and even bash those who tell you
what's wrong.
for example, you claim that in-screen fingerprint sensors are better
than apple's face id.
that is easily shown to be false, since not only are they such sensors
slow and inaccurate, often requiring a pin code, but they can easily be
spoofed with reflective foil or adhesive tape. samsung's fingerprint
sensor could even be spoofed by simply applying a screen protector,
although they finally fixed that, something which you ignore.
> Since I use both ecosystems (iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch) and Android, I
> have an understanding of the pros and cons of each system.
there is *so* much wrong with your list it's laughable.
paul
Jun 8, 2021, 2:38:10 PM6/8/21
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nospam wrote on 08.06.2021 18:18
disinformation when it was nospam himself, responding to Steve, on the
Android newsgroup, who prompted this thread by repeatedly asserting that on
iOS there are free apps in the Apple App Store which can spoof the GPS
location like the free apps in the Google Play Store do for Android.
I have plenty of iOS devices with GPS to check nospam's claims.
Where are these free apps in the iOS App Store that spoof our GPS location?
--
If they don't exist, why did nospam claim (repeatedly) that they do?
>> I find that when someone asks me which ecosystem they should
>> buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
>
> it's full of disinformation and well refuted myths.
It's funny when nospam says that Steve's notes are filled with
>> buy into, it's easier to provide them with that Google Docs document.
>
> it's full of disinformation and well refuted myths.
disinformation when it was nospam himself, responding to Steve, on the
Android newsgroup, who prompted this thread by repeatedly asserting that on
iOS there are free apps in the Apple App Store which can spoof the GPS
location like the free apps in the Google Play Store do for Android.
I have plenty of iOS devices with GPS to check nospam's claims.
Where are these free apps in the iOS App Store that spoof our GPS location?
--
If they don't exist, why did nospam claim (repeatedly) that they do?
Lewis
Jun 8, 2021, 2:43:14 PM6/8/21
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In message <s9o3st$h36$1...@dont-email.me> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> There is no way to spoof your GPS location on a non-jailbroken iPhone
> without the use of a separate computer connected to the phone.
You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> There is no way to spoof your GPS location on a non-jailbroken iPhone
> without the use of a separate computer connected to the phone.
was the going rage.
--
This is our music from the bachelor's den, the sound of loneliness
turned up to ten. A harsh soundtrack from a stagnant waterbed and
it sounds just like this. This is the sound of someone losing the
plot making out that they're OK when they're not. You're gonna
like it, but not a lot. And the chorus goes like this...
paul
Jun 8, 2021, 3:53:13 PM6/8/21
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badgolferman wrote on 08.06.2021 16:55
Is the reason because nospam _hates_ the Android functionality is built in?
I don't know - but nospam's insistence on fabricating this functionality
(which is a basic part of the Android settings) also exists on iOS.
OK. Where?
An adult conversation is possible with you so my heartfelt, sincere, well
reasoned, and detailed response to your question above will be completely
different than it would be with, oh, say, Jolly Roger or nospam.
It's rather unfortunate people like Lewis, Joerg Lorenz, Wade Garrett,
YourName, Chris, Rod Speed et. al exist, simply because they drop the level
of conversation of this newsgroup instantly to that of a small child.
Bringing the details up a level, my reasoned thoughtful and factually
correct response below treats you as an adult who asks that question because
you wish to know why people would want to easily spoof their GPS location on
their phone.
This isn't what the question is, given nospam claimed repeatedly that iOS
has the same functionality that many of us use & love on Android...
But since you're a normal person I will further answer your question, even
as it doesn't help to answer the overall question of which app exists that
nospam insists exists on the Apple App Store to spoof your GPS location.
There are _multiple_ reasons for wanting to spoof your GPS location.
Some of those reasons have already been stated in this thread.
Others are stated in the descriptions for the various GPS spoofing reviews
(which cover both iOS and Android in the URLs below, to be fair to all):
https://itoolab.com/ad/anygo/
https://www.easeus.com/virtual-location/best-gps-spoofing-apps.html
https://www.tenorshare.com/iphone-tips/poplular-fake-location-app.html
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/gps-spoofing-iphone-23-04-2021/
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/vpn-fake-gps-location/
https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524
https://www.techjunkie.com/fake-spoof-gps-location-android/
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Heres-how-to-easily-fake-your-GPS-location-on-Android_id62775
https://9to5google.com/2018/04/08/spoof-location-android-basics/
https://hive.blog/technology/@natebowie/how-2-fake-spoof-your-gps-location-on-android
etc.
Notice there are multiple reasons to spoof GPS independent of the OS
(i.e., those reasons exist for Android, iOS, Windows and MacOS).
But other reasons exist which may or may not be OS dependent.
For some people they don't want apps which may be tracking them to know
where they are so those apps end up getting false location information.
As another example, some apps which themselves have nothing per se to do
with GPS _require_ the GPS to be on (at least on later versions of Android).
The app doesn't need the GPS - but Google forces the GPS to be turned on
(which we all know why). Whether or not Google does this for iOS apps may or
may not be the case so this "may" be an OS-dependent need (time will tell).
Since I happen to have at least average intelligence and creativity, I can
certainly easily envision plenty of other reasons someone "might" want to
spoof their GPS (e.g., a tracking app that saves your track on the Internet
or on the phone can be handed a random GPS movement for that purpose).
Given how _easy_ this is to do on Android, uses will pop into your mind.
1. You set the Mock Location App in Android settings to your spoofer.
2. You run the Mock Location App (and you set its settings)
That's it.
It's that easy.
The settings on the good Mock Location Apps are as easy choosing a location.
Or you can just drop a pindot on a map which all the good ones have for you.
Then you set if you want the GPS to move along a track of your choosing.
You can pre-define a track. Or let the track move randomly. Your choice.
If the track moves randomly you can set the update interval and the distance
and even the general direction, etc. depending on your spoofing needs.
Getting back to the question, on the Android newsgroup we tested all the
mock location apps (the Android settings are _designed_ to allow this).
Some of those Android free ad free google-free mock location apps are
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mocker.mockloc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackkara.mockation
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hopefactory2021.fakegpslocation
etc. (I tested every single app that was free & ad free & GSF free)
Note those should all be free, Google free, ad free, & most are GSF free.
When we discussed these apps both Steve and I noticed that all the reviews
said there are no iOS apps on the App Store which do this simple task, to
which nospam repeatedly claimed we were wrong. He said they are there.
OK. Where?
--
Why does nospam constantly fabricate iOS functionality which doesn't exist?
> Why do you need to spoof your gps location?
Why does nospam constantly fabricate iOS functionality which doesn't exist?
Is the reason because nospam _hates_ the Android functionality is built in?
I don't know - but nospam's insistence on fabricating this functionality
(which is a basic part of the Android settings) also exists on iOS.
OK. Where?
An adult conversation is possible with you so my heartfelt, sincere, well
reasoned, and detailed response to your question above will be completely
different than it would be with, oh, say, Jolly Roger or nospam.
It's rather unfortunate people like Lewis, Joerg Lorenz, Wade Garrett,
YourName, Chris, Rod Speed et. al exist, simply because they drop the level
of conversation of this newsgroup instantly to that of a small child.
Bringing the details up a level, my reasoned thoughtful and factually
correct response below treats you as an adult who asks that question because
you wish to know why people would want to easily spoof their GPS location on
their phone.
This isn't what the question is, given nospam claimed repeatedly that iOS
has the same functionality that many of us use & love on Android...
But since you're a normal person I will further answer your question, even
as it doesn't help to answer the overall question of which app exists that
nospam insists exists on the Apple App Store to spoof your GPS location.
There are _multiple_ reasons for wanting to spoof your GPS location.
Some of those reasons have already been stated in this thread.
Others are stated in the descriptions for the various GPS spoofing reviews
(which cover both iOS and Android in the URLs below, to be fair to all):
https://itoolab.com/ad/anygo/
https://www.easeus.com/virtual-location/best-gps-spoofing-apps.html
https://www.tenorshare.com/iphone-tips/poplular-fake-location-app.html
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/gps-spoofing-iphone-23-04-2021/
https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/vpn-fake-gps-location/
https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524
https://www.techjunkie.com/fake-spoof-gps-location-android/
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Heres-how-to-easily-fake-your-GPS-location-on-Android_id62775
https://9to5google.com/2018/04/08/spoof-location-android-basics/
https://hive.blog/technology/@natebowie/how-2-fake-spoof-your-gps-location-on-android
etc.
Notice there are multiple reasons to spoof GPS independent of the OS
(i.e., those reasons exist for Android, iOS, Windows and MacOS).
But other reasons exist which may or may not be OS dependent.
For some people they don't want apps which may be tracking them to know
where they are so those apps end up getting false location information.
As another example, some apps which themselves have nothing per se to do
with GPS _require_ the GPS to be on (at least on later versions of Android).
The app doesn't need the GPS - but Google forces the GPS to be turned on
(which we all know why). Whether or not Google does this for iOS apps may or
may not be the case so this "may" be an OS-dependent need (time will tell).
Since I happen to have at least average intelligence and creativity, I can
certainly easily envision plenty of other reasons someone "might" want to
spoof their GPS (e.g., a tracking app that saves your track on the Internet
or on the phone can be handed a random GPS movement for that purpose).
Given how _easy_ this is to do on Android, uses will pop into your mind.
1. You set the Mock Location App in Android settings to your spoofer.
2. You run the Mock Location App (and you set its settings)
That's it.
It's that easy.
The settings on the good Mock Location Apps are as easy choosing a location.
Or you can just drop a pindot on a map which all the good ones have for you.
Then you set if you want the GPS to move along a track of your choosing.
You can pre-define a track. Or let the track move randomly. Your choice.
If the track moves randomly you can set the update interval and the distance
and even the general direction, etc. depending on your spoofing needs.
Getting back to the question, on the Android newsgroup we tested all the
mock location apps (the Android settings are _designed_ to allow this).
Some of those Android free ad free google-free mock location apps are
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mocker.mockloc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackkara.mockation
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hopefactory2021.fakegpslocation
etc. (I tested every single app that was free & ad free & GSF free)
Note those should all be free, Google free, ad free, & most are GSF free.
When we discussed these apps both Steve and I noticed that all the reviews
said there are no iOS apps on the App Store which do this simple task, to
which nospam repeatedly claimed we were wrong. He said they are there.
OK. Where?
--
Why does nospam constantly fabricate iOS functionality which doesn't exist?
Ken Hart
Jun 8, 2021, 5:23:20 PM6/8/21
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On 6/8/2021 6:43 PM, Lewis wrote:
> You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> was the going rage.
How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
> You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> was the going rage.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
nospam
Jun 8, 2021, 5:44:23 PM6/8/21
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In article <s9on43$1vuj$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> > You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> > was the going rage.
>
> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
>
> > You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
> > was the going rage.
>
> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
sms
Jun 8, 2021, 5:49:50 PM6/8/21
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On 6/8/2021 2:23 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 6:43 PM, Lewis wrote:
>
>> You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
>> was the going rage.
>
> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
Lewis is wrong of course™.
> On 6/8/2021 6:43 PM, Lewis wrote:
>
>> You are, as usual, wrong. In fact, this was quite common when Pokemon Go
>> was the going rage.
>
> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
The link I provided earlier,
<https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524> explains three ways
to spoof the GPS location on an iPhone. All of them require using a
separate computer. There is no iOS app that can do GPS spoofing, it is
not a permitted application for multiple reasons.
If you jailbreak your iPhone there are numerous GPS spoofing apps available.
Android does allow GPS spoofing without rooting the device.
Ken Hart
Jun 8, 2021, 6:27:48 PM6/8/21
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On 6/8/2021 5:44 PM, nospam wrote:
>> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
>
> that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
Have you ever done it?
>> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
>
> that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
You install a fake gps app.
You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.
Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
What more do you need to understand?
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
nospam
Jun 8, 2021, 6:57:20 PM6/8/21
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In article <s9oqt0$1ifb$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> You install a fake gps app.
> You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.
>
> Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
> What more do you need to understand?
as someone who has written several apps that use location services,
there's very little additional for me to understand (and what's new in
ios 15 is not relevant).
you, on the other hand, have *no* clue about how location services
works on ios and is merely stringing together a bunch of buzzwords in
the form of a sentence and hoping nobody notices.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
> >
> > that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
>
> Have you ever done it?
done what? your question makes no sense.
> >> How do you set an app as the one default gps fake gps app on iOS?
> >
> > that question does not make any sense whatsoever.
>
> Have you ever done it?
> You install a fake gps app.
> You set that fake gps app as the default mock location app.
>
> Any app that asks for GPS (such as Google Maps) gets that fake location.
> What more do you need to understand?
there's very little additional for me to understand (and what's new in
ios 15 is not relevant).
you, on the other hand, have *no* clue about how location services
works on ios and is merely stringing together a bunch of buzzwords in
the form of a sentence and hoping nobody notices.
sms
Jun 8, 2021, 6:59:33 PM6/8/21
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Android feature that isn't available on iOS and make a big deal about
it, goading nospam and Lewis to make themselves look foolish for
claiming that the feature is available on iOS when it really isn't.
But in this case, there really are legitimate reasons for GPS spoofing.
There are also non-legitimate reasons, i.e. tricking Pokemon Go. If you
look at
<https://cybernews.com/how-to-use-vpn/change-your-location-on-pokemon-go/>
they go into detail about GPS spoofing for iOS under "Spoofing Pokemon
GO location on iOS – iPhone:"
3. Jailbreak your device to change your location
4. Visit Cydia, an app store for jailbroken devices
5. Download tsProtector to hide your iPhone’s jailbroken status
6. Download a Location Spoofer app
7. Ensure that tsProtector and your Location Spoofer app are running
8. Choose a location in the Spoofer app
9. Turn on your phone VPN and ensure the location matches the one you
choose in the Spoofer app
They make it sound like Jailbreaking is a trivial task, omitting the
fact that it could void any Apple warranty you may have and that many of
the Jailbreaks require tethering and you have to do the Jailbreak every
time you boot your iPhone.
paul
Jun 8, 2021, 7:44:34 PM6/8/21
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sms wrote on 09.06.2021 00:59
was helping someone on where you and I both looked up how iOS could do what
we do on Android and nospam is the one who claimed it works on iOS.
I didn't claim it works on iOS, and neither did you.
It was nospam who repeated claimed the apps existed on the Apple App Store.
So please accept & acknowledge that what you said above is a bold faced lie.
It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
If they do exist, I'd _love_ to have them for my many iOS devices with GPS.
Where are they?
> But in this case, there really are legitimate reasons for GPS spoofing.
Nobody ever said there wasn't.
The people who asked why are just clueless and that's OK.
Multiple people explained the legitimate reasons.
We all know it just works on Android.
You and I know it was nospam who claimed the apps are on the App Store.
All this thread is asking is for nospam to come up with the apps on the
Apple App Store that you know nospam _repeatedly_ claimed existed.
Where are the apps?
If they exist, I'll be glad to try them on my new iPhone 12.
Where are they?
--
Could it be that nospam again fabricated imaginary iOS functionality?
Why would he do that?
> Take an Android feature that isn't available on iOS and make a big deal about
> it, goading nospam and Lewis to make themselves look foolish for
> claiming that the feature is available on iOS when it really isn't.
You know that's not true because this came up in a different thread that I
> it, goading nospam and Lewis to make themselves look foolish for
> claiming that the feature is available on iOS when it really isn't.
was helping someone on where you and I both looked up how iOS could do what
we do on Android and nospam is the one who claimed it works on iOS.
I didn't claim it works on iOS, and neither did you.
It was nospam who repeated claimed the apps existed on the Apple App Store.
So please accept & acknowledge that what you said above is a bold faced lie.
It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
If they do exist, I'd _love_ to have them for my many iOS devices with GPS.
Where are they?
> But in this case, there really are legitimate reasons for GPS spoofing.
The people who asked why are just clueless and that's OK.
Multiple people explained the legitimate reasons.
We all know it just works on Android.
You and I know it was nospam who claimed the apps are on the App Store.
All this thread is asking is for nospam to come up with the apps on the
Apple App Store that you know nospam _repeatedly_ claimed existed.
Where are the apps?
If they exist, I'll be glad to try them on my new iPhone 12.
Where are they?
--
Could it be that nospam again fabricated imaginary iOS functionality?
Why would he do that?
RonTheGuy
Jun 8, 2021, 11:52:32 PM6/8/21
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On Jun 09, 2021, paul wrote
(in article<news:s9ovct$17cn$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
> It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
nospam lied. Get over it.
The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.
Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.
Ron, the humblest guy in town.
(in article<news:s9ovct$17cn$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
> It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.
Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.
Ron, the humblest guy in town.
Rod Speed
Jun 9, 2021, 12:48:23 AM6/9/21
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"paul" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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JF Mezei
Jun 9, 2021, 2:15:21 AM6/9/21
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Another thing:
Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
though.
Turning off location services for the app is still the best way.
Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
though.
Turning off location services for the app is still the best way.
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 5:45:03 AM6/9/21
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In article <1fny16bn...@news.solani.org>, RonTheGuy
> The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.
nope. the rest are those who understand how ios works much better than
the resident trolls.
> Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.
it can.
<r...@null.invalid> wrote:
> > It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
>
> nospam lied. Get over it.
i did not lie.
> > It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
>
> nospam lied. Get over it.
> The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.
the resident trolls.
> Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 5:45:04 AM6/9/21
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In article <Y%YvI.57583$gZ.2...@fx44.iad>, JF Mezei
compass, accelerometer, gyroscope and uwb to determine location,
depending on various factors.
<jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
> phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
> though.
location services uses one or more of gps, cellular, wifi, bluetooth,
> Just go in a basement or dense forest. Without line of sight , your
> phone will NOT have a GPS location. It might use the last one recorded
> though.
compass, accelerometer, gyroscope and uwb to determine location,
depending on various factors.
sms
Jun 9, 2021, 7:29:03 AM6/9/21
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Lewis
Jun 9, 2021, 11:32:26 AM6/9/21
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In message <090620210545026971%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <1fny16bn...@news.solani.org>, RonTheGuy
> <r...@null.invalid> wrote:
>> > It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
>>
>> nospam lied. Get over it.
> i did not lie.
>> The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.
> nope. the rest are those who understand how ios works much better than
> the resident trolls.
Spoofing GPS on Pokemon Go did not require jail breaking, although as JR
> In article <1fny16bn...@news.solani.org>, RonTheGuy
> <r...@null.invalid> wrote:
>> > It was nospam who claimed, repeatedly, that iOS apps exist on the App Store.
>>
>> nospam lied. Get over it.
> i did not lie.
>> The rest who posted are numbnuts who believe nospam's lies. Get over it.
> nope. the rest are those who understand how ios works much better than
> the resident trolls.
points out Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
much different from the android option to allow side-loading. I do not
recall what was required, but it was simple enough that I was able to do
it on my wife's phone so she could get regional pokemon.
I think the last time I did anything with jailbreaking my phone was my
4S, it's just not necessary,
>> Now you know for sure iOS can't do it. Get over it.
> it can.
something it is impossible. It's pathetic, but it does explain
republicans.
--
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Lewis
Jun 9, 2021, 11:34:06 AM6/9/21
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talking about, so you making a unsubstantiated statement is about as
useful as farting in a tornado.
--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so, Commander Brain from Outer Space! But do we have time to
grease the rockets?"
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 12:04:09 PM6/9/21
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In article <slrnsc1no9....@m1mini.local>, Lewis
they don't realize that different platforms do things in different ways.
if their first (and only) try fails, they immediately give up and then
blame big bad apple for blocking it, when the reality is that not only
is it doable, but often much easier.
> It's pathetic, but it does explain
> republicans.
they are in a class of their own.
just when you thought you heard it all, something like this comes along:
<https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1402388019420741633>
ORBITS: Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) asks whether the Forest Service
or the BLM can alter the orbit of the moon or the Earth in order to
fight climate change during a House Natural Resources hearing
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> I love these idiots who decide that because they don't know how to do
> something it is impossible.
yep.
> I love these idiots who decide that because they don't know how to do
> something it is impossible.
they don't realize that different platforms do things in different ways.
if their first (and only) try fails, they immediately give up and then
blame big bad apple for blocking it, when the reality is that not only
is it doable, but often much easier.
> It's pathetic, but it does explain
> republicans.
just when you thought you heard it all, something like this comes along:
<https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1402388019420741633>
ORBITS: Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) asks whether the Forest Service
or the BLM can alter the orbit of the moon or the Earth in order to
fight climate change during a House Natural Resources hearing
Heron
Jun 9, 2021, 12:35:57 PM6/9/21
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On 6/8/2021 4:49 PM, sms wrote:
> If you jailbreak your iPhone there are numerous GPS spoofing apps available.
How easy is it to jailbreak the newer iPhones?
> If you jailbreak your iPhone there are numerous GPS spoofing apps available.
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 12:38:00 PM6/9/21
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Ken Hart
Jun 9, 2021, 12:48:14 PM6/9/21
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On 6/9/2021 3:32 PM, Lewis wrote:
> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
> much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
> much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
paul
Jun 9, 2021, 1:01:57 PM6/9/21
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nospam wrote on 09.06.2021 12:04
You are used to iOS newsgroups nospam, where the bar on facts is set low.
On the adult OS newsgroups, you always get your head handed to you nospam.
The fact is you lied. Clear and simple.
People like you bother me because you have almost no redeeming qualities.
You are a despicable person with no qualms about leading people astray.
You and Jolly Roger & Lewis all own the same detestable disgusting traits.
What is wrong with you that you constantly claim iOS can do what Android
always has done just because you _hate_ that iOS can't even do it today?
Android even encourages it by having a default setting for Mock Location.
It just works.
--
You and Lewis and Jolly Roger _hate_ that iOS can't do what Android does.
>> I love these idiots who decide that because they don't know how to do
>> something it is impossible.
>
> yep.
>
> they don't realize that different platforms do things in different ways.
In other words, you lied, and then when you caught, you move the goalposts.
>> something it is impossible.
>
> yep.
>
> they don't realize that different platforms do things in different ways.
You are used to iOS newsgroups nospam, where the bar on facts is set low.
On the adult OS newsgroups, you always get your head handed to you nospam.
The fact is you lied. Clear and simple.
People like you bother me because you have almost no redeeming qualities.
You are a despicable person with no qualms about leading people astray.
You and Jolly Roger & Lewis all own the same detestable disgusting traits.
What is wrong with you that you constantly claim iOS can do what Android
always has done just because you _hate_ that iOS can't even do it today?
Android even encourages it by having a default setting for Mock Location.
It just works.
--
You and Lewis and Jolly Roger _hate_ that iOS can't do what Android does.
paul
Jun 9, 2021, 1:05:44 PM6/9/21
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Lewis wrote on 09.06.2021 15:34
> Nut wee have established that you have no fucking clue what you are
> talking about, so you making a unsubstantiated statement is about as
> useful as farting in a tornado.
When Lewis posts, it brings this newsgroup down to his child-like level.
> talking about, so you making a unsubstantiated statement is about as
> useful as farting in a tornado.
paul
Jun 9, 2021, 1:09:57 PM6/9/21
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Jolly Roger wrote on 09.06.2021 04:05
> And it's fucking pathetic.
When Jolly Roger posts, he brings this newsgroup down to his childish level.
> And it's fucking pathetic.
When Jolly Roger posts, he brings this newsgroup down to his childish level.
sms
Jun 9, 2021, 1:10:21 PM6/9/21
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repeated every time the phone is turned off then on. It is tethered the
first time then you can do it from the phone after that.
The Android model, where you have to enable "Developer Options" or where
you have to allow apps from "Unknown sources," forces you to acknowledge
what you're doing may have unintended consequences, but it lets you go
ahead and do it if you want to. There are a great many app stores
distributing Android applications that the Google Play store doesn't
have, including Amazon. In China, the Google Play store isn't even
available at all.
I think that the biggest use of GPS spoofing on the iPhone was for
Pokemon Go
<https://www.virtuallocation.com/fake-location/cydia-fake-location.html>, which
was rather silly (IMVAIO), but there are legitimate reasons to want to
spoof your GPS location.
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 1:35:54 PM6/9/21
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In article <s9qs61$890$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nos...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
> People like me bother others because I have almost no redeeming qualities.
>
> I am a despicable person
ftfy
wrote:
> People like me bother others because I have almost no redeeming qualities.
>
> I am a despicable person
ftfy
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 1:35:54 PM6/9/21
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In article <s9qrca$1qnl$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
look, which is not much different than finding a jailbreak tool online.
the latter might take an extra couple of minutes. big deal.
> Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.
they do that because jailbreaking is a *huge* security risk, as is
enabling android apps outside of the playstore.
and then people wonder why android is so easily hacked.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
> > much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
>
> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
it's buried in settings and also requires knowing about it and where to
> > Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
> > much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
>
> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
look, which is not much different than finding a jailbreak tool online.
the latter might take an extra couple of minutes. big deal.
> Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.
enabling android apps outside of the playstore.
and then people wonder why android is so easily hacked.
nospam
Jun 9, 2021, 1:35:56 PM6/9/21
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In article <s9qsd4$c2e$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nos...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
> When I post, it brings this newsgroup down to a child-like level.
ftfy
wrote:
> When I post, it brings this newsgroup down to a child-like level.
ftfy
paul
Jun 9, 2021, 6:28:54 PM6/9/21
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nospam wrote on 09.06.2021 19:35
an instant child when you were confronted with the facts that you lied.
Same with Lewis, Chris, Jolly Roger, Joerg Lorenz et. al.
*Why do all of you constantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.
I suspect you _hate_ iOS can't do even simple things Android easily does.
--
Android easily spoof GPS (it just works) and it's even in default settings.
>> I am a despicable person
>
> ftfy
Any adults on this newsgroup (there aren't many) will notice you turned into
>
> ftfy
an instant child when you were confronted with the facts that you lied.
Same with Lewis, Chris, Jolly Roger, Joerg Lorenz et. al.
*Why do all of you constantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.
I suspect you _hate_ iOS can't do even simple things Android easily does.
--
Android easily spoof GPS (it just works) and it's even in default settings.
paul
Jun 9, 2021, 6:43:30 PM6/9/21
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nospam wrote on 09.06.2021 19:35
> they do that because jailbreaking is a *huge* security risk, as is
> enabling android apps outside of the playstore.
Whoever made the claim sideloading & jailbreaking are similar is wrong.
> enabling android apps outside of the playstore.
To your point Apple put so many fatal design flaws in the *HARDWARE*
that Apple can't _prevent_ jailbreaking of almost all iPhones out there.
Fact: *The secure enclave is fatally flawed* (it's not even fixable).
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/05/apples-mac-t2-chip-has-an-unfixable-vulnerability-that-could-allow-root-access
> and then people wonder why android is so easily hacked.
And they have the capacity to parse advertising bullshit from reality.
--
Morons like you, Jolly Roger, Lewis, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, et. al. don't.
Lewis
Jun 9, 2021, 7:07:17 PM6/9/21
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In message <s9qrca$1qnl$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/2021 3:32 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
>> much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
> Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.
Yes, because jail breaking represents a security flaw being exploited.
> On 6/9/2021 3:32 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
>> much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
> Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.
If that bothers you, go run Android and be sure and have an anti virus
utility. Too bad that anti virus is almost certainly malware, but you
know, FREEDUMB!
--
You know a thorn can main / But a lover does the same / A gem will
reflect light / And a Fool will marvel at the sight / A fool such
as me, /Who sees not the gold, but the beauty of the shine
YK
Jun 10, 2021, 8:15:58 PM6/10/21
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You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
That's because iOS isn't Android.
But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.
By not being able to do things like that.
Now shut up and go back to doing unsafe things on Android.
That's because iOS isn't Android.
But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.
By not being able to do things like that.
Now shut up and go back to doing unsafe things on Android.
sms
Jun 10, 2021, 8:45:29 PM6/10/21
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spoofing isn't one of those unsafe things. These are vetted apps on the
Play Store, not some questionable apk that you have to side load.
And BTW, while it's true that nospam was lying about using an app to
spoof GPS on iOS, you can still spoof GPS on an iPhone, you just need to
do it by tethering a Mac or Windows PC to the iPhone to set a location
rather than by using an app or a VPN with spoofing as you can do in
Android. It's inconvenient, but it's not impossible
<https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524>. If it were really
unsafe then Apple would not have allowed spoofing even using a tethered
solution.
One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.
With both iOS and Android, the apps that the OS provider doesn't want
you to have are often the apps that greatly improve functionality of the
device.
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 8:59:39 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9u9vp$2rm$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, YK <youki...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
it can be done.
> That's because iOS isn't Android.
which is why the methods to do it are different.
> But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.
generally true.
wrote:
> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
> That's because iOS isn't Android.
> But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 8:59:40 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9ubn7$k7b$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
i location spoofing is possible, which it is. i did not specify the
method(s).
you are deliberately twisting things just to bash.
> you can still spoof GPS on an iPhone, you just need to
> do it by tethering a Mac or Windows PC to the iPhone to set a location
> rather than by using an app or a VPN with spoofing as you can do in
> Android.
you're backpedaling, but at least you admit that it can be done.
you might consider not contradicting yourself in the very same post.
> It's inconvenient, but it's not impossible
> <https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524>. If it were really
> unsafe then Apple would not have allowed spoofing even using a tethered
> solution.
that particular method does look to be inconvenient, but it's not the
only way.
you really need to stop pretending to know what you're talking about,
especially about ios.
> One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
> The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
> file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
> The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
> option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.
there are *significantly* more effective methods of content blocking
than by editing a hosts file, which is a *huge* security hole on any
platform and it doesn't even work that well anyway.
not only is content blocking fully supported on ios, but apple even has
extensive documentation on how to do it.
you really need to stop pretending to know what you're talking about,
especially about ios.
> With both iOS and Android, the apps that the OS provider doesn't want
> you to have are often the apps that greatly improve functionality of the
> device.
false.
as i said, apple fully supports content blockers and ios itself even
blocks certain things without the user needing to install anything
extra.
google, on the other hand, hates it since ads are how they make money,
and even if you install a content blocker, you're still being tracked.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> And BTW, while it's true that nospam was lying about using an app to
> spoof GPS on iOS,
you are lying about what i said. you're a desperate troll.
> And BTW, while it's true that nospam was lying about using an app to
> spoof GPS on iOS,
i location spoofing is possible, which it is. i did not specify the
method(s).
you are deliberately twisting things just to bash.
> you can still spoof GPS on an iPhone, you just need to
> do it by tethering a Mac or Windows PC to the iPhone to set a location
> rather than by using an app or a VPN with spoofing as you can do in
> Android.
you might consider not contradicting yourself in the very same post.
> It's inconvenient, but it's not impossible
> <https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524>. If it were really
> unsafe then Apple would not have allowed spoofing even using a tethered
> solution.
only way.
you really need to stop pretending to know what you're talking about,
especially about ios.
> One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
> The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
> file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
> The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
> option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.
than by editing a hosts file, which is a *huge* security hole on any
platform and it doesn't even work that well anyway.
not only is content blocking fully supported on ios, but apple even has
extensive documentation on how to do it.
you really need to stop pretending to know what you're talking about,
especially about ios.
> With both iOS and Android, the apps that the OS provider doesn't want
> you to have are often the apps that greatly improve functionality of the
> device.
as i said, apple fully supports content blockers and ios itself even
blocks certain things without the user needing to install anything
extra.
google, on the other hand, hates it since ads are how they make money,
and even if you install a content blocker, you're still being tracked.
YK
Jun 10, 2021, 9:13:55 PM6/10/21
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iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.
sms
Jun 10, 2021, 9:22:56 PM6/10/21
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On 6/10/2021 6:13 PM, YK wrote:
> iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.
LOL.
> iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.
Lewis
Jun 10, 2021, 9:30:07 PM6/10/21
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In message <s9u9vp$2rm$1...@gioia.aioe.org> YK <youki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
You are wrong.
> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
--
For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier... I put them
in the same room and let them fight it out.
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 9:36:49 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9udtb$7mb$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
translated: sms further demonstrates he has no clue.
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 9:36:50 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9udcd$13tn$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, YK <youki...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.
correct.
instead, ios offers content blocking, which is much more than just
blocking ads, and is done in a safe and effective manner.
wrote:
> iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.
instead, ios offers content blocking, which is much more than just
blocking ads, and is done in a safe and effective manner.
Ken Hart
Jun 10, 2021, 10:11:30 PM6/10/21
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On 6/11/2021 3:59 AM, nospam wrote:
>> One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
>> The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
>> file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
>> The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
>> option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.
>
> there are *significantly* more effective methods of content blocking
> than by editing a hosts file, which is a *huge* security hole on any
> platform and it doesn't even work that well anyway.
Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?
>> One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
>> The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
>> file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
>> The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
>> option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.
>
> there are *significantly* more effective methods of content blocking
> than by editing a hosts file, which is a *huge* security hole on any
> platform and it doesn't even work that well anyway.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
sms
Jun 10, 2021, 10:16:48 PM6/10/21
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On 6/10/2021 7:11 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
<snip>
> Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?
That's one thing it does. But the Android apk version also allows you to
set a hosts file, either on the phone or a link to a hosts file.
A hosts file is a very effective method of blocking not only ads but
links to rogue content, it's one way to increase a device's security,
whether a computer or a phone.
There's one workaround, somewhat, detailed here:
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/17077/add-a-hosts-file-entry-without-jailbreaking>.
<snip>
> Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?
set a hosts file, either on the phone or a link to a hosts file.
A hosts file is a very effective method of blocking not only ads but
links to rogue content, it's one way to increase a device's security,
whether a computer or a phone.
There's one workaround, somewhat, detailed here:
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/17077/add-a-hosts-file-entry-without-jailbreaking>.
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 10:23:07 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9uh2b$udq$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
difficult to maintain since the sites to be blocked change very
frequently.
it's also a *huge* security hole just begging to be exploited.
using a supported method is much better, not just for the security
benefits, but because it's constantly kept up to date (at least the
better ones do).
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> A hosts file is a very effective method of blocking not only ads but
> links to rogue content, it's one way to increase a device's security,
> whether a computer or a phone.
using a hosts file to block ads is not that effective and extremely
> A hosts file is a very effective method of blocking not only ads but
> links to rogue content, it's one way to increase a device's security,
> whether a computer or a phone.
difficult to maintain since the sites to be blocked change very
frequently.
it's also a *huge* security hole just begging to be exploited.
using a supported method is much better, not just for the security
benefits, but because it's constantly kept up to date (at least the
better ones do).
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 10:23:09 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9ugod$5lg$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
wifi *is* data.
did you mean cellular?
the ios version looks like it works systemwide for both.
it's also not the only option.
did you mean cellular?
the ios version looks like it works systemwide for both.
it's also not the only option.
Ken Hart
Jun 10, 2021, 10:39:18 PM6/10/21
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nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 10:45:14 PM6/10/21
to
In article <s9uici$prr$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
one clue is there's no ios version.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?
> >
> > wifi *is* data.
> >
> > did you mean cellular?
> >
> > the ios version looks like it works systemwide for both.
> >
> > it's also not the only option.
>
> Is this it? https://netguard.me/
no.
> >> Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?
> >
> > wifi *is* data.
> >
> > did you mean cellular?
> >
> > the ios version looks like it works systemwide for both.
> >
> > it's also not the only option.
>
> Is this it? https://netguard.me/
one clue is there's no ios version.
sms
Jun 10, 2021, 11:06:10 PM6/10/21
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On 6/10/2021 7:39 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
<snip>
Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
<snip>
same app, or just an app with the same name. There are other apps that
do the same thing, block specific apps from using data. The real value
of Netguard for Android is the hosts file capability since a host file
is one of the best ways to prevent ads, block rogue content, and stop
unwanted redirects.
nospam
Jun 10, 2021, 11:24:55 PM6/10/21
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In article <s9ujuv$o65$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
same names.
> There are other apps that
> do the same thing, block specific apps from using data.
there are a wide variety of content blockers.
> The real value
> of Netguard for Android is the hosts file capability since a host file
> is one of the best ways to prevent ads, block rogue content, and stop
> unwanted redirects.
false, no matter how many times you say it.
the reality is that it's one of the best ways to pwn a device and one
of the worst ways to block ads.
it also does nothing for redirects.
you're trolling.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > Is this it? https://netguard.me/
>
> Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
> same app, or just an app with the same name.
it's quite obvious it's not the same, and there are many apps with the
> > Is this it? https://netguard.me/
>
> Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
> same app, or just an app with the same name.
same names.
> There are other apps that
> do the same thing, block specific apps from using data.
> The real value
> of Netguard for Android is the hosts file capability since a host file
> is one of the best ways to prevent ads, block rogue content, and stop
> unwanted redirects.
the reality is that it's one of the best ways to pwn a device and one
of the worst ways to block ads.
it also does nothing for redirects.
you're trolling.
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 8:52:02 AM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 1:6 AM, sms wrote:
> Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
> same app, or just an app with the same name.
Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
> Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
> same app, or just an app with the same name.
https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
The iOS app appears to be just copying the NETGUARD name and nothing else.
The Github NETGUARD says it's the first free open source firewall.
Low on the list of features they mention the optional ad blocking.
Simple to use
No root required
100% open source
No calling home
No tracking or analytics
Actively developed and supported
Android 5.1 and later supported
IPv4/IPv6 TCP/UDP supported
Tethering supported
Optionally allow when screen on
Optionally block when roaming
Optionally block system applications
Optionally forward ports, also to external addresses (not available if installed from the Play store)
Optionally notify when an application accesses the internet
Optionally record network usage per application per address
*Optionally block ads using a hosts file* (not available if installed from the Play store)
Material design theme with light and dark theme
Log all outgoing traffic; search and filter access attempts; export PCAP files to analyze traffic
Allow/block individual addresses per application
New application notifications; configure NetGuard directly from the notification
Display network speed graph in a status bar notification
Select from five additional themes in both light and dark version
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 9:19:44 AM6/11/21
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In article <s9vm9e$1ecv$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> The iOS app appears to be just copying the NETGUARD name and nothing else.
baseless accusation.
the author of the ios app probably has never heard of the android-only
version.
> The Github NETGUARD says it's the first free open source firewall.
who cares.
what matters is how effective it is.
> Low on the list of features they mention the optional ad blocking.
in other words, it's not very effective for the task being discussed.
> Simple to use
> No root required
> 100% open source
> No calling home
> No tracking or analytics
see below.
> Actively developed and supported
> Android 5.1 and later supported
> IPv4/IPv6 TCP/UDP supported
> Tethering supported
> Optionally allow when screen on
> Optionally block when roaming
> Optionally block system applications
> Optionally forward ports, also to external addresses (not available if
> installed from the Play store)
> Optionally notify when an application accesses the internet
> Optionally record network usage per application per address
> *Optionally block ads using a hosts file* (not available if installed from
> the Play store)
in other words, it *doesn't* have the very feature he claimed is so
important, except if the app is sideloaded, which itself is a security
risk, in addition to the host file issue.
the reason the play store version doesn't support that is because
allowing apps to modify the hosts file is a huge, huge security hole,
which both google and apple correctly prohibit, and because are *much*
better and vastly more effective ways for content blocking.
> Material design theme with light and dark theme
> Log all outgoing traffic; search and filter access attempts; export PCAP
> files to analyze traffic
no tracking or analytics, except for the feature that is designed
specifically for tracking and analytics.
you can't make this stuff up.
> Allow/block individual addresses per application
> New application notifications; configure NetGuard directly from the
> notification
> Display network speed graph in a status bar notification
> Select from five additional themes in both light and dark version
because 5 themes for an app that runs in the background is important.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
> > same app, or just an app with the same name.
>
> Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
> https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
there is no 'correct' version.
> > Yes, that's for Android. I'm not sure if the iOS version is actually the
> > same app, or just an app with the same name.
>
> Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
> https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
> The iOS app appears to be just copying the NETGUARD name and nothing else.
the author of the ios app probably has never heard of the android-only
version.
> The Github NETGUARD says it's the first free open source firewall.
what matters is how effective it is.
> Low on the list of features they mention the optional ad blocking.
> Simple to use
> No root required
> 100% open source
> No calling home
> No tracking or analytics
> Actively developed and supported
> Android 5.1 and later supported
> IPv4/IPv6 TCP/UDP supported
> Tethering supported
> Optionally allow when screen on
> Optionally block when roaming
> Optionally block system applications
> Optionally forward ports, also to external addresses (not available if
> installed from the Play store)
> Optionally notify when an application accesses the internet
> Optionally record network usage per application per address
> *Optionally block ads using a hosts file* (not available if installed from
> the Play store)
important, except if the app is sideloaded, which itself is a security
risk, in addition to the host file issue.
the reason the play store version doesn't support that is because
allowing apps to modify the hosts file is a huge, huge security hole,
which both google and apple correctly prohibit, and because are *much*
better and vastly more effective ways for content blocking.
> Material design theme with light and dark theme
> Log all outgoing traffic; search and filter access attempts; export PCAP
> files to analyze traffic
specifically for tracking and analytics.
you can't make this stuff up.
> Allow/block individual addresses per application
> New application notifications; configure NetGuard directly from the
> notification
> Display network speed graph in a status bar notification
> Select from five additional themes in both light and dark version
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 10:18:44 AM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 9:19 AM, nospam wrote:
>> Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
>> https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
>
> there is no 'correct' version.
The iOS NETGUARD apps aren't the open source firewall sms referred to.
>> Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
>> https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
>
> there is no 'correct' version.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/netguard/id446320156
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/netguard-for-secure-wifi-proxy/id1251263383
This might work though.
https://nextdns.io/
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 10:27:57 AM6/11/21
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In article <s9vrbu$1o70$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/netguard/id446320156
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/netguard-for-secure-wifi-proxy/id1251263383
you're blindly searching for things you do not understand.
the first one is quite obviously unrelated to content blocking. why
even mention it?
the second one is a content blocker. there are many others.
it does work.
stop pretending to know things you clearly do not.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
> >> https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
> >
> > there is no 'correct' version.
>
> The iOS NETGUARD apps aren't the open source firewall sms referred to.
further demonstrating how little he knows.
> >> Github confirms the correct web site for NETGUARD (and no iOS version).
> >> https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard
> >
> > there is no 'correct' version.
>
> The iOS NETGUARD apps aren't the open source firewall sms referred to.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/netguard/id446320156
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/netguard-for-secure-wifi-proxy/id1251263383
you're blindly searching for things you do not understand.
the first one is quite obviously unrelated to content blocking. why
even mention it?
the second one is a content blocker. there are many others.
it does work.
stop pretending to know things you clearly do not.
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 10:45:18 AM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 10:27 AM, nospam wrote:
>> This might work though.
>> https://nextdns.io/
>
> it does work.
I signed up for nextdns but then found out it sends everything to them.
>> This might work though.
>> https://nextdns.io/
>
> it does work.
That means blocked requests don't stay only on the phone like with NETGUARD.
> stop pretending to know things you clearly do not.
> the second one is a content blocker. there are many others.
What similar free firewall/adblock app works within only the iPhone/iPad?
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
sms
Jun 11, 2021, 10:55:13 AM6/11/21
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maintained externally by the DNS provider. On Netguard you can actually
choose to use the hosts file in the Android device or link to an
external hosts file so you don't have to keep updating the internal
hosts file. Or you can forget about Netguard and just modify the Android
hosts file directly but you would want to update it every couple of
months. Unfortunately iOS doesn't allow modification of the hosts file
because they don't want you blocking ads or tracking sites.
Since apparently some people (or at least one person!) doesn't
understand the benefits of a hosts file, he can learn about it here:
<https://www.loginradius.com/blog/async/hosts-file/>.
A good hosts file will also speed up the loading of web content because
you no longer will have to load ads, banners, etc.. The other big
benefit of a good hosts file is that it will block tracking sites.
Obviously, a lot of companies would prefer that you not have hosts file!
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 11:22:36 AM6/11/21
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In article <s9vstq$fo5$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> That means blocked requests don't stay only on the phone like with NETGUARD.
no, it means you don't understand what it does and how it works.
> > stop pretending to know things you clearly do not.
>
> The real NETGUARD doesn't send anything anywhere outside the phone.
why don't you go tell the authors of the other netguard apps you found
that they aren't real.
be sure to post the un-redacted responses.
> > the second one is a content blocker. there are many others.
>
> Tell us something useful instead of blandly saying there are "many others."
> What similar free firewall/adblock app works within only the iPhone/iPad?
search engines not working for you anymore?
and who said anything about free?
if an author of a content blocker app wants to charge for their work,
then that's their choice.
there are both free and paid solutions. users can choose whatever works
best for them.
the original claim was that apple prohibits content blocking, that
claim is utterly false.
google on the other hand is not thrilled with ad-blocking since it
directly impacts their revenue and unlike apple, *does* limit how much
blocking can be done for apps in the play store and within android
itself.
another option is for those with the knowledge and skills (i.e., not
you), who can write their own content blocker if they so choose. apple
has extensive documentation along with tutorial videos.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> This might work though.
> >> https://nextdns.io/
> >
> > it does work.
>
> I signed up for nextdns but then found out it sends everything to them.
no it doesn't.
> >> This might work though.
> >> https://nextdns.io/
> >
> > it does work.
>
> I signed up for nextdns but then found out it sends everything to them.
> That means blocked requests don't stay only on the phone like with NETGUARD.
> > stop pretending to know things you clearly do not.
>
> The real NETGUARD doesn't send anything anywhere outside the phone.
that they aren't real.
be sure to post the un-redacted responses.
> > the second one is a content blocker. there are many others.
>
> Tell us something useful instead of blandly saying there are "many others."
> What similar free firewall/adblock app works within only the iPhone/iPad?
and who said anything about free?
if an author of a content blocker app wants to charge for their work,
then that's their choice.
there are both free and paid solutions. users can choose whatever works
best for them.
the original claim was that apple prohibits content blocking, that
claim is utterly false.
google on the other hand is not thrilled with ad-blocking since it
directly impacts their revenue and unlike apple, *does* limit how much
blocking can be done for apps in the play store and within android
itself.
another option is for those with the knowledge and skills (i.e., not
you), who can write their own content blocker if they so choose. apple
has extensive documentation along with tutorial videos.
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 11:22:37 AM6/11/21
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In article <s9vtgc$9ps$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
the list of sites is constantly changing. there are new sites now that
didn't exist a few hours ago.
some people update their block list daily, but most people find that
weekly updates is a good tradeoff.
> Unfortunately iOS doesn't allow modification of the hosts file
> because they don't want you blocking ads or tracking sites.
nope. that's entirely wrong.
both google and apple block modification of the hosts file because it's
a huge, huge security hole.
apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
*encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
write content blockers.
> Since apparently some people (or at least one person!) doesn't
> understand the benefits of a hosts file,
talking about yourself again?
you're obviously trolling, but the disinformation must be corrected so
that others are not misled by your babble.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Or you can forget about Netguard and just modify the Android
> hosts file directly but you would want to update it every couple of
> months.
months is *much* too long.
> Or you can forget about Netguard and just modify the Android
> hosts file directly but you would want to update it every couple of
> months.
the list of sites is constantly changing. there are new sites now that
didn't exist a few hours ago.
some people update their block list daily, but most people find that
weekly updates is a good tradeoff.
> Unfortunately iOS doesn't allow modification of the hosts file
> because they don't want you blocking ads or tracking sites.
both google and apple block modification of the hosts file because it's
a huge, huge security hole.
apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
*encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
write content blockers.
> Since apparently some people (or at least one person!) doesn't
> understand the benefits of a hosts file,
you're obviously trolling, but the disinformation must be corrected so
that others are not misled by your babble.
sms
Jun 11, 2021, 11:43:59 AM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 7:45 AM, Ken Hart wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 10:27 AM, nospam wrote:
>>> This might work though.
>>> https://nextdns.io/
>>
>> it does work.
>
> I signed up for nextdns but then found out it sends everything to them.
> That means blocked requests don't stay only on the phone like with
> NETGUARD.
There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
> On 6/11/2021 10:27 AM, nospam wrote:
>>> This might work though.
>>> https://nextdns.io/
>>
>> it does work.
>
> I signed up for nextdns but then found out it sends everything to them.
> That means blocked requests don't stay only on the phone like with
> NETGUARD.
go into a lot of detail about how it works.
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-adblock-privacy/id1047223162#?platform=iphone>
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 11:58:55 AM6/11/21
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In article <sa00bt$rd$1...@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:
>
> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
yes they do.
wrote:
>
> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
Lewis
Jun 11, 2021, 12:00:45 PM6/11/21
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suing third party software.
--
The world is made of four elements: Earth, Air, Fire and Water. This
is a fact well known even to Corporal Nobbs. It's also wrong.
There's a fifth element, and generally it's called Surprise.
--The Truth
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 12:06:49 PM6/11/21
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In article <slrnsc725b....@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
> Local VPN works. I believe a profile also works, which doesnšt require
> suing third party software.
don't go suing third party software :)
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
> Local VPN works. I believe a profile also works, which doesnšt require
> suing third party software.
don't go suing third party software :)
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 3:38:25 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 11:58 AM, nospam wrote:
>> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
>> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
>
> yes they do.
Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
>> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
>> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
>
> yes they do.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 3:47:01 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 11:22 AM, nospam wrote:
> apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
> *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
> os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
> write content blockers.
The reason I download existing apps is I don't want to write my own apps.
> apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
> *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
> os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
> write content blockers.
There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
> the disinformation must be corrected so
> that others are not misled by your babble.
work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
sms
Jun 11, 2021, 4:22:20 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 12:38 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
> Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
For what you want to do you'll have to Jailbreak. You're trying to do
things that Apple explicitly doesn't allow to be done on iOS, for
obvious reasons.
From <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18076621>
"Jailbreak it, install openssh, ssh in and edit /etc/hosts. There's also
packages in Cydia that add adblock lists to your hosts for you."
sms
Jun 11, 2021, 4:23:43 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 12:46 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that
> will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web
> browser?
LOL, you'll never get an answer to that question from nospam (or more
> will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web
> browser?
accurately, "allspam."
Lewis
Jun 11, 2021, 7:32:15 PM6/11/21
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In message <sa0glr$kf5$1...@dont-email.me> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 12:38 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
> <snip>
>> Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
> For what you want to do you'll have to Jailbreak. You're trying to do
> things that Apple explicitly doesn't allow to be done on iOS, for
> obvious reasons.
As usual, you have no clue what you are talking about.
> On 6/11/2021 12:38 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
> <snip>
>> Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
> For what you want to do you'll have to Jailbreak. You're trying to do
> things that Apple explicitly doesn't allow to be done on iOS, for
> obvious reasons.
> From <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18076621>
> "Jailbreak it, install openssh, ssh in and edit /etc/hosts. There's also
researching, so I shall break everything instead of actually learning
anything."
--
I was good and deleted the "You *&;#$ing moron" before posting aren't
you proud of me?
Lewis
Jun 11, 2021, 7:36:36 PM6/11/21
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In message <sa0eji$i86$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 11:22 AM, nospam wrote:
>> apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
>> *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
>> os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
>> write content blockers.
> The reason I download existing apps is I don't want to write my own apps.
> There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
There is in iOS 15. Sort of.
> On 6/11/2021 11:22 AM, nospam wrote:
>> apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
>> *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
>> os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
>> write content blockers.
> The reason I download existing apps is I don't want to write my own apps.
> There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
A lot of malicious shit is already blocked in iOS starting back in iOS
12, at least, if not earlier.
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
that feature as it requires a subscription.
--
So now you know the words to our song, pretty soon you'll all be
singing along, when you're sad, when you're lonely and it all
turns out wrong...
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 8:25:26 PM6/11/21
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In article <sa0eji$i86$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
the point is that app developers are *not* prohibited in any way, shape
or form from writing content blockers on ios.
content blocking (more than just ads) is fully supported on ios.
those who claim otherwise are ignorant or simply trolling, and in some
cases, both.
> There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
why should there be? there is no requirement for developers to write
anything in particular.
if the demand is there, developers will fill it, regardless of platform.
if they don't, then the demand was not big enough to justify their time.
if you want certain functionality and nobody else has created an app,
then it's an opportunity to learn how to do it yourself or hire someone
who can. whether it's worth the investment is another story.
as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
is why there are numerous content blocking options.
> > the disinformation must be corrected so
> > that others are not misled by your babble.
>
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
i'm not your personal assistant.
there's this thing called a search engine. you managed to figure out
how to use it to find two netguard apps, so you can figure out how to
search for other ios content blockers.
and that's assuming you even have an ios device, which i highly, highly
doubt.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
> > *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
> > os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
> > write content blockers.
>
> The reason I download existing apps is I don't want to write my own apps.
that's what most people do. nobody said you had to write your own apps.
> > apple not only allows blocking ads and trackers and much more, but
> > *encourages* it, and with ios 15, even does some of it as part of the
> > os itself. they offer extensive and thorough documentation on how to
> > write content blockers.
>
> The reason I download existing apps is I don't want to write my own apps.
the point is that app developers are *not* prohibited in any way, shape
or form from writing content blockers on ios.
content blocking (more than just ads) is fully supported on ios.
those who claim otherwise are ignorant or simply trolling, and in some
cases, both.
> There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
anything in particular.
if the demand is there, developers will fill it, regardless of platform.
if they don't, then the demand was not big enough to justify their time.
if you want certain functionality and nobody else has created an app,
then it's an opportunity to learn how to do it yourself or hire someone
who can. whether it's worth the investment is another story.
as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
is why there are numerous content blocking options.
> > the disinformation must be corrected so
> > that others are not misled by your babble.
>
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
there's this thing called a search engine. you managed to figure out
how to use it to find two netguard apps, so you can figure out how to
search for other ios content blockers.
and that's assuming you even have an ios device, which i highly, highly
doubt.
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 8:25:27 PM6/11/21
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In article <sa0e3d$alh$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
this may come to you as a surprise, but different app developers create
different products that do different things.
if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
that does.
assuming you even have an ios device, that is.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
> >> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
> >
> > yes they do.
>
> Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
nobody said it did.
> >> There is also AdGuard which appears to do the same thing, but they don't
> >> go into a lot of detail about how it works.
> >
> > yes they do.
>
> Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
this may come to you as a surprise, but different app developers create
different products that do different things.
if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
that does.
assuming you even have an ios device, that is.
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 8:25:29 PM6/11/21
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In article <sa0glr$kf5$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.
> For what you want to do you'll have to Jailbreak. You're trying to do
> things that Apple explicitly doesn't allow to be done on iOS, for
> obvious reasons.
this is flat out false.
not only does apple allow content blocking, but they have extensive
documentation on how to do it.
you are a clueless ignorant troll.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
>
> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
> > Does iOS ADGUARD work for (firewall & ads) the same as the real NETGUARD?
>
> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.
> For what you want to do you'll have to Jailbreak. You're trying to do
> things that Apple explicitly doesn't allow to be done on iOS, for
> obvious reasons.
not only does apple allow content blocking, but they have extensive
documentation on how to do it.
you are a clueless ignorant troll.
nospam
Jun 11, 2021, 8:25:30 PM6/11/21
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In article <slrnsc7ss3....@m1mini.local>, Lewis
ios 15 will block tracking pixels in email, plus private relay is a vpn
done right.
with existing vpns, you have to trust the vpn provider. they get to see
*all* traffic routed through them.
some vpn providers are pure sleaze. others inject ads.
anyone can claim no logging, but that's impossible to prove. some claim
no logging but have certain user limits (usually speed or data), which
requires logging to know if someone has reached their limit.
apple split it into two independent parts, making it impossible to link
anything back to a particular user. even apple doesn't know who
accesses what.
> A lot of malicious shit is already blocked in iOS starting back in iOS
> 12, at least, if not earlier.
all versions of ios do, depending on what you consider 'malicious shit'.
and then there's facebook, who is feeling the impact of ios blocking
the ability to track users, so much so that mark zuckerberg fabricated
a crazy scenario where businesses would have to charge users more for
their services or in some cases, shut down, because they can't monetize
users anymore.
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> > There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
>
> There is in iOS 15. Sort of.
more than sort of.
> > There should be an iOS content blocker for all apps, not just for Safari.
>
> There is in iOS 15. Sort of.
ios 15 will block tracking pixels in email, plus private relay is a vpn
done right.
with existing vpns, you have to trust the vpn provider. they get to see
*all* traffic routed through them.
some vpn providers are pure sleaze. others inject ads.
anyone can claim no logging, but that's impossible to prove. some claim
no logging but have certain user limits (usually speed or data), which
requires logging to know if someone has reached their limit.
apple split it into two independent parts, making it impossible to link
anything back to a particular user. even apple doesn't know who
accesses what.
> A lot of malicious shit is already blocked in iOS starting back in iOS
> 12, at least, if not earlier.
and then there's facebook, who is feeling the impact of ios blocking
the ability to track users, so much so that mark zuckerberg fabricated
a crazy scenario where businesses would have to charge users more for
their services or in some cases, shut down, because they can't monetize
users anymore.
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 11:16:21 PM6/11/21
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On 6/12/2021 2:25 AM, nospam wrote:
>> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>
> the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
>> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>
> the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html
The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
> there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.
work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 11:20:16 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
> that does.
Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
> that does.
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 11:23:02 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 5:31 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
Ken Hart
Jun 11, 2021, 11:35:27 PM6/11/21
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On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
If there "numerous content blocking apps" which work on the iPhone,
just say which one you know of that works completely on the iPhone.
--
Ken Hart
kwh...@frontier.com
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 12:00:42 AM6/12/21
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In article <sa18u2$1r9t$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
neither of you understand much of anything about ios and both of you
are quite obviously trolling.
> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html
> The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
so what?
just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
other developers chose differently.
do you not understand that different apps have different features?
> > there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.
>
> Which of those "many many more" App Store blockers do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
why do you care?
based on your posts, you aren't actually interested in an answer.
do you even have an iphone?
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> >> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
> >
> > the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
>
> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
he is not correct. nor are you.
> >> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
> >
> > the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
>
> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
neither of you understand much of anything about ios and both of you
are quite obviously trolling.
> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html
> The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
other developers chose differently.
do you not understand that different apps have different features?
> > there are more options than just adguard. many, many more options.
>
> Which of those "many many more" App Store blockers do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
based on your posts, you aren't actually interested in an answer.
do you even have an iphone?
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 12:00:43 AM6/12/21
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In article <sa19ak$1uoi$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
because not only is it close, it does *exactly* what you claim to want
to do.
<https://www.adblockios.com>
AdBlock for iOS works seamlessly with ad-displaying apps. Forget
about ads in games, utilities and on websites.
AdBlock for iOS allows you to create your own list of blocked domains
and synchronise your filters between all your devices using iCloud.
AdBlock for iOS does not send your Internet traffic through proxy or
any VPN server. All of your connections stay direct, fast and secure.
Setting up AdBlock for iOS is simple! Just download the app, import a
HOSTS file with domain names, and enable the "magic switch". It takes
less than 30 seconds to complete the setup.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> > AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> > the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
>
> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
you're very confused about what it is you're supposedly asking for,
>
> > AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> > the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
>
> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
because not only is it close, it does *exactly* what you claim to want
to do.
<https://www.adblockios.com>
AdBlock for iOS works seamlessly with ad-displaying apps. Forget
about ads in games, utilities and on websites.
AdBlock for iOS allows you to create your own list of blocked domains
and synchronise your filters between all your devices using iCloud.
AdBlock for iOS does not send your Internet traffic through proxy or
any VPN server. All of your connections stay direct, fast and secure.
Setting up AdBlock for iOS is simple! Just download the app, import a
HOSTS file with domain names, and enable the "magic switch". It takes
less than 30 seconds to complete the setup.
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 12:00:44 AM6/12/21
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In article <sa1a1t$5lk$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
no matter what anyone suggests, you will find some mythical fault in an
attempt to disqualify it, even when the fault is bogus, as you've done
at least twice already.
you also don't understand what i said about sleazy vpns.
<kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> > as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
> > is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>
> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
you're just playing games.
> > as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
> > is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>
> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
no matter what anyone suggests, you will find some mythical fault in an
attempt to disqualify it, even when the fault is bogus, as you've done
at least twice already.
you also don't understand what i said about sleazy vpns.
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:13:20 AM6/12/21
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In message <110620212025250075%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sa0eji$i86$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> those who claim otherwise are ignorant or simply trolling, and in some
> cases, both.
Some of them are outright lying.
> In article <sa0eji$i86$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> those who claim otherwise are ignorant or simply trolling, and in some
> cases, both.
--
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him an
he's warm for the rest of his life."
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:14:47 AM6/12/21
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In message <sa1a1t$5lk$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
What the hell are you talking about? Do you have even the slightest idea
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
of how applications WORK?
No one said anything at all about blocking on "some Internet server"
--
You can find any pattern you want to any level of precision you want
If you ignore enough data.
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:17:37 AM6/12/21
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In message <sa195e$1tbj$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
>> that does.
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
Since you have already been told one, Arleen, you are obviously doing
> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
>> that does.
> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
your usual shit of ignoring any answers so you can keep asking the same
idiotic question over and over again in the desperate hope someone will
think you know what the fuck you are talking about.
--
"Whose motorcycle is this?" "It's chopper, baby." "Whose chopper is
this?" "It's Zed's." "Who's Zed?" "Zed' dead, baby. Zed's dead."
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:28:24 AM6/12/21
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In message <sa18u2$1r9t$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/12/2021 2:25 AM, nospam wrote:
>>> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>>
>> the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
If you are asking about the ability of two specific products that is a
> On 6/12/2021 2:25 AM, nospam wrote:
>>> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>>
>> the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
whole world of difference between claiming that iOS can't do what you
want. One is comparing two specific apps, the other is a bullshit lie
based on ignorance and cluelessness.
> Which of those "many many more" App Store blockers do you suggest that will
> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
this answer, perhaps YOU are the one who needs to find out if there is
something that will satisfy your needs.
See, I don't care. I run very few third party apps and none from
companies or people I distrust. So no Farcebook apps on my devices, no
apps from developers I've never heard of.Most of the third party apps I
run are from people I know directly, or know with at most two degrees of
separation. So while I do not know Underscore, I know people who know
underscore. I don't know Brian Mueller, but I know several people who
know him. I don't know Zach Cage, but I know people who know people who
know him.
There are a few games where I do not know the developers, but they are
games that Apple has featured and that a lot of people I trust run, and
so I am confident they are safe.
If I had an app where I was concerned about it enough to want a content
blocker, I would delete the fucking app (or, more likely, never have
installed it in the first place).
Running shit apps is something Androolers do.
--
Y is for YORRICK whose head was knocked in
Z is for ZILLAH who drank too much gin
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:30:03 AM6/12/21
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In message <120620210000404975%nos...@nospam.invalid> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sa18u2$1r9t$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> >> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>> >
>> > the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
>>
>> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
> he is not correct. nor are you.
> neither of you understand much of anything about ios and both of you
> are quite obviously trolling.
>> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
>> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html
>> The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
>> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
> so what?
> just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
> mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
> that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
It's only 99% of web use on iOS, can't imagine why they don't bother
> In article <sa18u2$1r9t$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
> <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> >> The issue with Adguard is that it is only for Safari.
>> >
>> > the issue with your posts is that you're trolling.
>>
>> The ADGUARD website seems to indicate that sms is correct & you are not.
> he is not correct. nor are you.
> neither of you understand much of anything about ios and both of you
> are quite obviously trolling.
>> The iOS ADGUARD web page says the iOS version only works for Safari.
>> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-ios/overview.html
>> The Android ADGUARD says it works for all apps, not just one web browser.
>> https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
> so what?
> just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
> mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
> that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
with other browsers.
--
Sarah Conner: “What are you doing?"
Grace: “Future shit.”
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:33:35 AM6/12/21
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In message <sa19ak$1uoi$1...@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 5:31 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
>> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
No body knows what you are "asking for" because all you have said is
> On 6/11/2021 5:31 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
>> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
> That's not even close to what we're asking for & to what we're comparing to.
"content blockers".
JR gave you a content clocker and, as nospam predicted, you dismissed it
as not meeting your unstated criteria.
Here's the answer: Run android. No one cares. Go the fuck away and be
happy in your illusion that you are making a smart choice. NO ONE CARES.
No one is going to come to your androol group and tell you about how
great iOS is because we don't fucking care what platform you use.
You are pathetic. You are sad. You are desperate. You are a fool.
--
How do you talk about me behind my back?
Walk ahead of me and I'll think of something.
-- Bold Venture, Deadly Merchandise
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 7:37:50 AM6/12/21
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In message <iii31c...@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
TWO DOLLARS! WHAT A FUCKING RIP OFF!
Why, on ANDROID that would be FREE! FREEEEEEEEE I TELLS YOU!
FREEDUMB! FREEDUMB!
--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
Pinky: I think so, Brain! (Sprays his breath)
Brain: Er... then again, let's not let our enthusiasm
overwhelm us!
> On 2021-06-11, Ken Hart <kwh...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
>> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
>>
>> Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
>> work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
> AdBlock by FutureMind blocks advertising DNS requests in all apps across
> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
ZOMG! THEY WANT MONEY! I AM NOT PAYING $2 FOR THAT!
> the entire operating system, and works fairly well.
TWO DOLLARS! WHAT A FUCKING RIP OFF!
Why, on ANDROID that would be FREE! FREEEEEEEEE I TELLS YOU!
FREEDUMB! FREEDUMB!
--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
Pinky: I think so, Brain! (Sprays his breath)
Brain: Er... then again, let's not let our enthusiasm
overwhelm us!
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 8:20:53 AM6/12/21
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In article <slrnsc96lq....@m1mini.local>, Lewis
decision they made.
third party browsers could support safari content blockers if they
wanted to. that's another business decision. i don't know of any that
do, but i haven't looked at every browser available (there are many).
some third party browsers include their own content-blocking and don't
need anything extra. at least one has had it for nearly a decade.
tl;dr - doing a search to further a narrative is guaranteed to backfire.
<g.k...@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> > just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
> > mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
> > that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
>
>
> It's only 99% of web use on iOS, can't imagine why they don't bother
> with other browsers.
yep. adguard chose to write a safari content blocker. that's a business
> > just because the ios version of adguard is only for safari does not
> > mean that content blocking outside of safari impossible. it only means
> > that the developers chose to write a safari content blocker.
>
>
> It's only 99% of web use on iOS, can't imagine why they don't bother
> with other browsers.
decision they made.
third party browsers could support safari content blockers if they
wanted to. that's another business decision. i don't know of any that
do, but i haven't looked at every browser available (there are many).
some third party browsers include their own content-blocking and don't
need anything extra. at least one has had it for nearly a decade.
tl;dr - doing a search to further a narrative is guaranteed to backfire.
sms
Jun 12, 2021, 10:59:52 AM6/12/21
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But actually there are several such apps. See
<https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
<https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
require Jailbreaking though there is a workaround on the latter if you
have a Mac.
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 11:49:00 AM6/12/21
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In article <sa2i57$lb0$1...@dont-email.me>, sms
but that doesn't mean all content blockers do.
not only are you trolling but you're incredibly clueless.
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> But actually there are several such apps. See
> <https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
> <https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
> require Jailbreaking though there is a workaround on the latter if you
> have a Mac.
those might require jailbreaking (and also look incredibly sketchy),
>
> But actually there are several such apps. See
> <https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
> <https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
> require Jailbreaking though there is a workaround on the latter if you
> have a Mac.
but that doesn't mean all content blockers do.
not only are you trolling but you're incredibly clueless.
Lewis
Jun 12, 2021, 12:12:39 PM6/12/21
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In message <sa2i57$lb0$1...@dont-email.me> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2021 8:35 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
>> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>>
>> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
>> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
>>
>> If there "numerous content blocking apps" which work on the iPhone,
>> just say which one you know of that works completely on the iPhone.
> Well obviously nospam can't provide this.
Anyone CAN, it is trivial. Chosing not to is not the same as can't.
> On 6/11/2021 8:35 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
>> On 6/11/2021 8:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> as it turns out, there is a lot of demand for content blocking, which
>>> is why there are numerous content blocking options.
>>
>> The blocking must happen on the phone, not on some Internet server.
>> For the very same reasons you outlined with the "dubious VPNs."
>>
>> If there "numerous content blocking apps" which work on the iPhone,
>> just say which one you know of that works completely on the iPhone.
> Well obviously nospam can't provide this.
> But actually there are several such apps. See
> <https://ceadd.ca/blockyoux/> for one.
> <https://igeeksradar.com/mybloxx-ad-blocker-ios/> is another. They both
> require Jailbreaking
troll.
--
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paul
Jun 12, 2021, 1:14:34 PM6/12/21
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Lewis wrote on 12.06.2021 16:12
The adults on this ng will note these incessant claims of imaginary iOS
functionality which apologists can never locate every time they're asked.
*Why do these apologists always fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.
*I suspect JR, Lewis & nospam _hate_ iOS can't do what Android easily does.*
1... On Android, you install as many free mock location apps as you like.
2... In the Android settings you set one as your default mock location app.
Same with ad blockers like AdGuard and FOSS firewalls like NetGuard.
On Android, "it just works" while on iOS "it just doesn't exist."
The apologists _hate_ that iOS is inherently dysfunctional in these tasks.
--
Since I speak facts, here are links to three free apps that do as claimed.
AdGuard - https://github.com/AdguardTeam (the iOS version is braindead)
NetGuard - https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard (no comparable iOS apps exist)
Spoof GPS - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps
> There are many that do not require jailbreaking, you worthless idiot
Name just one.
The adults on this ng will note these incessant claims of imaginary iOS
functionality which apologists can never locate every time they're asked.
*Why do these apologists always fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.
*I suspect JR, Lewis & nospam _hate_ iOS can't do what Android easily does.*
1... On Android, you install as many free mock location apps as you like.
2... In the Android settings you set one as your default mock location app.
Same with ad blockers like AdGuard and FOSS firewalls like NetGuard.
On Android, "it just works" while on iOS "it just doesn't exist."
The apologists _hate_ that iOS is inherently dysfunctional in these tasks.
--
Since I speak facts, here are links to three free apps that do as claimed.
AdGuard - https://github.com/AdguardTeam (the iOS version is braindead)
NetGuard - https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard (no comparable iOS apps exist)
Spoof GPS - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 1:36:23 PM6/12/21
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In article <iik5kt...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> for. Stop pretending you are interested in real solutions, because it's
> very clear you are not. You're just trolling, and everyone here can see
> it.
yep. no matter what anyone suggests, it will somehow be flawed, even if
the flaw is entirely imaginary.
if he really wants an answer, a search will find many options, with
exactly the feature mix he supposedly wants.
<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
> >> that does.
> >
> > Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> > work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
>
> I already gave you one, and you wrongly claimed it isn't what you asked
> >> if adguard doesn't meet your needs, don't use it. find something else
> >> that does.
> >
> > Which existing App Store global content blocker app do you suggest that will
> > work for all apps on the phone, not just only on the one Safari web browser?
>
> for. Stop pretending you are interested in real solutions, because it's
> very clear you are not. You're just trolling, and everyone here can see
> it.
yep. no matter what anyone suggests, it will somehow be flawed, even if
the flaw is entirely imaginary.
if he really wants an answer, a search will find many options, with
exactly the feature mix he supposedly wants.
nospam
Jun 12, 2021, 1:36:24 PM6/12/21
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In article <sa2q1l$ggu$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nos...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>
> I _hate_ that I am inherently dysfunctional
ftfy
wrote:
>
> I _hate_ that I am inherently dysfunctional
ftfy
paul
Jun 12, 2021, 3:17:35 PM6/12/21
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nospam wrote on 12.06.2021 19:36
and Jolly Roger have historically _always_ fabricated completely imaginary
iOS functionality for as long as they have been on this iOS newsgroup.
*Why to they feel so desperate as to fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
Same with onthephone completely free ad blockers like AdGuard.
Same with onthephone completely free FOSS firewalls like NetGuard.
On Android, "it just works" while on iOS "it doesn't exist."
> if he really wants an answer, a search will find many options, with
> exactly the feature mix he supposedly wants.
The (few) adults on this newsgroup will note that people like nospam, Lewis,
> exactly the feature mix he supposedly wants.
and Jolly Roger have historically _always_ fabricated completely imaginary
iOS functionality for as long as they have been on this iOS newsgroup.
*Why to they feel so desperate as to fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.
*I suspect JR, Lewis & nospam _hate_ iOS can't do what Android easily does.*
1... On Android, you install as many free mock location apps as you want.
*I suspect JR, Lewis & nospam _hate_ iOS can't do what Android easily does.*
2... In the Android settings you set one as your default mock location app.
It just works.
Same with onthephone completely free ad blockers like AdGuard.
Same with onthephone completely free FOSS firewalls like NetGuard.
On Android, "it just works" while on iOS "it doesn't exist."
The apologists _hate_ that iOS is inherently dysfunctional in these tasks.
Dropping down to their level, they hate _iOS is a toy_ operating system.
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