Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?

[arlen holder]

Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?

This question is part of a bigger solution for cross-platform
non-Internet password and calendaring on the home LAN.

Googling, I see these are perhaps potential free iOS SMBv2 clients:
o SMB Manager - CIFS Client <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577>
o FE File Explorer: File Manager <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fe-file-explorer-file-manager/id510282524>
o iFiles 2 <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ifiles-2-file-manager-cloud/id1104795347?mt=8>
o File Hub by imoreapps <https://itunes.apple.com/app/file-hub-powerful-intuitive-file-manager/id730843281>
o Stratospherix File Browser <http://www.stratospherix.com/products/filebrowser/>
o GoodReader <http://goodreader.com/index.html>
o Oplayer <http://www.edavs.com/OPlayer.shtml>
o Samba Client (removed from the iOS App Store) <https://appadvice.com/app/samba-client-pc-access-tools/954681556>
o SMB4iOS <https://sourceforge.net/projects/smb4ios/>

Note: VLC & Infuse access SMB shares, but apparently for media files only.
<https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4h94ej/ios_smb_client_recommendations/>

The reason I ask is that I'm setting up a cross platform solution which
should work for Windows 10, Linux, Android, iOS, and Mac.

In order to work with Windows 10 default shares, the iOS app _must_ support
SMBv2/v3, so I will test each client above & report back, where the first
question to ask of the general iOS user base is the following basic
question so that we can find one or more clients that can work well in the
real world with Win10 shares.

Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?

[nospam]

In article <q2blv8$49f$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?

yes

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 06:28:57 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> This question is part of a bigger solution for cross-platform
> non-Internet password and calendaring on the home LAN.

Two tests are being attempted for each SMB client.
1. Windows 10 SMBv1 share access
2. Windows 10 SMBv2/v3 share access

First, we check that Android can easily access the SMB shares as per:
o Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw>

The first app to be tested on iOS is:

o SMB Manager - CIFS Client
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577>

1. Start SMB Manager - CIFS Client
2. Press the top-right "Edit" button
3. Press the "plus" sign for "Add Network Storage"
4. When I press the "Scan Network" button, it won't find SMBv2 shares.
5. So I press the "SMB/CIFS" button instead
6. I enter the following information
Display Name = SMB/CIFS smbv1
Address = 192.168.1.10
Enter username = arlen
Enter password = arlen
7. Press "Done" and then "Done" again
8. It reports "Checking"
9. You have to press the "Close" button
10. Now the share shows up as "SMB/CIFS Smbv1"
11. I saw two shares, one named "print$" & the other named "public"
12. Press on "public" and it says "Failed" with no error message.

To test that the share is working, I accessed it from Windows. It worked.
To test on Android, I brought up AndSMB & it worked.

So, this first test, the easiest test of all, of this tool, failed.
The second test was to try the smbv2 share, which failed even worse.

Steps 1 through 7 were the same other than the machine logged into
8. It reports "Checking"
9. Then it reports "Failed to connect to server"

Again, as a doublecheck, I then tried Windows & Android.
Both worked just fine.

The tentative conclusion is twofold:
1. Clearly "SMB Manager - CIFS Client" does NOT support SMBv2/v3.
2. Worse, it doesn't even connect to known good SMBv1 shares!

So this was a bust.
I'll try the next one in the list.

--
PS: I'm sure nospam will claim everything works - but even if it does -
it's not SMBv2.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 01:38:19 -0500, nospam wrote:

>> Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?
>
> yes

Hi nospam,
I would expect nothing else from you than the response of a child.

Normally it only takes me ten seconds to prove you wrong, nospam.
This time, I have to test the known SMB servers before I figure that out.

So I'll let you know if you're right or wrong, later.
After I complete my simple tests.

HINT: SMBv2/v3 worked beautifully on Android & Windows.

(I already know you'll claim "user error" as you just make everything up.)
Your credibility is worthless nospam - the monkey is right more than you.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 06:59:50 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> The tentative conclusion is twofold:
> 1. Clearly "SMB Manager - CIFS Client" does NOT support SMBv2/v3.
> 2. Worse, it doesn't even connect to known good SMBv1 shares!

Moving on to the second reputed SMB server in the list...

o FE File Explorer: File Manager
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fe-file-explorer-file-manager/id510282524>

1. First, I test Android & Windows on both SMBv1 & SMBv2 shares.
2. Then I start FE File Explorer on iOS
3. I press the + button in the top left (to the right of "File Explorer")
4. A "New Connection" form comes up
5. I press the "Windows" icon
6. I fill out the "New Connection" form
Display name = smbv1
Host Name/IP = 192.168.1.10
DNS Domain = blank
Path = blank
Port = 445
Show Hidden Files = off
Show Admin Shares = off
Support DFS = off
Connect as User Name = arlen
Password = arlen
7. I hit "Save"
8. The "Smbv1" button shows up under "Connections" at bottom left
9. I press the "Smbv1" button & the "public" share shows up on the right
10. I press the "public" button, and the share contents show up perfectly

I then attempt to repeat the test with the smbv2 share.
The error is "Upgrade to Pro Version"
"The Pro version can access more than one computer or NAS, manage files
on network shares, and play more movie formats (AVI, MKV, XVID, etc)."

OK. No big deal.
I delete the "Smbv1" share and enter the information for the SMBv2 share.

There is no error but the spinning wheel spins for a minute or two
and then it errors out with:"Error"
"Connection failed with the error: Connection timeout"

It appears that the iOS "FE File Explorer: File Manager" beautifully
supports SMBv1 shares, but that it doesn't support SMBv2 shares.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:27:49 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> It appears that the iOS "FE File Explorer: File Manager" beautifully
> supports SMBv1 shares, but that it doesn't support SMBv2 shares.

Moving on to the third reputed iOS SMB client in the list,

o iFiles 2
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ifiles-2-file-manager-cloud/id1104795347?mt=8>

It's a $7 app so it doesn't fit the problem set.

Moving on to the fourth reputed iOS SMB client in the list,

o File Hub by imoreapps
<https://itunes.apple.com/app/file-hub-powerful-intuitive-file-manager/id730843281>

1. I open the File Hub (by imoreapps) first
2. At top left is a button called "Cloud Files" which I click
3. A "Cloud Files" section opens with a "+" button, which I click
4. An "Add Server" selection opens with "Windows SMB" which I click
5. A "Go Premium" form pops up asking for $5
Below that is a dead button for "Accessing Samba/NAS Server".

So that's two more SMBv2/v3 failures on iOS.
o iFiles 2 = FAIL
o File Hub by imoreapps = FAIL

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 07:48:00 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> So that's two more SMBv2/v3 failures on iOS.
> o iFiles 2 = FAIL
> o File Hub by imoreapps = FAIL

Moving on to the fifth reputed iOS SMB client on the list...

o Stratospherix File Browser
<http://www.stratospherix.com/products/filebrowser/>

The web page clearly says "Premium Feature"
"FileBrowserGO supports SMB3, allowing you to connect to encrypted file
shares on Windows 10. We haven't found another app that provides this level
of security. SMB3 support only available in FileBrowserGO"

Hmmm... it doesn't say anything about SMBv1 or v2, so let's move forward.

Looking up "FileBrowserGO" on the iTunes App Store, I find:
o FileBrowserGO <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filebrowsergo/id335493278>

1. I open the FileBrowserGo app
2. At left I press the "+" button (to the right of "FileBrowserGO")
3. A "Connect to?" form comes up with "Computer/Network Drive"
3. Pressing that, it asks "Which type?" where I press "PC"
4. It says "Scanning now" for a while
5. After at least a minute or two, it found the SMBv1 share PC
6. I clicked on that PC name that it found
7. I entered the Username and password for that network share
8. FileBrowserGO easily opened up that SMBv1 network share

Since FileBrowserGo didn't find the second PC, this time I pressed
"Manual Setup" after pressing the "+" button in step 2 above.
3. A "New Machine" form came up asking
"Select PC, Mac, Time Capsue, NAS Drive, or cloud storage"
4. I selected "PC" and then filled in the "New Machine" form
Address = 192.168.1.10

User Name = arlen
Password = arlen

5. I then hit "Save"
6. That added the second connection to the "Remote" section at left
7. Clicking the 192.168.1.10 button in that "Remote" section errors with
"Connect failed: Failed to connect. tap the red "i" for more information".
8. When I tap the red "i", it says:
"A connection cannot be made, possibly because there is no network
connectivity. Check that a WiFi or 3G connection is available?"

To doublecheck the iPad is connected, I tap the SMBv1 connection,
and it works, so we KNOW there is WiFi connectivity for the iPad.

To doublecheck the SMBv2 share is active, I connect via Android
AndSMB client with no problems.

My tentative conclusion is the following for the free FileBrowserGo app
o The SMBv3 connectivity is clearly a "premium" feature
o The SMBv1 connects beautifully
o Since SMBv2 fails, we can assume that it's part of the "premium feature"

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 08:20:57 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> My tentative conclusion is the following for the free FileBrowserGo app
> o The SMBv3 connectivity is clearly a "premium" feature
> o The SMBv1 connects beautifully
> o Since SMBv2 fails, we can assume that it's part of the "premium feature"

Moving on to the sixth reputed SMB client for iOS,
o GoodReader <http://goodreader.com/index.html>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goodreader/id777310222>

The GoodReader app is $5 so it fails instantly, so we move on
to the seventh reputed free SMB client for iOS
o Oplayer <http://www.edavs.com/OPlayer.shtml>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oplayer-video-player/id344784375>

That's a $3 video player where I see there's a "lite" version at
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oplayer-lite-media-player/id385907472>

The marketing mentions "Samba" but not the SMB version.
"Play all your videos directly without having to convert them! OPlayer
supports almost every format for video/audio playback. It gives you the
flexibility to be able to download your files to your device, or browse a
SAMBA/FTP/UPnP/DLNA share over the network."

1. I start the "OPlayerHD Lite" app (notice the name change)
2. I click the "Network" button
3. I click the "+" sign on the top to the right of "File Servers" & to the left of "Network"
4. An "Add Server" form pops up with an option for "Windows/Mac Share (Samba)"
5. An "Add Windows Share" form pops up with fields for
Host = 192.168.1.10
Port = 139 (this is grayed out so you can't change it)
Username = arlen
Password = arlen
Title = smbv1
6. I hit "Save" in that "Add Windows Share"
7. This adds an "smbv1" item to the bottom of the "Remote" list at right
8. I click that button and all my SMBv1 shares show up
9. I click on the SMBv1 "public" share and its files show up beautifully.

What's interesting is that this is a VIDEO player, and yet, it seems to
connect to SMBv1 shares quite nicely (of course, we have to get the files
OUT of the video player's private space - but that comes later).

Trying that again but for the SMBv2 shares, there is no error message,
but no shares show up either. The screen just says "Receiving".

I doublecheck using the AndSMB client on Android, and it works fine.

The tentative conclusion is that
o "OPlayerHD Lite" connects nicely to SMBv1 shares
o "OPlayerHD Lite" does not connect to SMBv2 shares

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 09:02:17 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> The tentative conclusion is that
> o "OPlayerHD Lite" connects nicely to SMBv1 shares
> o "OPlayerHD Lite" does not connect to SMBv2 shares

Moving on to the eighth item in the list

o Samba Client (removed from the iOS App Store)
<https://appadvice.com/app/samba-client-pc-access-tools/954681556>

The web page says of "Samba Client - PC access tools by Wang Lijun"
"Samba Client is a iOS based system equipment of the SMB client
software,It can easily access the contents of shared folders on remote
computers (Windows, Mac OS, etc" [sic]

But it is apparently "removed from the app store" so that's a bust.

The ninth app is also apparently not on the app store.
o SMB4iOS <https://sourceforge.net/projects/smb4ios/>

I'm going to post a little secret, here and now, obfuscated a wee bit:
o LD-SS-C-131-404

[nospam]

In article <q2bo7q$7qn$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> After I complete my simple tests.

your 'tests' are anything but simple.

> HINT: SMBv2/v3 worked beautifully on Android & Windows.

smb works great on ios, and unlike android, does not require
root/jailbreak for smb *server* functionality. client is easy on all
platforms.

also, smb is the wrong solution to your problem.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 10:04:04 -0500, nospam wrote:

>> After I complete my simple tests.
>
> your 'tests' are anything but simple.

Hi nospam,

It's so easy to prove you wrong so often that it's not even a challenge.

The reason is twofold, I believe:
o Your entire belief system is imaginary (facts don't exist), and,
o You just guess on everything (which is why you're almost always wrong).

If finding an iOS SMB client is so simple, why haven't you found one that
o Is free & not crippleware (e.g., speed crippled or SMB version crippled)
o And it works with default Windows shares (i.e., SMBv2 and/or SMBv3)

You said it exists.
Why can't you name the one you _say_ exists?

HINT: You just made it up; like you make everything up.
Your credibility, nospam, is worse than that of the monkey.

Meanwhile, you've _never_ found my facts ever to be wrong(1).

NOTE 1: Since I'm human, out of thousands upon thousands of facts, I must
have made a mistake at least once - but it's so rare that even you can't
find those factual mistakes I've made in claims to you.

Hence, nospam, _my credibility_ is stellar.
Yours, sadly, is worthless.

That's a fact.

>
>> HINT: SMBv2/v3 worked beautifully on Android & Windows.
>
> smb works great on ios, and unlike android, does not require
> root/jailbreak for smb *server* functionality. client is easy on all
> platforms

Hi nospam,
If an SMBv2 client is so easy, then why can't you name one that isn't
o Crippleware, or payware on iOS

I've tested 10 reputed free iOS SMB clients so far (note, I only published
9 test results), where )none_ are what is so easy to find on Android,
Linux, Windows (and likely Mac), which is freeware.

You say a free non-crippled SMBv2 iOS SMB client exists, nospam.
*And yet, as always, it's an "imaginary functionality" that you claim.*

All you can do, nospam, is claim "imaginary iOS functionality".
If, as you claim, it's "easy" to find a non-crippled free iOS SMBv2 client,
then why can't you name a _single_ one, nospam?

HINT: So far, I haven't found even one that isn't crippleware or payware.

NOTE: I've tested 10, one of which is crippleware, which may have to do.

[nospam]

In article <q2d7q1$orr$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> If an SMBv2 client is so easy, then why can't you name one that isn't
> o Crippleware, or payware on iOS

because i have zero interest in helping you, especially since you have
no idea what you're doing.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:09:42 -0500, nospam wrote:

> because i have zero interest in helping you, especially since you have
> no idea what you're doing.

Hehhehheh....

Your entire belief system, nospam, is completely imaginary!
1. You simply make up everything you say.
2. Hence, you can't back up your claim.

In much the same way as Diesel and Snit did, you _claim_
knowledge that you simply don't have.

*All you _can_ do, is claim _imaginary* iOS functionality.*
Again.

The fact appears to be that there are free SMBv2 clients on _all_ other
platforms _other_ than on the iOS platform (as far as anyone here can
tell).

You can _claim_ your imaginary iOS functionality all you want, nospam.
But until you provide a reference to your claims, you just make it up.

I've tested 10 (only reporting on 9), because I know far more (now) than
you will ever know - and the proof is that you can't even come up with the
one that I found which, albeit crippleware, will have to suffice.

*You prove you know _less_ than I do about iOS SMBv2 clients, nospam!*
That, is what's so amusing - since I make no such brazen claims as you do.

It's actually amazing how incredibly _ignorant_ you are, nospam.
Even I know far more than you do - and I prove it in this very thread.

HINT: You don't even know the one iOS client I found that (barely) works
(albeit, it's crippleware).

[joe]

On 1/24/2019 3:28 PM, arlen holder wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:09:42 -0500, nospam wrote:
>
>> because i have zero interest in helping you, especially since you have
>> no idea what you're doing.
>

I can understand that position. He's trying to accomplish tasks in a
rather convoluted manner, ignoring input from others that would make his
life much easier. He must not put any value on the time he is wasting.

<snip>

>
> *All you _can_ do, is claim _imaginary* iOS functionality.*
> Again.
>
> The fact appears to be that there are free SMBv2 clients on _all_ other
> platforms _other_ than on the iOS platform (as far as anyone here can
> tell).
>

Well, I'm using a free smbv2 client and can access a Windows share just
fine. Yes, smbv1 is turned off on the Windows machine.

> You can _claim_ your imaginary iOS functionality all you want, nospam.
> But until you provide a reference to your claims, you just make it up.

You call it imaginary, but it works fine here.

>
> I've tested 10 (only reporting on 9), because I know far more (now) than
> you will ever know - and the proof is that you can't even come up with the
> one that I found which, albeit crippleware, will have to suffice.

Newsflash: I'm using one of the ones you tested.

>
> *You prove you know _less_ than I do about iOS SMBv2 clients, nospam!*
> That, is what's so amusing - since I make no such brazen claims as you do.

Apparently, you can't figure out how to use the tools you have. You say
something doesn't work when, if properly configured, it works fine.

[Jolly Roger]

The fact that the dip shit is resorting to file sharing for calendar
synchronization when much better methods are readily available says it all.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[Jolly Roger]

That’s standard operating procedure for this particular numb nut troll. He
is his own worst enemy.

[nospam]

In article <gb0nr6...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger

<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> >
> >> If an SMBv2 client is so easy, then why can't you name one that isn't
> >> o Crippleware, or payware on iOS
> >
> > because i have zero interest in helping you, especially since you have
> > no idea what you're doing.
>
> The fact that the dip shit is resorting to file sharing for calendar
> synchronization when much better methods are readily available says it all.

this is a new task. he's trying to set up his own password manager
syncing by manually copying the master database across multiple
platforms.

obviously he needs to do that because no existing product does that
automatically. oh wait...

[joe]

Once he accomplishes the task he'll write a tutorial about something he
could do that nobody knew about. Oh, and it will be simple.

[Jolly Roger]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <gb0nr6...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> If an SMBv2 client is so easy, then why can't you name one that isn't
>>>> o Crippleware, or payware on iOS
>>>
>>> because i have zero interest in helping you, especially since you have
>>> no idea what you're doing.
>>
>> The fact that the dip shit is resorting to file sharing for calendar
>> synchronization when much better methods are readily available says it all.
>
> this is a new task. he's trying to set up his own password manager
> syncing by manually copying the master database across multiple
> platforms.

Another case where much better methods are readily available. I think I see
a trend... Hmmm... 🤔

> obviously he needs to do that because no existing product does that
> automatically. oh wait...

: D

[Jolly Roger]

And it won’t work well, if at all, on Apple’s platforms. *

We can predict the FUTURE!

* And of course it won’t work nearly as well on *any* platform as existing
readily available solutions already do.

[arlen holder]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 10:50:53 -0500, nospam wrote:

> this is a new task. he's trying to set up his own password manager
> syncing by manually copying the master database across multiple
> platforms.
>
> obviously he needs to do that because no existing product does that
> automatically. oh wait...

Hi nospam,

Your credibility is shit, nospam.
It takes ten seconds to prove you wrong almost all the time.

That's why I've always said you do worse than the monkey on fact.

Is this yet another one of your imaginary solutions, nospam?
You know, the ones you claim, but _never_ come up with a cite for?

*Name one, nospam.*

Name just one.
What's that?

You made it all up?
Again?

*That! Is why you're the epitome of the left-side Dunning-Kruger effect!*
<https://graphpaperdiaries.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/humorgraph.png>

[arlen holder]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:05:17 -0600, joe wrote:

> Newsflash: I'm using one of the ones you tested.

Hi "joe",

Let's see how much you _actually_ comprehend of the general solution:
<https://realizebeauty.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/dunning-kruger-effect-agile-coffee-web.jpg>

Simply name that app that fits the stated problem set, of
o It's a free uncrippled non-jb app currently available on the app store
o That (as free) connects to Windows 10 default (SMBv2/SMBv3) shares

Simple test for you "joe".
o Very simple test
o Let's see if you FAIL this simple test, joe, shall we?

TEST QUESTION:
o Name the app

HINT: If you fail that test - it proves exactly where you fit on the graph:
<https://understandinginnovation.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/dunning-kruger-0011.jpg>

[arlen holder]

On 25 Jan 2019 16:05:09 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Another case where much better methods are readily available.

Hi Jolly Roger,
When you say idiotic things like that, I used to think you were just stupid.
<https://understandinginnovation.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/dunning-kruger-0011.jpg>

You (plural) consistently say stupid things, with such firm confidence!
<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM0WbFtWsAASaCk.png>

My epiphany is that you, Jolly Roger, are the epitome of the DK far left.
<https://realizebeauty.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/dunning-kruger-effect-agile-coffee-web.jpg>
o You actually _believe_ that you both comprehend the problem set.
o And, you actually _believe_ your claim of an existing solution.
<https://i0.wp.com/respectfulinsolence.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/dunning-kruger-effect.png>

I used to think you, and people like you, were either just
a. Unfathomably stupid, or,
b. Just pulling our leg

But I have come to realize it's worse - far worse - sadly to say:
c. *You actually _believe_ you comprehend the problem & have a solution!*

(And yet, as with the others I've named - that solution _never_ shows up!)
<https://i.redd.it/8s8ztqj2v6k11.jpg>

Because it _never_ exists!
o And yet, you _think_ it does!
<http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/dunning-kruger-graph.jpg>

I finally _understand_ how your brain works, Jolly Roger.
o That! Is my epiphany
o <https://i.stack.imgur.com/pwoch.jpg>

[joe]

On 1/25/2019 1:37 PM, arlen holder wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:05:17 -0600, joe wrote:
>
>> Newsflash: I'm using one of the ones you tested.
>
> Hi "joe",
>
> Let's see how much you _actually_ comprehend of the general solution:
> <https://realizebeauty.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/dunning-kruger-effect-agile-coffee-web.jpg>

Just how does DK relate to an SMBv2 client?

>
> Simply name that app that fits the stated problem set, of
> o It's a free uncrippled non-jb app currently available on the app store
> o That (as free) connects to Windows 10 default (SMBv2/SMBv3) shares
>
> Simple test for you "joe".
> o Very simple test
> o Let's see if you FAIL this simple test, joe, shall we?
>
> TEST QUESTION:
> o Name the app

That looks like a command rather than a question.

Since you've already called me "incredibly stupid" and have "the mind of
a child", why should I make things easy for you?

>
> HINT: If you fail that test - it proves exactly where you fit on the graph:
> <https://understandinginnovation.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/dunning-kruger-0011.jpg>
>

You would like an answer, but can only insult. That is not an approach
that will get you anywhere.

[arlen holder]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:07:03 -0600, joe wrote:

> You would like an answer, but can only insult. That is not an approach
> that will get you anywhere.

Hehhehheh....

*You can't even name one.*
HINT: I know more than you do - which is about as sad as this gets.

You Apologists _never_ come up with the goods!
o *Your entire belief system proves to be _completely_ imaginary!*
<https://i.redd.it/8s8ztqj2v6k11.jpg>

I used to think it's just because you're incredibly stupid.
Or, that you were incessantly playing childish silly games.
But now I realize you actually believe in your imaginary facts!

*Just like the lemon-juice bank robber did!*

All you left-side-of-mount-stupid Dunning-Kruger poster children
are _exactly_ the same - which you _prove_ for me every single time!
<https://graphpaperdiaries.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/dunning-kruger-chart.jpg>

I don't have to prove you're all pegged at the left side of the DK scale!
o You prove it for me!
<https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1m78dz-Eamo/WS9_rqu7ifI/AAAAAAAAEY0/4OWYfWVWrwAvhsexPVJQLEHmCnxwi9L_QCLcB/s1600/mt-stupid.png>

o It's not that you're incredibly stupid (you are, but it's far worse);
o And, it's not even that you're incessantly pulling our leg;
o No. You _really_ do believe in a completely imaginary belief system!
<https://graphpaperdiaries.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/humorgraph.png>

Diesel & nospam & Jolly Roger all do the same thing as you, "joe".
o None of you DK poster children can ever come up with the goods.
<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM0WbFtWsAASaCk.png>

You proved for me that you're on the left side of mount stupid:
<https://realizebeauty.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/dunning-kruger-effect-agile-coffee-web.jpg>

All of you prove to own the _imaginary_ belief systems of a mere child!
<https://i0.wp.com/respectfulinsolence.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/dunning-kruger-effect.png>

PS: It's sad that you have absolutely no comprehension of what I just said.

[Johan]

Op 25-jan.-19 om 17:05 schreef Jolly Roger:

> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <gb0nr6...@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> If an SMBv2 client is so easy, then why can't you name one that isn't
>>>>> o Crippleware, or payware on iOS
>>>>
>>>> because i have zero interest in helping you, especially since you have
>>>> no idea what you're doing.
>>>
>>> The fact that the dip shit is resorting to file sharing for calendar
>>> synchronization when much better methods are readily available says it all.
>>
>> this is a new task. he's trying to set up his own password manager
>> syncing by manually copying the master database across multiple
>> platforms.
>
> Another case where much better methods are readily available. I think I see
> a trend... Hmmm... 🤔
>
>> obviously he needs to do that because no existing product does that
>> automatically. oh wait...
>
> : D
>

the psychiatrists in a mental institution must prohibit patients (like
Holder) using the internet.

[arlen holder]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:40:53 +0100, Johan wrote:

> the psychiatrists in a mental institution must prohibit patients (like
> Holder) using the internet.

Hi Johan,

You prove to be of at least fifth grade mentality from what you wrote.
Hence, we will simply ask you a technical on-topic question, shall we?

It's a simple question, Johan, so you _should_ comprehend it, do you not?

The simple question is:
Q: *Do you know of a free iOS SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?* (non-crippled)

Do you?

[Jolly Roger]

If only. Unfortunately the United States government has a long history of
neglecting and imprisoning the mentally ill in this country rather than
properly supporting and treating them. So people like “Arlen” are left to
their own devices, and the rest of us just have to deal with them. Many end
up homeless on the crime-ridden streets; but some are much more fortunate.
Many, like “Arlen” here, become “professional” trolls, spending hours upon
hours, day after day, making life miserable for others in any way they can,
either online or in person, as the only viable outlet for their mental
illness. It’s a shame, but that’s the way of the world we’ve created, I’m
afraid.

[Elden]

On 2019-01-27, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> illness. It???s a shame, but that???s the way of the world we???ve created, I???m

JR, I have a problem with my encoding. In that sentence above, I see
four instances of triple question marks. Looks like those are probably
smart quotes. I use SLRN. Any ideas how I can fix this?

--
-=Elden=-

[Elden]

On 2019-01-27, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> Interesting... Yes, they are smart quotes.
>
> See if you have these in your .slrnrc file:
>
> charset display "utf-8" charset outgoing "utf-8"

I tried that. Oddly... no matter what I do, it's wrong in puTTY. But it
looks fine in Prompt (although Prompt has it's own problems). My puTTY
is set for UTF-8. With those lines above, instead of showing as three
question marks, the smart quotes show as an odd character and two
question marks.

I'm pretty sure I also saw three question marks using macOS Terminal as
well.

--
-=Elden=-

[arlen holder]

UPDATE:

The fact remains, not a _single_ iOS poster to date on this thread
knows of even a _single_ non-crippleware free SMBv2 client.

Despite their wholly imaginary belief system, that fact remains clear:
o You Dunning-Kruger poster children 'chit-chat' amongst yourselves.

And yet, not a _single_ one of you Apologists passed a simple 3-word test:
o *Name just one*

[John McWilliams]

So.

[joe]

On 1/27/2019 4:08 PM, arlen holder wrote:
> UPDATE:
>
> The fact remains, not a _single_ iOS poster to date on this thread
> knows of even a _single_ non-crippleware free SMBv2 client.

A lie. You have no understanding of what posters know or do not know.
This is just made up conjecture on your part.

What you might assume is that no poster here wants to help you after the
abuse you dish out.

Example follows:

[arlen holder]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:05:15 -0600, joe wrote:

> A lie. You have no understanding of what posters know or do not know.
> This is just made up conjecture on your part.
>
> What you might assume is that no poster here wants to help you after the
> abuse you dish out.

Hi joe,

My belief system is based on facts.
o One has to love your tenacity in adhering to an imaginary belief system.

Diesel and Snit and Jolly Roger & nospam have the _same_ belief system.
o None of you comprehend that there are these funny things, called "facts"

Remember, the lemon-juice bank robber adhered to his.
o And his lemon-juice belief system had as much validity as does yours.

No amount of lemon-juice chemistry will sway you, joe, from believing.
o And yet, the facts _always_ belie your belief system.

Facts are funny that way.

[John McWilliams]

Very

[John McWilliams]

On 1/27/19 PDT 5:04 PM, arlen holder wrote:

Too many NG's listed. FU set.

[arlen holder]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 09:30:59 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> I'm going to post a little secret, here and now, obfuscated a wee bit:
> o LD-SS-C-131-404

UPDATE:
The reason I held back on the "little secret" was I was testing the
Apologists, who, _always_ fail the simple three-word fact test:
o Name Just One

Since they can't "name just one", I'll name the _best_ there is on iOS.
Unless new, facts arise, yet again, iOS apps prove to be anachronistic.

I guess I should have expected iOS to fail even the simplest of tests.
But I was hoping (beyond hope?) that someone here knew more than I did.
o I never claim to be even average on iOS knowledge overall,
o And yet, it seems that I know far more than any of you apparently do

That's sad that _clearly_ know far more than the Apologists do!
Really sad.

*It doesn't mean I know a lot; it means Apologists know absolutely nothing!*

Alas, the _best_ anyone can offer, apparently, is speed-limited crippleware:

Searching for a tenth SMB app to test, I found this:
o LAN drive SAMBA Server Client
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server/id1317727404>

The advertising says
"LAN Drive is a powerful and easy SMB server - also known as SAMBA server"
"TRIAL version : *Limited bandwith to 0.5 MB/s*"
o This app has the most obnoxious ads of all the related apps tested
o Later on in the app itself, it tells us to buy the faster speeds for $4

The good news is that version 5.2, released on 1/19/2019 (only a few days
ago) "says" they added support for SMBv2.

Doublechecking the version number in Settings > General > iPad Storage
the version comes up as "LAN drive, Version 5.3, Webrox".

1. I start the app and press the "SMB Client" button on the bottom.
2. I press the "+" sign which brings up a form containing fields for
Device Name or IP address = 192.168.1.10
User name = arlen
Password = arlen
TCP Port = 445
Netbios UDB Port = 137
3. I press "Save"
4. I press on the newly created line for that machine
5. Up shows all the SMBv1 shares
6. I press on the "public" share, and its files show up beautifully.
(A blinking line keeps saying: "Trial version: Slow speed at 0.5MB/s"
("Buy the app to transfer 100x faster.")

Doublechecking with the Android phone, it connects to SMBv2 shares.

In summary, since we're always seeking a general solution which works
instantly for everyone around the world, this is the _best_ solution so
far that doesn't involve putting your personal files on the Internet.

Sure, it's crippleware - but - it's the only iOS solution (so far) that is
known to work.

If you know of a free non-crippleware iOS SMBv2 client, let us know.
o Name just one