Re: How do you run speech to text transcription offline on iOS?

[Arlen Holder]

On 9 Jan 2020 23:47:53 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2020-01-07, Alan Baker <nu...@ness.biz> wrote:
>> On 2020-01-07 11:00 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 23:37:01 -0800, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>>> HINT: On Android, it just works.
>>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but your credibility is shot.
>>>
>>> *I would like to publicly apologize to Alan Baker.* o Alan found what
>>> nobody else here apparently did (of who read the thread).
>>>
>>> Which is that, as of iOS 13.2, there _is_ the privacy we seek for
>>> _offline_ transcription of recordings to a text file (& then shared
>>> with any app, e.g., SMS, email, or a text file, whatever).
>>>
>>> I had searched the iTunes app store from my iOS 11.x $300 Costco WiFi
>>> iPad.
>>
>> If you're implying that you didn't see it because of your version of
>> iOS, you're a liar.
>>
>> I've got an even older iPad that is still running iOS 9...
>>
>> ...and it shows up fine, Liar.
>
> If he knew anything at all, he'd know offline dictation has been built
> into iOS since iOS 9 - no app required:
>
> <https://jmp.sh/hssd7Bf>
>
>>> I had asked on this newsgroup on 12/27 whether the functionality
>>> exists. I had waited 10 days for an iOS experts' answer (including
>>> David Empson).
>>
>> Even if true, you don't get to present as fact that:
>>
>> 'The answer is, on iOS, you don't.'
>
> Not surprising. He's a know-nothing dip shit troll.
>
>>> After 10 days, I incorrectly concluded the functionality does not
>>> exist.
>
> LOL!!! The "Great Arlen Holder", everyone! : D

Clearly Jolly Roger tried to bullshit us; but that's not the point of this post.
o *This post is made to explain the underlying nature of Apple Apologists*.

I _love_ when Jolly Roger posts because he's the canonical Apple apologist!
o All I need to do is point to EXACTLY what Jolly Roger posts, for proof!

*There's good reason apologists gravitate to marketing of imaginary functionality.*
o *Jolly Roger exemplifies apologists' immunity to facts quite well in his post*

Like most Apple apologists...
a. He always proves to be utterly _immune_ to facts.
b. When confronted with facts he doesn't like, he brazenly denies them;
c. When confronted with his brazen denials, he turns into instant child;
d. That child is filled to the brim with fifth-grade vitriolic hatred.

Yet again, in the post I'm responding to, the canonical Apologist Jolly
Roger tried to bullshit the adults, where proof of his bullshit is here:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ZfT4EkYIidE/-ZLkBO7VDgAJ>

Specifically these two screenshots I just took from my own iOS 11.2.6 iPad:
<https://i.postimg.cc/pXrh2gyP/dictation01.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/Sxzn9CW5/dictation02.jpg>

Given Jolly Roger is the canonical Apple Apologist, those of us who are
wise should take this post from Jolly Roger as a perfect example of what an
Apple Apologist truly is.

--
There's good _reason_ apologists gravitate to marketing of imaginary functionality.
o Jolly Roger exemplifies that immunity to facts quite well in his post

[Arlen Holder]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 04:23:54 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> Given Jolly Roger is the canonical Apple Apologist, those of us who are
> wise should take this post from Jolly Roger as a perfect example of what an
> Apple Apologist truly is.

Why do the Apple Apologists always try to bullshit us?
o Apple apologists' brains are tuned to be utterly immune to factual logic.

Why?
I don't know why.
o Maybe they actually believe their own imaginary functionality?
o Or, maybe they just can't stand the fact that iOS is primitive.

I don't know why Jolly Roger tried to bullshit us just now.
o All I know is that he did (and that he always does).

It doesn't seem the apologists are used to working with _adults_ who
actually read the cites and check the facts that are claimed.

It seems apologists are always immune to facts, in fact, in that they spout
that which even they can't support with facts.

Since the apologists only have 7 responses to fact (none of them adult),
it's a dead giveaway whenever they pull the stunt of posting an
unidentified image off the net sans cites.

Almost always (if not always), when they pull that stunt, it's because it's
a feature that used to exist, or momentarily existed, and no longer does.

Case in post, I checked another of my iPads today in addition to my iOS
11.2.6, which is an iOS 12.4.4 iPad (the grandkids have my third iPad), and
it also says exactly what the iOS 11.2.6 iPad says:
"Enable Dictation? Dictation sends information like your voice input,
contacts, and location to Apple to process your requests."
<https://i.postimg.cc/pXrh2gyP/dictation01.jpg>
o How do you run speech to text transcription offline on iOS?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/V-piSLZ_I3w>

Hence, there are only two possible conclusions about the apologists:
a. Either apologists have absolutely no comprehension of iOS features, or,
b. Apologists are just bullshitting us all the time, all day, every day.
(Pick one.)

Why?
I don't know why.

I suspect Apologists simply _hate_ facts such that they deny them just
because they don't like them.

Maybe apologists are tuned to bullshit, such that they themselves don't
even know how to distinguish between utter bullshit and adult facts?

*Whatever the reason, the apologists, yet again, tried to bullshit us!*

The Apologists brazenly deny facts without even _comprehending_ those
facts, where, even if the offline dictation actually existed in the listed
iOS releases, that feature still does _not_ save the dictation to an audio
file along with the text transcription of that audio file.

To his credit, surprisingly, Alan Baker immediately admonished Jolly Roger
in this post that Jolly Roger's argument was worthless for that purpose:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/ZfT4EkYIidE/Sbz0W4PJDgAJ>
"To be fair to Liar, the clueless dipshit troll (LTCDT?), he has been
talking about the transcription of previously recorded audio, and
while I've no doubt that the offline capabilities that work while
doing direct dictation could be used with audio files, I don't think
there's actually an interface that would allow you to do it."

Notice that even Alan Baker, of all people, knew Jolly Roger's bullshit.

And yet, Jolly Roger persisted in repeatedly claiming utter bullshit
imaginary functionality which he "claims" exists on iOS, but which I can
instantly prove, as is always the case since I own plenty of iOS devices,
that the apologists are merely bullshitting us, again (and again).

There is good news to this bullshit though... since apologists only have 7
basic responses to facts that they simply hate.
o What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/veU8FwAjBQAJ>

I think this event is instructive to help us UNDERSTAND the apologists'
behavior, which is that their brains appear to gravitate to wholly
imaginary completely unproven non existing imaginary functionality.
--
Apple Marketing is brilliant at advertising wholly imaginary functionality!
Apple apologists' brains are tuned to be utterly immune to factual logic.

[Arlen Holder]

On 10 Jan 2020 20:16:27 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> LOL! Dip shit "Arlen" can't put 2 and 2 together.

I try to faithfully understand why apologists are not like normal people.

Hence...
*I absolutely and truly _love_ when Jolly Roger posts to Apple newsgroups.*

Unfortunately, lately, Jolly Roger has been avoiding responding to my posts
because it's simply trivial to destroy his claims, which I do, with facts.

*But that's EXACTLY why I _love_ when this quintessential apologist posts!*

We get to see DIRECTLY what's inside the mind of the canonical apologist!
o To wit, see his post below and savor the wonderful insight he provides.

> From: Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android
> Subject: Re: How do you run speech to text transcription offline on iOS?
> Date: 10 Jan 2020 20:16:27 GMT
> Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
> Message-ID: <h7s4cr...@mid.individual.net>
> X-No-Archive: Yes
> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin)

>
> On 2020-01-10, Arlen Holder <arlen.geo...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 04:23:54 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
>>
>> I checked another of my iPads today in addition to my iOS
>> 11.2.6, which is an iOS 12.4.4 iPad (the grandkids have my third iPad), and
>> it also says exactly what the iOS 11.2.6 iPad says:
>> "Enable Dictation? Dictation sends information like your voice input,
>> contacts, and location to Apple to process your requests."
>

> LOL! Dip shit "Arlen" can't put 2 and 2 together. : D His limited
> intellect doesn't allow him to do the very basic research needed to
> understand that the Offline Dictation feature was announced with the
> release of iOS 9 in *2015* only for devices released in that year that
> met the hardware requirements for real-time voice processing. Due to his
> hopelessly ever-present anti-Apple bias, he simply cannot make the
> mental connections needed to understand that while his much older iPads
> may be able to run newer versions of iOS than shipped with them, they
> don't have the processing power needed to do offline dictation. Instead,
> his lame-brain ignorant knee-jerk reaction is to assume he's "being
> bullshitted by apologists". Ż\_(?)_/Ż

>
>> Why?
>> I don't know why.
>

> We know, "Arlen". We know!
>
> Poor old fart "Arnie"! The world is such a confusing place for him!
>
> The "Great Arlen Holder", everyone! Witness his blinding intellect!! : D
>
> --
> E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>
> JR

[Arlen Holder]

On 11 Jan 2020 02:24:43 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> ...but he just can't. Pity. Ho hum... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

SOLVED!

The factual summary appears to be:
a. The iOS offline dictation is worthless for the stated task;
b. Even so, it's on and off depending on the specific iOS version;
c. Yet, the good news is that, as of iOS 13.2, the problem is solved.

This is the solution to the stated problem set of recording audio files and
transcribing those audio files, where, on my Android phone, I tested the
free app which worked fine.
o New Dictation app brings advanced offline transcription capabilities to iPhone and iPad
<https://9to5mac.com/2019/11/07/new-dictation-app-brings-advanced-offline-transcription-capabilities-to-iphone-and-ipad/>

Many thanks to Alan Baker for not only realizing the goal was to obtain
both the audio recording and a discrete text file transcription for sharing
and for searching, but also for finding a brand new app that nobody else
(who posted) appears to have known about prior.
o Dictation, Transcribe & Edit Privately, by Blueshift Development
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dictation-by-blueshift/id1474180179>
--
Sadly, what's free on Android, in this case, costs seven dollars on iOS.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-01-10 7:26 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2020 02:24:43 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>

>> ...but he just can't. Pity. Ho hum... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>
> SOLVED!
>
> The factual summary appears to be:
> a. The iOS offline dictation is worthless for the stated task;
> b. Even so, it's on and off depending on the specific iOS version;
> c. Yet, the good news is that, as of iOS 13.2, the problem is solved.

So when you called it "imaginary"...

...you were either lying or making a mistake regarding a material fact;
something you insist you never do.

>
> This is the solution to the stated problem set of recording audio files and
> transcribing those audio files, where, on my Android phone, I tested the
> free app which worked fine.
> o New Dictation app brings advanced offline transcription capabilities to iPhone and iPad
> <https://9to5mac.com/2019/11/07/new-dictation-app-brings-advanced-offline-transcription-capabilities-to-iphone-and-ipad/>



>
> Many thanks to Alan Baker for not only realizing the goal was to obtain
> both the audio recording and a discrete text file transcription for sharing
> and for searching, but also for finding a brand new app that nobody else
> (who posted) appears to have known about prior.
> o Dictation, Transcribe & Edit Privately, by Blueshift Development
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dictation-by-blueshift/id1474180179>

And brickbats to you for making a mistake in material fact when you
claimed it couldn't be done; even claiming that you'd searched the App
Store for it...

...Liar.