What free 0-advertisement phone/sms-mms/contact integrated app do you use?

[Harold Newton]

What free 0-advertisement phone/sms-mms/contact integrated app do you use?
<http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/01/28/phone.jpg>

On my main phone, I haven't seen an advertisement in years, but recently
I inherited 4 older non-rooted Android phones after Christmas, and am
setting them up, where I never realized until now how crappy most
phone/sms-mms/contact apps are.

* They have ads (who the heck wants to see ads, ever?)
* They aren't integrated well (from any one app, we should go to the other)
* They don't switch easily from dialer to phone to sms to contacts
etc.

After some trial and error, I am tentatively using these three:
1. phone
True Phone 1.7.1 com.hb.dialer.free
2. sms-mms
Pulse 2.7.7.1873 xyz.klinker.messengerUser
3. contact
True Phone 1.7.1 com.hb.dialer.free

What free 0-advertisement phone/sms-mms/contact integrated app do you use?
<http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/01/28/phone.jpg>

[Clare Snyder]

When you use Android, you are "signing up" for ads. It is a free
(read that as advertising supported) operating system, so "you get
what you pay for"

I use a Blackberry Q10, and the native SMS app works flawlessly with
no ads.

What's a dialer???

[The Real Bev]

The 10-key keyboard you use to make phone calls. There are a number of
them. I use the one that came with the phone (why not?) plus the
Hangouts dialer which enables me to make free wifi calls using my google
phone number.

I don't mind ads that run along the top or bottom of the screen, but the
ones that take over the entire screen are so annoying that even if I
were tempted to buy something by one (hey, it could happen, just because
I've never bought anything from an unsolicited ad in my entire life
doesn't mean it's impossible!) I wouldn't!

--
Cheers, Bev
"I am working for the time when unqualified blacks, browns and
women join the unqualified men in running our government"
-- Cissy Farenthold

[Harold Newton]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:24:35 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote:

> When you use Android, you are "signing up" for ads.

That's just dead wrong. Anyone who knows Android knows there are *plenty*
of Android apps that are free and which don't have any ads in them.

The only question is just which are the best free add-free apps for phone
dialers, sms/mms, and contact management - all integrated together.

Back on topic, I just noticed that the "True Phone" is only ad free for a
week, so we still need a good free ad-free phone/contact integration app.

1. Dialer/phone/contact app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hb.dialer.free
2. MMS/SMS app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger

F-droid has only this (150KB) T-9 Dialer2 which crashed a lot in my tests.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.dnaq.dialer2/

The "True Phone" app is (maybe?) free if gotten as a beta:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-true-phone-best-dialer-contact-t2934816

Here is the APK I am testing out: <http://dl.hamsterbeat.com>
http://dl.hamsterbeat.com/dialer/com.hb.dialer.dem-080-1.6.5-1.apk

[Harold Newton]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 12:02:32 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

>> What's a dialer???
>
> The 10-key keyboard you use to make phone calls.

I think it's called a "T-9 Dialer" but I don't know why it's called that.

As you know, just running a Google search never works, but I'll post the
results from a search for the best free ad-free T9 dialer separately to
answer the inevitable objection from people who don't understand freeware.

> I don't mind ads that run along the top or bottom of the screen.

I would think that with all the resources on this newsgroup, that we could
some up with a good free ad-free T-9 phone dialer that is available to
everyone on Android.

I deleted the "True Phone" from Google Play (which was version 1.7.1
com.hb.dialer.free) and installed the older version 1.6.5-1 APK which says
it doesn't have ads.

The only difference I see, so far, is that the Google Play "True Phone"
version "says" it will have ads after 7 days, while this "beta?" version
(seems to say?) says it will not.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-true-phone-best-dialer-contact-t2934816

[Andy Burns]

Harold Newton wrote:

> The only question is just which are the best free add-free apps for phone
> dialers, sms/mms, and contact management

What's wrong with the ad-free ones that come with the phone?

[nospam]

In article <p4leki$1oj1$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Harold Newton

<har...@example.com> wrote:

>
> >> What's a dialer???
> >
> > The 10-key keyboard you use to make phone calls.
>
> I think it's called a "T-9 Dialer" but I don't know why it's called that.

it isn't. t9 is something separate.

[Harold Newton]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:17:07 +-0000 (UTC), Harold Newton wrote:

> As you know, just running a Google search never works, but I'll post the
> results from a search for the best free ad-free T9 dialer separately to
> answer the inevitable objection from people who don't understand freeware.

Just to help those who don't yet understand freeware, here are the
generally nearly useless results of some searches that were run prior to
asking the question on this newsgroup for "free ad-free android dialers".

The Best Free Dialer Apps for Android
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/features/the-best-free-dialer-apps-for-android-669285
1. Ready Contact List
2. KK Phone
3. Contacts+-
4. Reactiv Dialer
5. DialApp
6. DW Contacts

Best Free Android Dialer Apps
https://getandroidstuff.com/best-free-dialer-apps-android/
1. Ready Contacts +- Dialer
2. Dialer One +IBM- free smart dialer
3. GO Dialer
4. Swipe Dialer Free
5. Dialer +-
6. RocketDial Dialer & Contacts

Softonic What are the best free dialer apps for android?
https://solutions.softonic.com/what-are-the-best-free-dialer-apps-for-android
1. Drupe
2. ZenUI Dialer & Contacts
3. Truecaller
4. Ready
5. True Phone Dialer & Contacts
6. Contacts+-
7. Hangouts Dialer
8. Dialer+-
9. ExDialer

What is the best Android dialer app?
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-Android-dialer-app
1. Drupe (contains ads so it's useless)
2. True Phone Dialer & Contacts
3. ZenUI Dialer & Contacts

10 Best Android Dialer Apps for 2018
https://www.updateland.com/best-android-dialer-apps/
1. Contacts Phone Dialer: Drupe (contains ads so it's useless)
2. ExDialer & Contacts
3. Contacts+-
4. Truecaller Caller ID & Dialer
5. ZenUI Dialer & Contacts
6. True Phone Dialer & Contacts
7. Contacts & Dialer by Simpler
8. Hangouts Dialer - Call Phones
9. OS9 Phone Dialer
10. Swipe Dialer - Free

7 Excellent Dialer Apps for Android
https://www.pocketmeta.com/7-excellent-dialer-apps-android-25799/
1. Ready Contact List - Price: Free (with IAPs)
2. Dialapp KitKat Dialer - Price: Free (with IAPs).
3. KK Phone - Price: Free (with IAPs)
4. Dialer+- - Price: Free
5. ExDialer - Price: $5 (free trial)
6. Truedialer - Price: Free
7. Reactiv Phone Dialer - Price: Free (Pro version available)

Phonearena 5 best Android dialer apps
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5-best-Android-dialer-apps-for-2016_id77398
1. Phone
2. Drupe
3. Zero Dialer
4. Ready Dialer
5. Truedialer

Top 10 Contacts and Dialer Apps For Android Devices
https://beebom.com/best-dialer-apps-for-android/
1. ExDialer & Contacts
2. Contacts+-
3. Go Contacts Pro
4. Contakts
5. RocketDial Dialer & Contacts
6. PixelPhone
7. Dialapp
8. Dialer One
9. Swipe Dialer
10. Simpler Dialler

[Harold Newton]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:49:36 -0500, nospam wrote:

>>>> What's a dialer???
>>>
>>> The 10-key keyboard you use to make phone calls.
>>
>> I think it's called a "T-9 Dialer" but I don't know why it's called that.
>
> it isn't. t9 is something separate.

It's a good question what the 'dialer' is properly called, which I never
thought about until The Real Bev answered Clare Snyder's question.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_(predictive_text)

T9 (predictive text)
T9, which stands for Text on 9 keys, is a U.S.-patented predictive text
technology for mobile phones (specifically those that contain a 3x4 numeric
keypad), originally developed by Tegic Communications, now part of Nuance
Communications.

T9 was used on phones from Verizon Wireless, NEC, Nokia, Samsung
Electronics, Siemens, Sony Ericsson, Sanyo, Sagem and others.

It was also used by Texas Instruments PDA Avigo during the late 1990s. Its
main competitors are iTap created by Motorola, SureType created by RIM,
Eatoni's LetterWise and WordWise, and Intelab's Tauto.

T9's objective is to make it easier to type text messages. It allows words
to be entered by a single keypress for each letter, as opposed to the
multi-tap approach used in conventional mobile phone text entry, in which
several letters are associated with each key, and selecting one letter
often requires multiple keypresses.

[Harold Newton]

I want the same dialer on all five of my phones, for consistency sake,.
The 5 phones are five different brands.

Of course, all Android owners know that the APK for the stock app can be
easily extracted and then loaded onto another phone where then it often but
not always works.

Even though bring the stock app across phones often (and almost always)
works, the problem is that almost never is the stock app the best app for
any purpose on a phone, whether that's the stock camera app, sms/mms app,
or phone dialer.

The fact is that almost always, you can greatly improve upon the stock app.

For example, anyone who uses the stock YouTube app doesn't have a clue what
they're missing with improved youtube players; and anyone using the stock
app drawer app doesn't have a clue how well you can organize, or anyone
using the stock app launcher has no idea (generally) how crappy the default
launchers are compared to the third-party free launcher capabilities.

Same with Phone Dialers, Contact Managers, & SMS/MMS apps.

The best Android apps are (almost) never the stock apps.
Even if they were, they're not consistent across phones anyway (and not all
transfer across phones).

Besides, it's a very useful task for all Android users here to know what's
the best dialer, contact manager, and sms/mms app based on people's
real-world experience.

[Harold Newton]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:48:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote:

> I've had three androids, just used the stock apps for those functions that came with it and never saw any adds.

What is the unique APK name for those three stock phone apps?

(The APK can easily be obtained from any free app backup & restore app.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.usage.appbackup

[M.L.]

>> I've had three androids, just used the stock apps for those functions that came with it and never saw any adds.
>
>What is the unique APK name for those three stock phone apps?
>
>(The APK can easily be obtained from any free app backup & restore app.)
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.usage.appbackup

APK Extractor--No AD
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ares89.appextractor

[JJ]

Mobi? Seriously? That's one of the major app ad services.

[Harold Newton]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:14:57 +0700, JJ wrote:

>> (The APK can easily be obtained from any free app backup & restore app.)
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.usage.appbackup
>
> Mobi? Seriously? That's one of the major app ad services.

Fair enough.
You entirely missed the point on naming the phone/sms-mms/contact APK.

But your objection to mobi is understandable.
Hence a fair objection.

However ... look here (at my Windows backup of Android over the Wi-Fi LAN):
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/01/29/mobi.jpg

Notice this:
App Backup & Restore-mobi.infolife.appbackup-53-v3.2.0.apk

We've been through this before, in depth.
Your objection is valid, but not the point.
Hence a red herring.

I never update an app unless I'm forced to.
My mobi is old - still works - and has zero ads.
Hence, my version is good.

It has since, I believe, gone to the dark side.
I'm not sure - but we discussed this in the past.

Assuming it has gone to the dark side, your objection to mobi is valid.
So don't use mobi. Use whatever you need to use to get the APK name.

*The point was never mobi.*

The point is that for anyone to claim that "their" phone/sms-mms/contacts
is the "one" to use is fine ... but without knowing the name of the APK,
that claim is not actionable for anyone else.

The whole point is to be actionable here.
We're not here to play games.

To wit:
What is the full unique name of the phone/sms-mms/contact app that your
experience recommends?

[Harold Newton]

Fair enough response but it's only the *means* to the answer.
Not the answer.

That specific app (or any backup app) is only the *means* to the answer.
And for that, *any* backup app is useful.

So I'll grant you that this suggestion is fair and square, and useful.

But it's only the means to the answer to the question.
It's not the answer to the question.

That's likely a great app to *obtain* the answer to the question, but
that's not even close to the answer to the question.

It doesn't matter *how* we get the answer to the question, but saying how
to get the answer doesn't answer the question.

Trader_4 suggested:

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:48:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote:

> I've had three androids, just used the stock apps for those
> functions that came with it and never saw any adds.

That's a fine suggestion - but it's not actionable until this is answered:
Q: What is the unique APK name for those three stock phone apps?

[Clare Snyder]

And exactly what does all this tripe have to do with "alt hiome
repair" - you crossposting troll!

[Chris]

Harold Newton <har...@example.com> wrote:
>
> Besides, it's a very useful task for all Android users here to know what's
> the best dialer, contact manager, and sms/mms app based on people's
> real-world experience.

Except there is no single "best" app for anything. It's all subjective.
Your fixation with ad-free apps is not shared by most, hence why all your
threads degenerate into off-topic arguments.

[Harold Newton]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:40:27 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

>> Besides, it's a very useful task for all Android users here to know what's
>> the best dialer, contact manager, and sms/mms app based on people's
>> real-world experience.
>
> Except there is no single "best" app for anything. It's all subjective.

You give up and surrender far too easily.

There should be free dialers/sms-mms/contact apps with zero ads.
That whittles down the list to almost nothing already.

Then they're integrated together, at least as nicely as the ones I found.
1. phone/contact (best so far) True Phone com.hb.dialer.dem-080-1.6.5-1.apk
2. sms-mms (best so far) Pulse 2.7.7.1873 xyz.klinker.messengerUser

If there is a better, free, ad free dialer/sms app combination, that's what
I seek.

I'll be perfectly willing to test out any suggestions, but it's surprising
that nobody has a better free no-ad app suggested than I found already.

I can't be that good. I just can't be.

What free 0-advertisement phone/sms-mms/contact integrated app do you use?

(I'll test it against the current best contenders.)\

> Your fixation with ad-free apps is not shared by most

You surrender far too easily if you accept *any* ads on your phone. Ever!
It doesn't take any brains to find crappy apps.

[Chris]

Harold Newton <har...@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:40:27 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>
>>> Besides, it's a very useful task for all Android users here to know what's
>>> the best dialer, contact manager, and sms/mms app based on people's
>>> real-world experience.
>>
>> Except there is no single "best" app for anything. It's all subjective.
>
> You give up and surrender far too easily.
>
> There should be free dialers/sms-mms/contact apps with zero ads.
> That whittles down the list to almost nothing already.
>
> Then they're integrated together, at least as nicely as the ones I found.
> 1. phone/contact (best so far) True Phone com.hb.dialer.dem-080-1.6.5-1.apk
> 2. sms-mms (best so far) Pulse 2.7.7.1873 xyz.klinker.messengerUser
>
> If there is a better, free, ad free dialer/sms app combination, that's what
> I seek.
>
> I'll be perfectly willing to test out any suggestions, but it's surprising
> that nobody has a better free no-ad app suggested than I found already.
>
> I can't be that good. I just can't be.

You aren't. No-one cares.

> What free 0-advertisement phone/sms-mms/contact integrated app do you use?
> (I'll test it against the current best contenders.)\
>
>> Your fixation with ad-free apps is not shared by most
>
> You surrender far too easily if you accept *any* ads on your phone. Ever!
> It doesn't take any brains to find crappy apps.
>
> What free 0-advertisement phone/sms-mms/contact integrated app do you use?

I don't.

[Andy Burns]

Harold Newton wrote:

> I'll be perfectly willing to test out any suggestions

com.google.android.apps.messaging
com.google.android.apps.dialer
com.google.android.apps.contacts

All available in the play store, or probably on apkmirror.com if you prefer

[Arlen Holder]

UPDATE:
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As always, to strive to add value to Usenet in every thread...
o and ... given the high cost of freeware is in finding the best ones...

This is related to the best free SMS/MMS app, which I determined
in this thread (see extensive test reports prior) to be, for me anyway:
o *Pulse SMS* (Phone/Tablet/Web), by Klinker Apps, Inc
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>

In addition, this week we tested SMS/MMS backup-&-restore apps, which,
after reasonably decent (but not extensive) testing, I report success with:
o *SMS Backup & Restore*, by SyncTech Pty Ltd
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore>

The details are gory, so I simply point you to related recent threads on the topic:
a. How to choose the best Android SMS/MMS freeware text app.
b. How to back up & restore your Android SMS/MMS messages (including MMS images).
c. How to do that backup & restore while connecting Android seamlessly to Windows.

Relevant cites:
o NEW PHONE!, by The Real Bev
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/d0Y8CqDTaog/SHkYgRc2AwAJ>
o *Tutorial: How to back up non-root Android apps and their data over Wi-Fi using Helium freeware on Windows*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/ZUEJUrPrEog>
o *Tutorial: How to connect Android to Windows as a drive letter over a Wi-Fi LAN for free simple reliable bidirectional copy*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/9Lu2_dPsu6o>
o *What's a decent XML editor specifically for editing/viewing SMS messages copied from Android to Windows?*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.text.xml/bNiXNvXiU4k>
o *Tutorial: How to back up non-root Android apps and their data over Wi-Fi using Helium freeware on Windows*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/ZUEJUrPrEog>
o *Android to Windows*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.telecom.mobile/Wluxln3nP1w>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/xwX8S7XW-p0>
o *What free non-root Android backup & restore solution do you recommend*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/jZ8IxxgXFys>
o *Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw/yBV1yLArCAAJ>
o *What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to above 1024 on Windows?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI/p7yqvwHrBQAJ>
o *Want Windows LAN viewer to open share on Android*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/XxuCDi4jkbc/5E5HS_QVBQAJ>
o *Tutorial to run any Windows command directly on Android over either USB or Wi-Fi*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/JrWLPRYO-TU/2gn6KqccBwAJ>
o *KDE Connect is a keeper for sending & receiving files over your Wi-Fi*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/4x1rf1JefW8/7EQp2nr-AAAJ>
o *3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/IswZ5yEcpYA/wWuqoICZBgAJ>
o *How to debug flaky Android-to-Windows FTP connection in Windows File Explorer?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/XFtsfaPAqFA/KQzDY3QtAwAJ>
o *What do you use to copy files from Windows XP to Android over WiFi?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/OkDfuDN9fZU/mFAMnIPGFQAJ>
o *Accessing a Windows shared folder from Android using SMB*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Hb5IAnebQmQ/Mc04bs0ZAAAJ>
o *How to get a Windows File Explorer Wi-Fi connection to Android*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ZTg_HVub8ho/2O2X-sAqAgAJ>
o *Do people of reasonable technical ability store their private data on the Internet (if so, for what gain?)*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/mBIZ-8jGdmk/aLDJkSJQAAAJ>
etc.
--
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