Copying files to PC

[philo]

If I try to copy my photos from my LG-6 via USB to my PC (either Windows
10 or Linux) the copy proceeds very slowly and if I attempt to copy a
lot of photos at once, the copy eventually fails.

If I try to copy data in another folder, such as Quick Menu it's impossible.


For now I'm uploading to Google drive and that works but surely there
muct be a better way to use USB

Any suggestions?

If a docking station designed to transfer from phone to USB stick
actually works, for me it would be worth it.


Thanks

[The Real Bev]

On 12/25/2020 12:37 PM, philo wrote:
> If I try to copy my photos from my LG-6 via USB to my PC (either Windows
> 10 or Linux) the copy proceeds very slowly and if I attempt to copy a
> lot of photos at once, the copy eventually fails.

I use the wireless ftp function of ES File Explorer to copy photos from
my android Pixel2 (and previously, Lenovo and BLU) phone to the /000
subdirectory on my linux computer. It works fine no matter how many
photos I need to copy (as many as 200 on occasion). I haven't been able
to get it to copy using the LAN (no idea why), but ftp works fine.

> If I try to copy data in another folder, such as Quick Menu it's impossible.
>
>
> For now I'm uploading to Google drive and that works but surely there
> muct be a better way to use USB
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> If a docking station designed to transfer from phone to USB stick
> actually works, for me it would be worth it.

--
Cheers, Bev
Politicians are stupid like cats are stupid.

[Carlos E.R.]

On 25/12/2020 21.37, philo wrote:
> If I try to copy my photos from my LG-6 via USB to my PC (either Windows
> 10 or Linux) the copy proceeds very slowly and if I attempt to copy a
> lot of photos at once, the copy eventually fails.

Maybe faulty cable or socket.


> Any suggestions?

ftp, as Bev says.



--
Cheers, Carlos.

[philo]

Thanks will investigate

[philo]

OK


Appreciate the quick help here

[Arlen Holder]

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 13:11:42 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

> I use the wireless ftp function of ES File Explorer to copy photos from
> my android Pixel2 (and previously, Lenovo and BLU) phone to the /000
> subdirectory on my linux computer. It works fine no matter how many
> photos I need to copy (as many as 200 on occasion). I haven't been able
> to get it to copy using the LAN (no idea why), but ftp works fine.

Merry Christmas!

Hi The Real Bev, philo, and anyone else on this newsgroup who needs Wi-Fi
file transfer between Android and their desktop.

I've probably tried _everything_ ever suggested in this newsgroup that is
freely available, for both USBG & Wi-Fi & Bluetooth file transfer between
Android, iOS, Linux, and Windows, and, to be always purposefully helpful,
I've likly written up how I did it so that others can do what I do.

Each method has its pros and cons, but all work, where I'm not sure what
happened to the original post so I can't really tell from The Real Bev's
response whether the OP (philo?) wants USB file transfer or Wi-Fi file
transfer.

Given USB file transfer is usually trivial once MTP is selected, and, yes,
I saw Carlos' response that a cable has to be good, as does the phone
driver (where I've seen two otherwise perfectly good phone drivers do two
completely different things when Android Stuidio "adb" is utilized), I will
assume the OP (philo?) is having problems with Wi-Fi file transfer.

The _easiest_ way, IMHO, to test Wi-Fi file transfer is, IMHO, NitroShare:
o Much like KDEConnect, NitroShare is FOSS software for file & folder transfer over Wi-Fi between Linux & Android
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux/c/D8bDL4LjlhQ>

Note that with NitroShare, the file transfer setup is super simple:
1. Every machine has to be on the LAN (with its own IP address)
2. You install NitroShare on the desktop (Windows, Linux, or Mac)
3. You install NitroShare on the mobile device (Android only, no iOS)

To transfer entire folders, you just run NitroShare on Android:
a. You select the files you want to transfer (or the folders)
b. You select the device to transfer them to (desktop or mobile)

And that's it.
o You can transfer your entire Android phone to another Android phone
o Or your entire Android file system over to Windows
o Or your entire Windows file system over to Android

At Wi-Fi speeds.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart, as always, to help everyone.

[Arlen Holder]

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 22:30:01 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Maybe faulty cable or socket.

Merry Christmas!

As I said to "The Real Bev", I've probably tried _every_ single file
transfer mechanism ever proposed on this newsgroup, and written up a
tutorial for each, so that others can more easily accomplish what I've
done.
o adb
o libmtp
o PTP/MTP
o FTP
o SMB
o HTTP
o ad hoc KDE Connect
o ad hoc NitroShare
etc.

For some reason I'm not seeing the entire post from the OP, so I apologize
that my prior response was explaining the easiest way to transfer files
between Android and anything else other than iOS (i.e., Windows, Linux,
Mac, or another Android device) is via "NitroShare" ad hoc Wi-Fi freeware.

It's so fast and easy that I don't use USB cable anymore as that's a PITA.

Nonetheless, the OP apparently is having problems which he shouldn't be
having, where it "could" be a faulty cable (or faulty port) for sure.

We don't know if the OP is set up for PTP or MTP so that could be an issue
also, although that's something we set up once on the day we open up a new
phone and then we forget about it forevermore, so I'm not sure the test
details.

Another way to test USB file transfer is via "adb" and also via "libmtp",
both of which I've described in gory detail in prior tutorials.

By running either "adb" over USB and/or "libmtp" over USB, the OP might be
able to debug whether it's the MTP/PTP file transfer that is faulty.

Running a quick search for the appropriate tutorials, I find for libmtp:
o Does anyone have libmtp freeware currently working on Linux or Windows who can show us how to COPY files to/from unrooted Android over USB using libmtp?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/8ICXfG2MIrs>

I didn't write a specific "adb" tutorial, but I'm sure it's described in
the Hello World tutorial if the OP needs it:
o Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/aW64zYeBtF0>

I wrote so many FTP tutorials (with Frank Slootweg's help) and WebDAV
tutorials that there are too many threads to choose from for the OP to test
out, so I only reference this one thread which covers the gory details:
o Tutorial: How to connect Android to Windows as a drive letter over a Wi-Fi LAN for free simple reliable bidirectional copy
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/9Lu2_dPsu6o/m/-EOWQQt4AAAJ>

Likewise with SMB file transfer, which has even more gory details:
o What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to something higher than 1024 on Windows?
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/3QQ8bAZeXNI/m/T-0FV7spCAAJ>

In summary, there are so many ways to copy files between Android and the
desktop that it's just not funny, where, for the OP, _one_ of the many
methods outlined above should work, and then he can debug from there.
--
Posted solely out of the goodness of my heart to help others in need.

[Arlen Holder]

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:42:36 -0600, philo wrote:

>> ftp, as Bev says.
> OK
> Appreciate the quick help here

Merry Christmas!

As I've noted, I've likely tried _every_ file transfer mechanism ever
suggested on this newsgroup, where I've documented out of the sheer
goodness of my heart, how to do each one in turn.

Personally, I never use FTP anymore unless I absolutely need to run a
Windows command _directly_ on the Android file system (which is rare).

While I seriously suggest "NitroShare" ad hoc wi-fi freeware for general
purpose file and folder copies between Android and anything other than iOS
(e.g., Windows, Linux, Mac, or another Android device), I noted when I was
looking up solutions for the OP that a very similar question was asked over
here:

o copy file from PC to Android, by pinnerite
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/UulnzJEeouo>

Here is a snippet of my response to that thread of about a year ago:

*** begin snippet ***
There are so many ways that I will have trouble listing them, e.g.,
o FTP (as you noted), via ports 22/21 for example, or sftp)
o WebDAV (as we've discussed in the past)
o HTTP and https (as we've discussed many times)
o MTP (as we've discussed many times)
o adb (all of which we've covered in detail)
o expansion slots (which are obvious)
o CalDAV (for certain types of files)
o SMB (again, all of which we've covered)
o LibMTP & MTPDrive (for those who like command line access)
o Proprietary solutions (e.g., AirDroid, WiFiDirect, Kies, DoubeTWist, etc)
o and, of course, ssh
o And likely a few I've missed in this ad hoc summary

Some of which matter "how" the Android device is connected, e.g.,
o USB versus WiFi versus expansion slots, etc.

Using the following random references as my memory aid:
o Tutorial to run any Windows command directly on Android over either USB
or Wi-Fi
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/JrWLPRYO-TU/7BMBh2WjBQAJ>

o Do you have a working freeware automatic sync between Android & Windows?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/7aOWwoEwsZ0/3f5qTpwBAgAJ>

o Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping
work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/IswZ5yEcpYA/wWuqoICZBgAJ>

o what is "android debug bridge"
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/K4UNdlVrrvs/yAB71Yp9AgAJ>

o Freeware to access your Android hosts file from Windows without being
root
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/LTQtwSGROw8/XePw-iPuAgAJ>

o Has anyone here ever set up a CalDAV server on Windows for use with
Android CalDAV clients?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/52iSsFUQinE/TOVW_iPNEQAJ>

o How to mount the entire mobile device file system on Linux
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/6PQmYWSk34I/9kz19EkZCQAJ>

o What do you use to copy text files from Windows XP to Android over WiFi?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/OkDfuDN9fZU/mFAMnIPGFQAJ>
*** end snippet ***
--
Posted solely out of the goodness of my heart to help someone in need.

[The Real Bev]

I'm lazy, so I made shortcuts on one of my home pages for the
/DCIM/camera subdirectory on my camera and the /000 subdirectory on my
computer. Minimal thinking and tapping!

--
Cheers, Bev
Todd Flanders' hobbies include being quiet on long rides,
clapping to songs and diabetes.

[philo]

Thanks


as it turns out, Google drive seems to work pretty well. Nice thing is
that it serves as a back up as well.

[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 09:45:29 -0600, philo wrote:

> as it turns out, Google drive seems to work pretty well. Nice thing is
> that it serves as a back up as well.

Hi philo,

I'm glad you resolved your issues with file transfer over USB.

For some reason I didn't see your original request, which was for USB, so I
wouldn't think "Google Drive" would work for that, unless, I guess, you're
moving the files over USB to your desktop Google Drive/One Drive folders?

Dunno, as I would never put my data on the cloud given it's my assumption
that _everything_ put on the cloud is already in the hands of hackers:
o Do people of reasonable technical ability store their private data on the Internet (if so, for what gain?)
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/mBIZ-8jGdmk>

I compiled a ton of those ways over here, based on this thread, in fact:
o Can we list all the ways we've been successful copying Android files & folders to/from Mac/Windows/Linux desktops & to/from other iOS/Android mobile devices
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/xulTadhcpb4>

I didn't add any cloud methods, but given I'm always purposefully helpful,
one method I found that appears to use the cloud is this Google app:
o Files by Google: Clean up space on your phone, by Google LLC
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.nbu.files>
"Share your pictures, videos, documents, or apps with others nearby
who also have the app. With fast speed up to 480 Mbps, it's fast, free,
and it works without the internet, so it doesn't cost mobile data.
Just pair up your phone with anyone nearby who has Files app."
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart and purpose in my soul to help.

[philo]

Oddly, I tried USB just now and it seems to be working better. It might
have been a cable problem?

I have no problem putting my stuff on the cloud ...I'd not put anything
sensitive there.

I'm a poet and no one would want to steal that stuff.

I put no copywrite on my books.

One of them I even put a note that, "if you steal these poems and make
money from it, all I ask is that you tell me how you did it."

[AJL]

philo wrote:

> I have no problem putting my stuff on the cloud ...I'd not put
> anything sensitive there.

I have a backup of my sensitive stuff on the cloud. But it's encrypted.

[philo]

Sounds like a good idea.

[Arlen Holder]

On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 11:18:53 -0600, philo wrote:

>> I have a backup of my sensitive stuff on the cloud. But it's encrypted.
>
> Sounds like a good idea.

If you're gonna put stuff in the cloud, then I agree that it's mandatory
to add your own encryption, whether or not the MARKETING of the cloud
provider "claims" (usually wholly imaginary) security, as described here:
o <https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/apple-puts-up-privacy-billboard-ahead-of-ces-2019/>

The MARKETING orgs "claim" privacy but almost nothing is really encrypted:
o iCloud backups are _NOT_ encrypted, by JF Mezei
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/-EA9TYUeVhk/>

What works well, IMHO, is cross platform FOSS "Veracrypt" freeware.
o Which pretty much works for all platforms (other than iOS, as usual)

You can easily create a Veracrypt/Truecrypt encrypted container anywhere
o And then all platforms can read the same data across your own LAN

For example, you can maintain sensitive data on a flash card in your router
o Then edit that _same_ encrypted data from any platform (other than iOS)

All using FOSS:
1. Windows === Veracrypt freeware with Truecrypt-style containers
2. Linux === Veracrypt freeware with Truecrypt-style containers
3. Android === EDS Lite freeware with Truecrypt-style containers
4. iOS === there is no freeware that handles even this simple task

See, for example:
o Best [Android] freeware for portable encrypted file containers
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/cas1QJ_j2uI/>

o Best [iOS] freeware for portable encrypted file containers
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/8GGgFKaW-70/>

o Windows freeware for portable encrypted file containers
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/5yMnlyud-Fo/>

o What do you use to send 4GB zip files (taxes) encrypted via email to a non-technical Win10 Home recipient?
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.freeware/c/35YrZb8ZA8I/>
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Posted out of the goodness of my heart to impart knowledge to others.

[philo]

On 12/25/2020 10:00 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 12/25/2020 01:30 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 25/12/2020 21.37, philo wrote:
>>> If I try to copy my photos from my LG-6 via USB to my PC (either Windows
>>> 10 or Linux) the copy proceeds very slowly and if I attempt to copy a
>>> lot of photos at once, the copy eventually fails.
>>
>> Maybe faulty cable or socket.
>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> ftp, as Bev says.
>
> I'm lazy, so I made shortcuts on one of my home pages for the
> /DCIM/camera subdirectory  on my camera and the /000 subdirectory on my
> computer.   Minimal thinking and tapping!
>

\



Sometimes the simple solution is too obvious.

I tried a shorted USB cord and problem is now solved.

A six foot cable may be just fine for charging but it's not so good for
data transfer. Now using a three foot cable.

[nospam]

In article <rtfki0$vss$1...@dont-email.me>, philo <ph...@privacy.net>
wrote:

>
> I tried a shorted USB cord and problem is now solved.

a shorted cable of any type is not going to work and could cause damage.

> A six foot cable may be just fine for charging but it's not so good for
> data transfer. Now using a three foot cable.

six foot usb cables work perfectly fine for data transfer. the maximum
length is 5 meters, or ~15 feet. your cable could be defective. maybe
it's shorted.

[philo]

On 1/10/2021 1:29 PM, philo wrote:

>
>
> Sometimes the simple solution is too obvious.
>
> I tried a shorted USB cord and problem is now solved.
>
> A six foot cable may be just fine for charging but it's not so good for
> data transfer.  Now using a three foot cable.
>

Typo: Meant to say "shorter"
using a three foot cable