File Manager +: where is multiple select?

[T]

Hi All,

In File Manager +,

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager

how do I select multiple files?

Many thanks,
-T

[Peter Jason]

I don't know. Nor have I any idea what became of
the facility to move images about with the mouse
in file explorer.

[rfthyigthhyuijrpkejsekoieddrjiljhy]

On 7/13/2018 7:05 PM, T wrote:

> In File Manager +,
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
>
>how do I select multiple files?

Dunno about that one but most of my Android file managers have worked
like this:

Touch one file for a few seconds until it highlights or gets a check
mark. Do the same for the other files you want. Then look for the action
icon (delete, move, etc.) and tap it.

[T]

I found that if I long select a file, I can then tap my way down
the list to select them all. A bit time consuming, but it works.

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 14.07.18 um 04:05 schrieb T:

> Hi All,
>
> In File Manager +,
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
>
> how do I select multiple files?

Android is not Windows. All file-types are at the right place on an
Android device. No need to fiddle around. Android is not intended to
manage files on a Windows-machine.

> Many thanks,
> -T

JLo


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[VanguardLH]

Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> schrieb T:

>
>> In File Manager +,
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
>>
>> how do I select multiple files?
>
> Android is not Windows. All file-types are at the right place on an
> Android device. No need to fiddle around. Android is not intended to
> manage files on a Windows-machine.

How does your response have anything to do with the OP's inquiry? Are
you claiming that Windows, er, its apps have capabilities, like
selecting multiple files, that is not available in Linux? Where did the
OP ever mention Windows or manipulating files over there?

In some apps that let me select multiple files, I have to use a menu,
like tapping on the 3-dot menu icon, selecting an action which then
presents a checkbox next to each object (file or folder), I choose which
objects to select, and then tap a commit button. How a multiple select
is presented depends on the app, the same in any OS (Windows/File
Manager is an app running under Windows and not the OS itself).

The OP already discovered long-tapping an object in that app provides a
multiple selection option. The above may be another method. Multiple
select is dictated by the app, not by the OS. The OS provides the file
I/O functions upon which the app is coded.

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 14.07.18 um 08:56 schrieb VanguardLH:

> Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> schrieb T:
>>
>>> In File Manager +,
>>>
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager
>>>
>>> how do I select multiple files?
>>
>> Android is not Windows. All file-types are at the right place on an
>> Android device. No need to fiddle around. Android is not intended to
>> manage files on a Windows-machine.
>
> How does your response have anything to do with the OP's inquiry? Are

To judge that is none of your business. The OP is obviously completely
new to Android.

[Allodoxaphobia]

On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 10:20:14 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
> To judge that is none of your business. The OP is obviously completely
> new to Android.

So sayeth the fella that spends more time "judging" and mocking, instead
of helping, in this ng.

[Frank Slootweg]

+1

[VanguardLH]

The OP is obviously completely new to the *app*.

[s|b]

On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:19:52 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> Android is not Windows. All file-types are at the right place on an
> Android device. No need to fiddle around. Android is not intended to
> manage files on a Windows-machine.

Very helpful.

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[T]

Hi Vanguard,

I also figured out how to use 6.0's hidden file manager, which
allows you to select all.

https://www.howtogeek.com/231401/how-to-use-android-6.0%E2%80%99s-built-in-file-manager/

-T

[VanguardLH]

T wrote:

> I also figured out how to use 6.0's hidden file manager, which
> allows you to select all.
>
> https://www.howtogeek.com/231401/how-to-use-android-6.0%E2%80%99s-built-in-file-manager/

A hidden file manager app, and another UI to learn.

Back to your original inquiry, the File Manager (already bundled in
Android) also lets you select multiple files. Go into a folder and
long-tap a file. There should be a Trash icon at the top right. Tap
it. A checkbox appears next to every file so you can select it, or you
can use the Select All link at the top left that appears. You can also
tap the menu icon (3-bar hamburger) and select, say, Move and the same
checkboxes appear next to the files and Select All also appears. Same
for the Copy, Share, and Compress actions.

That's the behavior I see using the bundled File Manager app in the
Android 7.0 on my smartphone. Over the multitude of Android versions,
the features of this app have probably changed.

[T]

On 07/14/2018 11:17 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Back to your original inquiry, the File Manager (already bundled in
> Android)

The original inquiry was for "file Manager +". It allows me
read/write to a USB drive. If the several other I tried
also did so, I couldn't figure it out.

I couldn't find the one that suppose to come with Android,
other than the hidden one.

The hidden file manager has a "select all", but it is not
intuitive to use.

[VanguardLH]

T wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Back to your original inquiry, the File Manager (already bundled in
>> Android)
>
> The original inquiry was for "file Manager +".

And yet you brought up a hidden bundled file manager in Android, and why
I mentioned how to select multiple files in the unhidden file manager
app. However, looks like the File Manager app that I have on my phone
is part of the phone maker's customization of Android. Before this LG
phone, I had Samsung and it had a file manager, too.

> It allows me read/write to a USB drive. If the several other I tried
> also did so, I couldn't figure it out.

New criteria not mentioned in your original inquiry.

> I couldn't find the one that suppose to come with Android, other than
> the hidden one.

If you go to Settings -> Apps (or whatever is your menu navigation to
get at the apps list), File Manager isn't listed? Or My Files? Or some
other file manager that was bundled on your unidentified brand and model
of Android device?

> The hidden file manager has a "select all", but it is not intuitive to
> use.

I'm not sure "hidden" is accurate. This is the same app as when you use
the Downloads app. The Explore layout starts you at a higher nav path
in the file system than does the Downloads layout. Yep, it's Select All
is under the menu. Long-tapping just selects one file. It's a crude
file manager and why I mentioned the File Manager and how it adds
checkboxes to let you select multiple files (rather than all of them) or
use the Select All (already displayed) to select all files. Per your
original inquiry, seems File Manager gives you a better UI for selecting
multiple files.

I have not tested using the bundled File Manager app to manipulate files
on an attached USB drive. I have in the past but it's been too long
since I last used a USB flash drive with my smartphone.

Could be the File Manager app on my smartphone was bundled by the phone
maker (LG) since they all like to "brand" their phones by altering the
OS to bundle in their own apps or customize the standard apps. For apps
that were installed from the Google Play Store, the Settings -> Apps
list (when an app is selected) shows at the bottom (for my Android
setup) if the app was installed from the Store. Tapping on it takes me
to the app page in the Store. The File Manager app that I have has no
such Store link since it came bundled in the OS per LG's customization
of the smartphone. It also has no ads anywhere nor any in-app purchases
(trialbait), another indicator that it didn't come from Google's Store.
I also did a search on "LG V20 file manager" which shows LG provides
something better than Google's Downloads app (with an alternate Explorer
layout). I remember using a "My Files" file manager back on my old
Samsung smartphone. Apparently whoever is the maker of your smartphone,
tablet, or whatever is your unidentified device didn't bother to include
a better file manager than the "hidden" Downloads app (with the Explore
layout available by drilling through the Settings menu).

Since my LG V20 phone came with an okay file manager, I've been impelled
to try many other file managers, especially since [nearly] all of them
at Google's Play Store are adware. I played with ES Explorer but got
rid of it when it exhibited its very rude behavior of puking out
fullscreen ads when I was not using it but it was still running in the
background. I've got Total Commander as a secondary file manager only
because it lets me see some folders that Android seems to want to hide.
Google has come out with their own Files Go file manager app (went out
of beta back in Nov-Dec 2017, requires Android 5.0+) but I haven't yet
bothered to look at it - too glitzy a UI designed for boobs (typical of
Google apps and services - code to the lowest common denominator) and
more of an assistant than a file manager. It claims to transfer files
with other users of the Files Go app without any data or wi-fi traffic
consumption. At first, I suspected it used Android Beam that use NFC
but faded away (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Beam). Engadget
says:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/05/google-releases-files-go-android-file-manager/
lets you discover other devices via Bluetooth and create a WiFi
"hotspot" to share files. If a friend also has Files Go and file
sharing enabled, it's simply a matter of hitting send or receive. "The
file transfers are encrypted, fast (up to 125 Mbps) and free," says
Google.

The only reason it would have any draw to me is that it is one of the
extremely few non-adware file manager apps at Google's Store. However,
it would only have real value on my own smartphones since obviously I
could not rely on anyone else have this app. Tis the reason I also
don't bother with free Skype calling. The apps are not yet ubiquitous
enough for me to rely on using them with other users, only by my similar
setups on my own smartphones.

[T]

On 07/15/2018 07:28 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> T wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> Back to your original inquiry, the File Manager (already bundled in
>>> Android)
>>
>> The original inquiry was for "file Manager +".
>
> And yet you brought up a hidden bundled file manager in Android,

Hi Vanguard,

The question was specifically about "File Manager +". The
rest was just conversation and sharing information.

The answer to my question was that it does not exist. This
is why I posed the hard way to do it.

>> It allows me read/write to a USB drive. If the several other I tried
>> also did so, I couldn't figure it out.
>
> New criteria not mentioned in your original inquiry.

Conversation and sharing, not new criteria.

>> I couldn't find the one that suppose to come with Android, other than
>> the hidden one.

I wanted anyone following to know that there was indeed
a hidden file system in 6.0 and that it had a "select all"
option. Again, conversation and sharing.

> Or some
> other file manager that was bundled on your unidentified brand and model
> of Android device?

Maybe I misunderstand you, but my original post did state:

LenovoPad_A10-70F
Android 6.0

Can't get any more specific than that. But maybe I
misunderstand your point.

> I'm not sure "hidden" is accurate.

I used that term as it was the term used in the article
I referenced.

https://www.howtogeek.com/231401/how-to-use-android-6.0%E2%80%99s-built-in-file-manager/

> I have not tested using the bundled File Manager app to manipulate files
> on an attached USB drive. I have in the past but it's been too long
> since I last used a USB flash drive with my smartphone.

Dare I say what I was doing with the flash drive? Probably not.

>
> The only reason it would have any draw to me is that it is one of the
> extremely few non-adware file manager apps at Google's Store.

I did a search on ad free file manager. And, sadly, found ads
had been added to most of the. I do adore File Manager +. Someday,
maybe they will include a "select all". The hidden file manager
is really awkward to use. I hate adware.

-T

[VanguardLH]

T wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Or some other file manager that was bundled on your unidentified
>> brand and model of Android device?
>
> Maybe I misunderstand you, but my original post did state:
>
> LenovoPad_A10-70F
> Android 6.0
>
> Can't get any more specific than that. But maybe I
> misunderstand your point.

In THIS thread? Here's your original post in THIS thread:

Hi All,

In File Manager +,

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager

how do I select multiple files?

Many thanks,
-T

And nothing in the title, either. I did find where you stated the brand
and model of the device in a DIFFERENT thread, the one titled "Can I use
a USB hub on the USB OTG port?" There is nothing in THIS thread to
connect to your other thread that you were asking for a file manager on
that same device. Sorry, but don't expect others to string together
your separate threads. Since you're the one supposedly contracting with
several users as their IT guy, every thread of yours could be for a
different customer of yours.

If you want to adjoin multiple threads, you should've replied to your
own prior thread instead of starting a new one or referenced your prior
thread when you started a new one.

>> I have not tested using the bundled File Manager app to manipulate files
>> on an attached USB drive. I have in the past but it's been too long
>> since I last used a USB flash drive with my smartphone.
>
> Dare I say what I was doing with the flash drive? Probably not.

A USB [flash] drive. A file manager. Hmm, now what could be inferred
from those two data points?

>> The only reason it would have any draw to me is that it is one of the
>> extremely few non-adware file manager apps at Google's Store.
>
> I did a search on ad free file manager. And, sadly, found ads
> had been added to most of the. I do adore File Manager +. Someday,
> maybe they will include a "select all". The hidden file manager
> is really awkward to use.

I could not find the author of the File Manager+ app provided a web site
for additional help, well, for any help. Is the app itself completely
devoid of any documentation, too? I've seen many apps where the author
forgets that the users did not develop the app yet figures the users
will just somehow divine its operations and features, something like
buying a mystery can: no label, you have to discover what's inside.

> I hate adware.

Me, too, and why I mentioned Google's File Go! app. After trying
several, I gave up trying to find a TRULY free app. An app is not free
if it has ads as the nuisance and interference of the ads is the cost of
that pseudo-free app. Those adware apps are baitware attempting to get
you to bite into paying for the app (instead of running as ad-free
trialware to let you test to determine if you're willing to pay).

I've read the OI File Manager is open source and supposed to be ad-free.
While it does have a web site for the app, it is just a page with links
pointing to the Google Play Store and GitHub repository. No additional
help (just like the Korean File Manager+). While GitHub says some of
the folders have been updated in the last few months, seems the crux of
the app is about 4-5 years old. That's okay if the file API it uses
hasn't changed much in the Android versions that showed up thereafter.

The Astro File Manager boldly proclaims "No Ads" in the app description
in the Google Play Store. It has its own web site but the Support page
is a short FAQ. They have an e-mail address (which validated on the
RCPT TO command when I checked via SMTP) for reporting bugs or maybe to
ask for help.

X-plore File Manager supposedly has no ads; however, it does have in-app
purchases (which means the app is baitware but, at least, sans ads).
The Store's app description page mentions support for OTG USB as a
feature in the free version (those without the *** notation). It has a
site for the author to present his wares. Alas, the Support page is
just a web form to request help

[T]

On 07/15/2018 12:12 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> In THIS thread?

Oh ya. It was in the hub thread. I though I had
copied and pasted it. oops!

> And nothing in the title, either.

Subject: "File Manager +: where is multiple select?"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That one wasn't me, this time.

> X-plore File Manager

I tried that one. Loved the two pane layout (reminds me
of Krusder in Linux, which I adore). But I couldn't
figure out how to access my flash drive.

You wouldn't know where the mount points are for such
things, would you? (I could not find a /run/media like
in Linux.)

Next step, get Fedora to FINALLY read my tablet:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1527735

Then I finally write a backup program for my wife.
(She finds "cloud" backup "creepy". Her words, not
mine, but I do agree.) I write a lot of stuff in
Perl 6.


I am really leery of using anything form Google
because of their spying and yes I do realize Android
is a Google product. I could not find a Linux tablet
and Netflix does not run in Linux.

-T

Odd, RHEL does read my tablet. Usually RHEL is so bug
riddled and out of date that Fedora leaves in the dust.
And typically RHEL takes seven year to never to fix anything,
where Fedora is usually only a month. So this bug's delay
is puzzling.

[VanguardLH]

T wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> X-plore File Manager
>
> I tried that one. Loved the two pane layout (reminds me of Krusder in
> Linux, which I adore). But I couldn't figure out how to access my
> flash drive.
>
> You wouldn't know where the mount points are for such things, would
> you? (I could not find a /run/media like in Linux.)

While Android is a Linux variant, many common practices in Linux got
altered or ignored by Google. Gotta do it their way. Yes, it's Linux
but it's a Google-ized variant. That's similar to their Gmail doesn't
strictly follow the RFC standards for POP or IMAP, either, and why I
refer to Google's e-mail protocol variants as gPOP and gIMAP (and, or
course, like Microsoft, Google has their own proprietary e-mail API).

From what I see on my Android 7, the root folder for mounted volumes is
under /storage. The main storage is under /storage/emulated (don't ask
me why they choose the "emulated" path name) while the SD card is under
/storage/0000-0000 (again, no clue about why Google chose a number to
enumate a mount point).

Although there are many file managers that claim to show everything of
Android's file system, I suspect the OS won't support some file calls
when the phone is not rooted. That is, the apps can show more only if
the phone is rooted. I haven't delved into rooting my phone (too new,
not going to risk bricking it yet). I've seen some users note looking
under /proc/mtd and /proc/emmc to see the mounted partitions but those
don't show on my phone probably because it's not rooted. I've seen run
'mount' in an ADB shell or a terminal emulator to list the mount points,
or 'cat /proc/dev' or 'cat /proc/mtd' if rooted.

Apparently the DiskInfo app can show the mount points. I don't know if
it has remained ad-free or devolved yet. Google's Play Store does NOT
mention the app contains ads or in-app purchases.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.kuder.diskinfo
(the Pro version costs $2.49)
If it isn't baitware or adware, might be worth looking at. It's on my
list of apps to review but I'm a bit too busy right now.

[nospam]

In article <1ld0ysdq7m9ri$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH>
wrote:

> > You wouldn't know where the mount points are for such things, would
> > you? (I could not find a /run/media like in Linux.)
>
> While Android is a Linux variant, many common practices in Linux got
> altered or ignored by Google. Gotta do it their way. Yes, it's Linux
> but it's a Google-ized variant.

nope. android sits on top of a (modified) linux kernel, with its own
apis and runtime. android apps are written in java and now kotlin.

<https://developer.android.com/guide/platform/images/android-stack_2x.pn
g>

<https://developer.android.com/guide/platform/>

trying to use android as a generic linux box is just asking for
problems.

[T]

Thank you!

[VanguardLH]

I did just try it. In its settings is an Expert mode that will show you
probably more than you dreamed. Got me lost what it all is.

[T]

Couldn't find any of the mount points. Oh well, at least the
sub drive shows up in "File Manager +"

"bateware". Love the word!

We don't put out credit card number out on Windows or Android,
so we get anything from Google Play, unless it is free.

[nospam]

In article <pinrg0$o8s$1...@dont-email.me>, <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> We don't put out credit card number out on Windows or Android,
> so we get anything from Google Play, unless it is free.

gift cards.

[T]

Ya, I know.

I was thinking of that for an adapter I wanted from AliExpress,
which is know to steel your card numbers.

So far, haven't need to buy anything directly on Android.
My wife love her Kindle books, but we buy those from Amazon
over Fedora Linux.

[VanguardLH]

T wrote:

> "bateware". Love the word!

Baitware, not bateware since that might allure to something more carnal
it does to your, um, /hard/ware (*). Lureware has been in use for quite
awhile but it just doesn't have as nasty a connotation as baitware.

(*) I hadn't even thought about porn on my smartphone, so I searched on
"android porn app" and, yep, they exist. I'd lump it together with
casinoware: too much risk of malware and it's definitely revenueware. I
don't play games on my smartphone, either. Those Candy Crush
commercials are highly indicative of the boobs to which they cater.

[nospam]

In article <pio51d$qcj$1...@dont-email.me>, <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >> We don't put out credit card number out on Windows or Android,
> >> so we get anything from Google Play, unless it is free.
> >
> > gift cards.
>
> Ya, I know.
>
> I was thinking of that for an adapter I wanted from AliExpress,
> which is know to steel your card numbers.

i was referring to google play gift cards.

[T]

I was thinking you were referring to any gift card. Wally World
sells them. I also thought it was a good idea too.

:-)

[nospam]

In article <piobs5$59i$2...@dont-email.me>, <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >>>> We don't put out credit card number out on Windows or Android,
> >>>> so we get anything from Google Play, unless it is free.
> >>>
> >>> gift cards.
> >>
> >> Ya, I know.
> >>
> >> I was thinking of that for an adapter I wanted from AliExpress,
> >> which is know to steel your card numbers.
> >
> > i was referring to google play gift cards.
>
> I was thinking you were referring to any gift card. Wally World
> sells them. I also thought it was a good idea too.
>
> :-)

<https://play.google.com/intl/en_us/about/giftcards/>

lots of stores sell them, or order them online.

[Andy Burns]

T wrote:

> AliExpress, which is know to steel your card numbers.

Proof?

[Piet]

Now that America's Leading Zero has put high tariffs on
steel from China, they have to get it out in other ways.

-p

[T]

Asked a bunch of friends. One even gave me details of how his
card goes used all over Australia

[Joerg Lorenz]

Am 20.07.18 um 22:14 schrieb T:

*ROTFLSTC*!
Look for better friends with more brain.

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[s|b]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:14:04 -0700, T wrote:

> Asked a bunch of friends. One even gave me details of how his
> card goes used all over Australia

My aunt, sister and mother have bought from AliExpress a bunch of times.
So far no one's complaining about their cards being abused...

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