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FP wants to change system settings. Would you be suspicious

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micky

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Feb 11, 2018, 5:09:57 PM2/11/18
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FreedomPop worked fine this morning**. Then 4 hours later, I go to make
a call and as soon as I start the FP app (It can't use the regular
dialer), the message is

Permission Request
Please turn on Write Settings Permission on the next screen so we can
route your calls effectively.

And the next screen says:
Allow modify system settings
This permission allows an app to modify system settings.


I've been making occasional calls with this phone and this app and FP
for months, and suddenly it asks for this. Would you be suspicious?
Would you do it?

Allow modify system settings sounds so powerful.

The first call today was the first since I downgraded to free.


** The phone rang 4 or 5 times and then suddenly stopped, even though no
one had answered. Calling on the home phone, it rang a little more and
a machine answered. But sttill I don't think that is the problem.

Andy Burns

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Feb 11, 2018, 5:34:27 PM2/11/18
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micky wrote:

> Permission Request
> Please turn on Write Settings Permission on the next screen so we can
> route your calls effectively.
>
> And the next screen says:
> Allow modify system settings
> This permission allows an app to modify system settings.

When an app asks for permissions, and it's not obvious why it needs them
(e.g. a camera app asking permission to use the camera) my reaction is
to deny it, and see if it does all that I need, if so leave it at that.

micky

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Feb 11, 2018, 10:18:15 PM2/11/18
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In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 11 Feb 2018 22:34:26 +0000, Andy Burns
Well the problem is that there is no NO, and when I back out of the two
screens, I get a blue screen with FP in the middle and an endlessly
spinning headless arrow. Restarting FP and restarting the phone doesn't
change this...it's the first question it asks before anything else, and
that's been true for 7 hours.

(Even though earlier today it worked fine. It must have been updated,
or some setting in my account was changed. Is there a way to find out
when an app was updated. I guess I can find the file using file
manager.?? )

So the choice is to say yes, or just quit FP, and given all the trouble
FP gives its customers, quitting seems reasonable. OTOH if it isn't
trouble, I don't want to quit. Googling the message and FP together
gives no hits.

Andy Burns

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Feb 12, 2018, 4:37:32 AM2/12/18
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micky wrote:

> Well the problem is that there is no NO

What android version? if it's 7+ and the app is 7+ aware, you should get
a grant/deny/always-deny permissions dialog,

You say it's just started doing this, has the app updated itself?


micky

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Feb 12, 2018, 5:04:42 AM2/12/18
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:37:32 +0000, Andy Burns
<use...@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>
>> Well the problem is that there is no NO
>
>What android version? if it's 7+

It is 7.xx, but I don't know what the app is aware of.

>and the app is 7+ aware, you should get
>a grant/deny/always-deny permissions dialog,
>
>You say it's just started doing this, has the app updated itself?

Haven't been to sleep yet, 5AM here. I'll try to check tomorror.

micky

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Feb 12, 2018, 1:16:44 PM2/12/18
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:37:32 +0000, Andy Burns
I forgot that I was going to check on this, and I guess I assumed it had
updated yesterday. But after needing the number for whatsapp, and
getting a phone call from the dentist's offic (which I told to call me
at home) and thinking it about it another night, even though their
billing is a problem. I have no reason to think they mess with my phone.

So I said yes, and now I see part of the user interface, where it says
my phone number and how much data, minutes, texts, days left I have left
has changed. It's more colorful and there may be a couple new buttons
but it was more legible in black and white and the numbers were bigger,
easier to read, just like the difference between an analog and digital
clock.

But they're not hard to read.

And maybe there are a couple more buttons.

Maybe they hadn't to change some setting to install the new interface?

Also there's a setting about eliminating echo that I don't remember
seeing before. It's turned on and says it's been calibrated.

One button is "self help" and it says they don't charge overage for
voice and text, they send a notice adn you can upgrade your plan if you
want. But for data, it says they caharge your credit card, but they
mean that they take it out of the credit balance, at 1.5p/mb. But this
whole paragraph is in British money. In lower case, mb means megabit,
right? But what about in the UK. I wouldn't put it past them to be
billing by megabit.

Anyhow, since I've disabled topping up, when I use up my $15 by going
over my 500mb/month, my account will be suspended.

And I still don't have any voice mail, just a note that they called,
because I didn't pay extra.

We're 6 days into my 1st month on the new free plan and I still have all
$15 credit that they made me buy. 234 days to go to parity.


Andy Burns

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Feb 12, 2018, 2:35:18 PM2/12/18
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micky wrote:

> now I see part of the user interface, where it says
> my phone number and how much data, minutes, texts, days left I have left
> has changed. It's more colorful and there may be a couple new buttons
> but it was more legible in black and white

The UI of some android apps can alter, without the app being updated, if
it works by scraping some content from the web and displaying it inside
the app ...

micky

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Feb 15, 2018, 2:13:25 AM2/15/18
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:35:18 +0000, Andy Burns
Well, I let it change the system settings, and it asks again just like
the first time to do it every time I start the app, 3 times so far. It
also gives me the same Tip every time, maybe that all my phone calls
will be placed through sim1 (even though one can get around that if he
tries a little.) and a third extra thing I think it does every time I
start the app. Double ugh.

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