Can't log in - deleted keyboard

[David Higton]

I was deleting some apps that I thought I no longer needed, from my
OnePlus 3T. Unfortunately I deleted the Microsoft Swifft Keyboard,
not realising that it was my normal keyboard. Now I can enter the
SIM PIN (the phone provides a numeric pad on screen for that), but
I can't unlock the screen because the phone does not provide a
default keyboard. Therefore I can't get in to undo my mistake.

Any ideas for a fix, without deleting all the data, would be welcome.

David

[KenW]

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:35:33 GMT, David Higton <da...@davehigton.me.uk>
wrote:

This search turned up some info
> by mistake i deleted my android keyboard <


KenW

[Anssi Saari]

It does seem odd that this is your only keyboard and you could delete it
just like that? But the solution is installing the keyboard with a
command like

adb install whatsit.apk

Meaning, get dev tools which include adb (or a package with just adb), a
USB cable, a computer, plug phone in via USB, maybe install some
drivers, grab the apk for the Swiftkey keyboard and give that
command. Quite some work if you're not familiar with any of it.

[Arlen Holder]

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:35:33 GMT, David Higton wrote:

> the phone does not provide a default keyboard

I googled and it does appear the OnePlus comes with SwiftKey as the default
keyboard, at least based on this thread:
o OnePlus 3T Tips and Tricks
<https://www.androidbeat.com/2017/01/top-oneplus-3t-tips-tricks/>
"OnePlus 3T comes with Swiftkey installed."

You may need to factory reset that OnePlus3T and start over again:
o <https://howto-android.com/how-to-factory-reset-your-oneplus-3t/>
o <https://helpandroid.com/how-to-reset-oneplus-3t/>
o <https://www.techjunkie.com/how-to-hard-reset-oneplus-3t/>

I didn't see a solution that would get you past your issue
o Other than a factory reset (which you don't want to do).

When you fix it, you might want to consider _multiple_ keyboards:
o Which is your favorite Android virtual keyboard for handwriting & voice microphone & keypress typing?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/3mF2M17BODE>

For example, I've ditched SwiftKey for Gboard, and this forum article
implies a lot of OnePlus owners do the same (after a factory reset):
<https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/keyboard-not-showing.496037/>

Once you install a bunch of keyboards, then set Gboard to the default:
o How to set default keyboard on the OnePlus smartphone
<https://www.techbone.net/oneplus/user-manual/set-default-keyboard>

Good luck.
o Please let us know how it works out so all benefit from every action.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to help someone in need indeed.

[Andy Burns]

David Higton wrote:

> I was deleting some apps that I thought I no longer needed, from my
> OnePlus 3T. Unfortunately I deleted the Microsoft Swifft Keyboard,
>

> Any ideas for a fix,

login to the play store on your PC, using the same account the phone
does, and re-install the Swift keyboard, this will "push" the apk to the
phone ...

[David Higton]

In message <dcce64dd58.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>

My thanks to all who replied. I didn't realise that apps could be
installed remotely. I installed Gboard, after which I was presented
with a keyboard and was able to log in.

(I had re-installed SwiftKey yesterday via adb and a USB cable. The
phone did briefly show a notification that it had been installed. I
now have to ask myself whether I was using SwiftKey before or not. I
wouldn't remember stuff like that once I'd got the phone working as I
wished. Anyway, it doesn't matter now, as it's working again.)

David

[micky]

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:56:41 GMT, David Higton

<da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

>My thanks to all who replied. I didn't realise that apps could be
>installed remotely.

It seems a lot of people don't know that. Someone should tell them.

I install all of mine that way. If you have or had more than one phone
that it will work in, it gives you a choice.

[Arlen Holder]

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:56:41 GMT, David Higton wrote:

> My thanks to all who replied. I didn't realise that apps could be
> installed remotely.

In addition to installing apps remotely via Google Play logins, you can
also automatically back up all the apps on any one device (or many), and
then with a tap of a button, copy all those APKs to _every_ device on your
LAN.

I do this copy over the Wi-Fi LAN of files & folders all the time.
o You can copy from Windows to Linux to Mac to Android (& vice versa).

Just install "nitroshare" on your devices (works on all but iOS).
o At the tap of a button, all your APKs are on all your devices

I have many hundreds, well over 500 apps, where only one out of every
couple hundred APKs doesn't work on a newer phone (it's rare but it can
happen).

For the tutorial, see this thread:
o Tutorial NitroShare FOSS cross-platform file & folder transfer over Wi-Fi
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/mbOyLNcrCK4>
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to help others be more productive.

[Frank Slootweg]

micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:56:41 GMT, David Higton
> <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>
> >My thanks to all who replied. I didn't realise that apps could be
> >installed remotely.
>
> It seems a lot of people don't know that. Someone should tell them.

Many people don't know that the Google Play *website* exists
(<https://play.google.com/store>).

Once they are aware of the website, the big green 'Install' button is
right in front of them.

> I install all of mine that way. If you have or had more than one phone
> that it will work in, it gives you a choice.

Yes, I also install nearly all my apps that way. Normally one first
investigates and searches for new apps. Part of that process is/
should_be looking at the Google Play page for those apps, so one might
as well install from the website, instead of redoing the process with
the Play Store app on the Android device.

[micky]

In comp.mobile.android, on 14 Dec 2020 14:23:28 GMT, Frank Slootweg

<th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:56:41 GMT, David Higton
>> <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >My thanks to all who replied. I didn't realise that apps could be
>> >installed remotely.
>>
>> It seems a lot of people don't know that. Someone should tell them.
>
> Many people don't know that the Google Play *website* exists
>(<https://play.google.com/store>).

Right. If you use Firefox and turn on the separate search box that uses
alternate "search engines", one of the preloaded ones is the playstore.

But many people don't use FF and I suppose some who do don't turn the
second searchbox. (Well, even if you use the main location box, there
is a row of icons for those search engines along the bottom of the list
of suggested urls, but I find that list easy to ignore.)

> Once they are aware of the website, the big green 'Install' button is
>right in front of them.
>
>> I install all of mine that way. If you have or had more than one phone
>> that it will work in, it gives you a choice.
>
> Yes, I also install nearly all my apps that way. Normally one first
>investigates and searches for new apps. Part of that process is/
>should_be looking at the Google Play page for those apps, so one might
>as well install from the website, instead of redoing the process with
>the Play Store app on the Android device.

Apparently a lot of young people have no computer, only a phone. I
think phones are usually inconvenient, except for phone calls and google
maps, and these young people don't know what they are missing.

Instacart offered me one more free delivery of groceries if I installed
the app. It only said install, didn't say use, but maybe it will insist
on that too. At least I can make up the order on the PC and if I have
to, I can finalize it on the phone. But that will be the last time I
use the phone for groceries.

[Frank Slootweg]

micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on 14 Dec 2020 14:23:28 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> >micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
> >> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:56:41 GMT, David Higton
> >> <da...@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >My thanks to all who replied. I didn't realise that apps could be
> >> >installed remotely.
> >>
> >> It seems a lot of people don't know that. Someone should tell them.
> >
> > Many people don't know that the Google Play *website* exists
> >(<https://play.google.com/store>).
>
> Right. If you use Firefox and turn on the separate search box that uses
> alternate "search engines", one of the preloaded ones is the playstore.
>
> But many people don't use FF and I suppose some who do don't turn the
> second searchbox. (Well, even if you use the main location box, there
> is a row of icons for those search engines along the bottom of the list
> of suggested urls, but I find that list easy to ignore.)

I only have to type 'play' in the address/search bar of my
<I_could_tell_you_but_then_I_would_have_to_kill_you> browser and it will
get the Google Play website from its history.

> > Once they are aware of the website, the big green 'Install' button is
> >right in front of them.
> >
> >> I install all of mine that way. If you have or had more than one phone
> >> that it will work in, it gives you a choice.
> >
> > Yes, I also install nearly all my apps that way. Normally one first
> >investigates and searches for new apps. Part of that process is/
> >should_be looking at the Google Play page for those apps, so one might
> >as well install from the website, instead of redoing the process with
> >the Play Store app on the Android device.
>
> Apparently a lot of young people have no computer, only a phone. I
> think phones are usually inconvenient, except for phone calls and google
> maps, and these young people don't know what they are missing.

Well, in the scenario of this thread, they could use a webbrowser on
another phone to invoke the (re-)install of the keyboard app.

But being young, .... :-)

> Instacart offered me one more free delivery of groceries if I installed
> the app. It only said install, didn't say use, but maybe it will insist
> on that too. At least I can make up the order on the PC and if I have
> to, I can finalize it on the phone. But that will be the last time I
> use the phone for groceries.

Our groceries delivery company only works with an app, so I 'had' to
buy a smartphone for SWMBO. The horror! :-)

[Arlen Holder]

On 14 Dec 2020 14:23:28 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> Many people don't know that the Google Play *website* exists
> (<https://play.google.com/store>).

AFAIK, you can install Android apps _many_ ways, where, I agree with Frank
that it seems people don't know you can install onto Android from a desktop
over the Internet while logged into the Google Play store.

I don't use the Google Play "website" simply because it requires a login
(AFAIK), but I do use the "Aurora Store", which doesn't require a login.
o <https://auroraoss.com/downloads.php>

The Aurora Store will "spoof" anything you want it to spoof, as it grabs
the _exact same_ APK from the Google Play store.
o <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/>

Note that, with the Aurora store, you have a switch to _save_ all APKs!
o Just like with the Aurora Droid (which replaces the F-Droid repository).

So yet another way to install free apps on all devices hooked up to your
network is just to send them to your device over your Wi-Fi home LAN.

For example, Nitroshare will send those entire saved APK directories to and
from your Windows, Linux, Mac, and Android devices on your LAN over WiFi.
o NitroShare binaries & source code for all platforms (other than iOS)
<https://nitroshare.net/>

For someone like me who has over 500 apps installed, that's a time saver!
--
Unfortunately, AFAICT, NitroShare does not work on iOS (too bad).

[micky]

In comp.mobile.android, on 14 Dec 2020 19:27:34 GMT, Frank Slootweg

<th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:


>
> Well, in the scenario of this thread, they could use a webbrowser on
>another phone to invoke the (re-)install of the keyboard app.

I didn't think of that.

>
> But being young, .... :-)

>> Instacart offered me one more free delivery of groceries if I installed
>> the app. It only said install, didn't say use, but maybe it will insist
>> on that too. At least I can make up the order on the PC and if I have
>> to, I can finalize it on the phone. But that will be the last time I
>> use the phone for groceries.
>
> Our groceries delivery company only works with an app,

Wow. I guess mine is lenient by comparison.

> so I 'had' to
>buy a smartphone for SWMBO. The horror! :-)

Gotta do what you gotta do.