control smart phone from windows 10

[Linea Recta]

because of bad eye sight problem I need to control my smartphone from my
computer screen.
I dont have windows 10 yet.
Anyone know if my device is supported under windows 10?
though usb and/or wifi

Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-I9195
Android 4.4.2


thanks for any info

[VanguardLH]

And what *DO* you have on your "computer" (whatever that is)? Could be
Windows, but which version? Could be Linux. Could be MacOS/OSX.

You mention Windows 10 in your Subject. So, is this an inquiry about
what you could use if and whenever you get Windows 10 sometime later?

https://www.google.com/search?q=remote%20control%20android%20smartphone%20screen%20windows%20desktop

found possibilities, like:

https://www.androidauthority.com/control-android-from-pc-854442/

I've used AirDroid to mirror my smartphone's screen (Android 4.4 to 6)
on my desktop PC (Windows 7 Home x64 and Windows 10 Home x64). I used a
USB connection to eliminate any lag in screen updates.

To get it all working, I recall going into Developer mode on the phone
(look it up online since your phone may vary, but usually you tap 7
times the version under About for your phone). Then go into Dev options
to enable USB debugging mode. They you install a ADB (Android Debug
Bridge) driver on your Windows desktop, so it knows how to communicate
with the Android device. I used AirDroid (but just its AirMirror
component since I didn't need other things, like file transfer since I
could use OneDrive, GoogleDrive, or Dropbox for that, but which looks
like they moved file transfer into their premium version).

Looks like they changed the setup since I last trialed it. You install
the AirMirror app on the smartphone, and the AirDroid app on your
desktop. Don't remember if they require you to go through enabling Dev
Options and USB Debugging mode on the phone, anymore. They could, for
example, install AirMirror on the phone and then request you grant it
admin privileges. As I recall, to uninstall meant you first had to
relinquish admin privs from AirMirror on the phone, and then uninstall
AirMirror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz6mI31N3To

There are different ways to connect via AirDroid to your phone, like
wifi, USB cable between desktop PC and smartphone, and Internet (desktop
and phone need Internet access). They did have Bluetooth in the past,
but it was far too laggy, so they dropped it.

[Linea Recta]

"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht
news:1jc91w3e...@v.nguard.lh...

> Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
>
>> because of bad eye sight problem I need to control my smartphone from
>> my computer screen. I dont have windows 10 yet. Anyone know if my
>> device is supported under windows 10? though usb and/or wifi
>>
>> Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-I9195
>> Android 4.4.2
>
> And what *DO* you have on your "computer" (whatever that is)? Could be
> Windows, but which version? Could be Linux. Could be MacOS/OSX.
>
> You mention Windows 10 in your Subject. So, is this an inquiry about
> what you could use if and whenever you get Windows 10 sometime later?

Thats the idea!
I tried to keep my message bried.
At the moment i have very old (2008) laptop and pc, both windows 7.
It will take considerable amount of time for me to work out your reply.

thanks very much so far!

mv

[Linea Recta]

as for teamviewer:
i had it working up to 1 or 2 years ago.
then an update ruined compatibility with my phone.
(from android 5 and up)
bastards.

then sidesync:
looks great
compatible with my phone and windows 7, 10.
but all download links are dead


regards
mv


btw i was told that windows 10 itself supports mirroring and control of
android (versions?) devices?

[micky]

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 6 Apr 2021 18:33:47 +0200, "Linea Recta"

<bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:

>"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht
>news:1jc91w3e...@v.nguard.lh...
>> Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> because of bad eye sight problem I need to control my smartphone from
>>> my computer screen. I dont have windows 10 yet. Anyone know if my
>>> device is supported under windows 10? though usb and/or wifi
>>>
>>> Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-I9195
>>> Android 4.4.2
>>
>> And what *DO* you have on your "computer" (whatever that is)? Could be
>> Windows, but which version? Could be Linux. Could be MacOS/OSX.
>>
>> You mention Windows 10 in your Subject. So, is this an inquiry about
>> what you could use if and whenever you get Windows 10 sometime later?
>
>
>Thats the idea!
> I tried to keep my message bried.
>At the moment i have very old (2008) laptop and pc, both windows 7.

Nothin' wrong with win7.

It depends what you mean when you say control.

I'm reminded of a cartoon. It showed a guy in coveralls in a woman's
kitchen and the mice and roaches were lined up in rank and file and
marching across the floor, and on the back of his uniform it said Acme
Pest Control, and he was saying, We don't kill them, Lady. We just
control them.

The easiest to use is MyPhoneExplorer. It does loads of things,
probably everything you want, but it doesn't display a representation of
the phone screen on your PC. When I tried programs that did that, they
all gave me trouble. I used Teamviewer too, and iirc it worked but I
still liked MyPhoneExplorer better. Free/ Two parts, one part goes on
your phone, another part on the PC.

[Linea Recta]

"micky" <NONONO...@fmguy.com> schreef in bericht
news:59mq6g9mg0qpambjq...@4ax.com...

> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 6 Apr 2021 18:33:47 +0200, "Linea Recta"
> <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht
>>news:1jc91w3e...@v.nguard.lh...
>>> Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> because of bad eye sight problem I need to control my smartphone from
>>>> my computer screen. I dont have windows 10 yet. Anyone know if my
>>>> device is supported under windows 10? though usb and/or wifi
>>>>
>>>> Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-I9195
>>>> Android 4.4.2
>>>
>>> And what *DO* you have on your "computer" (whatever that is)? Could be
>>> Windows, but which version? Could be Linux. Could be MacOS/OSX.
>>>
>>> You mention Windows 10 in your Subject. So, is this an inquiry about
>>> what you could use if and whenever you get Windows 10 sometime later?
>>
>>
>>Thats the idea!
>> I tried to keep my message bried.
>>At the moment i have very old (2008) laptop and pc, both windows 7.
>
> Nothin' wrong with win7.
>
> It depends what you mean when you say control.

The main purpose is that i need the phone screen mirrored on my pc, with
complete interaction of all operations.
i want to enter text, use sms, edit contacts, modify settings etc of the
phone and all its apps.
especially the keyboard simulation in android is a pain in the neck for my
eyes...

[Frank Slootweg]

See KenW's new post "Control Android from computer". (Do not know
why it is a seperate post/thread, but it's very valuable.)

He refers to

'Can I Control My Android Phone From My Computer?'
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/can-i-control-a-phone-with-my-computer-android/#:~:text=Connect%20your%20phone%20to%20your,the%20two%20devices%20are%20connected.>

(shorter URL, but without the jump to the relevant section
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/can-i-control-a-phone-with-my-computer-android>)

and specifically to AirDroid and AirMirror.

AirDroid is probably too limited for your needs, because it only
allows calls, text (SMS?) messages and photos/videos/music.

But AirDroid+AirMirror offers "full remote control of Android from
your PC", which is exactly what you need.

(IMO) The beauty of these apps is that they support 'very old' Android
versions, such as your Android 4.4.2 Samsung Galaxy S4 mini GT-I9195
phone.

AirDroid says "Requires Android 4.0 and up" and AirMirror says
"Requires Android 4.1 and up", so they should work on your 4.4.2 phone.

N.B. The webpage also mentions Vysor. The Vysor Android app says
"Requires Android 4.4 and up", so that's also an option.

P.S. When responding - not just to me, but in general - please explain
to the audience why you have such an 'old' phone, why you cannot / do
not want to replace it and how difficult it is - because of your
eyesight - to do anything on the phone, i.e. including to install/
configure things on the phone to help you use your computer instead of
your phone. I.e. explain your Catch-22 situation.

Of course I know all that background, but others will/might not or
might not remember.

As always, good luck.

[micky]

In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 7 Apr 2021 12:59:52 +0200, "Linea Recta"

You can do all these things with MyPhoneExplorer, using the full size
keyboard.

> modify settings etc of the
>phone and all its apps.

Maybe not this, but how often does one do this. AND, there's no reason
you can't use two or more programs at different times for differen
things.

>especially the keyboard simulation in android is a pain in the neck for my
>eyes...

My eyes are fine and I think it's a pain in the neck too. I especially
like MPE for sending texts, when I'm forced to do that. I didn't find
the place to send them to be obvious, even the second time, but it's
there. You have to have the phone connected (by cable, wifi, or
bluetooth, any of them) to send a text, or to do most things I guess (
but you can only send a text straight from your email without the phone
if you know what carrier the other cell phone uses. When you go through
the phone you only need to know the phone number.)

[VanguardLH]

Yep, well sort of, by using Microsoft's Your Phone app.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/your-phone/9nmpj99vjbwv
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Phone

However, it doesn't look like you yet have Windows 10. However, Your
Phone lets you run the Android apps on your Android smartphone.
However, to me, it is mirroring the notifications (in a different style
on the Windows PC) and the windows for some apps. Actually it looks
like the Your Phone app on the desktop is issuing command to the Android
phone to provide the features of some apps, not that Your Phone is
mirroring anything. It is not a true screen mirroring solution where
what you see on your desktop looks exactly like what you see on your
phone.

I think for screen mirroring, you need the Link to Windows app; see:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/connect-on-a-new-level-with-link-to-windows-bb7a82b6-7bcd-be1d-ccc8-dddb909bc07b
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.appmanager&hl=en_US&gl=US

I don't have a Samsung smartphone, so I have to look to other screen
mirroring tools. Microsoft is as clear as mud as to what their Your
Phone and Link to Windows apps do. What I see in videos is NOT screen
mirroring, but interfacing to the APIs available in the Android OS.

Some videos on the Your Phone app:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHe5XOWOYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w2kUmsdb74
and lots of other Microsoft Your Phone videos on Youtube.

[Linea Recta]

hi Frank,


thanks for pointing me to several suggestions!
i downloaded vysor and ill try installing it shortly.

i will let you know my findings in this news group.

regards,
mv

[Linea Recta]

"Linea Recta" <bleep...@bleep.invalid> schreef in bericht
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i tried installing vysor for windows on my laptop today.
after some time i got an install error window, with a save error log option.
i saved the log, but i cannot read it myself.

setup is simple i read somewhere.
i suppose thats true; im quickly done...


regards
mv

[Frank Slootweg]

Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
> "Linea Recta" <bleep...@bleep.invalid> schreef in bericht
> news:s4nht0$rjq$1...@dont-email.me...
> > hi Frank,
> >
> >
> > thanks for pointing me to several suggestions!
> > i downloaded vysor and ill try installing it shortly.
> >
> > i will let you know my findings in this news group.
> >
> > regards,
> > mv
>
>
>
>
> i tried installing vysor for windows on my laptop today.
> after some time i got an install error window, with a save error log option.
> i saved the log, but i cannot read it myself.

Why can't you read the log? Because it's still on the phone and you
can't read the small text on the phone? If so, can't you copy the log
(file) to your computer and read it there?

Another reason why you can't read the log?

> setup is simple i read somewhere.
> i suppose thats true; im quickly done...

If you can't get Vysor to work:

In his "Control Android from computer" thread, KenW also mentioned

'How to Mirror and Control Your Android Phone on Any Windows PC'
<https://www.howtogeek.com/430466/how-to-mirror-and-control-your-android-phone-on-any-windows-pc>
>

which is mainly about 'scrcpy' and is very positive about it. So that's
another one to try.

[Frank Slootweg]

Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
> "Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> schreef in bericht
> news:s4sh30...@ID-201911.user.individual.net...

> > Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
> >> "Linea Recta" <bleep...@bleep.invalid> schreef in bericht
> >> news:s4nht0$rjq$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> > hi Frank,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thanks for pointing me to several suggestions!
> >> > i downloaded vysor and ill try installing it shortly.
> >> >
> >> > i will let you know my findings in this news group.
> >> >
> >> > regards,
> >> > mv
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> i tried installing vysor for windows on my laptop today.
> >> after some time i got an install error window, with a save error log
> >> option.
> >> i saved the log, but i cannot read it myself.
> >
> > Why can't you read the log? Because it's still on the phone and you
> > can't read the small text on the phone? If so, can't you copy the log
> > (file) to your computer and read it there?
>
>

> ts too long for me.
> i have to stare too long into the white background, my eyes start watering
> and then i see even less.
> believe me you dont want to know more...
> besides that: i dont understand the contents.
> im putting the log in attachment.
>
> i can read the vysor web site barely.
> the text has very little contrast.
> i need high contrast and low back light.
>
> on visor site i could not find any email or support info.
> lets try to complete visor proyect, before going to other solutiions.
> thanks very much.

[N.B. It's probably best to first jump to the end of this post.]

It's hard to tell what goes wrong, without knowing exactly what
happens in which stage.

FWIW, I downloaded and ran (Open) the Vysor-win-3.1.4.exe file and
after a rather strange looking installation progress animation, I got a
window with 'VYSOR' at the top and according to Task Manager,
Vysor[.exe] was running.

(BTW, when VYSOR started, I got a popup from the Windows Firewall, so I
did not proceed (the '<admin_icon> Allow access' was greyed out anyway,
so somthing probably wants Aministrator permission as well).)

At *which* stage, installation, running VYSOR/Vysor.exe, other, did
you get problems and what happened on the screen?

Anyway, from looking at the start of the log, it seems it has problems
with your user folder or/and with the version (looks like a beta
version) or/and with the Vysor.exe file itself:

> 2021-04-09 13:22:01> Program: About to install to: C:\Users\Mark =
> Vos\AppData\Local\vysor

Beta?:

> 2021-04-09 13:22:04> CheckForUpdateImpl: Couldn't write out staging user =
> ID, this user probably shouldn't get beta anything: =

Something wrong with part of the path
C:\Users\Mark Vos\AppData\Local\vysor\packages\.betaId :

> System.IO.DirectoryNotFoundException: Kan een gedeelte van het pad =
> C:\Users\Mark Vos\AppData\Local\vysor\packages\.betaId niet vinden.
> bij System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String =
> maybeFullPath)

Vysor.exe not valid for this platform?:

> 2021-04-09 13:22:27> ApplyReleasesImpl: Couldn't run Squirrel hook, =
> continuing: C:\Users\Mark Vos\AppData\Local\vysor\app-3.1.4\Vysor.exe: =
> System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception (0x80004005): Het opgegeven =
> uitvoerbare bestand is geen geldige toepassing voor dit =
> besturingssysteem of platform.

And that's just the start.

Perhaps it's better to abandon the Windows program for the moment and
first try the browser version interface:

'Download Vysor'
<https://www.vysor.io/download>

click on 'Browser'

[...]

[Linea Recta]

"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> schreef in bericht

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i installed the browser version of vysor yesterday.
i now have a chrome extension of vysor.

i enabled usb debugging mode of android phone.
(ontwikkelaarsopties-usb foutopsporing)

connected phonento laptop with usb cable.
started the extention and got a window statng "no device connected"
tried different usb ports.

when i run samsung kies, it theres no problem connecting to phone.

[Frank Slootweg]

Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
[...]

> i installed the browser version of vysor yesterday.
> i now have a chrome extension of vysor.
>
> i enabled usb debugging mode of android phone.
> (ontwikkelaarsopties-usb foutopsporing)
>
> connected phonento laptop with usb cable.
> started the extention and got a window statng "no device connected"
> tried different usb ports.
>
> when i run samsung kies, it theres no problem connecting to phone.

Hmmm!

The Google Play webpage of the Vysor app on the phone says you have to
have ADB drivers on your Windows system, but the makeuseof.com article
does not mention that!

If you never installed ADB drivers on your Windows system, that is at
least something you'll have to do.

Details:

'Vysor - Android control on PC'
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.vysor>

<quote>

4) Windows users will need to install ADB Drivers:
http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/UniversalAdbDriverSetup.msi

</quote>

See also points 1) through 3). You - implicitly - mentioned 2) (enable
USB debugging) and 3) (Vysor Chrome app), but did you do step 1)
"Install Vysor for Android."?

HTH.

[Linea Recta]

"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> schreef in bericht

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> Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> i installed the browser version of vysor yesterday.
>> i now have a chrome extension of vysor.
>>
>> i enabled usb debugging mode of android phone.
>> (ontwikkelaarsopties-usb foutopsporing)
>>
>> connected phonento laptop with usb cable.
>> started the extention and got a window statng "no device connected"
>> tried different usb ports.
>>
>> when i run samsung kies, it theres no problem connecting to phone.
>
> Hmmm!
>
> The Google Play webpage of the Vysor app on the phone says you have to
> have ADB drivers on your Windows system, but the makeuseof.com article
> does not mention that!
>
> If you never installed ADB drivers on your Windows system, that is at
> least something you'll have to do.

i did that via the visor window i get after starting it.
only once i got a prompt on pc that visor needs "usb pairing" which i have
to authorise on phone. but the phone displays nothing.
this fiddling with developpers settings goes way above my head.
i was promised: quick and east setup".

>
> Details:
>
> 'Vysor - Android control on PC'
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.vysor>
>
> <quote>
>
> 4) Windows users will need to install ADB Drivers:
> http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/UniversalAdbDriverSetup.msi
>
> </quote>
>
> See also points 1) through 3). You - implicitly - mentioned 2) (enable
> USB debugging) and 3) (Vysor Chrome app), but did you do step 1)
> "Install Vysor for Android."?

yes found and installed the visor app from google play.
but it remains very unclear how to use it.
and i thought it was for using the desktop version...


mv

[VanguardLH]

Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:

> yes found and installed the visor app from google play. but it remains
> very unclear how to use it. and i thought it was for using the
> desktop version...

Since Developer Options cannot be activated without user intervention
(hitting the About->Version entry 7 times), no software can do that for
you. The USB Debugging Mode (available under Dev Options) is something
you have to enable, too. Enabling Dev Options and USB Debug Mode are
pretty easy: just click on some settings. Whether or not the Android
Debug Bridge (ADB) driver gets installed by the remoting software
installed on your PC is up to the program's installer.

Vysor doesn't have much on their web site for help, so I can't see if
their installer also includes installing an ADB driver. I remember
trialing them for a couple months, but decided to go with Airdroid plus
AirMirroring. Vysor seems more oriented toward business use (i.e.,
enterprise licensing) which adds support to provide help in using their
product. AirDroid (free) is also lureware, but seems a more pleasant
experience for their free version for end users. You still need the ADB
driver installed on your PC, but they have help articles, like:

https://help.airdroid.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005061394-How-to-run-Non-Root-setup-to-remote-control-Android-Phone-with-AirDroid-Personal-

Apparently rooted Android smartphones can eliminate some of the needed
clients and drivers, but do you really want to risk the stability and
usability of your smartphone by rooting it? And whose rooting scheme
are you going to use that you can trust?

[VanguardLH]

As I recall, the reason why I discontinued using remote access or
mirroring tools to see my Android phone on my desktop PC's monitor was
by getting a larger smartphone. I then didn't need a bigger desktop
monitor to more easily use the smartphone. I didn't want something as
big as an Android table (with the cellular radio to use it as a phone),
but a larger screen for the smartphone made using it less hard on my
eyes and easier targets to tap by my fingers.

[Linea Recta]

"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht

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> Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
>
>> yes found and installed the visor app from google play. but it remains
>> very unclear how to use it. and i thought it was for using the
>> desktop version...
>
> Since Developer Options cannot be activated without user intervention
> (hitting the About->Version entry 7 times), no software can do that for
> you.

but i did that on the phone yesterday.

The USB Debugging Mode (available under Dev Options) is something
> you have to enable, too. Enabling Dev Options and USB Debug Mode are
> pretty easy:

i have it checked too!
but there are loads of other options, which i didnt touch.
do i need any others?

just click on some settings. Whether or not the Android
> Debug Bridge (ADB) driver gets installed by the remoting software

you mean i have to install the drivers again?
(when teamviewer still worked, i didnt need no debugging mode or drivers)
what am i getting into...


sorry exausted my eyes
the remaining next time. thanks

[Frank Slootweg]

Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
> "Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> schreef in bericht
> news:s4vk5b...@ID-201911.user.individual.net...
> > Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> i installed the browser version of vysor yesterday.
> >> i now have a chrome extension of vysor.
> >>
> >> i enabled usb debugging mode of android phone.
> >> (ontwikkelaarsopties-usb foutopsporing)
> >>
> >> connected phonento laptop with usb cable.
> >> started the extention and got a window statng "no device connected"
> >> tried different usb ports.
> >>
> >> when i run samsung kies, it theres no problem connecting to phone.
> >
> > Hmmm!
> >
> > The Google Play webpage of the Vysor app on the phone says you have to
> > have ADB drivers on your Windows system, but the makeuseof.com article
> > does not mention that!
> >
> > If you never installed ADB drivers on your Windows system, that is at
> > least something you'll have to do.
>
>
> i did that via the visor window i get after starting it.

I'm quite sure Vysor (on Windows) installed the *Vysor app* on the
phone, not the *ADB drivers* on the Windows system.

> only once i got a prompt on pc that visor needs "usb pairing" which i have
> to authorise on phone. but the phone displays nothing.
> this fiddling with developpers settings goes way above my head.
> i was promised: quick and east setup".

USB pairing, enabling USB debugging via Developer Settings and
installing ADB drivers on Windows are all different things, which you
must do *all*.

So check again if you have done all the 4 steps listed on the Google
Play webpage mentioned below:

[Linea Recta]

right


at last i get a display of the phone on pc now.
i havent tested all functionality, but ill do that the comming days.
reaction is quite sluggish though.

how did i do it???
i ran the visor app on the phone.
connected to usb2 port.
used the option in the app to enable usb debugging. (which i done already in
advance manually!!)
i disabled debugging and enabled it again and gave ok for this computer.
now i get the phone mirrored on pc
but the mirror is not identical
on pc is another window with settings, but it is very badly readable for me!
for now im vrty exausted
continue next days.
thanks very much all people who helped with this subject!

mv

[VanguardLH]

Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:

> you mean i have to install the drivers again?

If you already installed the ADB driver on your PC, you don't have to do
it again.

> (when teamviewer still worked, i didnt need no debugging mode or drivers)
> what am i getting into...

TeamViewer doesn't connect the 2 devices (PC to smartphone) directly.
It uses clients on each device to allow remote access over the Web. To
directly connect, you use AirDroid, Vysor, or similar tools on each host
that are wired or wifi'ed to each other, NOT through the Web.
TeamViewer did remote access. The others do mirroring. Not the same.

[Linea Recta]

"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht

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But i AM using a web browser (chrome extension) on pc to use vysor.
whats confusing?

mv

[Linea Recta]

i still have some questions, but the most important one ill ask below.

it looks like after every reconnecting of the phone with usb cable, i have
to do the allow debugging trick over and over again.
this setting is not remembered?
once is acceptable, but everytime over again is very unpracticle.
using the program becomes a burden in stead of an aid.


if so, i have no more questions on vysor anymore...


thanks

mv

[VanguardLH]

That's not direct remote control. That's remote control over the Web.
AirDroid, Vysor, and others have that as an option. If you can stand
the jitter or lag of sending screen traffic over the Web, and you
somehow manage to always have a wifi hotspot or cellular data connection
to have Web access then that scheme will work. I thought you wanted
something reliable.

[VanguardLH]

Once you enable Developer Options, you cannot get rid of it except by
doing a factory reset of the phone. It's not a simple toggle on/off
setting. It's a toggle-on-and-always-on-thereafter action, and a reset
is the only way to get rid of Developer Options.

Or are you saying the USB Debugging Mode setting (under Developer
Options) is what is not sticking? USB Debug mode is enable-able, but it
is only active when a USB cable is actually plugged into the phone's USB
port (and the other end of the USB cable is also connected).

Since you mentioned in another thread that you are using an extension in
a web browser, why are you also trying to get direct USB mirroring to
work? With the web browser and extension, you are connecting the
devices via their Web access: phone uses wifi or cellular data to get to
the Internet to get over to the PC running the mirroring app that is
also connecting to the Web. If web connect is working for you, and
doesn't inflict a lot of lag, and you don't care about mirroring your
phone to your PC when either has no Web access, then just stick with web
access. You don't need USB Debug mode in the phone or the ADB driver
when connecting via Web.

The USB cable is used when you want the devices directly connected to
each other without relying on Web access or incurring the artifacts of
using the Web for endpoint connects. Pick the remoting method you like
best: Web or USB.

[Linea Recta]

"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht

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One of the good old versions of teamviewer (realy dont remember what version
number, because i didnt know what trouble was ahead) there was a setting to
connect by wifi, but only directly via my own nwtwork. it woked fine with
very little time lag.

if i had known wht trouble was ahead, i would never have updated TV, or the
android app or both, whatever cuses the problem.

[Linea Recta]

"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> schreef in bericht

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> Linea Recta <bleep...@bleep.invalid> wrote:
>
>> i still have some questions, but the most important one ill ask below.
>>
>> it looks like after every reconnecting of the phone with usb cable, i
>> have
>> to do the allow debugging trick over and over again.
>> this setting is not remembered?
>> once is acceptable, but everytime over again is very unpracticle.
>> using the program becomes a burden in stead of an aid.
>>
>> if so, i have no more questions on vysor anymore...
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> mv
>
> Once you enable Developer Options, you cannot get rid of it except by
> doing a factory reset of the phone. It's not a simple toggle on/off
> setting. It's a toggle-on-and-always-on-thereafter action, and a reset
> is the only way to get rid of Developer Options.
>
> Or are you saying the USB Debugging Mode setting (under Developer
> Options) is what is not sticking?

yes, thats what i was trying to explain!