Not enough space...

The Real Bev

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BLU Dash 4.5, Android 4.2.1. I've got enough space, honest. (92.89 MB
on "internal storage" and 1.15 GB on "phone". I've added and updated
previously with LESS space.

It tried to auto-update a mess of apps, all of which bombed out because
of not enough space. I tried updating individual apps, but "not enough
space". I deleted an app and tried to install it again, but "not enough
space". I emailed BLU, but I've seen similar complaints about phones
from other manufacturers.

Any ideas?

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TomR

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Oct 3, 2014, 7:24:40 PM10/3/14

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"The Real Bev" <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> BLU Dash 4.5, Android 4.2.1. I've got enough space, honest. (92.89 MB on
> "internal storage" and 1.15 GB on "phone". I've added and updated
> previously with LESS space.
>
> It tried to auto-update a mess of apps, all of which bombed out because of
> not enough space. I tried updating individual apps, but "not enough
> space". I deleted an app and tried to install it again, but "not enough
> space". I emailed BLU, but I've seen similar complaints about phones from
> other manufacturers.
>
> Any ideas?

I have the same problem with my phone -- updates fail due to "not enough
internal storage space".

I posted a thread about that starting on 9/18/2014 with the subject heading
of "Move apps to SD Card? Free up Internal Memory?"

My phone is an LG Optimus Q.
Model LGL55C
Android Version: 2.3.4
Software Version: LGL55CV3

The main option that people suggested was to "root" the phone, and then move
apps to the SD Card.

I didn't try that due to concerns that I wouldn't get the process correct
and it would "brick" my phone.

The Real Bev

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Oct 4, 2014, 12:25:00 AM10/4/14

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I'm sure that "reset to factory" would fix it, but that's way too drastic.

I was just on the phone with two google help ladies. They really tried,
but since I don't have a google phone they couldn't be of much help.
I'm shocked ("shocked, I tell you!!") that google has no android forum;
the only thing I could find was a German group, which I ignored. Ich
spreche kein Deutsch.

I'll try phoning BLU Monday. The backup and then reset to factory isn't
as painful as I had expected it to be, but it still wasn't pleasant.
Having to feed in all the passwords sucks rocks through a garden hose :-(

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The Real Bev

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Oct 5, 2014, 2:24:06 AM10/5/14

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Addendum -- I can sideload apps with no problem. Feed the playstore URL
into this website http://apps.evozi.com , download it to your computer,
copy it to your external sdcard and install it from there. Works
perfectly. I haven't tried to update an app yet, but it doesn't seem
unlikely that it would work.

I now have TED lectures in my pocket!

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lew

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Oct 5, 2014, 9:58:40 PM10/5/14

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Is there a way to free up the cache memory as "inactive" apps still
take up the memory; or even close all recently used apps?

In the old computer days, if allocation is at 4k clusters and an app
has only 500 bytes, all 4k is used to store the 500 bytes resulting
in "no more space"; also can run into allocation table or index
problems, even on xp, where the space is available, but no more
space to indicate where things will be resulting a "no more space"
problem. Might be similar but don't know how an android will do it.

The Real Bev

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Oct 6, 2014, 1:37:31 AM10/6/14

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Yes, there are a couple of apps that do that -- supposedly. It's
curious how many things start running without being asked :-(

> In the old computer days, if allocation is at 4k clusters and an app
> has only 500 bytes, all 4k is used to store the 500 bytes resulting
> in "no more space"; also can run into allocation table or index
> problems, even on xp, where the space is available, but no more
> space to indicate where things will be resulting a "no more space"
> problem. Might be similar but don't know how an android will do it.

It's probably the same, maybe smaller granules, but this is a sudden
weirdness that dropped out of the blue.

Still haven't figured out what to do about stuff I've purchased that
might need an update, as well as the $45 worth of play store gift
certificates I have. If it's really google's fault, they owe me. Kind
of fun to sue google in small claims court...

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Joe Beanfish

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Oct 6, 2014, 9:29:11 AM10/6/14

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On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:37:31 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>> Is there a way to free up the cache memory as "inactive" apps still
>> take up the memory; or even close all recently used apps?
>
> Yes, there are a couple of apps that do that -- supposedly. It's
> curious how many things start running without being asked :-(

Hold the Home button, a list of recent tasks will show up, as well as
a menu containing Task Manager. Click that. You can end programs from
there.

The Real Bev

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Oct 6, 2014, 11:18:49 AM10/6/14

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Yup, but what starts the stupid things automatically? Every windows
thing I ever installed asked if I wanted it to start on boot. NO,
NEVER. But stuff started anyway. Same annoyingness.

Are perhaps related to Joe Skifish?

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The Real Bev

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Oct 7, 2014, 12:23:58 AM10/7/14

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On 10/04/2014 11:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

> Addendum -- I can sideload apps with no problem. Feed the playstore URL
> into this website http://apps.evozi.com , download it to your computer,
> copy it to your external sdcard and install it from there. Works
> perfectly. I haven't tried to update an app yet, but it doesn't seem
> unlikely that it would work.

I posted this here Saturday. I also mentioned it in a google+ "circle"
which includes a reasonably high-level google staff member. Today I
can't download a single app at the site mentioned above. "Invalid or
Expired Token, Please refresh the page and try again"

Am I being overly suspicious or is this a little more than coincidence?

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TomR

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Oct 7, 2014, 12:51:54 AM10/7/14

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"The Real Bev" <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On 10/04/2014 11:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> Addendum -- I can sideload apps with no problem. Feed the playstore URL
>> into this website http://apps.evozi.com , download it to your computer,
>> copy it to your external sdcard and install it from there. Works
>> perfectly. I haven't tried to update an app yet, but it doesn't seem
>> unlikely that it would work.

> I posted this here Saturday. I also mentioned it in a google+ "circle"
> which includes a reasonably high-level google staff member. Today I can't
> download a single app at the site mentioned above. "Invalid or Expired
> Token, Please refresh the page and try again"
>
> Am I being overly suspicious or is this a little more than coincidence?

I just went to the website but I can't figure out how to download apps to my
computer. All that I can do is install apps to my phone. I don't see any
option for downloading to my computer.

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I think the problem is a firefox thing. I fired up chrome (which I
don't really like) and it downloaded fine from there. I installed the
Evozi extension, but it's not all that clear how it works -- it's
probably obvious if you use chrome regularly, but that's not me. The
website works well enough, so I'm happy.

But not about the paid apps, though :-( Maybe google will give me a
refund...

BLU got back to me. As I expected, they said to do a factory reset. I
wrote back that that's what I expected, but I was hoping for some actual
information about the problem. Sometimes, as back in the days of CRT
television sets, a good kick will solve a problem, but it's nice to know
the particulars...

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neck to a local bridge." -- Anon

The Real Bev

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Oct 7, 2014, 4:49:37 PM10/7/14

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I really hate the one-google-to-rule-them-all thing. I want different
gmail accounts for different purposes, but I can't have that.

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Oct 7, 2014, 4:50:57 PM10/7/14

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In article <543451E1...@gmail.com>, The Real Bev

<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I really hate the one-google-to-rule-them-all thing. I want different
> gmail accounts for different purposes, but I can't have that.

sure you can. many people have several.

John B. Slocomb

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Oct 7, 2014, 8:09:45 PM10/7/14

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:49:37 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/07/2014 12:45 PM, TomR wrote:
>> In news:q4f83a1t435n4hnl1...@4ax.com,
>> Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> typed:
>>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:14:12 -0400, TomR wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, so what does "Chrome Extension" mean?
>>
>>> I would assume that it means the same as this:
>>>
>>> Chrome -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
>>>
>>> Extension -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_extension
>>
>> Thanks. I think I checked that out before when I was trying to figure out
>> the apps.evozi.com website. And, I think that do use the Chrome Extension
>> feature I had to change my regular Gmail to a Google Plus account -- which I
>> don't like and do not want. I may have been wrong about that part, but when
>> I got to that part and it looked liked I would end up being converted to
>> Google Plus, I bailed out.
>
>I really hate the one-google-to-rule-them-all thing. I want different
>gmail accounts for different purposes, but I can't have that.

How so? I have separate google "gmail" accounts for different
purposes.
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The Real Bev

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Oct 7, 2014, 8:43:52 PM10/7/14

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And you can have them all open FOR WRITING or doing other stuff that
requires a login at the same time without logging out of one and into
the next one?

Editing a photo at the Picasa (google photos) site
Watching your subscribed youtube videos
Reading email AT THE SITE from five different accounts
Browsing Android apps before deciding which to actually install

You can do all of these simultaneously (sequentially, actually, but I'm
sure you understand)? What's the secret?

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Oct 7, 2014, 9:17:53 PM10/7/14

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In article <m121c6$dfn$1...@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev

<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>I really hate the one-google-to-rule-them-all thing. I want different
> >>gmail accounts for different purposes, but I can't have that.
> >
> > How so? I have separate google "gmail" accounts for different
> > purposes.
>
> And you can have them all open FOR WRITING or doing other stuff that
> requires a login at the same time without logging out of one and into
> the next one?

in an email app, sure.

in a browser, no, unless you use a browser whose privacy mode is
independent per window and not per browser. then it can keep things
separate. or, you can use multiple browsers.

John B. Slocomb

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Oct 7, 2014, 11:14:39 PM10/7/14

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:43:52 -0700, The Real Bev

Ah. Nope I don't do that :-) On the other hand one might wonder how it
is possible to edit a photo and watch a video at the same time?
Ambidextrous eyeballs :-?

But what I do have is a "multi-mail" account that all the other
accounts forward their mail to that I use for the hand phone. I don't
usually use a hand phone for e-mail but it does let me see what mail
has been received, and possibly answer it on the spot, as it were.
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Ralph Fox

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Oct 8, 2014, 3:27:02 AM10/8/14

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:47:40 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> On 10/07/2014 12:00 AM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:49:02 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/06/2014 10:58 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The big green button worked for me.
> >>> It downloaded the .apk file to my computer.
> >>
> >> Crap, somebody hates me :-(
> >
> > Scroll down the page to where you can read this:
> >
> > | How many new APK Evozi can generate per day?
> > |
> > | Currently we are able to generate around 1400 new apk files per
> > | day. Our account quota will normally run out quicky. If we run out
> > | of quota please use Chrome Extension to download your apk file
>
> I think the problem is a firefox thing. I fired up chrome (which I
> don't really like) and it downloaded fine from there.

I believe the quota thing is just between Google play and evozi, and
has nothing to do with your web browser. I used Firefox to download
from evozi, and it worked OK. It most likely depends on whether
evozi was over quota with Google play at the time you tried.

> I installed the
> Evozi extension, but it's not all that clear how it works -- it's
> probably obvious if you use chrome regularly, but that's not me. The
> website works well enough, so I'm happy.

I am currently not planning to try that extension. I don't have a
real need, and I use Firefox as my regular browser.

> But not about the paid apps, though :-( Maybe google will give me a
> refund...
>
> BLU got back to me. As I expected, they said to do a factory reset. I
> wrote back that that's what I expected, but I was hoping for some actual
> information about the problem. Sometimes, as back in the days of CRT
> television sets, a good kick will solve a problem, but it's nice to know
> the particulars...

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TomR

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In news:543451E1...@gmail.com,

The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> typed:

> On 10/07/2014 12:45 PM, TomR wrote:
>> In news:q4f83a1t435n4hnl1...@4ax.com,
>> Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> typed:
>>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:14:12 -0400, TomR wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, so what does "Chrome Extension" mean?
>>
>>> I would assume that it means the same as this:
>>>
>>> Chrome -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
>>>
>>> Extension -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_extension
>>
>> Thanks. I think I checked that out before when I was trying to
>> figure out the apps.evozi.com website. And, I think that do use the
>> Chrome Extension feature I had to change my regular Gmail to a
>> Google Plus account -- which I don't like and do not want. I may
>> have been wrong about that part, but when I got to that part and it
>> looked liked I would end up being converted to Google Plus, I bailed
>> out.

> I really hate the one-google-to-rule-them-all thing. I want different
> gmail accounts for different purposes, but I can't have that.

I hate it too, and somehow they had me steered into that once or twice
before. I took a while to figure it out, but ironically I think I Googled
for Opt Out of Google Plus or something like that, and I found out how to
get out of it. I had to make the change and then it said it takes a few
days for them to clear out all of the Google Plus crap. Now I am back to
having several different Gmail accounts and I make sure never to opt in for
any Google Plus crap.

The Real Bev

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Oct 8, 2014, 3:09:59 PM10/8/14

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<cough>sequentially<cough>

> But what I do have is a "multi-mail" account that all the other
> accounts forward their mail to that I use for the hand phone. I don't
> usually use a hand phone for e-mail but it does let me see what mail
> has been received, and possibly answer it on the spot, as it were.

I avoid dealing with mail at the website, but sometimes it's
unavoidable. The android play store is another problem -- Only one of
my accounts has the $45 in question, so if I erroneously buy something
from the wrong account I'd have to pay actual MONEY for it.

If somehow this makes me see more advertising, Google is wasting its
time -- adblock plus and a robust hosts file ensures that I rarely see
ANY ads. Even if I saw them it's wasting its time.

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John B. Slocomb

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Oct 8, 2014, 9:18:49 PM10/8/14

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:09:59 -0700, The Real Bev

True, but as I implied, I have a tremendous amount of problems with
watching a youtube movie and editing a photo at the same time :-)

>> But what I do have is a "multi-mail" account that all the other
>> accounts forward their mail to that I use for the hand phone. I don't
>> usually use a hand phone for e-mail but it does let me see what mail
>> has been received, and possibly answer it on the spot, as it were.
>
>I avoid dealing with mail at the website, but sometimes it's
>unavoidable. The android play store is another problem -- Only one of
>my accounts has the $45 in question, so if I erroneously buy something
>from the wrong account I'd have to pay actual MONEY for it.

I don't understand your comment. Are you saying that you use Firefox
or Chromium, or something similar, to do e-mail with? It seems awkward
to use a browser instead of a e-mail. Even the Android "E-mail" is
pretty useful.

I'm probably a troglodyte, but I've never purchased anything from
Google :-)

>If somehow this makes me see more advertising, Google is wasting its
>time -- adblock plus and a robust hosts file ensures that I rarely see
>ANY ads. Even if I saw them it's wasting its time.

No divertimenti on E-mail :-)
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The Real Bev

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Oct 9, 2014, 12:08:16 AM10/9/14

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Using any browser to read email at a website is painful. I download all
my email with thunderbird, leaving it in some accounts to be deleted
later by hand or deleting it as soon as I download it from others.
Android's 'email' facility is way better than the official gmail app --
which I'd be happy to delete if I could.

> I'm probably a troglodyte, but I've never purchased anything from
> Google :-)

Not from google. I bought two 99-cent ski/GPS apps and a keyboard which
I liked. I was going to download the pay version of co-pilot, but
playstore died before I decided to do it.

I might do that with my tablet and then sideload it to my phone...

>>If somehow this makes me see more advertising, Google is wasting its
>>time -- adblock plus and a robust hosts file ensures that I rarely see
>>ANY ads. Even if I saw them it's wasting its time.
>
> No divertimenti on E-mail :-)

I would consider them more annoyancei, but that's just me.

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Frank Slootweg

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Oct 9, 2014, 3:45:46 PM10/9/14

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The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BLU Dash 4.5, Android 4.2.1. I've got enough space, honest. (92.89 MB
> on "internal storage" and 1.15 GB on "phone". I've added and updated
> previously with LESS space.
>
> It tried to auto-update a mess of apps, all of which bombed out because
> of not enough space. I tried updating individual apps, but "not enough
> space". I deleted an app and tried to install it again, but "not enough
> space". I emailed BLU, but I've seen similar complaints about phones
> from other manufacturers.

Try to find a small app (app size, not the app's data size) and try to
manually update that.

FWIW, in my experience 92.89 MB free on 'Internal' storage is very/too
little. For big crapware like Chrome Browser, Facebook, etc, - which can
also not be moved to the SD card -, I need upto 200MB free. I now have
179MB free and am just limping along.

I tried all kind of tricks - most of them well known or/and reported
here -, but what was not so obvious and really helped me was trimming
down System apps which you don't need/use, i.e. apps which came with the
device and cannot be uninstalled. With 'trimming down', I mean this:

In (Settings -> APPS->) 'Manage apps' -> 'ALL' tab/page, select a
System app which you don't need/use and then do:

- 'Clear cache', 'Clear data', 'Uninstall updates'.

- After this, the 'App info' page for the app should have a 'Disable'
button. Tap that.

- This will move the disable app to the *bottom* of the app list (with a
'Disabled' marking).

Disabling the app is needed, to prevent update notifications for the
updates you've just uninstalled.

In my case 'Hangouts' went from 31MB to 1.1MB (now again called
'Talk') and Twitter went from 21.2MB to 1.4MB. I.e. only these two freed
up a precious 50MB.

Hope this helps.

The Real Bev

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Oct 10, 2014, 3:44:29 PM10/10/14

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BTDT along with deleting enough apps to more than make up for the
piddling amount of space that one of the apps (including one of the ones
I just deleted) would occupy. Since I can sideload, I conclude it's a
problem with the play store app, which, of course, can't be updated
through play store. I've requested that both BLU and google email me
the requisite .apk files so I can try sideloading before I do a factory
restore, but no response yet.

If anybody knows of a good backup program (that I can sideload!) that
will save all my apps and their data -- repeat: AND THEIR DATA -- to the
external SD card, I'd be really happy to know what it is. Last time I
did a factory reset dealing with passwords was a real pain. I keep an
increasingly large text file with all my passwords on my computer, but
it's still a nuisance for those of us with fat fingers.

BTW, I had something like 500 crap messages in my 'public' gmail account
which I wanted to delete from my phone. Google 'help' told me I
couldn't -- I could only delete them from the website via computer.
Cheesy, since the 'email' function works infinitely better for ridding
oneself of extraneous junk. Why is DELETE ALL forbidden by the gmail app?

I suppose I could log in via firefox and do the deletion from my phone
that way, but that seems needlessly cumbersome.

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Oct 10, 2014, 4:56:36 PM10/10/14

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The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> If anybody knows of a good backup program (that I can sideload!) that
> will save all my apps and their data -- repeat: AND THEIR DATA -- to the
> external SD card, I'd be really happy to know what it is. Last time I
> did a factory reset dealing with passwords was a real pain. I keep an
> increasingly large text file with all my passwords on my computer, but
> it's still a nuisance for those of us with fat fingers.

Didn't you phone come with such a backup program? If not, very strange!
BTW, my phone's Backup app is only 2.72MB, so not big at all.

You may also want to have a look on the website of your phone's
manufacturer, to see if there is some kind of companion program for your
phone which runs on a PC (probably Windows only or Windows and Mac).

For my phone, a Huawei (Y300), Huawei has such a program called
HiSuite. That can backup apps and their data to the (USB or WiFi
connected) PC and restore them from the PC. It can also install, update
and uninstall apps (but I haven't used those functions (yet), so I do
not know how the perform). With this setup, there is only a small (2MB)
deamon app on the phone, so sideloading the backup program is not an
issue.

BTW, the (built-in) FAQ of HiSuite seems to imply that it can be used
with other (non-Huawei) phones, because it talks about the PC-side
drivers for other phone manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony,
and others. It also notes that some phones have the PC-side driver on a
virtual CD-ROM in the phone. This is also the case for Huawei itself,
i.e. you (USB) connect the phone to the PC (in "USB mass storage" mode)
and then the PC has access to a virtual CD-ROM drive which has the
PC-side driver for the companion program. HiSuite is a free download, so
if all else fail, you might want to try that approach.

Hope this helps.

The Real Bev

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Oct 10, 2014, 6:41:41 PM10/10/14

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On 10/10/2014 01:56 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> If anybody knows of a good backup program (that I can sideload!) that
>> will save all my apps and their data -- repeat: AND THEIR DATA -- to the
>> external SD card, I'd be really happy to know what it is. Last time I
>> did a factory reset dealing with passwords was a real pain. I keep an
>> increasingly large text file with all my passwords on my computer, but
>> it's still a nuisance for those of us with fat fingers.
>
> Didn't you phone come with such a backup program? If not, very strange!
> BTW, my phone's Backup app is only 2.72MB, so not big at all.

Yes it did, but I don't trust it. I have no idea what it backs up and
it's way smaller than my downloaded apps and their associated data
files. Moreover, it just seems to back up to the INTERNAL sd card,
which is absolutely useless AND the only data it backs up is contacts,
messages, pictures, calendars, music and bookmarks -- all of which are
absolutely useless Clickfree doesn't do compression, which is fine with
me.

> You may also want to have a look on the website of your phone's
> manufacturer, to see if there is some kind of companion program for your
> phone which runs on a PC (probably Windows only or Windows and Mac).

Nope. The site is heavy on flashiness and the specs are hard to get at
-- mostly guesswork. No special software that I saw anywhere.

> For my phone, a Huawei (Y300), Huawei has such a program called
> HiSuite. That can backup apps and their data to the (USB or WiFi
> connected) PC and restore them from the PC. It can also install, update
> and uninstall apps (but I haven't used those functions (yet), so I do
> not know how the perform). With this setup, there is only a small (2MB)
> deamon app on the phone, so sideloading the backup program is not an
> issue.
>
> BTW, the (built-in) FAQ of HiSuite seems to imply that it can be used
> with other (non-Huawei) phones, because it talks about the PC-side
> drivers for other phone manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony,
> and others. It also notes that some phones have the PC-side driver on a
> virtual CD-ROM in the phone. This is also the case for Huawei itself,
> i.e. you (USB) connect the phone to the PC (in "USB mass storage" mode)
> and then the PC has access to a virtual CD-ROM drive which has the
> PC-side driver for the companion program. HiSuite is a free download, so
> if all else fail, you might want to try that approach.

Will do, and I'll report back.

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lew

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Oct 10, 2014, 11:42:57 PM10/10/14

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On 2014-10-10, The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/2014 01:56 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> If anybody knows of a good backup program (that I can sideload!) that
>>> will save all my apps and their data -- repeat: AND THEIR DATA -- to the
>>> external SD card, I'd be really happy to know what it is. Last time I
>>> did a factory reset dealing with passwords was a real pain. I keep an
>>> increasingly large text file with all my passwords on my computer, but
>>> it's still a nuisance for those of us with fat fingers.
>>
>> Didn't you phone come with such a backup program? If not, very strange!
>> BTW, my phone's Backup app is only 2.72MB, so not big at all.
>
> Yes it did, but I don't trust it. I have no idea what it backs up and
> it's way smaller than my downloaded apps and their associated data
> files. Moreover, it just seems to back up to the INTERNAL sd card,
> which is absolutely useless AND the only data it backs up is contacts,
> messages, pictures, calendars, music and bookmarks -- all of which are
> absolutely useless Clickfree doesn't do compression, which is fine with
> me.
>
>> You may also want to have a look on the website of your phone's
>> manufacturer, to see if there is some kind of companion program for your
>> phone which runs on a PC (probably Windows only or Windows and Mac).
>
> Nope. The site is heavy on flashiness and the specs are hard to get at
> -- mostly guesswork. No special software that I saw anywhere.
>

..................................

>
> Will do, and I'll report back.
>

You might checkout "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678239"
as it has a list of backup programs. The nandroid seems to be
the one that is suggested for the various devices as the backup
to use prior one "flashes" one of the custom roms; haven't tried
it even tho I did flash custom roms for 3 tablets.

However, nandroid needs one to do a manual backup of the /efs
and /misc directories to the external sdcard.

Supposedly the adb version also does "about" everything but
is done to a computer.

The "http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=backup"
also has some backup apps & threads by various people.

good luck.

The Real Bev

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Oct 11, 2014, 12:41:42 AM10/11/14

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Top-posting because I think this is important. I found a replacement
for the play store which -- so far, anyway -- is perfectly happy to
update my apps without lying about not enough space.
http://market.1mobile.com/?from=new_version

Play Store still thinks I need updating and don't have enough space.
Google may not be fully evil, but it's pretty much not nice in this
respect..

I'm sure there are other similar sites, but I found this one off the
page for downloading Irfanview, which I used last time I had a windows
machine. Gotta trust somebody :-)

Installed on my windows machine, but I couldn't find an .apk to
download. I gave up and deleted the windows program(s).

> You might checkout "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678239"
> as it has a list of backup programs. The nandroid seems to be
> the one that is suggested for the various devices as the backup
> to use prior one "flashes" one of the custom roms; haven't tried
> it even tho I did flash custom roms for 3 tablets.
>
> However, nandroid needs one to do a manual backup of the /efs
> and /misc directories to the external sdcard.

Tomorrow...

Now that I have a workaround for the play store, I have to decide
whether $45 is enough payment for the pain of having to recover from a
factory reset.

> Supposedly the adb version also does "about" everything but
> is done to a computer.
>
> The "http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=backup"
> also has some backup apps & threads by various people.
>
> good luck.

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