poco F1 and Windows 7

[Dan]

Hello all,

I own a Poco F1 and my Windows 7 64 ultimate does not recognise the
phone when I plug it into my USB 3.0 port.
How do I get Win 7 64 to recognise my new phone?

[123456789]

I had the same problem with a different device using a different version
of Android and plugged into a Windows 10 computer. This solved it for
me. IF the directions still seem to fit, give it a try. Can't hurt.

On the phone: Settings > apps > 3 dots > tic show system > in both the
EXTERNAL STORAGE and the MEDIA STORAGE apps: tic storage and then clear
both DATA and the CACHE > reboot.

[VanguardLH]

Did you go into the Android's settings and however it was customized for
the Poco to check the USB port was enabled for more than just charging?
On some smartphones, you have to configure what the USB port will do.

Did you enable Developer Options ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=android%20enable%20developer%20mode

and therein enable USB Debug Mode?

https://www.google.com/search?q=android+usb+debug+mode

Did you install the ADB (Android Debug Bridge) driver on your PC?

https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+adb+driver

[Dan]

Hello,

which driver should I use?

This one is made by Intel
https://software.intel.com/en-us/xdk/docs/installing-android-debug-bridge-adb-usb-driver-on-windows
or
https://adb.clockworkmod.com/

[VanguardLH]

Dan wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Dan wrote:
>>
>>> I own a Poco F1 and my Windows 7 64 ultimate does not recognise the
>>> phone when I plug it into my USB 3.0 port. How do I get Win 7 64 to
>>> recognise my new phone?
>>
>> Did you go into the Android's settings and however it was customized
>> for the Poco to check the USB port was enabled for more than just
>> charging? On some smartphones, you have to configure what the USB
>> port will do.
>>
>> Did you enable Developer Options ...
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=android%20enable%20developer%20mode
>>
>> and therein enable USB Debug Mode?
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=android+usb+debug+mode
>>
>> Did you install the ADB (Android Debug Bridge) driver on your PC?
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+adb+driver
>

> which driver should I use?
>
> This one is made by Intel
> https://software.intel.com/en-us/xdk/docs/installing-android-debug-bridge-adb-usb-driver-on-windows
> or
> https://adb.clockworkmod.com/

I had an ADB driver a long time ago. I used the one from the maker of
my phone (Samsung). However, from some additional reading, there
doesn't seem to be much difference among them.

https://www.google.com/search?q=xiamoi%20poco%20adb%20driver

Xiaomi is a cutrate manufacturer and their web site shows that. A lot
of fluff and little content. No ADB download from their site
(https://www.mi.com/in/poco-f1/). In fact, didn't see a link to a
downloads page at all. You could try their online chat to see if they
answer and tell you where to find their ADB driver, if they have one, or
who else's to use. Remember that they might be half a world away from
you, so may have to call late at night or the wee morn hours for them to
be at work. They also have an e-mail link. Because I couldn't find a
downloads page, I don't know that they have their own ADB driver. There
are lots of sites claiming to have the "official" Xiaomi ADB driver.
Well, that means they are claiming Xiaomi actually has one, so ask
Xiaomi where to get their's.

Before submitting this message, I had been searching on "xiaomi
pocophone adb driver" and getting a lot of garbage or unoffical sites.
On a whim, I changed the Google search to just "xiaomi adb driver" and
found https://in.c.mi.com/thread-784616-1-0.html. While this posted in
Xiaomi's own forum, I still don't trust it. The links point to files at
Mediafire instead of Xiaomi's own file server. Since they are a nominal
manufacturer, maybe they don't even setup their own file server and
leech off freebie file services. Chat with Xiaomi and see if they are
indeed using Mediafire to host their downloads.

Also check the USB config in the phone. MTP should work. Your phone
might be set to PTP. I saw one Youtuber having to switch to MIDI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR4fBbcB_AU
timemark 1:15

[Dan]

Thank you so very much. I wonder why a major manufacturer
(4th biggest seller of phones in the world) does not have a proper
support system.

The Intel ADB driver, I got directly from Intel server. Should I try
that?

[VanguardLH]

Before installing any software, have you yet revisited the settings in
the phone to check how the USB port is configured (dev options & USB
debug mode, if the port is configured for charging only or for data
transfer, PTP vs MTP vs MIDI)? You could install the driver and still
not have the phone show up on your computer via USB if the phone isn't
configured properly.

Before installing any driver, make sure to save an image backup of the
OS partition to make sure you can get back to that state. Uninstalls
and System Restore don't always work.

Before installing Intel's driver, contact Xiaomi via online chat or
e-mail, as suggested, to see what they recommend.

[Dan]

When I try on Oreo 8.1 miui 10.0.4, I get "log into miui 10.0.4
account, to enable USB Debug Mode, I get asked "enter your password
for your miui account". I do not use miui account.

[VanguardLH]

Dan wrote:

> When I try on Oreo 8.1 miui 10.0.4, I get "log into miui 10.0.4
> account, to enable USB Debug Mode, I get asked "enter your password
> for your miui account". I do not use miui account.

On several smartphones running various versions of Android, I've NEVER
had to log into any account to:

- Enable Developer options.
- Enable USB Debug Mode.

However, I've never had a smartphone made (and a customized Android OS)
from Xiaomi. Those functions don't (or shouldn't) rely on any online or
local account. I was unsure what the "miui 10.0.4" means as a qualifier
to "Oreo 8.1". Had to do some online searching.

http://en.miui.com/
"Xiaomi MIUI Official Global Site. MIUI is a customized Android ROM
developed by Xiaomi for smartphones and tablets. MIUI Forum offers ROM
downloads for ..."

Oh oh. Although the <title> tag for that page says "Xiaomi MIUI
Official Global Site", I couldn't find any information on that the site
that it is actually a Xiaomi site. None of the pages show "Copyright by
Xiaomi" or anything else pointing back to Xiaomi. A WhoIS on miui.com
shows a hidden registration: the actual domain registrant is not
listing, just some private domain registration service (eName); however,
xiaomi.com uses the same registrar to hide their domain registration. I
did find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI

So, it looks like custom ROM code from Xiaomi. However, that means any
help from others is most likely based on standard OS navigation for
Android as it comes from Google or with just a little customization by a
phone maker to brand that phone as theirs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTQYl_d-FGg

That shows the author unlocking Developer Options by simply repeatedly
tapping on the MIUI setting. If you're getting some demand to connect
to a MIUI account then that is something Xiaomi added as a requirement
in their customized ROM code. Since USB Debug Mode is (or should be)
under Developer Options, looks like Xiaomi demands you have an account
with them to get at the dev options, like USB Debug Mode. The Youtube
author didn't show any demand to connect to a MIUI account. Could be he
already saved that account on the phone or his phone doesn't demand an
account. I've watched other Youtube videos on enabled Developer Options
on the Pocophone, and none of them were prompted to login into an
account.

Did you yet check the settings to see if the USB port is configured for
charge-only or data transfer and if transfer mode was PTP, MTP, or MIUI?
When I first saw MIUI as a data transfer mode, I didn't know what it
meant. With their custom ROM, maybe you have to use MIUI transfer mode
to get that phone working with a USB connect to your PC.

[Dan]

On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 14:20:49 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:

>Did you yet check the settings to see if the USB port is configured for
>charge-only or data transfer and if transfer mode was PTP, MTP, or MIUI?


"Did you yet check the settings to see if the USB port is configured
for
charge-only or data transfer and if transfer mode was PTP, MTP, or
MIUI?"

How do I do that?

[VanguardLH]

Dan wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Did you yet check the settings to see if the USB port is configured
>> for charge-only or data transfer and if transfer mode was PTP, MTP,
>> or MIUI?
>

> How do I do that?

Xiaomi doesn't provide online manuals, so I can't go RTFM for you.
Every phone makers wants to brand their phones by customizing the OS and
varying their bundled apps, so different brands and even models within
the same brand will differ in the OS settings navigation. I don't own a
Pocophone (and likely never will since I want quality over cheap price).
No matter what menu nav I give on my phone, you have to dig around on
your phone to see if there is an equivalent setting.

You can see what other Pocophone users say on how to change the USB
transfer mode at Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pocophone+ptp+mtp+miui
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pocophone+usb+settings

Since Pocophone's primary market is India, get ready trying to
understand the Indianized British (too often very muddle) or Hindi in
the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wujF_7Ns2Y
(timemark 1:20)

That one is okay. When the phone is plugged into the charger, the
author shows the notification presented for that state of the USB port.
Notice it says "Tap for more options". Notice the dialog that appears
show how to to use the USB port. My guess is you have the USB port
configured to only do charging. I won't do data transfers when in
charge-only mode.

Youtube is very handy to figure out things. Use enough search terms in
the criteria to help focus on what you want to find. I suspect that
Youtube, owned by Google, uses the same search syntax as does Google's
search engine.

[nospam]

In article <1150ot0zjt5y$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH>
wrote:

> Xiaomi doesn't provide online manuals, so I can't go RTFM for you.

<https://xiaomi-mi.com/home/user-manuals/>

[Dan]

OK. I will look into this. Thanks a lot.