Mergery : .pinercS problem? What folders exist where??
Beartooth
track of.
I've been tending my mail mostly under ssh of late. Being on the machine
with all the aliases this morning, I decided to try using the one for pine
with the -p switch. It got me into the IMAP account, where I commanded
"pine" -- but that immediately denied the existence of at least three
incoming folders, which I know exist there from my ssh-ing, and asked
whether to create them to filter things into. I told it to, and it failed,
citing lack of permission.
So I told it q, exited, went back in with ssh, commanded "pine" again --
and sure enough, it sorted things into folders.
Does this mean the alias is getting into the wrong one of the five
different .pinerc folders there? Or what?
Btw, in case it's relevant, there's a new incoming-folder problem. I added
another incoming folder and an archive for it (one that existed as a
non-incoming), set an archive folder for it, moved the contents of the
existing folder into the archive, and thought I deleted the existing
folder. But now it shows up in the incoming collection and in both sets of
regular folders, Folder-Collection <titan.lserv.com IMAP> *and*
Folder-Collection <Mail>; so does its archive, novalug.old -- and both
have all the messages. (novalug is the Northern Virginia LUG's list, and
my chief source of instruction for things computerish in general. It's a
busy list ...)
Do I really want to have Folder-Collection
<titan.lserv.com IMAP> *and* Folder-Collection <Mail> at all? (Maybe we're
just waiting on passfile and #move creation for the clean-up ...)
What's more, the existing filter (which works better than most of my
filters) still puts all the novalug messages into the regular novalug
folders, instead of into the new incoming one. Should I just go delete the
regular, non-incoming folders, or is it worse than that?
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Remember I have little idea what I am talking about.
NM Public
I have an idea what the problem is, but before I can help you fix
it, can you do this.
1] ssh to titan
2] run pine on titan
3] go the the setup > config screen by typing
MSC
4] make sure that this feature is set
[X] expose-hidden-config
5] quit & restart pine
6] go to the setup > config screen by typing
MSC
7] use ^W to search for the section titled
Normally hidden configuration options
8] copy & paste the specification for one of the incoming-folders
that is causing you a problem into a reply to this message.
After I see this, I hope I will be able to see what the problem
is and what you need to do to fix it.
Thank you,
Nancy
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Beartooth
> 7] use ^W to search for the section titled
>
> Normally hidden configuration options
>
> 8] copy & paste the specification for one of the incoming-folders
> that is causing you a problem into a reply to this message.
I can't, because the one causing the problem, called novalug, doesn't show
up in the list ...
--- [ Normally hidden configuration options ] ---
incoming-folders = VA VA
bblx bblx
ACFG ACFG
ARTEMIS ARTEMIS
VCDL VCDL
Adel-inbox {mail.adelphia.net/pop3/us... bbgA {titan.lserv.com/novalidate-cert... novalug novalug
folder-collections = "titan.lserv.com IMAP" {titan.lserv.c... Mail mail/[]
[....]
> After I see this, I hope I will be able to see what the problem
> is and what you need to do to fix it.
--
NM Public
your incoming-archive-folders. Can you do this:
1] ssh to titan and run pine on titan
2] type MSC to go to the Setup Config screen
3] copy and paste an incoming-archive-folders setting that is
causing problems. post it to a followup to this message.
4] make sure that this feature is NOT checked
[ ] auto-move-read-msgs
This is temporary for debugging purposes.
5] quit pine on titan
6] run 'pine' on your local Linux system, the one that has the
'pine -p ...' alias
7] try to open your various incoming-folders and see if you still
have the problem. I'm hoping that with auto-move-read-msgs unset,
you can avoid the problems (for now).
After I learn the results of the above, I may have a solution.
Thanks!
Beartooth
> OK, I'm thinking that the problem you are having has to do with
> your incoming-archive-folders. Can you do this:
>
> 1] ssh to titan and run pine on titan
>
> 2] type MSC to go to the Setup Config screen
>
> 3] copy and paste an incoming-archive-folders setting that is
> causing problems. post it to a followup to this message.
It still shows novalug novalug.old -- as well as this :
--- [ Normally hidden configuration options ] ---
incoming-folders = VA VA
bblx bblx
ACFG ACFG
ARTEMIS ARTEMIS
VCDL VCDL
Adel-inbox {mail.adelphia.net/pop3/us... bbgA {titan.lserv.com/novalidate-cert... novalug novalug
folder-collections = "titan.lserv.com IMAP" {titan.lserv.c... Mail mail/[]
news-collections = <No Value Set>
address-book = .addressbook
"Remote Address Book" {titan.lserv.co... "Lserv Address Book" {titan.lserv.com...global-address-book = <No Value Set>
> 4] make sure that this feature is NOT checked
>
> [ ] auto-move-read-msgs
>
> This is temporary for debugging purposes.
I unchecked it.
> 5] quit pine on titan
>
> 6] run 'pine' on your local Linux system, the one that has the
> 'pine -p ...' alias
>
> 7] try to open your various incoming-folders and see if you still
> have the problem. I'm hoping that with auto-move-read-msgs unset,
> you can avoid the problems (for now).
I get :
Folder-Collection <Incoming-Folders>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
INBOX bblx ARTEMIS Adel-inbox novalug
VA ACFG VCDL bbgA
[...]
[Can't open folder bblx: no such folder]
and similarly for all the incoming except Adel-inbox and VA (a very
low-traffic virus-alert list which I run).
Later : after an interruption, I find the list screen hung,
saying "[Processing filter "P9" <\> ]." (P9 is one of my filters -- on the
IMAP machine, where filters are normally blindingly fast.
And it doesn't want to respond to ^C not to Q.
> After I learn the results of the above, I may have a solution.
>
> Thanks!
> Nancy
--
Beartooth
> Later : after an interruption, I find the list screen hung,
> saying "[Processing filter "P9" <\> ]." (P9 is one of my filters -- on the
> IMAP machine, where filters are normally blindingly fast.
>
> And it doesn't want to respond to ^C not to Q.
After posting that, and much more pounding of ^C and Q, and even acouple
tries with <enter>~.<enter> (in case pine might be using some form of
ssh), I eventually got the most infuriating message in all of pine, the
one that makes you wait forever and then some, and snatch one second, to
tell it to break the connection.
Of course it took me a couple tries to catch the window to shout
"YES, DAMMIT!!" (I always wish I could.) Is there any excuse whatever for
those accursed windows, instead of just letting you closing it on sight??