Alpine Crash with newsrc on remote server

[somefa...@no.news.is.good.news]

Hi,

I want to switch to alpine for reading news messages. As long as I use a
local newsrc file, everything is ok, but as I access my news from
different computers, I want to save the newsrc file on the server.

I tried to use the same syntax as with my mail boxes, but alpine crashes
while saving the newsrc file.

I think(!), the relevant path in the crash file is:

22:55:41.685215: IMAP 22:55:41 6/3 mm_log error: Unable to create news state {myserver/user=me}/home/me/Mail/config/newsrc-
22:55:41.685223: news.server.com
22:55:41.685236: q_status_message(Unable to create news state {myserver/user=me}/home/me/Mail/config/newsrc-news.server.com
22:55:41.685241: )

Is this a bug in the file handling or is this server side storage not
allowed for newsrc files?

Thanks
Andreas

[Eduardo Chappa]

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, somefa...@no.news.is.good.news wrote:

:) I want to switch to alpine for reading news messages. As long as I use
:) a local newsrc file, everything is ok, but as I access my news from
:) different computers, I want to save the newsrc file on the server.

As far as I know, Alpine does not support remote .newsrc files. Can you
tell me how you configured this to make Alpine crash?

--
Eduardo
http://staff.washington.edu/chappa/alpine/

[somefa...@no.news.is.good.news]

On Tuesday, 03. June 2008, 16:43, Eduardo Chappa (as EC) wrote:

>EC: On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, somefa...@no.news.is.good.news wrote:
>EC:
>EC: :) I want to switch to alpine for reading news messages. As long as
>EC: :) I use a local newsrc file, everything is ok, but as I access my
>EC: :) news from different computers, I want to save the newsrc file on
>EC: :) the server.
>EC:
>EC: As far as I know, Alpine does not support remote .newsrc files. Can
>EC: you tell me how you configured this to make Alpine crash?

M S C

Newsrc Path = {myserver/user=me}/home/me/Mail/config/newsrc

If I subscribe a new newsgroup, alpine crashes. I can select the
newsgroup and according to the crash file, alpine crashes on saving the
file.

Thanks for any help,
Andreas

[Steve Hubert]

There is certainly a bug, alpine shouldn't crash. However, what you are
doing is not a supported feature. There is no provision for storing your
newsrc on a remote system.

Having said that, if your IMAP server runs the UW IMAP server software,
then it has a special feature that can be used to accomplish what you are
trying to do since the server knows how to forward using NNTP to a news
server. For a news collection you can try something like

news-collections= Nickname {imapserver/options}{newsserver/nntp}#news.[]

or from the Setup/Collections screen

Nickname : nickname
Server : imapserver/options
Path : {newsserver/nntp}#news.
View :

Or an incoming folder might look like

incoming-folders=Nickname {imapserver/options}{newsserver/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine

Steve

[somefa...@no.news.is.good.news]

On Wednesday, 04. June 2008, 08:53, Steve Hubert (as SH) wrote:

> SH: > Newsrc Path = {myserver/user=me}/home/me/Mail/config/newsrc
> SH: >
> SH: > If I subscribe a new newsgroup, alpine crashes. I can select the
> SH: > newsgroup and according to the crash file, alpine crashes on
> SH: > saving the file.
> SH:
> SH: There is certainly a bug, alpine shouldn't crash. However, what
> SH: you are doing is not a supported feature. There is no provision
> SH: for storing your newsrc on a remote system.

Any possibility for this feature to make it on the feature list of the
next version?

> SH: Having said that, if your IMAP server runs the UW IMAP server
> SH: software, then it has a special feature that can be used to
> SH: accomplish what you are trying to do since the server knows how to
> SH: forward using NNTP to a news server. For a news collection you can
> SH: try something like

Indeed, I do use imap-2007a1 on my server.

> SH: news-collections= Nickname {imapserver/options}{newsserver/nntp}#news.[]
> SH:
> SH: or from the Setup/Collections screen
> SH:
> SH: Nickname : nickname
> SH: Server : imapserver/options
> SH: Path : {newsserver/nntp}#news.
> SH: View :

I tried this version and I'm able to access news, but there is no
improvement on the newsrc side. I cannot use #news.comp.mail.pine and if
I use #news. and subscribe to comp.mail.pine on one computer, I don't
see the news group on another.

Additionally, I cannot subscribe to any newsgroup running alpine on the
server. I get [Error subscribing to "comp.mail.pine"] and no information
in the .pine-debug1 file

> SH: Or an incoming folder might look like
> SH:
> SH: incoming-folders=Nickname
> SH: {imapserver/options}{newsserver/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine

Didn't try this yet, as I don't want my newsgroups in the incoming
folder collection. I might test it if it helps you to debug any strange
behavior.

Thanks,
Andreas