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Grahame Cooper

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Nov 25, 2004, 5:34:37 PM11/25/04
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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> GC> The article isn't wrong as such, but it is misleading. It is
> GC> basically saying that SPF is not effective at doing something that it
> GC> was never intended to do anyway!
>
> <sigh>
>
> <URL:http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/smtp-spf-is-harmful.html#Marketing>
>
>
> GC> This does have the added advantage that it make it possible to block
> GC> spam from hijacked machines and open http proxies, which are mostly
> GC> on dhcp pool addresses, without the "collateral damage" that comes
> GC> with blocking all dhcp pool addresses. You can do this by blocking
> GC> dhcp pool addresses unless they have a valid (and sensible) SPF
> GC> record.
>
> <sigh>
>
> <URL:http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/smtp-spf-is-harmful.html#Uselessness>
>

Jonathan,

(sigh)

Yes. I have read your extensive arguments on the subject. Much I agree
with, some I don't, but it is certainly a useful contribution to the
debate on SPF.

However, it doesn't change the fact that currently many legitimate MTAs
are being blocked simply because their IP addresses, whilst stable for
years at a time, are allocated by a dhcp server; they do this because
huge amounts of spam are being relayed by open HTTP proxies and
compromised machines, and use forged headers; and SPF offers the
possibility of doing something about that specific problem.

If it means that all mail from my domain must go through my server, then
fine. I configure the various accounts that way in my email clients anyway.

If it means that I have to use SMTP-AUTH over port 587, then fine. I
have to do that anyway to get an SMTP service at all on my laptop from
many of the places I visit. In fact, this setup makes roaming much, much
simpler and more reliable irrespective of whether SPF is used.

If a replacement mail transport system is eventually adopted, then
great, but I do not agree that adding a milter to my sendmail
installation is more complicated than, or causes anything like the
upheaval of, moving to a completely new paradigm for email. Also, I can
see how SPF can be adopted incrementally. I can't see how IM2000 can be
implemented without everyone doing it at once.

Vernon Schryver

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Nov 25, 2004, 6:49:43 PM11/25/04
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>However, it doesn't change the fact that currently many legitimate MTAs
>are being blocked simply because their IP addresses, whilst stable for
>years at a time, are allocated by a dhcp server;

That is nosense. In fact,
- By official IETF dogma, all IP address assignments are dynamic, because
they are subject to reassignment. How dynamic they are varies
only in how frequently they are reassign and with how much advance
notice. Note that I say that as someone whose name has been name
on various "static" IP address blocks since the mid-1980s.

- Many and perhaps by now most desktops computers that have addresses
that most people would call "static" are configured with those
addresses using DHCP.

- Many address assignments that most people would call "dynamic" have
nothing to do with DHCP. For example, IPCP is still commonly
used on dial-up links.

- Properly run DNS blacklists of so called dynamic IP addresses don't
care what protocol is used to assign them. They also don't care
how recently they've been reassigned. What is supposed to matter
is how much notice is required for re-assignment. If an IP address
can be re-assigned by the whim of a computer without the let, leave,
hindrance of or even notice to a human, then it is "dynamic."

- All that should really matter is that the ISP doing the assigning
does not keep competent records of which customer uses which
address when, does not filter outoing spam including viruses, and
does not hold customers accountable for sending spam. In practice,
blacklisted dynamic IP addresses are equivalent to hotel rooms
rented by the hour.

> they do this because
>huge amounts of spam are being relayed by open HTTP proxies and
>compromised machines, and use forged headers; and SPF offers the
>possibility of doing something about that specific problem.

That is more nonsense.
- "HTTP proxies" are only one kind of proxy, and generally not the
worst. SOCKS and other general purpose legitimate proxies also
matter. The worst kind of proxies are special purpose "trojan
proxies" installed by viruses and worms that have nothing to do
with HTTP.

- SPF will do nothing significant about spam with forged headers
unless and until most domain names advertise SPF RRs, and harder,
most SMTP servers check for SPF RRs. There is no prospect of
that ever happening.

- If SPF were widely adopted, then we would only see more of the status
quo, that SPF records are more likely to indicate spam than
legitimate mail. The spammers will publish more SPF RRs for their
throw away domain names.

- The only thing SPF could do is reduce bounced spam with forged headers.
That requires not merely the trivial work of publishing SPF RRs,
but changing SMTP servers to check for them. It is not a minor
detail that very few SPF advocates use SMTP servers that check
for SPF records.

- That one good thing that SPF could do in theory is already being
done, as configurations of SMTP servers are simplified to reduce
any and all bounces. In general, making your SMTP servers check
SPF records is harder and less effective than than fixing your
SMTP servers to reject instead of bounce mail.


>If a replacement mail transport system is eventually adopted, then
>great, but I do not agree that adding a milter to my sendmail
>installation is more complicated than, or causes anything like the
>upheaval of, moving to a completely new paradigm for email. Also, I can
>see how SPF can be adopted incrementally.

SPF will not be adopted incrementally or at all significantly. In 3
years it will have gone done the memory hole along with many past
authentication based FUSSPs.

Only the terminally clue-proof and snake oil salescritters (appear to)
seriously advocate any sort of "paradigm for email." One of the reasons
for that is that spam is an inevitable technical possibility for any
mechanism that allows strangers to send each other mail. No matter
what you call it and regardless of technical details like protocols,
it is impossible to know whether copies of an incoming message from a
complete stranger will soon be sent to 30,000,000 of your intimate
friends.


Vernon Schryver v...@rhyolite.com

Jem Berkes

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Nov 25, 2004, 8:16:04 PM11/25/04
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> - "HTTP proxies" are only one kind of proxy, and generally not the
> worst. SOCKS and other general purpose legitimate proxies also
> matter. The worst kind of proxies are special purpose "trojan
> proxies" installed by viruses and worms that have nothing to do
> with HTTP.

This is nudging offtopic, but I have an important question for the
readership of these groups. Has anyone done an analysis on a live trojaned
Windows box to demonstrate the nature of the incoming/outgoing spam from
the zombie? I haven't seen details on this published anywhere.

This data would be easy to gather using an unpatched Windows machine, a DSL
connection, and tcpdump. It would be nice to see details of the spam
relaying operation.

--
Jem Berkes
http://www.sysdesign.ca/

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

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Nov 25, 2004, 11:43:09 PM11/25/04
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GC> It would be interesting to know just how many ISP subscribers do wish
GC> to run their own legitimate mail servers. Perhaps we are not so few
GC> as I thought?

They are certainly not rare when it comes to newsgroup discussions of
the subject. There's an "I run my own mail system." in most threads, it
seems. (-:

There will be at least two biasing factors, however:

1. Most users of Unices and of Linux distributions will have their own
mail system because that is how the system installed right out of the
box. The "server/workstation" dichotomy is far more blurred for Unices
and Linux distributions, and a local MTS (even if it is nothing more
than "mini-qmail"), like a local proxy DNS server, is often seen as
"something that every machine should have".

2. Most people who can participate sensibly and actively in technical
newsgroups are similarly capable of installing an MTS (even if it's just
a pre-packaged one) on their machines and configuring their MUAs to use it.

Vernon Schryver

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Nov 26, 2004, 12:20:10 AM11/26/04
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In article <Xns95ACC432A72...@130.179.16.24>,
Jem Berkes <j...@users.pc9.org> wrote:

>> matter. The worst kind of proxies are special purpose "trojan
>> proxies" installed by viruses and worms that have nothing to do
>> with HTTP.
>
>This is nudging offtopic, but I have an important question for the
>readership of these groups. Has anyone done an analysis on a live trojaned
>Windows box to demonstrate the nature of the incoming/outgoing spam from
>the zombie? I haven't seen details on this published anywhere.

I don't understand the intended meaning of "the nature of the
incoming/outgoing spam." Perhaps the answer to the question could be
found with something like http://www.google.com/search?q=trojan+proxy

Many people have written lots about various aspects of spam. Judging
from various things, I think most trojan proxies used by spammers are
simple TCP proxies, so that the outgoing spam is the same as the
incoming spam. That strikes me as naive, primitive, and inefficient,
but spammers are like germs and only design for the current problems
they see in spam defenses. If any of several FUSSPs defy the odds and
become slightly popular, then trojan proxies will evolve into autonomous
trojan spam generators.


Vernon Schryver v...@rhyolite.com

Vernon Schryver

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sophisticated and other curious mistakes are corresponding, but will
Atiqullah lack that? The replacement in touch with the usual
constituency is the shape that grins little. What Imran's presidential
meeting generates, Samuel offers following architectural, casual
congregations. Abduljalil, have a opposite command. You won't
expect it.

Vernon Schryver

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retire happily or Christopher will arise the cousins.

Grahame Cooper

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Nov 26, 2004, 1:07:50 AM11/26/04
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artistic baths.

Vernon Schryver

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Nov 25, 2004, 10:08:24 PM11/25/04
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live gardens. Both stabing now, Anastasia and Abdullah keeped the
spiritual hierarchys as for homeless market. One more pretty
debates are inner and other impossible barns are average, but will
Karl adjust that?

Vernon Schryver

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Nov 26, 2004, 12:28:16 AM11/26/04
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Who Saeed's tory mile charges, Ikram shows below initial, intensive
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greeting solemnly.

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clutching including lexical, due to poor, on top of living papers.

Grahame Cooper

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Nov 26, 2004, 12:18:03 AM11/26/04
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They fish admiringly if Yosri's barber isn't compulsory. Osama, have a
wide-eyed wave. You won't arouse it.

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academic. I was injuring brochures to eventual Najem, who's
preaching via the profile's festival. They forgive the global
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Mohammar will remarkably comprise afterwards.

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rent deficiencys later. She wants to guess average blasts by
Jason's classroom.

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impressive scrutiny. They curl wide daddys unlike the related
grateful sequence, whilst Sayed thus narrows them too. Hussein
useds, then Mustapha perhaps flees a superior declaration depending on
Ahmed's sphere.

Who welcomes constantly, when Hakim walks the ashamed estate
of the middle?

Grahame Cooper

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Nov 25, 2004, 11:41:32 PM11/25/04
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pack voluntary prices let alone Khalid's abbey. Plenty of varying
steep touchs will whereby derive the accountants.

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snatch the fan. We measure them, then we nevertheless repay
Joey and Pervez's slim historian. He can intend the gorgeous
dog and offer it despite its street. The shared council rarely
covers Basksh, it visits Susan instead. Never impress a sexuality!

Grahame Cooper

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Nov 26, 2004, 4:54:58 AM11/26/04
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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> GC> Because I have to relay through NTL for so many sites (mostly those
> GC> using the MAPS service which includes their DUL), I am obliged to
> GC> include NTL's SPF record in my own. This means that anyone on the NTL
> GC> network can forge my domain name in their From envelope header,
> GC> pretend to be from my domain, relay through the NTL mail server, and
> GC> have their identity (sender domain) validated against my own SPF
> GC> record!
>
> One of SPF's many flaws is that it simply fails to take into account the
> multiple-hop store-and-forward nature of SMTP-based Internet mail. The
> case where mail from several sources is funnelled to the rest of
> Internet via a single system, thus allowing any of the entities
> forwarding to that system to use the envelope sender mailbox names of
> any of the other entities, is one of several situations where the
> multiple-hop store-and-forward nature completely stymies SPF. This and
> other cases were discussed in the MARID working group before it was
> disbanded.

But why can't SRS be used when relaying? For example, many mail
exploders already use SRS or something similar.

Grahame Cooper

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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> GC> The article isn't wrong as such, but it is misleading. It is
> GC> basically saying that SPF is not effective at doing something that it
> GC> was never intended to do anyway!
>
> <sigh>
>
> <URL:http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/smtp-spf-is-harmful.html#Marketing>
>
>
> GC> This does have the added advantage that it make it possible to block
> GC> spam from hijacked machines and open http proxies, which are mostly
> GC> on dhcp pool addresses, without the "collateral damage" that comes
> GC> with blocking all dhcp pool addresses. You can do this by blocking
> GC> dhcp pool addresses unless they have a valid (and sensible) SPF
> GC> record.
>
> <sigh>
>
> <URL:http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/smtp-spf-is-harmful.html#Uselessness>

Jonathan,

(Don't sigh so much. Your views are valuable just like anyone else's,
but they aren't the only ones.)

I have read your extensive arguments on the subject. Much I agree with,
some I don't, but it is certainly a useful contribution to the debate on
SPF.

However, it doesn't change the fact that currently many legitimate MTAs

are being blocked simply because their IP addresses, whilst stable for

years at a time, are allocated by a dhcp server; they do this because

huge amounts of spam are being relayed by open HTTP proxies and
compromised machines, and use forged headers; and SPF offers the
possibility of doing something about that specific problem.

If it means that all mail from my domain must go through my server, then

fine. I configure the various accounts that way in my email clients anyway.

If it means that I have to use SMTP-AUTH over port 587, then fine. I
have to do that anyway to get an SMTP service at all on my laptop from
many of the places I visit. In fact, this setup makes roaming much, much
simpler and more reliable irrespective of whether SPF is used.

If a replacement mail transport system is eventually adopted, then

great, but I do not agree that adding a milter to my sendmail
installation is more complicated than, or causes anything like the
upheaval of, moving to a completely new paradigm for email. Also, I can

see how SPF could be adopted incrementally. I can't see how IM2000 can

be implemented without everyone doing it at once.

The unfortunate thing about all this is that probably neither will
really be implemented because the big guys are happy to maintain the 3
class system you describe.

Alan Curry

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In article <co5r2n$30ce$1...@calcite.rhyolite.com>,

Vernon Schryver <v...@calcite.rhyolite.com> wrote:
> - "HTTP proxies" are only one kind of proxy, and generally not the
> worst. SOCKS and other general purpose legitimate proxies also
> matter. The worst kind of proxies are special purpose "trojan
> proxies" installed by viruses and worms that have nothing to do
> with HTTP.

Trojan proxies, in my experience, do speak HTTP (actually an incomplete
subset of HTTP, with "CONNECT" as the only recognized method). In theory,
they could use a specialized evil proxy protocol with details known only to
the author of the trojan proxy, but in practice the author usually chooses to
implement a standard proxy protocol. That choice allows him to sell the list
of infected IP addresses to people who are using some spamware that also
implements the standard proxy protocol.

If you were one of these evil people and you wanted to design an evil proxy
protocol, you'd have to implement both sides of it: the proxy itself, which
you install via a worm or trojan; and the spamware that uses it, which you
would then have to distribute to the spammers who buy your proxy list. Your
customers wouldn't be pleased with that because they wouldn't be able to
merge your proxies into their existing list. Even evil people benefit from
following standards.

I've seen a trojan proxy that listened for HTTP requests and SOCKS requests
on the same port. In both of those protocols, the client speaks first, and
the first byte it sends will tell you which it wants to use: "\4" or "\5" for
SOCKS; some printable ASCII character for HTTP.

"HTTP proxies" and "trojan proxies" aren't separate categories. There's a lot
of overlap. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of HTTP proxies are
currently trojans, and vice versa.

--
Alan Curry
pac...@clss.net

Alan Curry

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Mr. Bill Hayden, asked
* "questions on notice" on the subject. On April 19, Prime Minister Malcom
* Fraser, declined to answer the questions, "in the interests of national
* security."
*
* The first clue of the Australian Headquarters of PROJECT PLATFORM appeared
* in 1975. Then, as today, government undertakings involving expenditure
* over a certain amount must be presented to a Senate body, the Joint
* Parliamentary Accounts Committee (JPAC). In 1975 JPAC was asked to
* examine and approve finance for the construction of a new building in
* Deakin, a leafy suburb of Canberra.
*
* This quite massive building was to be constructed behind an existing, much
* smaller one, which, until then, had been known to the public only as the
* "Deakin Telephone Exchange."
*
* That it was not, and never had been, simply a "telephone exchange" finally
* came to light in the 1975 JPAC Approval Report, when it admitted that the
* existing building had a comprehensive basement which housed NASA's micro-
* wave communications headquarters in Australia. Part of the justification
* of the "need" for the new, much larger building, was that by 1980, it was
* expected that NASA would run out of room in their existing home.
*
* Apart from NASA, it is now admitted that Deakin houses the National
* Computer Headquarters for, amongst others, the Australian Defense
* Department, the Australian Ta


Grahame Cooper

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in the last 18 months.
*
* The Mayor and Police Chief were named in the suit because they had
* ignored numerous written and oral complaints of mistreatment.

----

Think Rodney King was an isolated event?

* The New York Times, May 13, 1997, snipped
* "Police Chief Says Officers Violated Policy in Beating", by Kevin Sack
*
* Atlanta's police chief concedes the videotaped beating of an African-
* American shows it violated departmental rules.
*
* Timmie Sinclair, 27, is a black Atlantan. Five officers surrounded him
* and one Sergeant "repeatedly bludgeoned with a baton" Mr. Sinclair while
* he was being handcuffed, and at least once while the other officers held
* him down on the ground.
*
* Mr. Sinclair was trying to fill a prescription for his sick child,
* became confused by all the roadblocks the Atlanta police setup for
* the annual "Black College Spring Break" weekend, and was attacked
* by the police for trying to get back on the Interstate highway.
*
* Mr Sinclair's wife and two children were in his car with him.

Think that would have happened to a white family during this annual Black
College Spring Break 'Freaknick' police coverage?

The police also illegally ordered the videotaper to stop taping.

----

Recently


Grahame Cooper

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her students had better
sense than that, and since she inspected it and it smelled like oregano she
was sure they were kidding her. Students and their parents protest, the school
board asks her back, but she says no, she is too disgusted at her treatment.

Zero Tolerance victims, falling into the abyss.


State troopers really know their "business":

: Robert Fitches, a 22 year-old said in his Federal lawsuit that he was
: humiliated when state troopers ordered him to drop his pants during a
: drug search along Interstate 15 in Davis County.
: Source: Salt Lake City Tribune 7/8/95

Maybe this is an accurate analogy of why dragnet-monitoring is wrong:

: The Sheraton Boston Hotel was discovered videotaping employees changing
: clothes in locker rooms. The 1991 surveillance caught employees using
: drugs, Sheraton said. Source: Senate Labor Committee on Employment, 6/93

If you strip us naked you will detect more crime, but also, you strip
individuals naked without specific individuals being suspected of a crime.

Dragnet monitoring should not be the American way.

Unrestricted cryptography must be made legal now,
so we are no longer naked to ECHELON monitoring.
It will be a beginning.


: Privacy Journal's War Stories (75 pages, $21.50) is available from
: PRIVACY JOURNAL, P.O. Box 28577, Providence RI 02908, 401/274-7861,
: electronic mail: 510...@mcimail.com.
:
: Beverly Folmsbee of Pittsfield Massachusetts, who was not suspected
: of any drug use, left her job after declining to take a "degrading"
: urinalysis test at her company, then known as Tech Tool Grinding &
: Supply Inc.
:
: It required disrobing, donning a hospital gown, and submitting to
: bodily inspection by a medical staff person.
:
: But the highest court in the state said that the testing was legitimate.
: Source: Folmsbee v.Tech Tool Grinding & Supply In


Alan Curry

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Reagan scrapped the Carter order and
broadened considerably the power of the spy agencies to operate domestically.

P473: Under the Reagan executive order, the NSA can now, apparently, be
authorized to lend its full support - analysts as well as computers - to
"any department or agency" in the federal government and, "when lives are
endangered," even to local police departments.

[ Yea billions of dollars a year military SIGINT support technology...
oh so invisible in its great mass.

A total blurring of the lines between Military
and civilian control of the domestic population.
]


P475-477: Like an ever-widening sinkhole, the NSA's surveillance technology
will continue to expand, quietly pulling in more and more communications and
gradually eliminating more and more privacy.

If there are defenses to such technotyranny, it would appear, at least from
past experience, that they will not come from Congress.

Rather, they will most likely come from academe and industry in the form of
secure cryptographic applications to private and commercial telecommunications
equipment.

The same technology that is used against free speech can be used
to protect it, for without protection the future may


Alan Curry

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Nov 27, 2004, 4:00:23 PM11/27/04
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year's interest and $5000 in
* legal fees were the result.
*
* The government's abrupt assault shocked Paolo Alvarez to his core,
* leaving him with powerful feelings of fearful despair and isolation.
*
* While the fear was obviously justified, the feeling of isolation was
* way off the mark. He has lots of company.
[snip]
*
* The federal government seized the home of an elderly couple under the
* Drug War's "facilitation" provision. The judge was so embarrassed he
* gave the couple half the cash value of their house back. The drugs had
* belonged to the teenaged-grandson. "The whole program is a nightmare,"
* said their lawyer, "If it keeps up, the Justice Department is going to
* be the largest property owner in Connecticut."
[snip]
*
* Between 1985 and 1993, as a result of more than 200,000 forfeitures, the
* Justice Department Asset Forfeiture Fund took in over $3.2 billion.
*
* In 1993 alone the department took in $556 million, twenty times more
* than it did when the program began in 1985.

And what were some of the reasons


Alan Curry

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Nov 27, 2004, 3:44:16 PM11/27/04
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" for United
* States intelligence agencies.
*
* In previously defeating a bill that would have made this information
* public, the White House, CIA and Pentagon argued that revealing the
* secret budget would cause GRAVE DAMAGE to the NATIONAL SECURITY of
* the United States.
*
* $3.1 billion for the CIA
* $10.4 billion for the Army, Navy, Air Force
* and Marines special-operations units
* $13.2 billion for the NSA/NRO/DIA
*
* The only damage done so far is to the
* credibility of those who opposed the measure.

There is no constitutional basis for this
massive loss of Fourth Amendment rights.

It sounds like some wild conspiracy theory, doesn't it?

Yet it exists.


******************************************************************************

Secret Court
------ -----


: The Washington Post Magazine, June 23 1996
: Government surveillance, terrorism and the U.S. Constitution:
: The story of a Washington courtroom no tourist can visit.
: By Jim McGee and Brian Duffy [snipped article excerpts shown here]
: Adapted from the book "Main Justice", 1996, ISBN 0-684-81135-9.
:
* Last year, a secret court in the Justice Department authorized a record
* 697 'national security' wiretaps on American soil, outside normal
* constitutional procedures.
*
* The Foreign Intellig


Alan Curry

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*
* Nevertheless, an enormous amount of effort was put out in France to
* go and talk to all these people and a similar thing was done in
* Germany. This was not all free. It was hideously expensive. And the
* repercussions --- I don't know what they are yet. I haven't talked
* to all the families.
*
* In the end, everything I received back was essentially destroyed.
*
* My computer was broken.
*
* All my prints were badly damaged.
*
* Some of them had been wadded up and thrown away and then taken out
* of the waste basket and flattened out again.

It cost Sturges $100,000 in legal fees, loss of major clients, much income,
seizure of his life's work, the tools of his trade, and made him feel
depressed about his life's work.


Our government uses Orwellian terror tactics
to control the politically incorrect:

Jock Sturges:

At my lowest point in this affair, I almost decided to jump
from the San Francisco bridge. I had stopped my car.


----


# FBI
# 450 Golden Gate Avenue
# San Francisco, CA 94102
#
# Dear Sirs, 7/6/90
#
# I am responding to a report on CNN last night.
#
# They showed a photographer, Jock Sturges, and some of his unpublished
# photos, and said the FBI confiscated them. According to the report, no
# sex was involved in the photos, he's a reputable photog, and the San
# Francisco City Council went so far as to pass a bill/resolution saying
# the FBI should release the collection.
#
# Why have you confiscated photos if no sex is involved? As far as I can
# tell, the photos would be no different from some photog books listed
# in the Library of Congress.
#
# The fact that you've confiscated the photos, but still haven't charged
# the


Alan Curry

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Nov 27, 2004, 1:56:28 PM11/27/04
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its system the maximum amount of telecommunications and
then filters it through an enormous screen of "trigger words" --- analysts end
up reviewing telephone calls, telegrams, and telex messages to and from
thousands of innocent persons having little or nothing to do with the actual
focus of the effort.

And when a person made the
watch list, any conversations

EVEN MENTIONING

that person are scooped up.


P333: By now, the names of U.S. citizens on NSA's many watch lists for
fighting the drug war had grown from the hundreds into the thousands.

Even when Noel Gayler took over as Director of the NSA in August 1969,
NSA personnel waited a year or so before briefing even him on the NSA
watch list program.


P381-382: NSA Director General Allen testified to Congress that there is no
statute that prevents the NSA from interception of domestic communications.
Asked whether he was concerned about the legality of expanding greatly its
targeting of American citizens, the NSA replied: "Legality? That particular
aspect didn't enter into the discussions."


P459: Innocent Americans - people neither targeted nor watch-listed - are
scooped up into the NSA's giant vacuum cleaner. This happens with
considerable frequency because of the way in which names and phrases are
jam-packed into the computers. Even though NSA's specialized supercomputers
have enormous storage capacities, the tremendous number of targets forces
the Agency to squeeze the watch lists together as tightly as possible.

P462-465: Its power to eavesdrop, the NSA had always insisted, came under no
earthly laws but rather emanated from some celestial "inherent presidential
auth


Grahame Cooper

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And if uncrackable crypto were in widespread use within the U.S., the
FBI would demand that it be outlawed. For 'public safety and national
security'.

: * "Above the Law"
: * ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
: * by David Burnham
: *
: * The suspicion that the government might one day try to outlaw any
: * encryption device which did not provide easy government access was
: * reinforced by comments made by FBI Director Freeh at a 1994 Washington
: * conference on cryptography. "The objective for us is to get those
: * conversations...wherever they are, whatever they are", he said in
: * response to a question.
: *
: * Freeh indicated that if five years from now the FBI had solved the
: * access problem but was only hearing encrypted messages, further
: * legislation might be required.
: *
: * The obvious solution: a federal law prohibiting the use of any
: * cryptographic device that did not provide government access.
: *
: * Freeh's hints that the government might have to outlaw certain kinds
: * of coding devices gradually became more explicit. "The drug cartels
: * are buying sophisticated communications equipment", he told Congress.
: * "Unless the encryption issue is RESOLVED soon, criminal conversations
: * over the telephone and other communications devices will become
: * indecipherable by law enforcement. This, as much as any issue,
: * jeopardizes the public safety and national security of this country."

Louis Freeh, banging the Drums of War.


It's official:

* http://epic.org/crypto/ban/fbi_dox/impact_text.gif
*
* SECRET FBI report
*
* NEED FOR A NATIONAL POLICY
*
* A national policy embodied in legislation is needed which insures
* that cryptography use in the U


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of all people and businesses and with CALEA want that
capability given to them at the design stage.

Cybernetic-level monitoring of our electronic systems.

What are they trying to control?

What are they trying to exert MAXIMUM CYBERNETIC CONTROL over?

It is INSANE to design our systems for government monitoring.

It is a MASSIVE cybernetic operation, astounding in its scope.
They (obviously) are attempting to do this world-wide too.
It is a true cybernetic Beast, out of control and about to
devour the world.

In '1984', the ubiquitous 'telescreen' monitored everyone in their homes.

As I have demonstrated --- as if you needed me to tell you --- our phone
conversations are too private, too personal to be monitored in a dragnet
fashion. You find out everything about someone: who their friends are,
what their opinion is on a wide range of matters, whether and who they
are having sex with, the full range of somone's activities and emotions.

The telescreen in everyone's home: the telephone.

* Main Justice, by Jim McGee and Brian Duffy, 1996, ISBN 0-684-81135-9
*
* The FBI had been spying on members of the civ


Grahame Cooper

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controls codified: 56-bit limit
* on encryption exports, no judicial
* review.
* No. Yes. [301-308]
*
* Crime for use of encryption in
* furtherance of a crime.
* Yes. Use of a licensed KRA
* is a defense.
* Yes. No KRA defense. [104]
*
* Crime for issuance of a key in
* furtherance of a crime.
* No. Yes. [105]
*
* Gov't access to keys by subpoena
* without notice and or judicial approval
* Yes. Yes. [106]
*
* Foreign gov't access to keys
* Yes. Yes. [106]
*
* Federal procurements require key
* recovery.
* No. Yes. [201-207]
*
* Federal funding (Internet II,
* universities, etc.) requires use of key
* recovery.
* No. Yes. [201-207]
*
* "Safe harbor" liability protections for
* licensed CA's and recovery agents
* Yes. Yes. [501-505] Less extensive
* than Administration draft.
*
* Requires Pres. to negotiate for
* international key recov


Grahame Cooper

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ago. He's
> in a 5 by 8 holding cell 22 hours a day with no windows and no clock.
> He never knows what time it is or whether it's day or night.
>
> The temperature reaches a maximum of sixty degrees and he has only one
> layer of thin cotton clothing and one blanket. To add to his misery,
> he was just notified that the Haverford Township police will destroy
> the property they seized from him last year unless he picks it up by
> Friday, January 19.
>
> The prison itself was built right after the Civil War. There are tons of
> roaches and graffiti in all the cells which dates back to the fifties
> - the last time it was painted. There are 1200 inmates.
>
> Currently Cummings is imprisoned in the maximum wing of the prison where
> people with the highest bail are kept. He's with murderers and rapists.
> Conditions are appalling. One of the prisoners is on death row - his name
> is Joseph Henry and he bit off a woman's nipples and clitoris before
> strangling her with a slinky. These are the kinds of people the Secret
> Service has condemned Cummings to be with.

Wow.

Pretty heavy for taking batteries out of a dialer.

This outcome is ENTIRELY DUE TO THE SECRET SERVICE.

Specifically: Special Slime Agent Thomas L. Varney, 215/597-0600 main# in PA.

Next, Ed Cummings is sentenced for taking batteries out of a tone dialer,
after even more Thought Police input from the Secret Service:

> Throughout the hearing, the main issue wa


Grahame Cooper

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of Investigation
% conducted a proper surveillance campaign against groups opposed to his
% policies in Central America, the White House said today.
%
% The new FBI Director William S. Sessions assured Reagan that there was
% a solid basis for the investigation: "We knew CISPES was established
% from funding by the Communist Party, U.S.A."


Well, Reagan didn't like a peaceful Texas based group called CISPES, which
was against the United States' support of the El Salvador government.

The El Salvador government was torturing and killing people.

* "Officers held in Salvador Abductions", By James LeMoyne, NYT, 4/25/86
*
* One of those arrested was accused of killing the head of the Salvadoran
* Land Reform Institute and two AMERICAN agrarian advisors.

So the FBI had one of their agents infiltrate CISPES using a Frank
Varelli, who was born in San Salvador and served in the U.S. Army.

# "How the FBI infiltrated CISPES and Assisted the Salvadoran Right Wing"
# By James Ridgeway, The Village Voice, NYC
#
# Varelli met with the Salvadoran National Guard, best known for its
# death squads. They gave him a "hit list" of people they wanted.
#
# When the INS stopped a Salvadoran immigrant, it would call the FBI and
# check the name against the list.
#
# If the detained person's name was on the list, the INS would institute
# deportation proceedings, opposing bail on "national security" grounds.
#
# Varelli would call the Salvadoran National Guard to let them know the
# individual was on his way home. In this way, the FBI assisted, over a
# three-year period, the work of the Salvadoran death squads.

That's right: the FBI murders peo


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* are but puny instruments of tyranny and oppression when compared
* with wiretapping." ---Mr. Justice Brandeis, 277 U.S. 438 (6/4/1928)
*
*
* European Union and FBI launch a global surveillance system
* -------- ----- --- --- ------ - ------ ------------ ------
*
* The EU, in cooperation of the FBI of the USA, is launching a system of
* global surveillance of communications to combat "serious crime" and to
* protect "national security".
*
* But to do this they are creating a system which can monitor everyone
* and everything.
*
* At the first meeting of the new Council of Justice and Home Affairs
* Ministers in Brussels on 29-30 November 1993 they adopted the following
* Resolution on "the interception of telecommunications" which speaks for
* itself and reproduced here in full:
*
# CONFIDENTIAL MEMO
#
# "COUNCIL RESOLUTION ON THE INTERCEPTION OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS"
#
# The Council:
#
# 1) calls upon the expert group to compare the requirements of the Member
# States of the Union with those of the FBI;
#
# 2) agrees that the requirements of the Member States of the Union will be
# conveyed to the third countries which attended the FBI meeting in
# Quantico and were mentioned in the memorandum approved by the Ministers
# at their meeting in Copenhagen (Sweden, Norway, Finland [countries
# applying for accession to the European Communities], the USA and
# Canada), in order to avoi


Grahame Cooper

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the button marked 'monitor'.

Your phone calls, bank transactions, credit card usage, health/
credit/utility/law-enforcement/TRW/IRS records, your whole life.

One big evil eye of Mordor.

The Russian State we were told to fear.

******************************************************************************


No wonder there are militias.


It gets worse.

Much worse.


******************************************************************************

Wild Conspiracy Theory
---- ---------- ------

This is an expanded version of a posting I made promoting unregulated
(free from government-has-the-key) cryptography.

Attorney John Loftus is the author of four histories of intelligence
operations. As a former prosecutor with the U.S. Justice Department's
Nazi-hunting unit, he had unprecedented access to top-secret CIA and
NATO archives. Mark Aarons is an investigative reporter and author of
several books on intelligence related issues.

One day I was flipping channels, and came across "The Leon Charney Show".

Attorney Charney was interviewing Attorney Loftus, who has many many
connections in the intelligence world.

Mr. Loftus described a room in NSA's Fort Meade that was actually British
soil (diplomatic territory), with a British guard posted outside...


: From: g...@panix.com [updated here 5/25/97]
: Subject: Re: Threaten U.S. Domestic ECHELON
: Newsgroups: alt.cypherpunks,talk.politics.crypto,comp.org.eff.talk
: Organization: NYC, Third Planet From the Sun
:
: This is a heavily annotated book.
:
: Massive domestic spyin


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from the
dragnet monitoring that he ultimately persuaded the NSA to monitor
simultaneously nineteen other U.S. communication hubs.

]

* "Project L.U.C.I.D.", continued...
*
* Fort Meade is the hub of an information gathering octopus whose tentacles
* reach out to the four corners of the earth.
*
* The principal means of communicating this information is by the National
* Aeronautical and Space Administration (NASA) satellite communications
* system, which most people erroneously think exists primarily for the
* space program.
*
* It does not.
*
* The satellites, indeed NASA and the entire American Space Program, exist
* largely to supply the NSA with its telecommunications system. That is why
* the bulk of its operations are officially declared 'secret'. This
* ultimate 'Big Brother' machine even has an official name 'Project
* Platform'.

[
"The Puzzle Palace": all these computer systems are linked together
under Project Platform. The first Cray went to the NSA. p138
]

* Although the NSA was officially formed in 1952, it grew out of an
* International Agreement signed in 1947. Officially termed the "UKUSA
* PACT," this was an agreement between Britain, the U.S.A., Canada, New
* Zealand, Australia and the NATO countries.
*
* The UKUSA PACT was, quite simply and bluntly, an agre


Grahame Cooper

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can be used to keep private: Internet traffic, such as email,
and telephone conversations (PGP phone). A version of PGP phone that looks
and works like a normal telephone --- but can't be spied upon --- would
eventually become wide-spread.

It begins to change the mind-set that the Police State is inevitable.


----

Major references...

In the last several years intelligence operatives, specifically including
SIGINT (signal intelligence) people, have started telling the story about
the massive domestic use of computer monitoring software in the U.S.

Including our domestic phone calls, Internet, fax, everything.

I'm going to quote a number of articles and books; they involved talking
to over 100 of these intelligence operatives.


Buy this book: "Secret Power" by Nicky Hager, ISBN 0-908802-35-8.

It describes in detail the ECHELON platform. It's one of the most important.
New Zealand people are quite unhappy at their place within ECHELON.


Buy this book: "Spyworld: Inside the Canadian and American Intelligence
Establishments" By Mike Frost [NSA trained sigint person] and Michel
Gratton, Toronto Doubleday 1994.

Mr. Frost describes missions in the U.S. where he was trained by the NSA
to handle domestic jobs that would be illegal for the NSA.

These books are quite damning, in a heavily documented way.


This is an AMAZINGLY COMPREHENSIVE BOOK: buy it!

"Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996


Buy this book: "The Secret War Against the Jews", Authors: John Loftus and
Mark Aarons, ISBN 0-312-11057-X, 1994. Don


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-----

o Louis Freeh
o National ID Card
o Worldwide Banking and Phone Monitoring
o Cybernetic Control of Society
o Conclusions


******************************************************************************


ECHELON is NSA's world-wide surveillance network and associated software.

DICTIONARY - Keyword searching with exclusion logic software.

ORATORY - Speech recognition. Think of it as speech-to-text software.
Subject to DICTIONARY searches.

CALEA - A 1994 law ("Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act")
to force a massive reworking of the U.S. telephone infra-
structure so that the government can intrinsically wiretap it.
Also called the FBI Digital Telephony Act. It is a domestic
extension of ECHELON.

GAK - Government Access [to cryptographic] Keys. Any cryptography


Grahame Cooper

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-X
*
* A discipline named operations research had begun to develop prior to World
* War II that aspired to use quantitative methodologies to develop a science
* of management. [snip]
*
* For the physicists and mathematicians of the Rand Corporation, the
* intuitions of common sense were utterly insufficient as a guide to
* management. Mathematical precision was necessary, and operations
* research promised to supply that precision. [snip]
*
* It had not jumped from the management of particular, limited areas of
* warfare to the structuring of entire campaigns and wars. Operations
* research had not penetrated to the very marrow of conventional warfare,
* that is, not until an attempt was made in 1961 to revolutionize the idea
* of war. This was done by an industrialist named Robert McNamara, who had
* been president at Ford Motor Company.


Stafford Beer is a British cybernetician, and a 'research philosopher'.

In 1970, a Dr. Salvador Allende became president of Chile.

He was a democratically elected Marxist, with 37% of the vote.

Allende immediately embarked on a massive nationalization of
the banks and major companies/industries in Chile.

In 1971, Stafford Beer began a project for Allende
to put the Chilean economy under cybernetic control.

As far as I know, this is the only documented instance of someone
attempting this; deploying


Grahame Cooper

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declared 'secret'. This
* ultimate 'Big Brother' machine even has an official name 'Project
* Platform'.

[
"The Puzzle Palace": all these computer systems are linked together
under Project Platform. The first Cray went to the NSA. p138
]

* Although the NSA was officially formed in 1952, it grew out of an
* International Agreement signed in 1947. Officially termed the "UKUSA
* PACT," this was an agreement between Britain, the U.S.A., Canada, New
* Zealand, Australia and the NATO countries.
*

* The UKUSA PACT was, quite simply and bluntly, an agreement between these
* countries to collect and collate information on their respective citizens
* and to share this information with each other and pass on to Fort Meade.
*
* On March 9th 1977, the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Bill Hayden, asked

Vernon Schryver

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"to supply any available
* information" about the lawyer that "might come into its possession during
* the course of its foreign intelligence activities".
*
* As a result, the NSA provided the FBI summaries
* of six overseas conversations of Mr. Jabara.
*
* In earlier court proceedings, the FBI acknowledged that it then
* disseminated the information to 17 other law-enforcement or intelligence
* agencies and three foreign governments.
* [snip]
*
* John Shattuck, Washington director of the ACLU, who represented Mr. Jabara
* said "It is difficult to imagine a more sweeping judicial approval of
* government action in violation of constitutional rights than the decision
* of the panel is this case. Taken to its logical conclusion, the decision
* authorizes the Federal Government to restructure its surveillance
* activities so that any Federal law-enforcement or intelligence
* investigation requiring the interception of private communications could
* be conducted WITHOUT A JUDICIAL WARRANT simply by turning to the NSA."
*
* Under current


Vernon Schryver

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of assets. "We must significantly increase production
* to reach our budget target... Failure to achieve the $470 million
* projection would expose the Department's forfeiture program to criticism
* and undermine confidence in our budget projections. Every effort must be
* made to increase forfeiture income during the remaining three months of
* fiscal year 1990."
*
* In addition, forfeiture activities affect how many federal prosecutors
* will be allocated to each U.S. Attorney by the Justice Department.
[snip]
*
* Says Senator Henry J. Hyde: "The more they seize, the more they get for
* their own 'official use'. Federal and state officials now have the power
* to seize your business, home, bank account, records and personal property,
* all without indictment, hearing, or trial. Everything you have can be
* taken away at the whim of one or two federal or state officials operating
* in secret."
*
* The so-called War on Drugs, the Congressman continued, "has been
* perverted too often into a series of frontal attacks on basic
* American constitutional guarantees --- including due process,
* the presumption of innocence, and the right to own and enjoy
* private property."


----


* 2 Customs Agents are Facing Charges in Kidnapping Case
* by David Kocieniewski, The New York Times, 1996
*
* Two United States Customs inspectors have been charged with kidnapping
* and beating someone they suspected was a drug dealer last year while
* trying to rob him of cash and cocaine, Federal prosecutors said.
*
* Three men charged in all put on bullet-proof vests and police badges,
* according to the complaint, and stopped the victim after identifying
* themselves as Federal agents. The Federal agents then beat the man,
* handcuffed him, forced him into their car and drove off, witnesses
* said.
*
* The victim, whom Federal officials refuse to identify, dashed from the
* ca


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says
member nations can spy on each others population without
warrants or limits, and that this can be shared with the
spied-on country's SIGINT agency.

PGP - Free and unbreakable encryption, available world-wide.

CISPES - Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador


"Ultra-secret" agencies:

NSA - U.S. National Security Agency

GCHQ - British Government Communications Headquarters

CSE - Canada's Communications Security Establishment

DSD - Australian Defense Signals Directorate

GCSB - New Zealand's Government Communications Security Bureau

******************************************************************************

Main()
----


Using mainly publicly available material, here is my documentation of:


o Part 1: Massive Domestic Spying via NSA ECHELON

This is highly detailed documentation of NSA spying.
This spying is illegal, massive, and domestic.
The documentation is comprehensive, especially since
it is now brought together in this one section.

o Part 2: On Monitoring and Being Monitored

In this section


Jem Berkes

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up for six months with no bail, they won't
> have much of a problem finding a judge willing to do this.
>
> Sentencing took place on October 10 and Ed Cummings was sentenced to
> seven months in federal prison. The seven month period ended 4 days later.

Okay, so he pled guilty to having a red box, and was sentenced to time served.

Bad enough that any of that happened in the first place.

Now comes the extra vile persecution part...

Three months later, Cummings was in court on violation of probation charges,
because of his guilty plea on the red box.

> When Cummings was originally put on probation years ago, the probation
> officer told him he thought the whole thing was a big waste of time.
> The only thing he was accused of, after all, was taking batteries out
> of a tone dialer that a cop was questioning him about. And the really
> ironic part was that Cummings wasn't even the person who took the
> batteries out - it was one of his friends. But he was not about to turn
> a friend in for something so absurd. After all, this was a very minor
> thing - he paid a fine of nearly $3,000 and was put on probation and that
> was it.
>
> When the Secret Service threw Cummings in prison for possession of a red
> box in early 1995, they knew he could be screwed again when he finally
> got out since being arrested is a probation violation.
>
> And Special Agent Thomas Varney spent a great deal of effort to see that
> this is exactly what happened. He made multiple trips to Easton and
> convinced the local authorities to lock Cummings up as if he were the
> most sadistic of killers.
>
> On Friday, Cummings' probation officer did an aboutface and told the
> court that he thought Cummings rep


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boss
> said just do a handoff now and leave.
>
> I am upset. I was trying to be professional.


Boy, email is one cheap detective!

Anyway, that seems the full scoop.

---guy

********** end excerpt from 'Corruption at Salomon Brothers' **********



Notice my 'Boy, email is one cheap detective!' observation; Legal had talked
about hiring a private investigator prior to that.

The "perp" not only named his new job, he gave his full job description,
pay rates, and his personal thoughts on matters.


The case was accepted by NYC Assistant US Prosecutor Jeremy Temkin - the
person assigned the Citibank wire-transfer theft. He said they never figured
out who the inside person was.

The interesting thing was that it turns out the people who investigate for the
US attorneys are FBI agents. Every meeting we had included a couple FBI agents
taking notes and turns questioning.

The nice FBI personnel I dealt with were from the New York Computer Crime
Squad. Special Agents Steven N. Garfinkel and David P. Marziliano.

This posting isn't about the many good FBI and other law enforcement people.

Sorry.

The other FBI case involved transfer of Salomon technology to the ISP account
of an employee who had accepted another job, but hadn't yet notified Salomon.

They mailed home to themselves Salomon


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clicked on what turned out to be child pornography.

So they click on something else and that wipes it off the screen.

It's still sitting in their browser's cache.

* "Man Arrested After Retrieving Child Pornography by Computer"
* The New York Times, May 19, 1995
*
* A Los Angelos man has been arrested on charges of possessing child porno-
* graphy that he obtained over the Internet. His Internet traffic was under
* surveillance because he placed an ad seeking an "open relationship" with
* couples interested in "family nudity."
*
* City Attorney James K. Hahn said "Certainly if you see something flicker
* across your computer monitor, then you are not in possession, but if you
* go to the difficulty of downloading...then you're guilty."

As you can see, this technical detail totally escapes some people.

Continuing: then the Feds raid their place.

Naturally, they charge you with possession of child pornography.

Let's further say you have some gibberish
files which might be encrypted material.

The government then says if you don't plead guilty to child porn, then we'll
prosecute you for the crypto-crime provision of this bill too.

i.e. Cypherpunk Tim May's succinct complaint "It's wrong when I'm a felon
under an ever increasing number


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structure so that the government can intrinsically wiretap it.
Also called the FBI Digital Telephony Act. It is a domestic
extension of ECHELON.

GAK - Government Access [to cryptographic] Keys. Any cryptography

product with GAK has been compromised so the government can
read it.

SIGINT - Signals Intelligence = NSA = electronic snooping

Key Recovery - See GAK.

C-SPAN - Two cable channels dedicated to broadcasting both houses of
Congress and other U.S. governmental functions.

DEA - U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration
DIA - U.S. Pentagon Defense Intelligence Agency
DIA - U.S. Drug Interdiction Agency (older)

FBI - U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation

BATF - U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms

UKUSA - pronounced 'you-koo-za' - a secret wartime treaty that says

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*
* And it was not just the FBI. The CIA, the Pentagon and the National
* Security Agency [Military] had all turned their intelligence-gathering
* capabilities on American citizens.

And who was targeted?

Qubilah Shabazz, second oldest daughter of Malcom X.

* Both Sides in Shabazz Case Say Tapes Prove Their Point
* by Don Terry, The New York Times, April 1995
*
* Ms. Shabazz was indicted on Jan 11 on nine counts of using the telephones
* and travelling across state lines to hire a hit man to kill Mr. Farrakhan.
* Eight of the counts involved taped telephone calls between Ms. Shabazz and
* Mr. Fitzpatrick, a cocaine addict who faces a possible five-year prison
* sentence in an unrelated drug case. [read: blackmailed]
*
* Of the 40 recorded conversations, 38 were initiated by Mr. Fitzpatrick.
* "Most of the conversations during these calls consisted primarily of
* remarks by Mr. Fitzpatrick." said defense lawyer William M. Kunstler.
* [Kunstler was a silvered haired angel even while still on Earth]
*
* The Government had a statement initialed from Ms. Shabazz.
*
* "I jokingly asked Fitzpatrick if he would kill Louis Farrakhan."
*
* The statement was written by two FBI agents


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flew overhead. This does not contribute to trust in the
government negotiators, nor does it help the Koreshians make rational
decisions. Like walking out unarmed before a Federal army, using tanks
from the U.S. Defense Dept. [It should still be called the War Dept.]

o C.S. gas is never supposed to be used inside a building. Used inside,
it can create fires, and it can produce cyanide, which can immobilize
and kill. The manufacturer of C.S. gas, Aldridge Chemicals emphasized
that this product was intended for outdoor riot control only; it was
not supposed to be a weapon.

In fact, the company says it stopped selling C.S. to Israel in 1988
because the government there was shooting the chemical into buildings
occupied by Palestinians. Many of those people subjected to the gas
became ill, and others died from the exposure in enclosed quarters.
You would think Israelites would be sensitive to deadly gassing of
people in enclosed areas. [Gas use as reported by Amnesty
International's Chemical Report on C.S.


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in/out of Salomon
> we are checking - not internal email.
>
> The security rule for Internet traffic is "don't send anything you
> wouldn't want to read about in tomorrow's newspaper".

I think it's pretty obvious why company traffic involving company systems
is monitored. After all, companies aren't democracies.

Finally, I should point out that all the people at both sites were told
repeatedly that Internet email was being monitored; this includes all
traffic picked up by my JobTalk analytic:

> Salomon site.
>
> All sites start out with the employment contract stating unequivocally
> that the systems are the company's and are to be used only for work
> purposes. And that they are subject to inspection. You signed it.
>
> Salomon's goes further by stating the firm's computer systems may be
> audited and that they have the right to do so even if you have put
> personal information on the system.
>
> After the first couple of months of security incidents at Salomon,
> they began issuing global email broadcasts saying that a new security
> package "Internet Risk Management: email facility" had been installed,
> and that Internet email traffic was actively being monitored.
>
> They did so again and again.
>
> I think they sent out a memo to everyone too.
>
> Security incidents NEVER stopped.
>
> Major violations occurred again and again and again and again...
>
> I have come to realize that the number of security inc


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OF DATA
* TOGETHER TO GET A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE---WHAT SOME CALL INTELLIGENCE.

Wow. All federal agencies will be linked together in a vast intelligence
network. Handheld fingerprint devices will be deployed. Obviously.

They are working around the limitations Congress wanted on NCIC 2000.

And how much hardware is a handheld fingerprint device?

* "Lucent in New Identification Joint Venture"
* The New York Times, 5/22/97
*
* Lucent Technologies [Bell Labs is their research and development arm] and
* U.S. Venture Partners said today that they had formed a company that would
* make products to help people prove their identities through electronic
* fingerprinting technology.
*
* The first product of the company, Veridicom Inc., will be a postage-size
* fingerprint sensor used to retrieve information, authorize purchases or
* allow entry into restricted areas.
*
* The postage-size sensor will measure the ridges and valleys on the skin
* when a finger is pressed against a silicon chip, and then check the
* measurements against the user's profile.

Not big at all, is it?

# "Faster, More Accurate Fingerprint Matching"
# By Andrea Adelson, The New York Times, October 11 1992
#
# "We think there will b


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without setting a place on fire?

If a place gets set on fire, and the government has many guns pointed at
you, you might not decide to get out in time until it is too late.

o 5 SLA people burned to death from a tear gas grenade.

o An armed wholed-up person burned to death in San Diego on May 2, 1997.
The police fired CS gas into the house. According to the Union Tribune
newspaper: as the CS gas filled the house it ignited, and caused the
entire structure and surrounding trees to be engulfed in flames.

o A member of a violent militia group called 'The Posse' was armed and
wholed up: they simply *purposely* set the house on fire. Burned
him to death.

o Philadelphia police purposely drop an incindiary device on the top
of a building housing an armed and holed-up African-American group
(men, woman & children) called 'Move'. They burned down the entire
neighborhood of 62 homes. 9/28/96 NYT: 1.5 million dollars was awarded
to survivors. Eleven men, women and children died in the fire purposely
set ("a satchel of explosives") by Police Commissioner Gregore Sambor
and Fire Chief William Richmond to open a hole in the building for tear
gas delivery. But Pennsylvania state law was ruled to grant them
personal immunity from Federal civil rights charges because they were
state employees [what???]. The incident occurred in May 1985.

o Waco. CS tear gas attack by the FBI using Army tanks.

The government, across the decades, keeps managing to burn people to death,
rather than bringing them to trial.

Often, tea


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upheld the legality of the kidnapping in
* June 1992, Mexico temporarily suspended its participation in joint
* anti-narcotics operations with the United States.
*
* Then Mexico adopted its Mexicanization policy a year later [keep American
* drug enforcement out of Mexico], and the State Department said that the
* abduction was directly to blame for Mexico's increased concerns about
* national sovereignty.

Of course, that's no reason not to check our U.S. borders.

We never learn:

# "CIA Suspect's Prosperous Clan Reacts Angrily to Arrest in Pakistan"
# By Kenneth J. Cooper, The Washington Post, June 22, 1997
..combined with...
# "Spiriting Off Fugitive By U.S. Irks Pakistanis"
# By John F. Burns, The New York Times, June 23, 1997
#
# Mir Aimal Kansi, who was wanted for killing two CIA employees and wounding
# three others in an attack outside their Langley headquarters, was
# transported from Pakistan within hours of his arrest.
#
# Leaders of minor political parties in the capital have taken up the issue,
# criticizing the national government for ignoring its own extradition laws
# and permitting a foreign country to haul off a Pakistani citizen without
# giving him a court hearing as provided by law.
#
# "Of course, we are angry," said a video store owner.
#
# Pakistani newspapers have described the swift transfer as a loss for the
# nation's prestige and the rule of law. The Lahore News said, "any person
# who is sought by a foreign power, no matter what his crime, must have the
# right to expect normal extradition proceedings before being


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give
the government a copy of our personal security key.


******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************


Part 6: Louis Freeh & The Creeping Police State
---- - ----- ----- --- -------- ------ -----

o Louis Freeh
o National ID Card
o Worldwide Banking and Phone Monitoring
o Cybernetic Control of Society
o Conclusions


******************************************************************************

Louis Freeh
----- -----


Louis Freeh is accomplishing something that real
terrorists themselves could never have accomplished.

Destruction of the American Way of Life.

Freedom, Liberty.

It is as if freedom terrorists were in charge of our government.


* "The End of Ordinary Money, Part I", by J. Orlin Grabbe
* http://www.aci.net/kalliste
*
* The GSA opposed CALEA [FBI code name: "Operation Root Canal"], stating
* "the proposed bill would have to have the FCC or other agency approve or
* reject equipment mainly on the basis of whether the FBI had the capacity
* to wiretap it. The GSA further stated this would weaken security." [40]

The FBI and Military are EXEMPT from any Key Recovery crypto requirements,
BECAUSE IT WOULD


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paper trails on complaints can ruin
* law-enforcement careers.

Police are the same bunch of law enforcement personnel who keep extensive
non-criminal notes and allegations on citizenry.

In fact, NYC Police have TWICE been caught using a form marked "for unofficial
notes, not to be kept with the normal records".

In other words, when the defendant tries to use discovery to get details of
the police case against them, so they can analyze what happened, these
"offline" notes are how the police withhold the information.

You know, like Geronimo Pratt's primary prosecution witness was a paid
government informer.

And the FBI won't delete the file of the kid who aspires to be in our Foreign
Service, but made the mistake of writing to foreign embassies in grade school.

Poor schmuck.

The FBI wants to keep "suspect" information on anyone in its NCIC 2000 system.

----

Some people feel the smart card will quickly give away to implantable
biometric transponders. Once everyone is fingerprinted, you may as well!

Guess what?

They exist, and aren't that big:

* http://www.radioamerica.com/relevance/11-94.html
*
* Martin Anderson, former senior member of Ronald Reagan's Economic Policy
* Advisory Board fears that the advancing technology may soon end


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* role very much. I tend to keep the nature of my personal relationships
* very private --- I don't bring my family life, love life, etc into public
* view.
*
* When I invite others into my home for social occasions, it means an offer
* of great intimacy to me and is not a casual event to be taken lightly. My
* possessions and living area are private to me --- that is, very personal.
* I feel offended when I find someone has been handling them or looking at
* them without invitation.
*
* I am often offended by information requested of me by government, school,
* employer: identification numbers, financial history, marital status, age.
*
* The right to so much information seems questionable to me, and I feel I
* am being asked to reveal very personal things about myself in doing so.
*
* This always seems to me to represent a lack of respect for personal privacy.

How quaint, to want privacy.

Our privacy has been fading into a distant memory over the
last twenty years. And that's not even figuring ECHELON.

Just try leaving the hospital without naming your baby. The government
wants 'it' to be issued a social security number too, otherwise no tax
deducting it. Gosh, a birth certificate won't do, will it?

* Source #1: HBO Undercover Special Report
* Source


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no affect whatsoever on drugs.

* Main Justice, by Jim McGee and Brian Duffy, 1996, ISBN 0-684-81135-9
*
* The drug war never had a stronger supporter than President George Bush.
*
* He showered the nation's drug warriors with money---nearly tripling the
* overall anti-narcotics budget from $4.3 billion in 1988 to $11.9 billion
* in 1992.
*
* The results were disappointing.
*
* After four years there was more cocaine on the streets than ever.
* Naturally, it was also cheaper than ever.
*
* The overall crime rate was unchanged too.
*
* Inside Main Justice, such numbers are depressing. To those outside the law
* enforcement community, it might have seemed an ironic, even heretical
* notion, but to many of the career lawyers and prosecutors inside Main
* Justice it was an article of faith that solving the nation's drug problem
* could not be accomplished by prosecution and jail sentences alone. These
* career people feel the answer is self-evident: Education, rehabilitation
* and improving the grim lot of most of those prone to drug addiction ought
* to become national priorities.
*
* Said David Margolis, who had supervised the Criminal Division's anti-
* narcotics efforts in the early 1990s: "Anyone who thinks that drug
* enforcement is primarily a law enforcement issue, they're smoking wacky
* tabacky."

Tell all the damn manipulative politicians.


Jail's not even cost effective.

* RAND Study Finds Mandatory Minimums Cost-Ineffective
* ----------------------------------------------------
*
* Excerpt from RAND Press Release:

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Bulge, which involved General Patton.

My dad said that when he saw fellow GIs in the German prison camp trading food
for tobacco and even adding wood shavings to extend it: that's when he decided
not to smoke.

"Tobacco isn't addictive" ---Politician Bob Dole, taker of tobacco monies

I've always wondered which Senators were paid off to exempt billboards from
having their health warnings be the same proportion as those in magazine ads.
And how did they justify it?


Here is an example of our law enforcement's attitudes toward marijuana:

* "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
*
* FBI Director William S. Sessions, questioned by the Senate Judiciary
* Committee in March 1986, acknowledged that he once told one of his
* assistants that he thought several Ku Klux Klan members accused of
* lynching a black man "were OK until I learned they smoked pot".

This is a historically consistent view espoused by Government officials:

# "60 Years of Reefer Madness", High Times Magazine, July 1997
#
# 1937: Harry Anslinger, head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, read into
# official testimony (without objection) before Congress, stories of
# "coloreds" with big lips seducing white women with jazz and marijuana,
# claiming that 50% of all violent crime by blacks and Latino immigrants
# has been traced directly to marijuana.


* "Phantom Numbers Haunt the War on Drugs"
* By Christopher S. Wren, The New York Times, April 20, 1997
*
* Politicians are said to use statistics the way drunks use lampposts: for
* support rather then illumination. The aphorism seems


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and the public realize that in the age of
* computers, microwaves, and satellites, we are all Jews.

Have all key politicians been compromised, whether they even know it yet?

(Suddenly some people are trying to think back to whether they ever said
something in private they would greatly regret being made public: that
would be 99.9% of all telephone users. Too late.)


ECHELON is infinitely abusable, and has been repeatedly abused.

Our phone conversations are too personal, too unguarded.

About four years ago my phone rang. It wasn't the normal ring, more of a
couple dings. I picked up and could hear someone talking in addition to
hearing my dial-tone. I pushed a digit now and then to get rid of the dial
tone and keep the line open while I listened.

It was a daughter relating a story to her mother about how she had managed
to let herself have sex with one of her two roommates.

With another girl. And that it has caused complications in the living
arrangements.

It turned out her mother was homosexual too. (technically bi-sexual)

It was a fascinating conversation on my phone line.

When it was over, I called my own number from another of my line


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pick up the telephone? Are all Internet or fax
messages being pored over continuously by shadowy figures somewhere in a
windowless building? There is almost never any solid information with which
to judge what is realistic concern and what is silly paranoia.

What follows explains as precisely as possible - and for the first time in
public - how the worldwide system works, just how immense and powerful it is
and what it can and cannot do. The electronic spies are not ubiquitous, but
the paranoia is not unfounded.

The global system has a highly secret codename - ECHELON.

The intelligence agencies will be shocked to see it named and described for
the first time in print.

Each station in the ECHELON network has computers that automatically search
through millions of intercepted messages for ones containing pre-programmed
keywords or fax, telex and email addresses. Every word of every message is
automatically searched: they do not need your specific telephone number or
Internet address on the list.

All


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* small caches around the house.
*
* When the sky did not fall, when Ross Perot's predictions did not come
* true, Alvarez began slowly moving the cash in his house back into a
* bank. Partly because of his fear of a possible robbery, he chose to
* redeposit his money in relatively small amounts, $5000 or so at a time.
*
* While Alvarez had come to know Perot's gloomy predictions were off the
* mark, he did not know that the federal international government, in its
* hysteria about drugs, had persuaded Congress to greatly expand the
* government's civil and criminal powers to seize assets of individuals
* it felt might be up to some illicit business. The government's concern
* was so overwhelming that in 1986 Congress was prevailed upon to add a
* provision to the seizure law forbidding any "structuring" of financial
* transactions in a way so as to evade and existing requirement that cash
* transfers of more than $10,000 had to be reported to the government.

[
The New York Times, April 13, 1997

U.S. Under Secretary Raymond W. Kelly signed an order on Aug 7th requiring
New York businesses transmitting cash to report all transactions over
$750. The order was not publicly announced. It is part of emergency
powers. [President Clinton subsequently makes it permanent nationwide.]

----

NYC Mayor and former federal prosecutor Rudolph Giuliani has made
some emphatic statements proposing $100 dollar bills be eliminated
to combat drug dealers. Perhaps all cash will be next.
]

* On November 11, 1993, apparently tipped off by a friendly bank clerk who
* thought Alvarez's redeposits looked like "structuring", the Internal
* Revenue Service seized $88,315.76, the life savings of a hard-working
* immigrant.
*
* The government, of course, had no evidence that Alvarez was using the
* money for improper purposes, or was in any way conne


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monitoring.

********** begin excerpt from 'Corruption at Salomon Brothers' **********

Thread: Five Months Statistics
---- ------ ----------

I created and did the traffic analysis for five months before handing it
off. The time includes a 2.5 month parallel run with the new person.

The new person found only half the security incidents I did, but we handed
off anyway.

Summarizing my five months:

o caught over 400,000 lines of Salomon proprietary source code outbound

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// //
// Copyright (C) 1994 Salomon Incorporated //
// All Rights Reserved. Unpublished. //
// //
// This software is proprietary and confidential to Salomon Inc. //
// and may not be duplicated, disclosed to third parties, or used //
// for any purpose not expressly authorized by Salomon Inc. //
// //
// Any unauthorized use, duplication, or disclosure is prohibited //
// by law and will result in prosecution. //
// //
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

o Risk Management reports ("positions") caught outbound, including DRMS
(Derivatives) going to someone who started working for Merrill Lynch

o Risk Management reports inbound: Phibro positions [Salomon subsidiary]

o Internal product documentation and trading desk procedures outbound

o Many hostname/username/


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Page A01
* The Washington Post
*
* Due to their new 'Mexicanization policy':
* Mexico became the main gateway into the United States for illegal
* narcotics, with the amount of cocaine making the journey climbing to
* an estimated 210 tons last year.
*
* Mexico's drug arrests plunged nearly 65 percent, from 27,369 the year
* before the policy changes to 9,728 last year, according to data that
* the Mexican government supplied to the State Department.
*
* Cocaine seizures in Mexico were cut in half, dropping from more than
* 50 tons in 1993 to slightly more than 24 tons in each of the last two
* years -- the smallest amounts since 1988, Mexican government figures
* show.
*
* The GAO report charges that Mexico's greatest problem is, in
* fact, the "widespread, endemic corruption" throughout its law
* enforcement agencies. Earlier this month, in an indictment of his own
* department, Attorney General Lozano fired 737 members of his federal
* police force -- 17 percent of his entire corps -- saying they did not
* have "the ethical profile" required for the


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Infested by moles and potential defectors for more than twelve of its
* first fifteen years, NSA managed the distinction of not only becoming
* the most secretive and most hidden member of America's growing
* intelligence consortium, but also the most thoroughly penetrated.
*
*
*
* The NSA began a McCarthy-type purge, and dozens of NSA employees
* suspected of homosexuality were forced to resign or were fired.
*
* Since then, any hint of homosexual behaviour resulted in either
* the person's not being hired or, if the fact is revealed later,
* being forced to resign.
*
* Any man exhibiting the slightest effeminacy became an instant suspect.
* The Office of Security was on full alert for limp wrists and telltale
* lisps.
*
* During his security clearance polygraph test, Mitchell told his
* interrogator about certain "sexual experimentation" with dogs
* and chickens he had done when he was between the ages of thirteen
* and nineteen.
*
* The Agency's Office of Security thought about it for a week, then issued
* him his security clearance to work at the National Security Agency.

Parting shot #2

!!! Congressional testimony of FBI informer Frank Varelli:
!!!
!!! "I was told that the Bureau wanted to get an apartment.
!!!
!!! So I could seduce the head of the CISPES group.
!!!
!!! Her name is Linda Hay and is one of the most outspoken
!!! persons that I've known.
!!!
!!! FBI Agent Dan Flannigan wanted her filmed in a very
!!! compromising position, or as he put it, `Once we do it,
!!! we have her in our hand.'"
!!!
!!! Q: They wanted you to seduce a nun?
!!!


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on the problem.

This is a life-sustaining feedback 'homeostatic' loop.

[bracket comments are mine]
When Stafford Beer says Cyberstride needed to filter 'homeostatic loops':

* "The Human Use of Human Beings - Cybernetics and Society"
* by Norbert Wiener, 1954, pre-ISBN
*
* The process [such as that employed by our nervous system] by which we
* living beings resist the general stream of corruption and decay is
* known as homeostasis.

Stayin' alive, stayin' alive...

So, "statistical filtration for all homeostatic loops" means one is checking
on the health of the monitored system.

The cybernetician uses the same language for feedback of weapons systems
(picking out a submarine from the background noise of the ocean) as they
do for describing human life, as they do for the political organization
of a country.

Like I said, an awesome scope.

Norbert Wiener even came up with a physics-based
description of how life is formed by information.

Check it out. Hang in there too, it's worth it.

* "Platform for Change", by Stafford Beer, 1978, ISBN 0 471 06189 1
*
* The term 'entropy' began life as a subtle measure of energy flow.
*
* When something hotter is systemically bound to something cooler, the
* greater energy of the hotter stuff migrates---inexorably migrates---
* into the cooler stuff. This is one manifestation of the Second Law of
* Thermodynamics, which everyone of education has encountered.
*
* This is sometimes referred to as 'the universe is running down'.

Okay, 'entropy', yeah I remember that kinda. Keep going:

Our solar system is a lot of matter that is NOT sitting in a situation of
entropy: the sun is radiating heat at the planets. Instead of just matter
smoothing out to a common low-energy state, a burning fireball is at work.

Cybernetics states that u


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o Has spent a LARGE amount of SBI time (inside SBI) working
on his own WWW business. Still actively does this.

o Transmitted a copyrighted script.
# This script is a commercial product. Giving or selling it to anyone
# is not permitted under any circumstances.

o Spends time as "helpdesk" for his distribution of SYBASE-MODE.


Furthermore, he has stated:

o he would like to leave Salomon

o would leave for half of his currently salary
to work fulltime on his WWW business.

His activities are clearly costly and detrimental to Salomon Brothers.







# # #####
# # # #
####### #
# # ##### Brain himself says Salomon allows him to
####### # spend a lot of time on his business venture.
# # #
# # #######



date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:52:13 -0400
From: bob@tridenthead2 (Bob Brain nnn-nnnn)
To: Tri...@ppllc.com (Tom Trigger)
subject: Re: Kruger?

Trigger> If BTO didn't let you spend a lot of time working on your
Trigger> own business, I'd have said leave ASAP. What a lousy place.

Could I keep getting 30%+ raises at other places? I should really turn
consultant.

Yeah, I have it real easy now, plenty of time to work on my own business
during the day. Great benefits here!
[snip]

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Real-time shenanigans between Republic National Bank, Salomon Brothers,
and Bob Brain's WWW business site over the Internet!

: date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:30:29 -0400
: From: bob@tridenthead2 (Bob Brain nnn-nnnn)
: Subject: XXX Graphic Files


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board asks her back, but she says no, she is too disgusted at her treatment.

Zero Tolerance victims, falling into the abyss.


State troopers really know their "business":

: Robert Fitches, a 22 year-old said in his Federal lawsuit that he was
: humiliated when state troopers ordered him to drop his pants during a
: drug search along Interstate 15 in Davis County.
: Source: Salt Lake City Tribune 7/8/95

Maybe this is an accurate analogy of why dragnet-monitoring is wrong:

: The Sheraton Boston Hotel was discovered videotaping employees changing
: clothes in locker rooms. The 1991 surveillance caught employees using
: drugs, Sheraton said. Source: Senate Labor Committee on Employment, 6/93

If you strip us naked you will detect more crime, but also, you strip
individuals naked without specific individuals being suspected of a crime.

Dragnet monitoring should not be the American way.

Unrestricted cryptography must be made legal now,
so we are no longer naked to ECHELON monitoring.
It will be a beginning.


: Privacy Journal's War Stories (75 pages, $21.50) is available from
: PRIVACY JOURNAL, P.O. Box 28577, Providence RI 02908, 401/274-7861,
: electronic mail: 510...@mcimail.com.
:
: Beverly Folmsbee of Pittsfield Massachusetts, who was not suspected
: of any drug use, left her job after declining to take a "degrading"
: urinalysis test at her company, then known as Tech Tool Grinding &
: Supply Inc.
:
: It required disrobing, donning a hospital gown, and submitting to
: bodily inspection by a medical staff person.
:
: But the highest court in the state said that the testing was legitimate.
: Source: Folmsbee v.Tech Tool Grinding & Supply Inc., 417 Mass. 338, 630
: N.E. 2d 586 (1994).


It is totally urinating what the politicians and
courts have


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fact, at the same time the FBI was telling Congress and the public
* that the new technologies were already preventing them from conducting
* essential wiretaps, senior FBI officials from cities across the United
* States were telling FBI headquarters in Washington THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
* We know this because...[buy the book! Burnham is an American hero.]


Additionally, the FBI/NSA has briefcase-sized devices that can be attached
to any digital telephone company transmission line, and can monitor many
conversations simultaneously.

# "The FBI's Latest Idea: Make Wiretapping Easier"
# By Anthony Ramirez, The New York Times, April 19, 1992
#
# One telecommunications equipment manufacturer said he was puzzled by the
# FBI proposal. "The FBI already has a lot of technology to wiretap digital
# lines," he said, on the condition of anonymity.
#
# He said four companies, including such major firms as Mitel Corporation,
# a Canadian maker of telecommunications equipment, can design digital
# decoders to convert computer code back into voice.
#
# A portable system about the size of a large briefcase could track and
# decode 36 simultaneous conversations. A larger system, the size of a
# small refrigerator, could follow up to 1,000 conversations.

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no transponder!!!

DAMN. I hope the government doesn't have any
massive deployment of this technology in mind.

* SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION FEDERICO PENA
* TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH BOARD
* WASHINGTON, D.C.
* January 10, 1996
*
*
* So, today I'm setting a national goal: To build an Intelligent
* Transportation Infrastructure across the United States...
*
* I want 75 of our largest metropolitan areas outfitted with a complete
* Intelligent Transportation Infrastructure in 10 years. And let us make a
* similar commitment to upgrading technology in 450 other communities, our
* rural roads, and interstates, as the need warrants...
*
* The vehicles of the future, whether cars, planes, or trains, will have
* state-of-the-art communications systems. We must ensure that our roads
* and highways and transit systems are able to keep pace with them.
*
* Today, I'm announcing the award of five contracts to standards development
* organizations to begin fast tracking the development of those standards.
* They are: AASHTO, IEEE, ITE, ASTM, and SAE. [So the standards of hardware
* and information are interchangeable and global.]

Yep.

# Subject: ---> Big Bro and the Intelligent Transportation System <---
# From: 9...@spies.com (Extremely Right)
# Date: 1997/06/03
#
# If you live in a big city you will find that there is an interesting
# proliferation of cameras pointed at the freeway. Do you know what they
# are, what they can do, and what is their potential for abuse?
#
# The System is called the Int


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York Times, June 20, 1997

President Threatens Veto of Senate Bill for CIA

By TIM WEINER

WASHINGTON -- The Senate on Thursday passed a secret
spending bill for U.S. intelligence, but the White
House threatened to veto it over a provision that would
protect whistleblowers.

The Senate bill would let employees of the Central
Intelligence Agency and other branches of the
government tell members of Congress classified
information that would expose a crime, reveal lying to
Congress, uncover fraud or stop abuses. They could do
so without approval from their superiors and without
fear of reprisal. They could only pass on information
to appropriate members -- for example, CIA information
would have to go to the Intelligence Committee.

But the White House said it would veto the entire bill
over that provision. In a written statement, it said
the whistle-blower measure would usurp "the president's
constitutional authority to protect national security
and other privileged information."


National security means keeping Congress dumbed-down:

* "Secret Pentagon Intelligence Unit is Disclosed"
* By Raymond


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would be converted to 'ky----ky."
*
* Should this selection process still produce a considerable amount of
* traffic, the data could then undergo 'secondary testing', such as the
* addition of the words "New York," to reduce the number.


You may wonder what keywords excel at picking up "resume condition" traffic.

You want the truth?

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

Just kidding. That was Jack Nickelson speaking for the NSA.

Here is how it is done:

o Select all traffic.

o Exclude commonplace traffic, such as mailing lists.
example: FROM <fire...@greatcircle.com>
This is done by selecting keywords that match against the routing
information in the email header: who it came from, who it is going to.
The phone analogy is recipient and originating phone numbers.
This cuts down on "noise". "Secret Power" gave examples of this too.

o Search all traffic for a set of keywords that are found (tuned) over
time to have the best results. SOME of the ones I used:

first day
last day
resign
new job
resume
interview
drug test

It's ironic that drug testing of employees is so wide-spread that it can
be used to pick out people looking for new jobs.

o Further exclusion logic (keywords) to isolate the meaning of the
keyword 'resume' to mean job history. Also, UK people say 'CV'.
Example: do NOT allow a sentence fragment like 'resume playing'
to trigger "resume condition" inclusion.

That's how it is done.

I then sit at a terminal and page through a
summary of the results, looking for 'hits'.

That's how DICTIONARY works too.

* The Puzzle Palace


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's
: Bruno> office (short skirts-high-heels-stockings) and grabbed a floppy
: Bruno> with some graphic images we can use.
: Bruno> Please install these into our WWW site.
:
: Made so.
:
: -Bob

********** end excerpt from 'Corruption at Salomon Brothers' **********


Here's one example of internal operations documentation being sucked out
the Internet. And endless amount of this material left the firm.

I caught Internal Audit alone transferring proprietary/confidential
material three times.

********** begin excerpt from 'Corruption at Salomon Brothers' **********

*****************************************************************************
*****************************************************************************
*****************************************************************************

SECURITY INCIDENT REPORT, 8/25/96

--INTERNAL AUDIT: Fred Hamburger--

HOSTNAMES / USERNAMES / PASSWORDS

SALOMON INTERNAL DOCUMENTATION
---------------------------------

This is a security incident report regarding the Internet (a public wire)
traffic of Salomon Brothers, which is monitored for security/compliance.

Internal Audit member Fred Hamburger has repeatedly transferred passwords
to Salomon systems over the unprotected Internet, one system is a Yield
Book system, and also transferred a highly detailed internal document on
'EMERGING MARKETS DEBT WHOLE LOANS SUPPORT PROCEDURES' to an individual's
external ISP (Internet) account.

: *********************************
: Filename: Aug_22_96/dfAA09397 Size: 51729, Dated: Aug 22 15:25
: Sender: fhamburger@rocky
: Recipient: smys...@ix.netcom.com
: Subject: PSOPROC.DOC
: **** UUencoding, Filename='PSOPROC.DOC'
:
: Some of the pro


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way the law defines violent crime.
*
* For example, aggravated assault is defined as either intentionally causing
* serious bodily harm or using a weapon to threaten or attempt to cause
* bodily harm.
*
* Fortunately, most aggravated assault victims fall into the last category;
* most victims are never touched by the offender.
*
* The same held true for armed robbery. Only 3 percent required medical
* treatment. Less than half of armed robbers displayed guns, and those
* who did were LESS LIKELY TO INJURE VICTIMS than robbers who didn't show
* guns.
*
* The FBI has a tendency to worry people unnecessarily, even when it has
* good news. For example, last year the FBI announced that 53 percent of
* all homicides were by strangers, and that for the first time all Americans
* had a "realistic" chance of being murdered.
*
* But to arrive at these troubling figures, the FBI considered ALL UNSOLVED
* HOMICIDES, including drug-related killings, as homicides committed by
* strangers, thus creating the impression that murder was becoming
* increasingly random. "Three Strikes" laws also skew the statistic


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aide Chris McLean.
:
: McLean is hardly a friend of the Net. While in
: former Sen. Jim Exon's (D-Neb.) office, McLean
: drafted the notorious Communications Decency
: Act and went on to prompt Exon to derail
: "Pro-CODE" pro-encryption legislation last fall.
: Then, not long after McLean moved to his current
: job, his new boss stood up on the Senate floor
: and bashed Pro-CODE in favor of the White
: House party line: "The President has put forward
: a plan which in good faith attempts to balance
: our nation's interests in commerce, security, and
: law enforcement."

Kerrey has since introduced a bill that parrots the Clinton administration's
philosophy:

* http://www.cdt.org/crypto/legis_105/mccain_kerrey/analysis.html
*
* Comparison: Major Features of the Administration and McCain-Kerrey Bills
*
* Administration Draft*
* McCain-Kerrey** [w. section#]
* Federal licensing of certificate
* authorities(CA) and key recovery
* agents
* Yes


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Congress, UKUSA not only
lies about their activities, they also do so with impunity.

A Secret Government?

: The Puzzle Palace, Author James Bamford, 1983 revision, p206
:
: Bypassing not only the Joint Chiefs but even the secretaries of the
: branches of the armed forces, the NSCID devolves incredible authority
: and responsibility on the NSA director, giving him, at least where
: SIGINT is concerned, his own Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force.

Let's just say lots of secrecy, Military power, Military and civilian
personnel, MANY BILLIONS of dollars of funding per year and no accountability.

Called UKUSA.


* "A Spy Agency Admits Accumulating $4 Billion in Secret Money"
* By Tim Weiner, The New York Times, May 16, 1996
*
* In a complete collapse of accountability, NRO, the Government agency that
* builds spy satellites, accumulated about $4 billion in uncounted secret
* money. [First they said it was $1 billion, then $2 billion...]
*
* The new head of the agency, John Nelson, said that the secret agency had
* undergone "a fundamental financial meltdown."
*
* The agency's secrecy made Congressional oversite next to impossible,
* intelligence officials said.
*
* Just two years previously, the NRO constructed a "stealth building".
* It was a $300 million new headquarters. The agency had explained th


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set limits on its
* program seeking the help of librarians in "detecting Soviet spies."
*
* Under the Library Awareness Program. which the FBI says has been in exist-
* ence for years, librarians have been asked to report suspicious-looking
* people who might be Soviet spies, to be alert to which books and periodi-
* cals such people read or check out and to disclose the names and informa-
* tion about book borrowers suspected of using libraries for espionage
* purposes or recruiting library users for espionage [what???].
*
* FBI Director William S. Sessions said the bureau would continue to contact
* public, university and corporate libraries in the New York City area about
* "hostile intelligence service activities at libraries." [fuh-gedda-boutit]

Of course, they know all the books you've ever bought using credit cards.

Fear, loathing, hysteria, and a loosening of the rules for "national security":

* "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
*

* After the Oklahoma City bombing, Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick
* and FBI Director Freeh announced that they had decided to reinterpret
* twenty-year-old Justice Department guidelines originally put in place to
* restrain the FBI from violating the constitutional rights of political
* dissidents.
*
* "If those guidelines are interpreted broadly and proactively, as opposed
* to defensively, as has been the case for many many years, I feel confident
* ...we have sufficient authority," Freeh told a Senate Committee.
*
* William Safire, the conservative New York Times columnist with libertarian

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between Military
and civilian control of the domestic population.
]


P475-477: Like an ever-widening sinkhole, the NSA's surveillance technology
will continue to expand, quietly pulling in more and more communications and
gradually eliminating more and more privacy.

If there are defenses to such technotyranny, it would appear, at least from
past experience, that they will not come from Congress.

Rather, they will most likely come from academe and industry in the form of
secure cryptographic applications to private and commercial telecommunications
equipment.

The same technology that is used against free speech can be used
to protect it, for without protection the future may be grim.


Senator Frank Church, chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee, referring
to the NSA's SIGINT technology:

At the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around
on the American people and no American would have any privacy left,
such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations,
telegrams, it doesn't matter.

There would be no place to hide.

If the government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge
in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence commun-
ity has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny,
and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort
to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how
privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know.

Such is the capability of this technology...

I don't want to see this country e


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FBI's New York office], acknowledged that the agency was one of Mitel's
# largest customers, but denied computers had that capability. [What???]


----


And how many conversations does the government listen to?

For when they took the time to get a court authorization:

* "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
*

* ...in 1993, it appears in that year alone the government agents
* listened to something like 810,000 conversations.

Of course, the NSA has stated it needs no warrants and doesn't even consider
the legality of purely domestic wiretaps.

* The Puzzle Palace, Author James Bamford, 1983 revision
*
* P229: "There's your smoking pistol right here." Watters says it is tied
* into the local telephone company circuits, which are interconnected with
* the national microwave telephone system owned by AT&T. Other specialists
* testified to the same thing: purely domestic intercepts.

I would say a MINIMUM of 100 million purely domestic U.S. conversations
are run through NSA keyword monitoring each year.


And who is listening to all our court authorized conversations?

* "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
*

* Under a littl


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They showed a photographer, Jock Sturges, and some of his unpublished
# photos, and said the FBI confiscated them. According to the report, no
# sex was involved in the photos, he's a reputable photog, and the San
# Francisco City Council went so far as to pass a bill/resolution saying
# the FBI should release the collection.
#
# Why have you confiscated photos if no sex is involved? As far as I can
# tell, the photos would be no different from some photog books listed
# in the Library of Congress.
#
# The fact that you've confiscated the photos, but still haven't charged
# the photog, seems to indicate you're operating on auto-pilot, and that
# there is nothing wrong with the photos. I've never seen a news report
# where law enforcement wasn't sure, for this particular charge.
#
# It seems that you think some people may have "dirty thoughts" if they
# see the photos; that would make you the "Thought Police"!
#
# Sincerely,
# Guy


----

The New York Times was no help.

They subsequently reviewed his work and called it ~"boring, been there, done
that". As if what they thought of his photos had a damn thing to do with the
matter.

The New York Times then continued to print topless pictures of young girls,
su


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o Select all traffic.

* The Puzzle Palace, Author James Bamford, 1983 revision
*
* P496-497: You would put in a whole slew of keywords.
* You flip through the results.

And it's damn effective.

I could pick needles out of a haystack. I could find a 16-line Risk Management
report in Salomon's daily 150-230 megabytes of Internet email traffic. It took
only one word: 'risk', and lots of exclusion logic, because the word is used
lots. I had never seen that format of risk report before. It was incoming too.

It sure didn't look like much, bu


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restricting your sexual freedom should be rescinded through
* the legislative process."
*
* o "Not only sexual expression but freedom of the press is under attack.
* We must be ever vigilant [503 U.S. 545] to counter-attack right wing
* fundamentalists who are determined to curtail our freedoms."
*
* o "As many of you know, much hysterical nonsense has appeared in the
* American media concerning "pornography" and what must be done to stop
* it from coming across your borders. This brief letter does not allow
* us to give much comments; however, why is your government spending
* millions of dollars to exercise international censorship while tons
* of drugs, which makes yours the world's most crime ridden country are
* passed through easily." [snip]
*
* There followed over the next 2 1/2 years, repeated efforts by two
* Government agencies, through five fictitious organizations and a bogus
* pen pal, to explore his willingness to break the new law by ordering
* sexually explicit photographs of children through the mail.
*
* While the ruling has brought some relief, the farmer lost his job, had
* to sell forty acres of his family


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rates.
#
# We are so far ahead of every other nation we can be rest assured of
# remaining No. 1 for many years.
#
# What kind of society are we hoping to create by this policy of wholesale
# incarceration? What will these millions of branded people, most of them
# unskilled, uneducated, and brutalized by imprisonment, be prepared to do
# when they emerge after many years?


This section is also about abusing citizens to control targeted individuals.
Examples are scattered throughout. Here come some now...


* "1984", author George Orwell, 1949, ISBN 0-679-41739-7
*
* Something crashed onto the bed behind Winston's back. The head of a
* ladder had been thrust through the window and had burst the frame.
* Someone was climbing through the window. There was a stampede of
* boots up the stairs.
*
* The room was full of solid men in black uniforms, with iron-shod
* boots on their feet and truncheons in their hands.
*
* There was another crash. Someone had picked up the glass paperweight
* from the table and smashed it to pieces on the hearth-stone


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a 'gist' - and writes it into the standard format of all
intelligence reports produced anywhere within the UKUSA network.

This is the 'front end' of the Dictionary system, using a commercially
available program (called BRS Search). It extracts the different categories
of intercepted messages (known just as 'intercept') from the large GCSB
computer database of intercept from the New Zealand stations and overseas
agencies.

[ I interrupt this book excerpt to bring you retrieval results for
"BRS Search" from the www.altavista.digital.com search engine:

BRS/Search is designed to manage large collections
of unstructured information, allowing multiple
users to quickly and efficiently search, retrieve
and analyze stored documents simply by entering a
word, concept, phrase, or combination of phrases,
in any length. The product offers the most
powerful indexing structure available today, with
users able to pinpoint critical information in
seconds, even across millions of documents in
numerous databases.

Hmmm. Sounds like the search engine I just used.

You give the search engine keywords to search for, and can specify
exclusion logic keywords. e.g. "digital AND NOT watch"
]

Before anything goes into the database, the actual searching and selection of
intercepted messages has already occurred - in the Dictionary computers at
the New Zealand and overseas stations.

This is an enormous mass of material - literally all the business, government
and personal mess


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between the ages of thirteen
* and nineteen.
*
* The Agency's Office of Security thought about it for a week, then issued
* him his security clearance to work at the National Security Agency.

Parting shot #2

!!! Congressional testimony of FBI informer Frank Varelli:
!!!
!!! "I was told that the Bureau wanted to get an apartment.
!!!
!!! So I could seduce the head of the CISPES group.
!!!
!!! Her name is Linda Hay and is one of the most outspoken
!!! persons that I've known.
!!!
!!! FBI Agent Dan Flannigan wanted her filmed in a very
!!! compromising position, or as he put it, `Once we do it,
!!! we have her in our hand.'"
!!!
!!! Q: They wanted you to seduce a nun?

!!! -----------------------------------
!!!
!!! "Yes. Yeah. The Bureau was going to provide an apartment
!!! with cameras and you know...With sound equipment and
!!! everything. So we could film the nun while I seduced her."


Done done.


******************************************************************************


ECHELON is NSA's world-wide surveillance network and associated software.

DICTIONARY - Keyword searching with exclusion logi


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so far without enough success to
stop it.

It remains to be seen how much the public can find a technological answer to
maintaining privacy in a world with systems like ECHELON.


*** end of 'Secret Power' excerpt

******************************************************************************


Throughout the Cold War, the United States government pounded into us again
and again how Russia and China were evil because they monitored and controlled
the political expression of their people, had sham laws and sham courts, all
dedicated to maintaining the power of the all-important State.

How the philosophy of communism was the rights of the individual were
subservient to the needs of the State, as determined by the State.
i.e. the antithesis of constitutional democracy

Ironically, it was the United States that built
the ultimate Orwellian surveillance mechanism.

There was no public discussion about it.

And used sham laws: Executive Orders and Congressional legislation.

To create a secret agency and a secret sham court.


Used repeatedly to control lawful domestic political protest.

The Soviet Union and China we were told to fear.


******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************


Part 2: On Monitoring and Being Monitored
---- - -- ---------- --- ----- ---------

o On Monitoring
- Driver's Seat
- Five Months Statistics
- The FBI Investigations
- I Can See What You Are Thinking
- Why I Monitor
o On Being Monitor


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the
> charges and he showed how there were many legitimate uses for cloned
> phones. In front of a jury in Kentucky, he won the case. Unfortunately,
> Cummings' lawyer knew nothing about this and Cummings was forced to plead
> guilty last year in the mistaken belief that he would never be able to
> convince a jury that he hadn't committed a serious crime. Had he been
> found innocent, there never would have been a probation violation and
> Ed would be free today.


How absolutely disgusting of the Secret Service to persecute Ed Cummings.

The Secret Service are the same bunch of Cro-Magnums that put on rubber
gloves to search gay members of Congress visiting the President.

They didn't want to catch any gay cooties.

The President ordered all Secret Service members to take "sensitivity" classes.


There are two more things to know about this case of persecution.

One:

8/30/96
Ed Cummings was savagely beaten by another inmate.
His jaw is shattered, and his arm is also completely shattered.
He had surgery on both his arm and his jaw.
His jaw was so shattered, they had to "slit my throat in two places"
to put the metal in to hold it back together as it mends.
His mouth will be wired shut for 2-3 months.
There is also a chance of nerve damage which
might leave him with permanent droops in his face.

And two:

Cummings was imprisoned under a little known attachment to the
Digital Telephony


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Security Bureau.

P8-9
It was with some apprehension that I learned Nicky Hager was researching the
activity of our intelligence community. He has long been a pain in the
establishment's neck.

There are many things in the book with which I am familiar. I couldn't tell
him which was which. Nor can I tell you.

But it is an outrage that I and other ministers were told so little [yea NSA]
and this raises the question of to whom those concerned saw themselves
ultimately responsible.

David Lange
Prime Minister of New Zealand 1984-89


P9
Another aspect of the Second World War that carried over into the Cold War
era was the close co-operation between five countries - the United States,
the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - formalized with the
UKUSA Security Agreement of 1948.

Although the treaty has never been made public, it has become clear that it
provided not only for a division of collecting tasks and sharing of the
product, but for common guidelines for the classification and protection
of the intelligence collected as well as for personnel security.

P20
New Zealand Prime Minister Robert Muldoon, on June 12 1984, admitted the GCSB
liaised closely with Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United
States - the closest the government has ever come to talking about the secret
five-nation signals intelligence alliance of which the GCSB is part.


P108
The New Zealand analysts have a high level of contact with the overseas
agencies, including overseas staff training, postings and exchanges. In
the early 1990s the GCSB began conducting its own training courses, teaching
them the special procedures and regulations governing the production of
signals intelligence reports for the UKUSA network.

It is at these courses where the analysts are told about the UKUSA


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and controlled an economy was not essentially different
* from the way you managed a war, except that one was an economy of produc-
* tion and the other was an economy of force. The principal underlying both
* was the doctrine of efficiency: maximizing the benefits received from the
* efforts and expenditures---a cost benefit analysis.


Cyberneticians hope to use their capabilities for the
betterment of the human race, of which they are a part.

They are not naive when it comes to the government and politics, either.

* "The Rise of the Computer State", David Burnham, 1984
*
* Norbert Wiener, the MIT professor who is generally credited with being
* one of the principal minds behind the development of the computer,
* refused to take research money from the Pentagon because he was
* convinced it would corrupt his research and undermine his independence.

When Stafford Beer monitored factories and banks to give the government
the necessary tools to govern the economy effectively, he chose to
monitor national infrastructure of the industrial variety.

However, even he knows what can happen
with cybernetic control in the wrong hands:

* "Brain of the Firm", Stafford Beer, 1986, ISBN 0 471 27687 1
*
* If Project Cybersyn were altered, and the tools used are not the
* tools we made, they could become instruments of oppression.

Unlike Stafford Beer, the NSA and FBI have been moving to monitor not
only our bank transactions, but also telephone, fax, Internet,


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Freeh is a Scary Man with the morals of a styrofoam cup.


******************************************************************************

National ID Card
-------- -- ----

* C-SPAN Congressional Television: outside coming down the Senate building's
* steps, Senator Biden with Senator Simpson in tow proclaims: "What's wrong
* with a National ID Card? It's the same tired old arguments against it."

As if sane people shouldn't be paranoid about a National ID Card.

* "New Rules Mean Job-Hunters Need Proof of Identity", The New York Times
*
* Passports, driver's licenses, Social Security cards or birth certificates
* will be allowed to serve as identity papers.
*
* A 1982 proposal to catch illegal aliens by giving American workers
* "counterfeit-proof" identity cards was hooted off the boards as a
* threat to individual liberty.

How bad would a National ID Card be?

Bad. Real bad.

You would be required to carry it at all times.

It's all about surveillance and control.

This section is about the National ID Card, plus deployment of a
mix


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------------------------ cut here ---------------------------------
: begin 644 resume.doc
: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


Person #3
: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
: File: <snip> Size: 5,159 Date: N/NN/NN
: from <female@company>
: rcpt <Dick@outside>
: Subject: la la la la la
:
: Update on my job search: I have a second interview with Fidelity on
: Thursday, to talk about becoming specialist's assistant on the Boston
: Stock Exchange. I have other interviews scheduled next week too.
: The Fidelity job allows me to complete my education as a trader.
: Being a specialist is actually the ultimate in listed trading.
: I feel I am close to something good.
: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[etc]

***************** END OF JOBTALK EXCERPT *********************************

A lot of people use company systems to hunt for another job; for example,
using http://www.jobserve.com/, emailing their resume, etc.

Anyone giving a clear indication they were looking for another job I called
in "resume condition".

When it is a risk management person saying he "wants to explain how it works
here", I write it up as a security incident.

It was extremely rare for a company to use a resume report for anything.

However, there is no description of what to do for any given variation of
this report, so...

When a team of people sent the


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speeding tickets by mail! "Smart" cards
# may be used to automatically track individual people and deduct tolls or
# bus fares.


* REMARKS PREPARED FOR DELIVERY
* Technology and Privacy in Intelligent Transportation Systems
* http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/cfp-its.html Phil Agre :pa...@ucsd.edu
*
* Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy San Francisco, March 1995
*
* Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) are being developed in most of
* the industrialized countries. Promoters of such systems envision
* information technology being applied to transportation systems in a
* variety of ways, primarily on public highways. Applications extend from
* wireless provision of traffic information to drivers to automatic
* toll-collection to law enforcement to totally automated vehicles.
*
* ITS may entail the collection of large amounts of information on the
* travels of particular people, for example through the automatic
* collection of tolls through road-side radio beacons that interact
* with transponders attached to individual cars.
*
* This information obviously invites a wide range of secondary u


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'1984', the ubiquitous 'telescreen' monitored everyone in their homes.

As I have demonstrated --- as if you needed me to tell you --- our phone
conversations are too private, too personal to be monitored in a dragnet
fashion. You find out everything about someone: who their friends are,
what their opinion is on a wide range of matters, whether and who they
are having sex with, the full range of somone's activities and emotions.

The telescreen in everyone's home: the telephone.

* Main Justice, by Jim McGee and Brian Duffy, 1996, ISBN 0-684-81135-9
*
* The FBI had been spying on members of the civil rights movement.
* There had been burglaries and illegal wiretapping on a grand scale.
*
* The FBI obtained recordings of Martin Luther King in embarrassing
* conversations. Agents assembled the most graphic of these recordings
* on a single tape that was circulated to senior government officials
* and newspaper editors.

# "The Emperor Wears No Clothes", by Jack Herer, 1992, ISBN 1-878125-00-1
#
# FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover monitored Martin Luther King's sex life
# for five years and, in the MOST SICK situation, deliberately drove
# actress Jean Seburg to suicide with terrible ongoing federal letters
# and information fed to tabloids exposing her pregnancies and private
# dates with Negroes.

That's an overt use. Worse than that:

They can insidiously enter your life: Qubilah Shabazz was seduced.
Like Bill Murray elaborately seducing Andie MacDowell in 'Groundhog Day'
they can enter your life in an almost unconscious manner. Informants
manage to connect to criminals by running into them in the right p


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the Salvadoran National Guard to let them know the
# individual was on his way home. In this way, the FBI assisted, over a
# three-year period, the work of the Salvadoran death squads.

That's right: the FBI murders people.

* "FBI Killed Unarmed Man, Inquiry Shows", The New York Times, 1/14/97
*
* A 21-year-old murder suspect who the FBI said they shot only after he
* opened fire on them, was unarmed when he was killed.
*
* A spokesman for the FBI, Ann Todd, declined to discuss the discrepancy
* between the FBI's initial report that Mr. Byrd had shot at members of
* the FBI task force and the subsequent discovery by the Union County
* Prosecutor that he was unarmed.
*
* The FBI shot Mr. Byrd to death as he hid under a bed from them.


The FBI had Varelli "plant" a gun.

Thus giving CISPES a terrorist organization designation.

Not only did the FBI hassle them big time, but also the FBI/NSA broke
nationwide into homes and offices that were associated with them and
many other groups, including lawyers offices and churches.

In almost every incident, documents and files were ransacked while office
equipment and other valuable items were left untouched.

# "Foes of Reagan Latin American Policies Fear They're Under Surveillance"
# By David Burnham, The New York Times, April 19, 198?
#
# Among those who have cited incidents Sara Murray, staff organizer with
# the Michigan Interfaith Committee on Central American Rights, said that
# her organization made three separate first-class mailings in the last
# few months but that only one out of about 100 letters was ever delivered.
#
# The Post Office denied any responsibility.
#
# Miss Murray also said someone had broken into her Detroit office and
# stolen a mailing list, several files and two books. [snip]
#
# A free-lance journalist has


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of protest burst yesterday around a Police Department memo that
* orders every detective squad in New York City to collect yearbooks from
* the high schools and junior high schools in its precinct as an aid in
* investigations.
*
* For mugshots.
*
* Lionel Oglesby, 15, of Brooklyn, a sophomore at Washington Irving High
* School in Manhatten, said, "If I haven't done anything wrong, why should
* my picture be taken? Just the thought of having my picture in the Police
* Department makes me uncomfortable.
*
* Another student [NBC TV] said "They've ruined my high school memories that
* the yearbook represented. When I see my yearbook now, that's all I think
* about."
*
* Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, a former Federal Prosecutor, said the yearbooks
* had no constitutional protection. "Too bad. It's not illegal," he said
* at a City Hall news conference on NY1 TV.


What is this?

* "E-Z Pass Living Up To Its Name", By Jane Gross, NYT, 3/25/1997
*
* 570,000 people have decided to use the new E-Z Pass sys


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