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tre...@sirius.com

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mco...@my-deja.com wrote:

>Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?

It's not just you; iName is crap. In addition to what you said, iName spams
its own users, DESPITE you asking them not to. They don't spam you iName
mailbox, they spam the email address you might have innocently given when
signing up.

And if you complain, they close your account. Like you said, they're crap.


mco...@my-deja.com

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I've been using iname.com's forwarding service for about 3-4 years
now. In the past 6-8 months there have been several instances of
slowdowns, lost e-mails, blackhole listings, etc.

The latest one that frosted me was that @Home (my primary ISP)
blacklisted one of their servers. Iname's (aka mail.com) customer
service has only sent me auto-responses to inquiries. I can never get
a real person there, either for original reports or for follow-ups.
@Home won't respond either, which is a pain also.

Iname gets repeated blackhole listings because of open relays. I got a
very nice e-mail from one of the RBL managers explaining his extreme
lack of response when he tried to work with them to resolve a
blacklisting.

If you need to use a forwarding service, go with Yahoo. They've been
fairly reliable for me and will filter incoming spam if you want them
too.

Don't go with iname.com/mail.com unless they offer a specific service
you really need.

You don't suppose they intentionally piss off users who have free
lifetime service in order to get them to quit, do you? If so, it's
just about to work for me.

Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?

- Mark

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Cameron L. Spitzer

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In article <r0nubs84j95vdkaql...@4ax.com>,
tre...@sirius.com wrote:

>mco...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?
>
>It's not just you; iName is crap. In addition to what you said, iName spams
>its own users, DESPITE you asking them not to. They don't spam you iName
>mailbox, they spam the email address you might have innocently given when
>signing up.

Historical note, they used to be not crap. Then they were bought
out by crap Mail.com and turned into crap. Crap.

Cameron


Buster

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tre...@sirius.com wrote:
>
> mco...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?
>
> It's not just you; iName is crap. In addition to what you said, iName spams
> its own users, DESPITE you asking them not to. They don't spam you iName
> mailbox, they spam the email address you might have innocently given when
> signing up.
>

> And if you complain, they close your account. Like you said, they're crap.

Thats exactly what happened to me. After having the account for over a
year without a single message from them:

Spam, unsubscribe, more spam, complain and unsubscribe, mail.com
responds with apology, more spam, unsubscribe again, more spam, complain
again, account deleted without notification.

Meanwhile, the alternative address(es) were also spammed. Those were
one small paragraph about an account that was inactive, a 'reminder'
about it from them, and multiple paragraphs of advertisements. In their
defense, I will say they seem to have changed that policy. I just got
two of those again, but unlike the last time, this time it was basically
just a notification of the account, the only advertisement was for free
business cards if you started using the account again.

They get SOOOO pissed when you call it spam too. They do NOT spam!
It's a subscriber newsletter.

If it looks like a duck.......

nob...@mail.com

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Mar 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/3/00
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tre...@sirius.com writes:

> mco...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?
>
> It's not just you; iName is crap. In addition to what you said, iName spams
> its own users, DESPITE you asking them not to. They don't spam you iName
> mailbox, they spam the email address you might have innocently given when
> signing up.

As I've said before when the issue of mail.com has come up I use them
and have never been spammed by them.

My main criticism of them is that their servers don't identify
themselves using FQDN and don't seem to follow a single naming
convention so analysing the Recieved lines to apply MAPS filtering
to mail relayed via mail.com is unduely messy. (For DUL filtering you
have to be able to pick out the Recieved line where the mail entered
mail.com's servers).

Oh, they did have a problem that when they nuked a spammer's drop box
it was immediately made available for re-issue and so the spamer just
opened it again. However I suspect this is now fixed.

Their custommer service is rather unresponsive - but hey, you get what
you pay for.

They claim to offer spam filtering but I think this is a lie - at
least they've never been prepared to offer any discription of it.
Actually I did once see a bit of mail that they'd tagged as possible
spam - it was not spam.

They explicitly _ask_ that spam recieved _through_ their service be
reported to their abuse address so that they can improve their (non
existant?) filtering and then if you do they seem to wonder why to
sent it to them.

w3

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Mar 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/4/00
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Forget iname and others, if you want to have email forward with your domain,
you can use everyonenet's webmail service, you have email forward option and
your visitors have webmail. They don't send more then 1 newsletter in month,
sometimes that is one letter in two months.

If someone interesting to read short manual how can you setup this for free,
visit my site.


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> >>Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?
> >
> >It's not just you; iName is crap. In addition to what you said, iName
spams
> >its own users, DESPITE you asking them not to. They don't spam you iName
> >mailbox, they spam the email address you might have innocently given when
> >signing up.
>

CC

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hi, i've got a problem logging onto netaddress. It works fine when i
login when connecting to isp A but with no luck in isp B, C or
whatever. It justs kick me out after typing the username + password.
Any comments/help???

Thanks

CC

Richard Johnson

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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> mco...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?
>
> It's not just you; iName is crap. In addition to what you said, iName spams
> its own users, DESPITE you asking them not to. They don't spam you iName
> mailbox, they spam the email address you might have innocently given when
> signing up.
>

> And if you complain, they close your account. Like you said, they're crap.


Even worse, Mail.com sets up forwarders without closed-loop confirmation.

Then they send their "News" spam to the input side of the forwarder via the
services of spam-for-hire houses like BusinessLink (opt-inemail.com [sic]) and
MessageMedia. The destination address of the forwarder is thus victimized by
Mail.com's "News" abuse. To add insult to the injury, Mail.com expects the
victim to "remove" themselves, and then ignores the "remove" request.

This is no different than any other attractive nuisance that slams addresses
into their lists, spams them mercilessly until the victim pleads for relief,
and then doesn't bother to "remove" the victim anyway. (c.f. Microsoft,
Exactis, etc.)

Mail.com belongs in the RBL unless they reform and start at least acting like
a responsible member of the Internet community.


Richard

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Jim Peters

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Mar 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/14/00
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Mark--couldn't have said it better myself. For the last 24 hrs, the server
has been bouncing any messages sent to my address--all after an "upgrade".
Maybe you're right about them wanting to scare off lifetime users.

Jim

mco...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I've been using iname.com's forwarding service for about 3-4 years
> now. In the past 6-8 months there have been several instances of
> slowdowns, lost e-mails, blackhole listings, etc.
>
> The latest one that frosted me was that @Home (my primary ISP)
> blacklisted one of their servers. Iname's (aka mail.com) customer
> service has only sent me auto-responses to inquiries. I can never get
> a real person there, either for original reports or for follow-ups.
> @Home won't respond either, which is a pain also.
>
> Iname gets repeated blackhole listings because of open relays. I got a
> very nice e-mail from one of the RBL managers explaining his extreme
> lack of response when he tried to work with them to resolve a
> blacklisting.
>
> If you need to use a forwarding service, go with Yahoo. They've been
> fairly reliable for me and will filter incoming spam if you want them
> too.
>
> Don't go with iname.com/mail.com unless they offer a specific service
> you really need.
>
> You don't suppose they intentionally piss off users who have free
> lifetime service in order to get them to quit, do you? If so, it's
> just about to work for me.
>

> Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?
>

> - Mark

michael

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Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
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apologies for replying to wrong post... don't have the original post...

> mco...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Iname gets repeated blackhole listings because of open relays. I got a
> > very nice e-mail from one of the RBL managers explaining his extreme
> > lack of response when he tried to work with them to resolve a
> > blacklisting.
> >
> > If you need to use a forwarding service, go with Yahoo. They've been
> > fairly reliable for me and will filter incoming spam if you want them
> > too.

unfortunately, yahoo/geocities also have an open relay at 209.1.224.29 ...
it may be that only mail to @geocities.com addresses goes through it, but
it's open and it has been spammed through...

[snip]


> > Anyone else with problems/opinions on iname.com or mail.com?

my opinion is that they're crap... i gave up on them (and indeed the other
free forwarding services) and now pay for forwarding with my domain name...

michael

Alan J Rosenthal

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Mar 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/15/00
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"michael" <michae...@michaellefevre.com> writes:
>unfortunately, yahoo/geocities also have an open relay at 209.1.224.29 ...
>it may be that only mail to @geocities.com addresses goes through it,

Such a configuration is not an "open relay".

How do you expect geocities to receive e-mail without having an MTA which
can receive mail for geocities?

The problematic "open relay" is an MTA which provides *third-party* relaying,
where the message is neither from nor to the organization running the MTA.

Joe Jared

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Alan J Rosenthal wrote:

Additionally, after seeing that they at least now require a POP before SMTP, I'm
inclined to think if they had a problem, that they have solved it and only allow
valid users access to post through their system..

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st...@blighty.com

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In article <2000Mar15.1...@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu>, fl...@dgp.toronto.edu
says...

>
>"michael" <michae...@michaellefevre.com> writes:
>>unfortunately, yahoo/geocities also have an open relay at 209.1.224.29 ...
>>it may be that only mail to @geocities.com addresses goes through it,
>
>Such a configuration is not an "open relay".

>How do you expect geocities to receive e-mail without having an MTA which
>can receive mail for geocities?
>
>The problematic "open relay" is an MTA which provides *third-party* relaying,
>where the message is neither from nor to the organization running the MTA.

A number of the free email services have/have-had open mail relays which will
happily relay from anyone to anyone, as long as the appropriate domain-name
is in the body From: field.

Cheers,
Steve

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st...@blighty.com

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Cheers,
Steve

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Joe Jared

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Alan J Rosenthal wrote:

> "michael" <michae...@michaellefevre.com> writes:
> >unfortunately, yahoo/geocities also have an open relay at 209.1.224.29 ...
> >it may be that only mail to @geocities.com addresses goes through it,
>
> Such a configuration is not an "open relay".
>
> How do you expect geocities to receive e-mail without having an MTA which
> can receive mail for geocities?
>
> The problematic "open relay" is an MTA which provides *third-party* relaying,
> where the message is neither from nor to the organization running the MTA.

Additionally, after seeing that they at least now require a POP before SMTP, I'm


inclined to think if they had a problem, that they have solved it and only allow
valid users access to post through their system..

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Alan J Rosenthal

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"michael" <michae...@michaellefevre.com> writes:
>unfortunately, yahoo/geocities also have an open relay at 209.1.224.29 ...
>it may be that only mail to @geocities.com addresses goes through it,

Such a configuration is not an "open relay".

How do you expect geocities to receive e-mail without having an MTA which
can receive mail for geocities?

The problematic "open relay" is an MTA which provides *third-party* relaying,
where the message is neither from nor to the organization running the MTA.

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pur...@my-deja.com

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I've notice a problem, too. It has taken mail up to 6 days to be delivered,
that is, if it does arrive. Sometimes it never arrives. Friends tell me that
the mail is bouncing back to them.

mailandnews.com and bigfoot.com have forwarding options and mailandnews.com
has pop access, too. I'm moving off iname/mail.com because it's extremely
unreliable. My next door neighbor (I can shout out of my house and talk to
him) emails me and I don't get the email for 8 hours (if at all)? Looking at
the time in the headers: iname.com is the problem. I can walk over with a
diskette and get a file faster. sheesh!

pur...@my-deja.com

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Mar 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/16/00
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Oh yeah, one more thing. On mail.com's website they have the following
statement:

Unsurpassed Service Mail.com is an industry leader in service response time.
Online Help is always available, but should you need it, customer service
will respond to your questions quickly and efficiently. As a Mail.com member,
you will benefit from the best email service and leading edge messaging
technology.

I guess they don't use their own service.

Grant Warkentin

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pur...@my-deja.com dumped core in <8aq4rd$491$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:

>I've notice a problem, too. It has taken mail up to 6 days to be
>delivered, that is, if it does arrive. Sometimes it never arrives.
>Friends tell me that the mail is bouncing back to them.
>

[snip]

I've never had any problems like that with Iname - although I do not use
that account often. I have been getting my mail quickly thru their service.
My Iname address has started to get spam though. I've had the account for a
few years and it just started to get spam in the last month or so.

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Gary Shapiro

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In article <8aq4rd$491$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, pur...@my-deja.com wrote:

>I've notice a problem, too. It has taken mail up to 6 days to be delivered,
>that is, if it does arrive. Sometimes it never arrives. Friends tell me that
>the mail is bouncing back to them.

I see your six days and raise you six weeks! One email was sent to me
on January 28. Mail.com sat on it (waiting for it to hatch?) and it was
finally delivered on March 13.

iname has customer service but we are not their customers. The
advertisers are the customers.

--
Gary Shapiro <ecdan...@yahoo.com>, a "throwaway" address that goes away
shortly after the spam starts but no sooner than one month from now.

AntiSpam

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Mar 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/16/00
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Gary Shapiro wrote:

> In article <8aq4rd$491$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, pur...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >I've notice a problem, too. It has taken mail up to 6 days to be delivered,
> >that is, if it does arrive. Sometimes it never arrives. Friends tell me that
> >the mail is bouncing back to them.
>
> I see your six days and raise you six weeks! One email was sent to me
> on January 28. Mail.com sat on it (waiting for it to hatch?) and it was
> finally delivered on March 13.
>
> iname has customer service but we are not their customers. The
> advertisers are the customers.

All of Iname.net's mail servers are refusing connections today:

telnet mail-intake-1.iname.net 25
Trying 165.251.8.74...
telnet: connect to address 165.251.8.74: Connection refused
Trying 165.251.8.94...
telnet: connect to address 165.251.8.94: Connection refused
Trying 165.251.8.124...
telnet: connect to address 165.251.8.124: Connection refused
Trying 165.251.8.144...
telnet: connect to address 165.251.8.144: Connection refused
Trying 165.251.8.96...
telnet: connect to address 165.251.8.96: Connection refused
Trying 165.251.8.135...

ad infinitum...

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hef2k

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Mail.com seems to be having problems accessing its web-based
email, particularly with Navigator. Mail.com support has
been unresponsive, only suggesting clearing all caches and
cookies.txt. That helped slightly for the single session.
Their latest form response follows:

=======================================

>Dear Member,

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused, this
issue will be resolved
shortly. In the meantime, please clear your browser's cache
and delete all cookies
on your hard drive to see if this helps.

If you need instructions on how to do this, please reply
with your Internet Browser
(and version number) and the Operating System you are
currently using.

Thank You,

Tonaya L. Watts
Member Service Representative>

================================

In summary, I don't think they have a clue what's going on
or when it will be fixed. Error messages Friday seemed to
indicate that the current problems are associated with some
sort of "upgrade"

-Hef2k


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fb4...@my-deja.com

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In article <8aq5qr$623$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

pur...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Oh yeah, one more thing. On mail.com's website
they have the following
> statement:
>
> Unsurpassed Service Mail.com is an industry
leader in service response time.
> Online Help is always available, but should you
need it, customer service
> will respond to your questions quickly and
efficiently. As a Mail.com member,
> you will benefit from the best email service
and leading edge messaging
> technology.
>
> I guess they don't use their own service.

Some of you may have noticed that Iname.com
(which has been tits-up yet again for must of
today, incidentally) recently won a big contract
from Prodigy to do its mail service.

Wonder if the Prodigy folks know how good their
new partners are?

(They certainly would if everyone who posted here
also forwarded their messages to Ken Domnitz at:
alli...@prodigy.net )

Peronally, I've been losing messages ever since
Mail.com took over the service -- most of the
time without even an error message bouncing back
to the sender.

If the level of service continues at its current,
piss-poor level, and if I've read the sign-up
contract correctly, I'd say there's reasonable
justification for a class-action suit.

-FB4

Ron

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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I have used Mail.com for about 2 years I have had no serious problems.
I have experienced only minor outages, no more than any other service I use.
In all I am pleased with my accounts. Although I do Not use the forward
option, I read my mail on their site.

Ron

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>
>> In article <8aq4rd$491$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, pur...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> >I've notice a problem, too. It has taken mail up to 6 days to be

[SNIP]

Sarah

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fb4...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> In article <8aq5qr$623$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> pur...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Oh yeah, one more thing. On mail.com's website
> they have the following
> > statement:
> >
> > Unsurpassed Service Mail.com is an industry
> leader in service response time.

Yeah, it only took two years to get an address deleted that
had been repeatedly spammed, but was _supposedly_ only a
90-day trial account that I had in _early_ 1997... but
received spam for it until _recently_.

> > Online Help is always available, but should you
> need it, customer service
> > will respond to your questions quickly and
> efficiently.

Never got a single response to my complaints about the
planetmail address still being open and forwarded to me.

As a Mail.com member,
> > you will benefit from the best email service
> and leading edge messaging
> > technology.
> >
> > I guess they don't use their own service.
>
> Some of you may have noticed that Iname.com
> (which has been tits-up yet again for must of
> today, incidentally)

A friend of mine in Finland _just_ got a message that I
_resent_ after iName's servers told me they could not send
it in the previous 4 hours, and I resent it on the 13th of
this month -- 8 days ago. He just got the resent msg
_today_.

> (They certainly would if everyone who posted here
> also forwarded their messages to Ken Domnitz at:
> alli...@prodigy.net )

A little over a year ago, I found myself signed up for
Prodigy without ever giving them a call... never asked them
to add me to their service. They even had my check card
number, and _all the info I gave iName when I set up my mail
account there_. I had to close my checking account and open
a new one to make sure they wouldn't be able to bill my
check card for a service I never wanted, never asked for,
and never authorized the use of my check card for.
Assholes.

> Peronally, I've been losing messages ever since
> Mail.com took over the service -- most of the
> time without even an error message bouncing back
> to the sender.

I keep getting "couldn not send in the last four hours, will
keep trying..." messages.



> If the level of service continues at its current,
> piss-poor level, and if I've read the sign-up
> contract correctly, I'd say there's reasonable
> justification for a class-action suit.

For a _free_ service? Nah.

Cameron L. Spitzer

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I have three Iname aliases. One was worn out by Sanford Wallace,
and never gets spam today. The other two collect about one a day,
between them. All three have been used to post Usenet.
As far as I'm concerned, they're useless now, because Iname/Mail.com
doesn't use Relay Spam Stoppers. RSS would stop about half the
junk they receive.

Since you can't delete an Iname account, the next best thing is to
have it forward someplace else. Would it be abusive to point them
at ab...@mail.com?

Cameron


Sarah

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Well, the planetmail email _finally_ stopped being forwarded
to me (so far)... still get spam for this address
(soli...@earthling.net), but that's not unreasonable.
Have two other iName addresses that I rarely use, and
_NEVER_ on USENET. No spam for those, so far, which is
better than some things I've heard about HOTMAIl addresses.

As far as I can tell, the abuse dept at mail.com/iName is
useless... several times, I have been "warned" by them
because some spammer I've reported to _their_ abuse dept has
thrown a screaming fit at iName about me... once this
current address was suspended for a couple of months because
one asshole objected to my calling him an asshole. Go
figure.

Sarah

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Is _that_ why my iName mail isn't going thru well now?
Shit.

New address time.

Al Iverson wrote:
>
> In article <slrn8dgknt....@truffula.sj.ca.us>,


> spam...@petra.dyndns.org (Cameron L. Spitzer) wrote:
>
> > I have three Iname aliases. One was worn out by Sanford Wallace,
> > and never gets spam today. The other two collect about one a day,
> > between them. All three have been used to post Usenet.
> > As far as I'm concerned, they're useless now, because Iname/Mail.com
> > doesn't use Relay Spam Stoppers. RSS would stop about half the
> > junk they receive.
> >
> > Since you can't delete an Iname account, the next best thing is to
> > have it forward someplace else. Would it be abusive to point them
> > at ab...@mail.com?
>

> Well, I'm not convinced real humans actually read ab...@mail.com. I
> sometimes wonder if they don't only reply with an ignorebot and nothing
> else.
>
> A couple of Iname servers ended up on the RBL recently because an Iname
> user was *directly* spamming me *via* Iname servers. I tried and tried and
> tried to get a useful response out of them. They just sent me back
> incorrect boilerplate replies every time. In fact, those two servers are
> still listed on the RBL as a result of that. I guess Iname doesn't care.
>
> See for yourself:
> http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/ev/165.251.8.70-32.txt
>
> It just blows my mind that Iname doesn't care enough to do something about
> an RBL listing.
>
> Al
>
> --
> Al Iverson - http://www.mnjazz.com/ - Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
> My often outspoken and obnoxious opinions are my own. They are not
> the opinions or official policy of my employer or anyone else.

Inigo Montoya

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Al Iverson wrote:

>It just blows my mind that Iname doesn't care enough to do something about
>an RBL listing.

They don't give a flying crap about much of anything. Supposedly accts
would go inactive after not being used for 90 or 120 days or something like
that. After 6 months, the name I used a few times is still working. I just
ended up forwarding it to a nonexistent address, so any mail that would be
sent there sits on their spool for 4 days and then bounces. Hell with 'em.

--
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Non-spam email: imontoya{at}tinlc{dot}myip{dot}org *NEW*
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