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John B. Smith
Oct 29, 2018, 4:46:48 PM10/29/18
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My Eudora is 7.0.0.16 paid mode (83) and is installed on my XP desktop
machine. Unfortunately this machine has been giving me grief of late
and I wanted to dust off my emergency backup - a Gateway laptop with
Vista I've never used much. I did install Eudora on it at one point.
Now I would like to transfer all the mailboxes to my laptop machine.
The XP's mailboxes all reside in a folder I must have named 'mydata'.
There are a ton of mailboxes and I don't want to recreate them in
Vista one by one. I copied mydata over to the Vista machine into the
Eudora folder, as it exists in my XP machine. No help. I can't see a
way to direct Eudora to look at the mailboxes in mydata. I foggjily
remember that during the install there's a way to tell Eudora where to
find mailboxes?
Reading the Readme.txt it does talk about this folder and a Registry
entry, but I dare not edit the Registry to try and create this link.
Anybody have any ideas for me?
machine. Unfortunately this machine has been giving me grief of late
and I wanted to dust off my emergency backup - a Gateway laptop with
Vista I've never used much. I did install Eudora on it at one point.
Now I would like to transfer all the mailboxes to my laptop machine.
The XP's mailboxes all reside in a folder I must have named 'mydata'.
There are a ton of mailboxes and I don't want to recreate them in
Vista one by one. I copied mydata over to the Vista machine into the
Eudora folder, as it exists in my XP machine. No help. I can't see a
way to direct Eudora to look at the mailboxes in mydata. I foggjily
remember that during the install there's a way to tell Eudora where to
find mailboxes?
Reading the Readme.txt it does talk about this folder and a Registry
entry, but I dare not edit the Registry to try and create this link.
Anybody have any ideas for me?
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
Oct 29, 2018, 5:06:11 PM10/29/18
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Where did you have the "mydata" folder before? BTW, I never reinstall Eudora. I just copy it. Under Vista that worked a champ for me. Likewise under Windows 8. But under Win 10 I've never figured out how to make Eudora my default email app or even tell Windows it is an email app at all. Every new version of Windows has to take away ways of doing things that worked, often leaving no clear way to get it done.
Rick C.
Sid Elbow
Oct 29, 2018, 5:34:20 PM10/29/18
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In your working copy of Eudora go to Help > About
This will tell you where your data directory is. Before going any
further make a backup copy of the data directory (don't skip this and
get into the habit of making periodic backup copies. It'll save you one
day).
On the new machine, copy the data directory to a suitable spot.
It's not clear to me whether you have a copy of the Eudora program
already installed on the new machine. In any event, if you have, I would
suggest that you uninstall that copy and install anew. During the
installation, Eudora asks where the data file should go ... just point
it to the data directory that you created above.
John B. Smith
Oct 30, 2018, 5:24:31 PM10/30/18
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:46:35 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:06:10 -0700 (PDT), gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
>declaimed the following:
>recommended practice even on W95. I have NEVER had my data files in the
>program files directory, and don't recall ever having had to do anything to
>handle them special -- they've always been in the "appdata" directory.
>
> The only reason for needing special options to find the data files goes
>back to before Eudora incorporated multiple personalities -- when one
>needed separate data sets for each INI file (one per personality).
>default applications into new locations -- which Eudora does not know
>about, hence IT can not set itself to be the default. One MUST use the
>Windows control panel to set default applications. However, if one has NOT
>INSTALLED Eudora, then Windows does not know Eudora is even an application
>that might be defined as a default for email.
>
> The Win7 registry change was the last time I had to spend a few minutes
>learning how to set up Eudora as default mail application. Windows 10
>changed the control panel used for such, but the method remained similar
>(and actually, more obvious -- Win7 default mail application was under
>Internet options buried within Internet Explorer configuration as I
>recall).
>
Thanks for the suggestions guys. Especially the tip to look in
Help/About to see where Eudora is looking for mailboxes. I've been in
there hundreds of times but never noticed that folder info.
> My recommendation for the OP...
>
> Install Eudora on the target machine -- do NOT try to override the
>default file locations.
Um.. any particular reason why not to over ride the default? I can't
remember why I chose to make a non-standard folder for them but the
system has worked for me for years.
> Start it up once to ensure user data directory is
>populated. Use Help/About to find out the path to the data directory
>(appdata may be a Windows HIDDEN directory, find the Windows option to make
>it visible if needed). Shut down Eudora.
>
> Copy the contents of the source data directory to the location given by
>Help/About.
> Then, on the new machine, edit Eudora.ini (in the appdata
>directory) replacing any directory paths found with the equivalent location
>on the new machine. For example:
>
>"""
>ReplyTo:ToCc:=1
>AutoReceiveAttachmentsDirectory=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\attach
>TidyAttach=1
>"""
>and
>"""
>[Recent File List]
>File1=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Standard.txt
>File2=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Genealogy.txt
>File3=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Bieberd.txt
>File4=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Baron
>Wulfraed.txt
>"""
>(Those were the ONLY paths I found looking at my INI file)
>
> On restart, Eudora should now find all the
>personalities/mailboxes/filters/etc.
>
>
>>Rick C.
In my struggles I did go looking for Eudora.ini but couldn't find it
in the Eudora folder. Doing a Windows Search I do find in that mydata
folder in my xp machine (working again at the moment.)
I tried installing Eudora again (on Vista machine), but DIDN'T
deinstall first. I used the install option to point to the mydata
directory, as the next poster suggests. Eudora came up with all my
mailboxes but somthing else is messed up and it won't close properly.
I think I'll deinstall next time I'm on the laptop and try
reinstalling from scratch, and using the install option to point to
mydata again.
Your method may have its advantages, probably does as you've been deep
into this stuff. BUT the neccessity of editing the ini file is kinda
overwhelming to me.
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:06:10 -0700 (PDT), gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
>declaimed the following:
>
>>
>>I'm no expert. All I can tell you is how I have mine set up. Eudora was written at a time when all data files for an app were in the app's directory under "Program Files". When protections were turned on this became a bad idea as it was hard to write to these directories. I moved my entire Eudora folder under "Users\...\AppData\Eudora". That not only copies the mailboxes, but all the ini file settings. This also allows me to back up the entire thing at one go.
>>
>
> That has not been the case for at least 3 major releases, and was not
>>
>>I'm no expert. All I can tell you is how I have mine set up. Eudora was written at a time when all data files for an app were in the app's directory under "Program Files". When protections were turned on this became a bad idea as it was hard to write to these directories. I moved my entire Eudora folder under "Users\...\AppData\Eudora". That not only copies the mailboxes, but all the ini file settings. This also allows me to back up the entire thing at one go.
>>
>
>recommended practice even on W95. I have NEVER had my data files in the
>program files directory, and don't recall ever having had to do anything to
>handle them special -- they've always been in the "appdata" directory.
>
> The only reason for needing special options to find the data files goes
>back to before Eudora incorporated multiple personalities -- when one
>needed separate data sets for each INI file (one per personality).
>
>>Where did you have the "mydata" folder before? BTW, I never reinstall Eudora. I just copy it. Under Vista that worked a champ for me. Likewise under Windows 8. But under Win 10 I've never figured out how to make Eudora my default email app or even tell Windows it is an email app at all. Every new version of Windows has to take away ways of doing things that worked, often leaving no clear way to get it done.
>>
>
> Since Win7 the registry has been rearranged, putting the options for
>>Where did you have the "mydata" folder before? BTW, I never reinstall Eudora. I just copy it. Under Vista that worked a champ for me. Likewise under Windows 8. But under Win 10 I've never figured out how to make Eudora my default email app or even tell Windows it is an email app at all. Every new version of Windows has to take away ways of doing things that worked, often leaving no clear way to get it done.
>>
>
>default applications into new locations -- which Eudora does not know
>about, hence IT can not set itself to be the default. One MUST use the
>Windows control panel to set default applications. However, if one has NOT
>INSTALLED Eudora, then Windows does not know Eudora is even an application
>that might be defined as a default for email.
>
> The Win7 registry change was the last time I had to spend a few minutes
>learning how to set up Eudora as default mail application. Windows 10
>changed the control panel used for such, but the method remained similar
>(and actually, more obvious -- Win7 default mail application was under
>Internet options buried within Internet Explorer configuration as I
>recall).
>
Thanks for the suggestions guys. Especially the tip to look in
Help/About to see where Eudora is looking for mailboxes. I've been in
there hundreds of times but never noticed that folder info.
> My recommendation for the OP...
>
> Install Eudora on the target machine -- do NOT try to override the
>default file locations.
Um.. any particular reason why not to over ride the default? I can't
remember why I chose to make a non-standard folder for them but the
system has worked for me for years.
> Start it up once to ensure user data directory is
>populated. Use Help/About to find out the path to the data directory
>(appdata may be a Windows HIDDEN directory, find the Windows option to make
>it visible if needed). Shut down Eudora.
>
> Copy the contents of the source data directory to the location given by
>Help/About.
> Then, on the new machine, edit Eudora.ini (in the appdata
>directory) replacing any directory paths found with the equivalent location
>on the new machine. For example:
>
>"""
>ReplyTo:ToCc:=1
>AutoReceiveAttachmentsDirectory=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\attach
>TidyAttach=1
>"""
>and
>"""
>[Recent File List]
>File1=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Standard.txt
>File2=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Genealogy.txt
>File3=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Bieberd.txt
>File4=C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\Sigs\Baron
>Wulfraed.txt
>"""
>(Those were the ONLY paths I found looking at my INI file)
>
> On restart, Eudora should now find all the
>personalities/mailboxes/filters/etc.
>
>
>>Rick C.
In my struggles I did go looking for Eudora.ini but couldn't find it
in the Eudora folder. Doing a Windows Search I do find in that mydata
folder in my xp machine (working again at the moment.)
I tried installing Eudora again (on Vista machine), but DIDN'T
deinstall first. I used the install option to point to the mydata
directory, as the next poster suggests. Eudora came up with all my
mailboxes but somthing else is messed up and it won't close properly.
I think I'll deinstall next time I'm on the laptop and try
reinstalling from scratch, and using the install option to point to
mydata again.
Your method may have its advantages, probably does as you've been deep
into this stuff. BUT the neccessity of editing the ini file is kinda
overwhelming to me.
Sid Elbow
Oct 31, 2018, 8:22:52 PM10/31/18
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On 10/30/2018 7:35 PM, Jim H wrote:
> Easy, peasy...
>
> Drop the old XP mailboxes (MBX files) and their associated tables of
> contents (TOC files) into the same directory where the MBX files are
> located on the Vista machine... TAKING CARE NOT TO OVERWRITE ANY FILES
> ON THE VISTA MACHINE WITH A FILE OF THE SAME NAME FROM THE XP
> MACHINE.. Then whichever files on the XP machine you couldn't move
> because they would have overwritten files on the vista machine, rename
> those on the XP machine by putting something like ZZ_ in front of
> their name - both MBX and TOC - and move them over.
>
> Now when you start Eudora on the Vista machine it will see the
> mailboxes from the XP machine as well as the original Vista mailboxes.
> Open the ones that begin with ZZ_ and drag the messages in them into
> the corresponding mailboxes without a ZZ_ in front of them. Delete the
> empty ZZ_ folders.
That does, of course transfer the mailboxes from the machine which has
apparently been the working machine (XP) to the machine (Vista) which
hasn't. Which literally answers the question as asked.
It does not however transfer the contents of eudora.ini with any setup
info, passwords etc or any added dlls, plug-ins and a whole bunch of
other stuff. It's OK if *all* you want to do is transfer a few mailbox
files but it's risky if you try to extend it beyond that. I don't think
it's likely to prove very satisfactory.
Which is why others are suggesting more "thorough" methods.
> Easy, peasy...
>
> Drop the old XP mailboxes (MBX files) and their associated tables of
> contents (TOC files) into the same directory where the MBX files are
> located on the Vista machine... TAKING CARE NOT TO OVERWRITE ANY FILES
> ON THE VISTA MACHINE WITH A FILE OF THE SAME NAME FROM THE XP
> MACHINE.. Then whichever files on the XP machine you couldn't move
> because they would have overwritten files on the vista machine, rename
> those on the XP machine by putting something like ZZ_ in front of
> their name - both MBX and TOC - and move them over.
>
> Now when you start Eudora on the Vista machine it will see the
> mailboxes from the XP machine as well as the original Vista mailboxes.
> Open the ones that begin with ZZ_ and drag the messages in them into
> the corresponding mailboxes without a ZZ_ in front of them. Delete the
> empty ZZ_ folders.
That does, of course transfer the mailboxes from the machine which has
apparently been the working machine (XP) to the machine (Vista) which
hasn't. Which literally answers the question as asked.
It does not however transfer the contents of eudora.ini with any setup
info, passwords etc or any added dlls, plug-ins and a whole bunch of
other stuff. It's OK if *all* you want to do is transfer a few mailbox
files but it's risky if you try to extend it beyond that. I don't think
it's likely to prove very satisfactory.
Which is why others are suggesting more "thorough" methods.
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