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Re: Reinstalling Eudora 7.1.0.9 on a Win-7 Machine
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Ajo Wissink
Feb 23, 2016, 12:21:55 PM2/23/16
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:30:52 -0500, Just Judy
<JoodyJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Due to insurmountable problems with Eudora (triggered by most
>recent Avast update); Avast has been uninstalled through control
>panel. Eudora is still inoperable and I'm not trying anything else
>with it; frustration has shot over the moon!
Judy, I am sorry to hear that you have so much trouble. Are you sure
that it has to do with Avast? One of the computers in this household
is running Eudora 7.1.0.9 in Windows 7 with Avast paid and has
absolutely no problems.
> Question 1: Should I remove Eudora via control panel
>before re-installing?
You probably don't have to do that. It is only very rarely that
something is wrong with the program files, but re-installing over the
original installation will not hurt anything because it will not touch
the user's data. When you choose to re-install make sure to save
QCSSL.dll if you had the patched version of that file.
> Question 2: Should I reinstall the new Eudora over the
See above
> Question 3: How about saving my address book, in, out, and
>then moving that old mail into the new mailboxes? toc? mbx? lmos,
>etc.?
Re-installation or un-installing Eudora will not touch your data
files. They will stay where they are now.
BTW, have you told us already the complete paths to you Application
and Data directories? You can see those when you select Help > About
Eudora.
> In the olden daze, we'd label old Eudora "Old Eudora" before
>reinstalling Eudora. Then we'd drag the toc, mbx, etc. to the new
>Eudora before deleting "Old Eudora."
>
> Does that still apply?
I have never done anything like that. I started with version 1.52 and
have always installed newer versions over the old one. It was not
necessary to bother with data files because they stayed where they
were. The only special thing I have done was separating data and
program files. I think that was in version 3 around 1997
Ajo Wissink
<JoodyJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Due to insurmountable problems with Eudora (triggered by most
>recent Avast update); Avast has been uninstalled through control
>panel. Eudora is still inoperable and I'm not trying anything else
>with it; frustration has shot over the moon!
Judy, I am sorry to hear that you have so much trouble. Are you sure
that it has to do with Avast? One of the computers in this household
is running Eudora 7.1.0.9 in Windows 7 with Avast paid and has
absolutely no problems.
> Question 1: Should I remove Eudora via control panel
>before re-installing?
You probably don't have to do that. It is only very rarely that
something is wrong with the program files, but re-installing over the
original installation will not hurt anything because it will not touch
the user's data. When you choose to re-install make sure to save
QCSSL.dll if you had the patched version of that file.
> Question 2: Should I reinstall the new Eudora over the
See above
> Question 3: How about saving my address book, in, out, and
>then moving that old mail into the new mailboxes? toc? mbx? lmos,
>etc.?
Re-installation or un-installing Eudora will not touch your data
files. They will stay where they are now.
BTW, have you told us already the complete paths to you Application
and Data directories? You can see those when you select Help > About
Eudora.
> In the olden daze, we'd label old Eudora "Old Eudora" before
>reinstalling Eudora. Then we'd drag the toc, mbx, etc. to the new
>Eudora before deleting "Old Eudora."
>
> Does that still apply?
I have never done anything like that. I started with version 1.52 and
have always installed newer versions over the old one. It was not
necessary to bother with data files because they stayed where they
were. The only special thing I have done was separating data and
program files. I think that was in version 3 around 1997
Ajo Wissink
Micky
Feb 24, 2016, 10:13:33 PM2/24/16
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:13:24 -0500, Just Judy
<JoodyJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:21:47 -0400, Ajo Wissink
><a...@notrealaddress.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Due to insurmountable problems with Eudora (triggered by most
>>>recent Avast update); Avast has been uninstalled through control
>>>panel. Eudora is still inoperable and I'm not trying anything else
>>>with it; frustration has shot over the moon!
>>
>>Judy, I am sorry to hear that you have so much trouble. Are you sure
>>that it has to do with Avast? One of the computers in this household
>>is running Eudora 7.1.0.9 in Windows 7 with Avast paid and has
>>absolutely no problems.
>
> The web is crammed full of stories of the conflict beween
>Eudora and the latest update to Avast Premier, and the problem on my
>friend's machine occurred 7 minutes after the update. There may be
>some other evil force at work here, but I'm darned if I can guess what
>it is. I'm just really bummed that Eudora has let me down for the
>first time since 1997. Fortunately, it is still working on my own
>machine!
>
> I've conceded defeat. Nothing I've tried, short of kicking
>the machine into the river, offers any hope of success. But I want to
>thank all those who jumped in to help this sinking ship. Y'all are
>the greatest!
Is this your copy or your friend's?
At any rate, there's someone in the mailing list who seems to blame
Avast, don't know what version, for messing up her Spamnix, though she
hasn't made her case very well. I wonder
BTW:
> I went back to her SSL page; the skull & crossbones were gone,
>but there were a lot of emoticons sticking out their tongue at me. No
>matter how many times I highlighted and "Add to trusted certificates
There was no point in Adding to Trusted the ones with the tongues,
because they were already trusted.
>...," when I closed the page and tried to check mail, from Eudora's
>Task Errors window, there was "<Dominant> ... SSL negotiation has
>failed. Unknown error. Cause 200."
>
> AND under Certificate Information Manager," it says "Generated
>by Avast Antivirus for SSL/TLS scanning." (Her Avast Premium
>subscription is paid up through October 2016.) I turned off its mail
>protection setting, but that didn't help.
>
> I'd go back to the SSL Certificate Information Manager and the
>"the frowny face with tongue sticking out returned.
Remained.
Nonetheless, I thought you'd gotten past the certificate problem and
moved on to some other problem but you never posted about another
problem.
Certificate problems seem to take many tries to fix, the first time,
but they can be fixed. What is the error message you get.
BTW, if you reinstalled Eudora, that would have putin the original
QCSSL.dll back in, and that would make the first attempt to get mail
take a lonngggg time, and likely time out, but I thought the second
attempt would not be affected. ?? Eventually, soon, the patched
version of the dll file should be put back in, following a reinstall.
> Does anyone have any advice? KISS instructions are most
>appreciated. Y'all have been helping me since 1997; I'm hoping for
>your magic again now!
>
>With much thanks,
>
<JoodyJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:21:47 -0400, Ajo Wissink
><a...@notrealaddress.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Due to insurmountable problems with Eudora (triggered by most
>>>recent Avast update); Avast has been uninstalled through control
>>>panel. Eudora is still inoperable and I'm not trying anything else
>>>with it; frustration has shot over the moon!
>>
>>Judy, I am sorry to hear that you have so much trouble. Are you sure
>>that it has to do with Avast? One of the computers in this household
>>is running Eudora 7.1.0.9 in Windows 7 with Avast paid and has
>>absolutely no problems.
>
>Eudora and the latest update to Avast Premier, and the problem on my
>friend's machine occurred 7 minutes after the update. There may be
>some other evil force at work here, but I'm darned if I can guess what
>it is. I'm just really bummed that Eudora has let me down for the
>first time since 1997. Fortunately, it is still working on my own
>machine!
>
> I've conceded defeat. Nothing I've tried, short of kicking
>the machine into the river, offers any hope of success. But I want to
>thank all those who jumped in to help this sinking ship. Y'all are
>the greatest!
Is this your copy or your friend's?
At any rate, there's someone in the mailing list who seems to blame
Avast, don't know what version, for messing up her Spamnix, though she
hasn't made her case very well. I wonder
BTW:
> I went back to her SSL page; the skull & crossbones were gone,
>but there were a lot of emoticons sticking out their tongue at me. No
>matter how many times I highlighted and "Add to trusted certificates
There was no point in Adding to Trusted the ones with the tongues,
because they were already trusted.
>...," when I closed the page and tried to check mail, from Eudora's
>Task Errors window, there was "<Dominant> ... SSL negotiation has
>failed. Unknown error. Cause 200."
>
> AND under Certificate Information Manager," it says "Generated
>by Avast Antivirus for SSL/TLS scanning." (Her Avast Premium
>subscription is paid up through October 2016.) I turned off its mail
>protection setting, but that didn't help.
>
> I'd go back to the SSL Certificate Information Manager and the
>"the frowny face with tongue sticking out returned.
Remained.
Nonetheless, I thought you'd gotten past the certificate problem and
moved on to some other problem but you never posted about another
problem.
Certificate problems seem to take many tries to fix, the first time,
but they can be fixed. What is the error message you get.
BTW, if you reinstalled Eudora, that would have putin the original
QCSSL.dll back in, and that would make the first attempt to get mail
take a lonngggg time, and likely time out, but I thought the second
attempt would not be affected. ?? Eventually, soon, the patched
version of the dll file should be put back in, following a reinstall.
> Does anyone have any advice? KISS instructions are most
>appreciated. Y'all have been helping me since 1997; I'm hoping for
>your magic again now!
>
>With much thanks,
>
Ajo Wissink
Feb 28, 2016, 5:26:11 PM2/28/16
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:17:03 -0500, Just Judy
<JoodyJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I tried re-installing it on top of itself; I tried deleting it
>via control panel and doing a fresh install; I tried doing a new
>download of 7.1.0.9, and naming it Eudora 2016, and I tried doin' the
>hokey pokey ... but nothing worked. I'm done!
OK, you have uninstalled Avast, reinstalled Eudora and you still get
SSL errors. Right? Are you sure that the settings for Comcast are
correct? We can probably tell you. Go to Tools > Personalities,
right-click on the Persona in question and select "Properties".
A window will pop up with 2 tabs at the top. Tell us what you see when
you click each one. (You may replace some of the information by xxx's
if you prefer)
Ajo Wissink
<JoodyJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I tried re-installing it on top of itself; I tried deleting it
>via control panel and doing a fresh install; I tried doing a new
>download of 7.1.0.9, and naming it Eudora 2016, and I tried doin' the
>hokey pokey ... but nothing worked. I'm done!
OK, you have uninstalled Avast, reinstalled Eudora and you still get
SSL errors. Right? Are you sure that the settings for Comcast are
correct? We can probably tell you. Go to Tools > Personalities,
right-click on the Persona in question and select "Properties".
A window will pop up with 2 tabs at the top. Tell us what you see when
you click each one. (You may replace some of the information by xxx's
if you prefer)
Ajo Wissink
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