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Eudora 7 and MAPI

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Michael Wyland

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Jan 15, 2009, 5:35:51 PM1/15/09
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To all:

I'm trying to get Adobe Acrobat Professional 8 to activate Eudora when
selecting the e-mail icon. It activates Outlook, despite the fact that
Windows knows that Eudora is my e-mail program of choice.

I tried activating MAPI in Eudora, only to receive an error message sayng
that either MAPI.DLL or MAPI32.DLL was in use. I closed all applications
and even opened Task Manager to verify that no applications were accessing
either DLL file. Still, I get the error.

Based on my reading of the Acrobaty 8 documentation, I should have MAPI
enabled in Eudora for this to work. True? Second, what am I missing in
activating MAPI in Eudora?

All programs are updated to latest revisions, and I'm running Windows Vista
32-bit with SP1 installed and patched to latest revisions.

Any help appreciated. Thanks!


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John H Meyers

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Jan 16, 2009, 4:51:31 PM1/16/09
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:35:51 -0600, Michael Wyland wrote:

> I'm trying to get Adobe Acrobat Professional 8 to activate Eudora when
> selecting the e-mail icon. It activates Outlook, despite the fact that
> Windows knows that Eudora is my e-mail program of choice.

As designed long ago by Microsoft, which didn't think ahead far enough
to perceive how much conflict this would cause, especially in Vista,
MAPI uses the system called upon by whoever's MAPI DLLs are installed in Windows,
which requires you (or your email program) to install its own DLLs,
which Eudora would do for you, if you set its MAPI options accordingly,
except that Windows (especially Vista ) won't let Eudora do that,
unless it is already running with elevated privileges.

Actually, it's said that Vista should let the default email program
replace (and later restore) the MAPI DLLs, but this may mean that Eudora
needs to be the system-wide default email program -- I don't know any more details.

The fact that there is just one set of these DLLs in Windows
may cause different programs to fight over installing them,
and may also cause some confusion when it comes to restoring
whatever was originally present.

An example of this confusion:
http://www.ctimls.com/Support/KB/Error%20Fixes/Fix_Mapi_error.htm

> I tried activating MAPI in Eudora, only to receive an error message sayng
> that either MAPI.DLL or MAPI32.DLL was in use. I closed all applications
> and even opened Task Manager to verify that no applications were accessing

> either DLL file. Still, I get the error. I'm running Windows Vista.

"MAPI DLL Error when Launching Eudora"
(also explains how to manually install or restore the DLLs)
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1897hq.html

Only an administrator can install or restore DLLs, however.

One way to bypass the entire MAPI issue is to simply drag any file
from Windows Explorer to the headers area of any outgoing Eudora message,
which directly attaches the dragged file to the message.

The following talks about what MAPI is, but is of no help in using it:

"Messaging Application Programming Interface"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAPI

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Ajo Wissink

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Jan 17, 2009, 6:56:18 AM1/17/09
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:51:31 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>One way to bypass the entire MAPI issue is to simply drag any file
> from Windows Explorer to the headers area of any outgoing Eudora message,
>which directly attaches the dragged file to the message.

It's even a bit simpler than that. Drag the file to *any* place in
the Eudora window. You don't even need to have a "New Message" open.

John H Meyers

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Jan 17, 2009, 12:43:35 PM1/17/09
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:56:18 -0600:

[re attaching files via dragging to Eudora windows]

> It's even a bit simpler than that. Drag the file to *any* place in
> the Eudora window. You don't even need to have a "New Message" open.

Might dragging something into an open message body
ever be taken instead as an "embed," rather than an "attach"?

Since Eudora supports multiple documents simultaneously open,
results of dragging "anywhere" can vary
(will certainly attach to a specific unsent message dragged into,
else will open a new outgoing message,
even if another outgoing message is already open).

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Michael Wyland

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Jan 26, 2009, 11:43:14 AM1/26/09
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Thanks to all. For whatever reason, Vista won't let Eudora install its MAPI
drivers. I'm stuck with drag-and-drop. It works, but it's not as elegant.
Oh, well!

John H Meyers

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Jan 30, 2009, 10:23:32 AM1/30/09
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:43:14 -0600, Michael Wyland wrote:

> For whatever reason,
> Vista won't let Eudora install its MAPI drivers.

A section of the Eudora manual, "MAPI Technical Report,"
provides a great deal of information about this,
and a subsection "Eudora DLL Swapping Restrictions"
may help pinpoint (or even solve?) the issue,
if the DLL itself still works in Vista, and if you want
to keep Eudora's DLLs installed all the time ("Always" in Eudora)

Of couse, only an administrator can carry out the steps.

When the time comes that the original DLLs are not "locked"
(no MAPI-related programs are running, including Eudora),
the "swEudora.exe" program might be "run as administrator,"
to see whether it can help.

"MAPI DLL Error when Launching Eudora"

http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1897hq.html
http://eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2048hq.html

"FAQ: Eudora as default emailer,
getting other programs to use Eudora, fix MAPI issues"
http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showpost.php?p=12268

Document "868hq" (why Word has no Send option) is obsolete.

Related:
http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?t=13583
(but leaving UAC off compromises Vista security)

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