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ijo...@jejejeje.it

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Sep 17, 2019, 12:42:14 PM9/17/19
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Hi, I use Eudora 7.1 and I have several katamail.com accounts but they
don't download the mails anymore. Unbelievable but true. I configured
them with pop.katamail.com and smtp.katamail.com
What should I do toget the mails again? Has anything changed in the
parameters? Thanks

ijo...@jejejeje.it

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Sep 18, 2019, 12:31:19 AM9/18/19
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> How are the personalities configured?

Generic Properties
Email address: lu...@katamail.com
User Name: lu...@katamail.com
SMTP Server: mail.tin.it
Secure Socket when sending: Never

Incoming mail
Server: pop.katamail.com
Configuration: POP (checked)
Secure Socket when checking: Never

When I chek for new emails I get this error:
ERR Account is temporarily unavailable

I'm not an expert and I can't verify other settings, sorry.
I only know those settings worked well some time ago.
Thank you!

ijo...@jejejeje.it

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Sep 18, 2019, 10:20:40 AM9/18/19
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Hello, thanks for your reply. I changed to "smtp.katamail.com" and "If
available, STARTTLS" but nothing changed. What a pity.


>>Generic Properties
>>Email address: lu...@katamail.com
>>User Name: lu...@katamail.com
>>SMTP Server: mail.tin.it
>>Secure Socket when sending: Never
>>
>
> That implies you submit the mail using a different server, not directly
>to a katamail server -- unless tin.it owns katamail. You might need a relay
>personality using the tin.it account.
>
>>Incoming mail
>>Server: pop.katamail.com
>>Configuration: POP (checked)
>>Secure Socket when checking: Never
>>
>
> I'd still suggest trying "If available, STARTTLS"
>
>>When I chek for new emails I get this error:
>>ERR Account is temporarily unavailable
>
> That error normally would imply the problem is at the server end. You'd
>have to talk to them.

ijo...@jejejeje.it

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Sep 18, 2019, 4:24:31 PM9/18/19
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Hey, have just created a new account with "gmx.com". It is able to
check the emails but it is not able to send emails.
I configured it in this way:
SMTP SERVER: smtp.gmx.com
POP: pop.gmx.com
When I try to send an email I get this error:
ERROR Talking to SMTP Server (554 smtp205.alice.it Service not
available).
Why do I have this problem?
Thanks

Piet

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Sep 19, 2019, 4:29:31 AM9/19/19
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ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> Generic Properties
> Email address: ...@katamail.com
> User Name: ...@katamail.com
> SMTP Server: mail.tin.it

What does katamail.com have to do with tin.it?
katamail.com belongs to tiscali.
tin.it belongs to telecom italia.

-p

ijo...@jejejeje.it

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Sep 19, 2019, 5:52:52 AM9/19/19
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Hi Piet,
thanks for your reply. Sometimes I put another ser4ver when the
proprietary senrver desn't work. When I put "out.alice.it" on SMTP
gmail server, it works fine.

Now I changed the settings to my "gmx.com" account, now I put
"smtp.tiscali.it" and "pop.tiscali.it", but it doesn't work again.
Maybe do I have to enter to the Tiscali web site and enjoyTiscali?

Anyway doing some search I'm noticing I have to choose 465 Port.
How can I choose the 465 Port in Edudora? I don't see this option.
Thanks

Piet

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Sep 19, 2019, 4:37:30 PM9/19/19
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Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> ijones wrote:
>> Hey, have just created a new account with "gmx.com". It is able to
>> check the emails but it is not able to send emails.
>> I configured it in this way:
>> SMTP SERVER: smtp.gmx.com
>> POP: pop.gmx.com
>
> Again you do not provide enough information... You named the servers,
> but NOT the connection style...

Nor the recipient.

>> When I try to send an email I get this error:
>> ERROR Talking to SMTP Server (554 smtp205.alice.it Service not available).
>
> This is not the same server you stated to have set up...

The recipient could have an alice.it address or some other address
for which the MX RR points to smtp.alice.it. The error message would
then be the one received in the on-the-fly connection by smtp.gmx.com
to smtp.alice.it (which itself could be a cluster).
The "service not available" could be the final result of a number of
failed attempts to connect to smtp.alice.it, but it could also denote
"mail is spam" or "sender IP blacklisted". The problem with 554 is that
it has always been (ab)used as a last resort where no other 5xx really
applies. The same goes for "service not available". The best explanation
I've seen sofar is "The transaction failed. Blame it on the weather".

-p

ijo...@jejejeje.it

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Sep 19, 2019, 5:36:16 PM9/19/19
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Demis, after reading your suggestion I solved my problems.
I chose: mail.gmx.com and 587 Port. Now everything is OK.
I thank you a lot.



>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 22:24:29 +0200, ijo...@jejejeje.it declaimed the
>following:
>
>>Hey, have just created a new account with "gmx.com". It is able to
>>check the emails but it is not able to send emails.
>>I configured it in this way:
>>SMTP SERVER: smtp.gmx.com
>>POP: pop.gmx.com
>
> Again you do not provide enough information... You named the servers,
>but NOT the connection style...
>
>
>>When I try to send an email I get this error:
>>ERROR Talking to SMTP Server (554 smtp205.alice.it Service not
>>available).
>
> This is not the same server you stated to have set up...
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>ping smtp.gmx.com
>
>Pinging smtp.gmx.com [212.227.17.174] with 32 bytes of data:
>Reply from 212.227.17.174: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=240
>Reply from 212.227.17.174: bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=240
>Reply from 212.227.17.174: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=240
>Reply from 212.227.17.174: bytes=32 time=147ms TTL=240
>
>Ping statistics for 212.227.17.174:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 143ms, Maximum = 151ms, Average = 148ms
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>ping smtp205.alice.it
>
>Pinging smtp205.alice.it [82.57.200.101] with 32 bytes of data:
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
>
>Ping statistics for 82.57.200.101:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>
>
>>Why do I have this problem?
>
>https://support.gmx.com/pop-imap/imap/windowsmailapp.html
>"""
>Outgoing (SMTP) server:mail.gmx.com
>Port (outgoing server): 587
>Outgoing Server requires SSL: No (uncheck)
>"""
>
> So... two things... You have the "wrong" name for the SMTP server, and
>you need to use the 587 "submission" port. (I put "wrong" in quotes as it
>turns out smtp.gmx.com:587 will connect). Using port 25 will not connect.
>
>
> I have a strong suspicion that, by this time, you have multiple
>personalities all misconfigured, since you got an error message from
>"alice.it" -- so far, you've had FOUR different ISP/email providers in your
>posts:
>
>gmx.com
>katamail.com
>alice.it
>tin.it
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>nslookup mail.gmx.com
>Server: dsldevice6.attlocal.net
>Address: 2600:1700:e630:890::1
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name: mail.gmx.com
>Addresses: 212.227.17.184
> 212.227.17.174
>
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>nslookup smtp.gmx.com
>Server: dsldevice6.attlocal.net
>Address: 2600:1700:e630:890::1
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name: smtp.gmx.com
>Addresses: 212.227.17.174
> 212.227.17.184
>
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>nslookup pop.gmx.com
>Server: dsldevice6.attlocal.net
>Address: 2600:1700:e630:890::1
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name: pop.gmx.com
>Addresses: 212.227.17.187
> 212.227.17.171
>
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>nslookup smtp205.alice.it
>Server: dsldevice6.attlocal.net
>Address: 2600:1700:e630:890::1
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name: smtp205.alice.it
>Address: 82.57.200.101
>
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>nslookup mail.tin.it
>Server: dsldevice6.attlocal.net
>Address: 2600:1700:e630:890::1
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name: mail.tin.it
>Address: 62.211.72.20
>
>
>C:\Users\Wulfraed>nslookup smtp.katamail.com
>Server: dsldevice6.attlocal.net
>Address: 2600:1700:e630:890::1
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name: smtp.katamail.com
>Address: 213.205.35.70
>
>
>smtp.katamail.com
> uses port 465, won't connect on 25 or 587. On Eudora, that means
>"Required, Alternate Port" is the only choice. If katamail doesn't like
>SSL, you are probably out of luck.
>
>mail.tin.it
> uses port 587 ("submission port"), I'd recomment "If Available,
>STARTTLS" (that way, if they support it, you get encrypted traffic rather
>than clear text)
>
>mail.gmx.com / smtp.gmx.com
> uses port 587 -- again I recommend also "If Available, STARTTLS"
>
>smtp205.alice.it
> DOES NOT CONNECT ON any PORT (SMTP 25, deprecated ALTERNATE 465,
>SUBMISSION 587)
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