question
Bryan Peabody
I have two internet accounts. One a mindspring dialup and a comcast
cable modem account. I always use the comcast connection for internet
access and I use my mindspring email address. I would like to be able
to send email via the mindspring account using the comcast connection.
Is this possible? Is it possible with Eurdora, or any other email client?
Thanks,
Bryan
Daniel Jacobson
Try:
The easiest thing to do is just try it. Some ISP's will authenicate
you as a valid user, others will not. However, you may have to check
for mail before you send.
--
Over and Out
Daniel Jacobson
Rich Cervenka
news:IwHa8.20537$td.52...@news2.nash1.tn.home.com:
No.
MindSpring (EarthLink) does not allow relaying. That's what they call
what you want to do. They say that this restriction is put on to
hinder spammers. Most ISP's are doing this nowadays.
If you want to send mail via the MindSpring account, you must be
logged on through a MindSpring (EarthLink) connection.
--
Rich Cervenka
Chicago, Illinois, USA
Newsreader: Xnews http://xnews.3dnews.net/
E-mail Manager: MailWasher http://www.mailwasher.net/
Gorham
time in a different way. The entire personality, including return
address, shows on one ISP but the smtp connection is to the one actually
connected. That way, unless full headers are displayed, it appears I'm
sending from one I'm not on.
HTH.
G.
WD Baseley
<gor...@po-removethispart-box.com> stated:
>You've already read that you can't do it directly. But I do it all the
>time in a different way. The entire personality, including return
>address, shows on one ISP but the smtp connection is to the one actually
>connected. That way, unless full headers are displayed, it appears I'm
>sending from one I'm not on.
Creating a personality with the Mindspring address and the Comcast
server information might work; it depends on whether Comcast allows
other addresses to be used. Mindspring *does* allow this; so, if this
example were reversed, the poster would be able to use his Comcast
address and send through the Mindspring servers.
rgds,
WD Baseley
Psychomation
> This has probably been asked a million times but....
It has and several people have already answered you. This is for others
who may be getting confused and who might actually want to understand.
Ages ago, all mail servers were open relays. This was the open model
the Internet was built on. However, it was soon seen that spammers
would use anyone's server to send out millions of obnoxious and often
illegal emails. They still look for and exploit open relays and they
find new ones every day.
If you are connected to an ISP, they control what happens on their
network - they know *who* you are and *where* you are calling from and
they can block ports to allow or not allow any kind of activity. It's
*their* network. The key is, *IF* you are connected to this ISP.
Your ISP may have crummy mail service from time to time and you may
want to use another server for outgoing mail. How can this server
authenticate you since you are not connected to it directly?
The easiest and most popular remedy to this problem on the ISP side
uses a simple technique: when you *read* mail (or headers) on the
server you must identify yourself with username/password. After you
have done so, a short-term record is kept on the server of your IP
address.
Kind of like a guest list at a popular disco, while you are logged in
the server sees you (even hours or days later depending on how they
have it set up) and says, "hey, she's cool, been here before, we know
her".
This is why you almost always need to check mail before sending. If you
are dialing in on a modem, your IP address will usually change every
time you dial up; in this case, you have to check mail whether you need
to or not before you will be allowed to send any. On ISDN which dials
up on demand this can become an irritating task.
I hope the horrible abuse of bandwidth above is of some use to someone
who doesn't think like a machine.
psy
Latenite
The answer to this question is yes and no. As an member of Earthlink
(Mindspring) you can use smtpauth.earthlink.net as your out going server.
Provided the ISP that you are connecting to allows for port 25 access, then
you should be able to send mail...provided your mail client will send your
full email address and password for the smtp authencation. This is the yes
part.
The no part is that in later versions of Eudora (can't remeber back when it
did work) your full email address is not snet as the user id. i have been
dealing with this for some time. Eudora will only send the pop account
username as the logn in id for the smtpauth server. Since this server
requires the full eamil address, this is a no go.
I have spoken to the folks at Earthlink about this. They were not aware of
the limitations of Eudora in this manner. They may make some pop server
changes to allow for full email address login, so that Eudora passes the
correct info. Chances are however, it will need to be Eudora that updates
their software to correct this.
I have found a non Eudora work around that may help (depends on the users
ISP, in your case Comcast). If you are interested reply to me in private and
I will let you in the know.
Sorry to burst the bubble on this one. It would be nice if The Eudora folks
picked up on this and made a quick update. I dunno.
Mike
"Adam Kippes" <adam....@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:rlvn6u47hgqpfcfnt...@4ax.com...
> In <Xns91B53803C5EERG...@198.99.146.10>, Rich Cervenka
> wrote:
>
> > If you want to send mail via the MindSpring account, you must be
> > logged on through a MindSpring (EarthLink) connection.
>
> Rich, no SMTP authentication of any sort?
>
> -- AK
>
> --
> Please reply to the newsgroup. That is why it exists.
Latenite
The answer to this question is yes and no. As an member of Earthlink
(Mindspring) you can use smtpauth.earthlink.net as your out going server.
Provided the ISP that you are connecting to allows for port 25 access, then
you should be able to send mail...provided your mail client will send your
part.
The no part is that in later versions of Eudora (can't remember back when it
did work) your full email address is not sent as the user id. I have been
dealing with this for some time. Eudora will only send the pop account
username as the log in id for the smtpauth server. Since this server
requires the full email address, this is a no go.
I have spoken to the folks at Earthlink about this. They were not aware of
the limitations of Eudora in this manner. They may make some pop server
changes to allow for full email address login, so that Eudora passes the
correct info. Chances are however, it will need to be Eudora that updates
their software to correct this.
I have found a non Eudora work around that may help (depends on the users
ISP, in your case Comcast). If you are interested reply to me in private and
I will let you in the know.
Sorry to burst the bubble on this one. It would be nice if The Eudora folks
picked up on this and made a quick update. I dunno.
Mike
"Adam Kippes" <adam....@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:rlvn6u47hgqpfcfnt...@4ax.com...
> In <Xns91B53803C5EERG...@198.99.146.10>, Rich Cervenka
> wrote:
>
> > If you want to send mail via the MindSpring account, you must be
> > logged on through a MindSpring (EarthLink) connection.
>
Daniel Jacobson
>>> If you want to send mail via the MindSpring account, you must be
>>> logged on through a MindSpring (EarthLink) connection.
>> Rich, no SMTP authentication of any sort?
> The answer to this question is yes and no. As an member of Earthlink
> (Mindspring) you can use smtpauth.earthlink.net as your out going server.
> Provided the ISP that you are connecting to allows for port 25 access, then
> you should be able to send mail...provided your mail client will send your
> full email address and password for the smtp authencation. This is the yes
> part.
>
> The no part is that in later versions of Eudora (can't remeber back when it
> did work) your full email address is not snet as the user id. i have been
> dealing with this for some time. Eudora will only send the pop account
> username as the logn in id for the smtpauth server. Since this server
> requires the full eamil address, this is a no go.
>
> I have spoken to the folks at Earthlink about this. They were not aware of
> the limitations of Eudora in this manner. They may make some pop server
> changes to allow for full email address login, so that Eudora passes the
> correct info. Chances are however, it will need to be Eudora that updates
> their software to correct this.
>
> I have found a non Eudora work around that may help (depends on the users
> ISP, in your case Comcast). If you are interested reply to me in private and
> I will let you in the know.
>
> Sorry to burst the bubble on this one. It would be nice if The Eudora folks
> picked up on this and made a quick update. I dunno.
Try:
Add this parm to setting section of the Eudora.ini or each personality
you wish to send thru. Also, you must check mail first. Worth a try.
UsePOPSend=1
Simon Kuipers
<resm...@cswebmail.com> wrote:
>If you are connected to an ISP, they control what happens on their
>network - they know *who* you are and *where* you are calling from and
>they can block ports to allow or not allow any kind of activity. It's
>*their* network. The key is, *IF* you are connected to this ISP.
>
>Your ISP may have crummy mail service from time to time and you may
>want to use another server for outgoing mail. How can this server
>authenticate you since you are not connected to it directly?
>
>The easiest and most popular remedy to this problem on the ISP side
>uses a simple technique: when you *read* mail (or headers) on the
>server you must identify yourself with username/password. After you
>have done so, a short-term record is kept on the server of your IP
>address.
>
But why having all these troubles? When you run your own smtp server
you will have no problem at all sending mail. I have been using
Postcast Server for several months now and I am very satisfied with
this product. No dependencies on ISP's anymore! (except for using the
DNS, but you did already make use of that one, didn't you?)
Simon
Psychomation
> What does that mean - who is the "someone" to whom you refer?
anyone at all! I may be wrong but often a simple explanation of this
kind of common irritating machine "behaviour" (to people who aren't big
on computer technologies) is useful. Course it can then irritate others
who are savvy in these things, especially when the simplified
explanation omits 90% of the theoretical possibilities.
We all remember the "server is unreachable" message. In the old days, I
used to get calls about this all the time. It finally became common
knowledge that somehow this means you either are not connected or the
server (or the DNS) really *is* down. Most people now realize that if
they try a site, get the unreachable" message and then try
www.yahoo.com or google or hp or ibm, whatever, if two or more
disparate serveurs are down, there is something wrong with *your*
connection (or you aren't connected at all.) Of course "something wrong
with your connection" could be one or more of about 20 problems...
Gosh, more bandwidth abuse. Sorry, this is a Eudora board. Sorry
Sorry...
psy
Psychomation
> I have been
> using Postcast Server for several months now and I am very
> satisfied with this product. No dependencies on ISP's anymore!
Yes, you can also catch your own fish, bake your own bread, be your own
stock broker and haul your own ashes. Not everyone is comfortable with
setting up servers on their computers. You got me curious though, I'll
have to take a look at Postcast.
In defense of self-service, you can find plenty of support from others
on usenet for any product you do use, even Microsoft. Or Eudora.
psy
Mark O'Connor
"Bryan Peabody" <""bryanp1976\"@comca$t.net> wrote in message
news:IwHa8.20537$td.52...@news2.nash1.tn.home.com...
Most ISP's won't allow sending mail unless you are on their system. I don't
know about Comcast, but with my BellSouth DSL account, I send from my
company accounts at home through the BellSouth server (my company server
won't allow relaying which is just the way I want it). However, since I am
in BellSouth's system, it works.
On the server page, set POP3 to your normal Mindspring incoming server, SMTP
to your outgoing Comcast server, and try it.
I've read some messages here about some ISP not allowing mail if the from
address wasn't one of their accounts, even if you were in their system.
Hope this helps..
E. Smith
their e-mail accounts. I'd like to use their SMTP-server--which I'm paying
for!--but I want to have control over what return address I use depending on
what e-mail I'm sending. Drives me nucking futs.
I'm going to put up my own POP server one of these days.
-e.
Han Broekman
I really do not care very much about your futs, but this is what I did
(as posted several times before, and I was using advice given here):
I made a new personality as WMC via Verizon, and put this in:
Real name: Han Broekman, m...@med.cornell.edu
Return address: <j.bro...@verizon.net>
Then I added this line to the ini file under the WMC via Verizon
personality so people would reply to me "properly"
ExtraHeaders=Reply-To: "Han Broekman" <m...@med.cornell.edu>
Works like a charm, although the From address looks a bit funny.
HTH
--
Best regards
Han Broekman
(Please answer to the newsgroup only, I will not answer email)