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Can't make Eudora 7 work with Gmail

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w6gpm

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Sep 12, 2015, 6:57:34 PM9/12/15
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I'm at my wits end trying o get Eudora to work with Gmail. I've tried all the common fixes and there's a plethora of them on the web. I'm now down to two different errors, "connection lost" on my first attempt and "log in required" on the 2nd. and all subsequent attempts. I've used Eudora for years and love it. I've used it with ATT, Juno and my current ISP, TDS DSL and it has always worked great. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. BTW I'm using Windows 7 and Eudora 7.1.0.9.

Ajo Wissink

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Sep 12, 2015, 9:47:18 PM9/12/15
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:57:33 -0700 (PDT), w6gpm <wsi...@gmail.com>
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>I'm at my wits end trying o get Eudora to work with Gmail. I've tried all the common fixes and there's a plethora of them on the web. I'm now down to two different errors, "connection lost" on my first attempt and "log in required" on the 2nd. and all subsequent attempts. I've used Eudora for years and love it. I've used it with ATT, Juno and my current ISP, TDS DSL and it has always worked great. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. BTW I'm using Windows 7 and Eudora 7.1.0.9.

Eudora works fine with gmail, except for the recent too frequent SSL
certificate changes.

You may be using the wrong settings. Open the Personalities window,
right-click on the gmail Persona and select Properties. Tell us what
your settings are for both sending and receiving and we will be able
to see if your settings are the right ones.

Laura Fredericks

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Sep 13, 2015, 10:13:46 AM9/13/15
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:57:33 -0700 (PDT), w6gpm <wsi...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
Here's my gmail settings:

In Eudora's "Persona" window, right click on personality name and
select "Properties"

Tab: Generic Properties

Real Name: your name
Email address: full gmail address
User Name: gmail username, WITHOUT DOMAIN
SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com
Authentication Allowed: check
Secure Sockets when sending: Required, Alternate Port
Check Mail: checked
ALL OTHERS LEFT BLANK

Tab: Incoming mail

Server: pop.gmail.com
Configuration: POP
Leave mail on server: checked
Authentication style Passwords
Secure Sockets when Receiving: Required, Alternate Port
ALL OTHERS LEFT BLANK

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Laura Fredericks
PGP key ID - DH/DSS 2048/1024: 0xC753039A

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w6gpm

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Sep 13, 2015, 3:22:12 PM9/13/15
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AJo,
Thanks for the reply, here are my settings.......

Real Name: My name
Email address: full gmail address
User Name: x...@gmail.com (same as address)
SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com
Authentication Allowed: check
Use Submission Port (587): check (tried this both ways)
Secure Sockets when sending: Required, Alternate Port
Check Mail: checked
ALL OTHERS LEFT BLANK

Incoming mail:

Server: pop.gmail.com
Configuration: POP
Leave mail on server: unchecked
Authentication style Passwords
Secure Sockets when Receiving: Required, Alternate Port
ALL OTHERS LEFT BLANk

This is exactly per the various instructions I've read. I have two different ISP's. My regular email/Eudora works fine on both servers, Gmail/Eudora doesn't work on either. I'm beginning to think it's a Google problem not Eudora.

w6gpm

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Sep 13, 2015, 3:32:21 PM9/13/15
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Laura,
My settings match yours except as noted. See also my reply to Ajo above.
> Real Name: your name
> Email address: full gmail address
> User Name: gmail username, WITH DOMAIN (instructions say with DOMAIN for POP,
without for IMAP. I've tried it both ways)
> SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com
> Authentication Allowed: check
> Secure Sockets when sending: Required, Alternate Port
Use Submission port (587): check
> Check Mail: checked
>

> ALL OTHERS LEFT BLANK
>
> Tab: Incoming mail
>
> Server: pop.gmail.com
> Configuration: POP
> Leave mail on server: UNchecked

Ajo Wissink

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Sep 13, 2015, 10:19:37 PM9/13/15
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 12:22:11 -0700 (PDT), w6gpm <wsi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Your settings are fine. Usually you don't have to check the submission
port (587), but the instructions say that you can do it. I don't. The
instructions also say to use the entire email address for the user
name, but according to Laura just the part before the "@" also works.
That leaves only the password? You can try Special > Forget passwords
and enter it again when you try to check mail.

Dennis has already explained the cause of your first slow connection
and has given a link to a post by the late John H. Meyers which
appeared in the now defunct Eudora forum. The cure for the slow first
connection is to replace QCSSL.dll in the Program Directory with a
patched version that has been posted numerous times in this newsgroup.

w6gpm

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Sep 14, 2015, 1:13:27 PM9/14/15
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Ajo,
Thanks again. I've never had a problem with slow connections but did the patch anyhow and I can't see any difference. An update to my gmail problem is that I tried Thunderbird with gmail and it doesn't work there either but Thunderbird did work with my other isp email account. Another reason I think it's a Google problem.
>

w6gpm

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Sep 14, 2015, 6:40:58 PM9/14/15
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I found what was wrong and it's been fixed. I take back all the bad things I said about Google. It seems my system didn't meet googles minimum security requirements. However google gives you the option of reducing the security level. Go to https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps and click "yes". I can now send and receive gmail using eudora.

Ajo Wissink

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Sep 15, 2015, 9:38:23 PM9/15/15
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:40:57 -0700 (PDT), w6gpm <wsi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I found what was wrong and it's been fixed. I take back all the bad things I said about Google. It seems my system didn't meet googles minimum security requirements. However google gives you the option of reducing the security level. Go to https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps and click "yes". I can now send and receive gmail using eudora.

Thanks for letting us know and glad that you found the problem. I
don't think that it has anything to do with systems that are less
secure than gmail. I suspect that it is yet another incentive to
encourage people to abandon their computer bases clients and to move
everything to the cloud which is, of course, very secure ;-)

micky

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Sep 17, 2015, 12:01:12 PM9/17/15
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In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:40:57 -0700
(PDT), w6gpm <wsi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I found what was wrong and it's been fixed. I take back all the bad things I said about Google. It seems my system didn't meet googles minimum security requirements. However google gives you the option of reducing the security level. Go to https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps and click "yes". I can now send and receive gmail using eudora.

Hmm. That's already set to Turn On, for me. But I didn't do that. It
seems like, like my parents, Google has low expectations for me.

JK

micky

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Sep 17, 2015, 12:02:16 PM9/17/15
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In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Tue, 15 Sep 2015 22:38:18 -0300, Ajo
You may be right. Intertesting that W6 got no error message, like he
should have.

W6, how did you find out the solution?

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